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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: Paul T on April 02, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
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Howdy all,
I still haven't had a chance to look through the other Crocus topics in here as yet, but I want to start one for the 2009 season for us southerners. Friends here in Canberra have had some Crocus out for a while now, but not me. I Finally have some emerging now......
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Crocus pulchellus popped up out the ground over about 48 hours. Since I took this photo on the 1st April there are now 4 other flowers that should be open tomorrow as well. I just adore this flower, and it appears so quickly just when you think nothing is going to happen.
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I think this one is a version of Crocus serotinus ssp salzmanii isn't it? It is darker than the "normal" commercial form here, and my normal ones are not in any way above ground as yet so I can't compare them directly. Timing should be about right though, and this one is in a better area than most of my Crocus, being a bit cooler and deeper soil (the Crocus garden is in much more sun and still would be a lot warmer, so they'll be coming along soon too I hope).
So that is hopefully the vanguard of the Crocus to come here in my garden.
Enjoy.
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Makes a nice change to see your autumn crocus Paul ! ;)
How's your new bulbbed doing by the way ? Full already ?? ;D
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Crocus pulchellus popped up out the ground over about 48 hours. Since I took this photo on the 1st April there are now 4 other flowers that should be open tomorrow as well. I just adore this flower, and it appears so quickly just when you think nothing is going to happen.
This crocus is absolutely gorgeous, Paul, and I love that feeling of a flower appearing as you describe...this is just how i feel about things appearing after the long winter snow. Do show us more of your new bulb bed - I have a raised one and would like to develop it with more bulbs....
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Paul - I can almost feel the autumn warmth .... still chilly here today.
Your pic of C serotinus might be C longiflorus. The yellow in the throat points that way.
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Chilly Tony? 17 here today :D
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Luc,
The Crocus bed was full last year when I was posting the pics. I couldn't fit anything more into it if I tried I think. ;D I haven't repotted much at all in there as yet (they're all in baskets, so I can "repot" them periodically) as I haven't had time. Will have to wait and see how much I actually do this year. I do need to do some fertilising though, and repotting each basket is a good way to do that and check on everything etc. It will be interesting to see how the corms have improved in the year in the ground instead of in their plastic pots.
Robin,
I posted a topic last year called "Evolution of a Crocus Garden" which showed the development of the bed. That at least shows my experiences with building it last year. The few things I have repotted in there so far definitely seem to have benefited in corms size, but given the bed insulates the corms so much more that isn't surprising. Hopefully I'll get LOTS more flowers this year as a result. :D
Tony,
Interesting. I would very much like to know for sure. I'll have to check my previous pictures of longiflorus and see..... now that you mention it it is possible that I moved my few longiflorus from the garden into there, and they should be up about now from memory. It would also explain why none of the other salzmanii have appeared while this one is in flower. Could indeed be the answer. Thanks.
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"Evolution of a Crocus Garden" see here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1452.0
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Hi Paul,
"spring blossom" just finishes in the NH and "autuum blossom" starts in the SH.
What a delight :D
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Paul ,Tony ,as always , is right :your C. is longiflorus .
in my garden this morning there are hundreds of C, banaticus and nudiflorus in bloom
the last one spreads very fast by stolons and looks delightful in a lawn , if only it would not have such a long ,weak flowering tube , blows over in rain and wind .
Otto.
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A few coming along here now, kotschyanus, k. harriaricus (?) white banaticus, vallicola and this first flower on nudiflorus. Just as I was about to take the picture, Teddy lay down on it but within minutes it had bounced back. You should grow it as I do Otto, among weeds which support it. ;D
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These vallicolas are from seed so are different clones. I've pollinated each one with each other one. There are still a few to come.
And Colchicum 'Waterlily.' I hate it but can't bring myself to throw it out.
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"Evolution of a Crocus Garden" see here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1452.0
Thanks for the link Maggi I spent some time looking for it yesterday and got side tracked into other posts as always!
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A few coming along here now, kotschyanus, k. harriaricus (?)
Hope to see a picture of ssp hakkariensis which I do not grow. ;)
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Lesley,
I love that creamy colour of the vallicola, and the little points of course. How obvious are the points in real life? I've only seen them in pictures so I don't know whether they show up much when viewing via the eyes rather than the camera lens?
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The points are just like in the picture Paul, really pronounced. If the flowers were made of porcelain, the points would pierce one's finger tip if they were touched.
I'll try a pic of the k. ssp hakkariensis. I didn't a couple of days ago because it was looking tired already but there may be a new one. Very hot weather and very dry here at present. Last day today, of daylight saving.
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Thanks for the info Lesley. Very cool. I like that off white colour to it as well.
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in my garden this morning there are hundreds of C, banaticus and nudiflorus in bloom
the last one spreads very fast by stolons and looks delightful in a lawn , if only it would not have such a long ,weak flowering tube , blows over in rain and wind .
Otto.
Here are some pics from Otto that I promised to post for him.
Crocus banaticus,
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and C. nudiflorus,
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cheers
fermi on behalf of Otto
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Otto,
beautiful C. banaticus and C. nudiflorus. 8) 8) 8)
Tks Fermi for posting.
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The white form of Crocus speciosus is in fower in our shaded bed,
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
rare to see- with yellow center- very nice!
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Howdy All,
I have this in flower at the moment, and by definition it can't be Crocus karduchorum as it was purchased. It has a yellow throat so that counts it out. I'm assuming some sort of kotchyanus from looking up info on this misnaming (which is apparently common in commerce), but is anyone able to be any more specific than that? It is beautiful, whatever it is.
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It certainly is a delicate colour and I love the yellow throat - a real beauty :)
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It reminds me quite a bit of the C. pulchellus I posted on the last page, but there are quite a few differences. I like it, but would like a proper name for it for my records as I like to have things with correct names. ;D
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I think it's straight C. kotschyanus isn't it? Some years ago, what was sold as karduchorum, was actually C. kots. leucopharynx. This isn't it though, as it has a white only throat.
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Lesley,
I don't know my kotschyanus well enough to know that. I don't think I have ever had straight kotschyanus, although I did have kotschyanus albus for years which tended to produce millions off little offsets but not many flowers at all. Not sure I even have it any more, although it is probably out there amongst the pots somewhere.
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Paul, as Lesley says, it's straight kotschyanus. The shape of the yellow marks is typical for kotschyanus.
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Thanks to you both. While disappointing to have it incorrectly named, it at least isn't something I already have squillions of. I've actually had this for probably 10 years, but I am far more easily able to note the differences in Crocus etc since I set up my crocus garden which makes things flowering a little more obvious, plus it is out the front of my house which means I see them more often. ;D
Thanks again.
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Paul , Happy Easter to you and Yvonne, a sunny ,warm day here in Melbourne.
your Crocus is , as everyone before me already certified , is C. kotschyanus ssp.kotschyanus , "common" and prolific ,but still very beautyful .
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Howdy All,
A couple more Crocus in flower at the moment....
Crocus mathewii literally popped up in the last 48 hours. The main bulb has 4 flowers or buds on it so far, and it looks like one of the smaller bulbs has a bud on it this year as well. I just LOVE this species!!
The 3 variants of Crocus speciosus have appeared in a group of seedlings that I asked about last year when they appeared when I was expecting Crocus adanensis. There are definitely 3 clearly different speciosus this year, although I am wondering how I would ever end up separating them. I guess all I could do would be to lift the basket now and separate them out?
Enjoy the pics.
Added following day : Made adjustment to the spelling of speciosus (from speciosum) as I boo booed yesterday when I posted this. ::) Pics are still labelled wrong but we can live with that. ;)
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Wonderful wonderful Crocus mathewii pics Paul.
Seed of that from the recent SRGC seedlist ,(sown 24/01/09) has just germinated --unfortunately it has the look of a Dicentra/Corydalis sps ----so somewhere along the line i have mucked up :'( .
However today i was thrilled to come across a first flowering ,(from NARGS sown March 05), of a pale lilac form of Crocus hadriaticus ,so i guess you lose some ,you gain some . ;D Will post pics in the morning .
Cheers dave.
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Lovely pics Paul, just for your records the Crocus species is 'speciosus' not 'speciosum'
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Paul,
fine crocus you have. C. mathewii is beautiful. 8)
Dave,
I'm waiting to see your pale lilac C. hadriaticus ;)
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David,
Just for the record.... I typed one as speciosum and one as speciosus and couldn't decide which was right..... I chose the wrong one. Today in my mind the spelling is correct, yesterday it wasn't. I'll adjust the original post with a note.
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I'm making a list this year of all my crocuses. Already there are 14, starting with kotschyanus, always the first to put up a flower. Maybe some pics later in the day when the sun comes round. I have a heavy head cold, the first for many years so no resistance and really, all I want to do is die.
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Lesley,
14 out already!! :o Looking forward to your pics. I hope you get better cold-wise. Those heavy head colds are the nastiest things, just feel like crap. Best wishes for a quick recovery!
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Wonderful Crocus Paul !!!
I'm not telling you anything new, but C. Mathewii looks gorgeous :o and seems to be enjoying life too in the Crocus bed !
Get well soon Lesley !!
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Glad you're liking them Luc. I took another pic of the mathewii when I got home from work this afternoon..... that little bud in the background it now two fully open flowers, so I have 6 flowers out now (and there was one absolutely ecstatic bee rolling around in the pollen! ;D), well they were earlier when it was sunny anyway. Not going to bother posting the newest pic of the 6 flowers though, unless the bee pics work out well. I still haven't downloaded them off the camera to check. 8)
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Lesley, I find three large single malts, one after the other, has a very healing effect ;D
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I can grow many things, but one thing I can't grow is Crocus!!!
Somewhere, recently I read something about a species of Crocus that grows relatively well in mild climates - was it Crocus serotinus ssp salzmanii ? I have probably asked this question before, but short-term memory loss has robbed me of that particular information.
To date the only Crocus species that I've had a measure of success with is C. goulimyi - no flowers yet though...
Keep the pics coming, they're really beautiful - thanks.
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Lesley, I find three large single malts, one after the other, has a very healing effect ;D
I'll wait until Roger is home so there's someone to pick me off the floor. Feeling awful yesterday, worse today. Starting 2 weeks holiday tomorrow to get gardening done, paper/painting the bathroom, cleaning out the potting shed. Hope I don't have to spend any of it in bed, where I'm going back to, right now.
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Lesley,
I find that so often when a holiday is scheduled I come down with some sort of cold/flu. I think when you HAVE to work you tend to fight it off, but as soon as it gets close to the holiday and you start to relax the bug comes back and gets you. ::)
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Hello Armin
sorry for the delay --had a few computer problems.
First pic of C.hadriaticus in the sun
Followed by the same plant in the shade.
Cheers dave
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Dave,
thanks for your pictures.
Very nice "pale blue" C. hadriaticus. :o 8)
Does it set seed?
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Lesley,
I find that so often when a holiday is scheduled I come down with some sort of cold/flu. I think when you HAVE to work you tend to fight it off, but as soon as it gets close to the holiday and you start to relax the bug comes back and gets you. ::)
The technical term is "Parasympathetic overshoot".
Psychology 101 - or was it Physiology 101? - It was way back in 1983!
cheers
fermi
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If it sets seed Armin i'll contact you.
Cheers dave
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Feeling a lot better today and I may live.
Here are some truly awful pics of crocuses out at present. Everything is against them, the weather, very hot dry, strong winds, a small dog who likes to garden and the fact they haven't been weeded until immediately before the pics. I'll repot for next year or get some at least into the garden.
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C. hadriaticus, lilac form, the first as it started the second, a subsequent, better coloured flower.
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The same phenomenon in C. robertianus.
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C. goulimyi 'Mani White.'
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C. mathewii. Last year the petals were very pointed.
As well, so far CC banaticus, banaticus albus, vallicola, speciosus, pulchellus, p. 'Zephyr, hadriaticus ssp parnassicus, kotschyanus, k. hakkiaricus, nudiflorus, pallasii ssp. pallasii, serotinus salzmannii (asturicus), have all been and gone or are in flower now.
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Lesley,
Thanks for the pics Lesley!!
My Crocus mathewii are much more pointed this year than they were last year (I've checked the pictures from last yer to be sure), so it must vary from year to year, and by a big degree? I have the 3rd bulb sending up the start of buds today, so there'll probably be more flowers from them tomorrow. After the last couple of days I am less astonished by your 14 already in flower.... I am now up to 12 of them and I don't have near the collection that you do. So far here (from memory) I have/have had in bud or flower C. kotschyanus, ochroleucus 'Valerie Finnis', serotinus ssp salzmanii, nudiflorus, banaticus, longiflorus, tornefortii, palassii spathacea, mathewii, niveus (lilac form, although I think we worked out last year that it wasn't this species), pulchellus, serotinus ssp serotinus. There seems to be something new appear every day..... this morning there were buds on the tornefortii where there was nothing yesterday, and this afternoon there were flowers open on the palassii where there was nothing first thing this morning. Very, very cool. Hopefully can actually catch some of them open tomorrow, as I have been getting home from work each day to them closing. ::)
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And I can add two more to that list, bringing it up to 14 different ones out in flower here so far this autumn.... Crocus goulimyi and C. sativus. It is a veritable smorgasbord of Crocus right now. ;D
And so to some pics......
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Crocus goulimyi, discovered flowering in the last couple of days under one of my maples beside the main path.
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This Crocus longiflorus is quite different to the one that I posted recently which others ID'd as that species. Different flower shape etc, but close enough to still be the same I think. Definitely a different clone, and came from a different source, so that is a good thing.
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Crocus pallasii ssp dispathacea is a wonderfully spidery flower, but so intricate when you get down and have a look at it.
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The clump of C. pulchellus in the Crocus Garden. Flowering VERY nicely this year, much better than before the new garden. In amongst that lot there is a blue banded bee investigating the flowers.... I'll post a pic of it in the wildlife topic as well to show what it looks like.
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Crocus sativus, although I think I recall someone saying last year that it looked more like Crocus cartwrightianus?
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And 3 pics of Crocus tournefortii to show how much difference light can make to their appearance, and how cool they look up close.
I would add Crocus ochroleucus 'Vallerie Finnis' except I am yet to get a flower on that to open properly. 3 flowers, and they never seem to open to much more than a tube. Are they supposed to? They aren't jammed together or damaged in any way, they just never seem to open out at all? :-\
Anyway, I hope everyone enjoys the pictures.
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Great stuff Paul. It looks as though your new crocus bed has been very successful 8)
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Really lovely crocus photos and I totally agree that the light makes all the difference....
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Thanks Robin, Ashley.
Ashley,
It does look like the crocus garden has been a big help in improving the size (and therefore flowering) of the crocus. I didn't get them repotted this year and it is a bit too late now. I'll be scraping back the sand mulch and putting some slow release bulb food in there to give them some food. I might even liquid feed them from time to time during the growing season. Hopefully that will mitigate the fact I didn't repot. I had intended to, so that they had fresh food each year. Just didn't happen this year unfortunately. It will be interesting to see how the retic irises go too.
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Very nice indeed Paul.
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Nice too see all that autuum croci :D
Beautiful Paul - the new crocus bed seems to pay off ;D
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Here is (a very poor pic of) C. ochroleucus 'Valerie Finnis. You can see Paul, she does open properly. The one on the right has had a hole pierced by something chewing, when in bud.
Also, (a very poor pic of) C. asumaniae. The weather here today is very cold and windy and not conducive to photography. Asumaniae is almost white and the stigma is richer coloured than the pic shows.
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A slightly better one (last year's) of the och. 'Valerie Finnis'
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Lesley,
Well, it looks like there is something wrong with mine then. Such a shame. Definitely no sign of the flowers opening properly, so obviously something wrong with it. :'( I checked and it opened normally last year by the look of the pics.
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I also have to add Crocus laevigatus to the list of things I have out now, as I found one in flower today, not even realising it was above ground. ::)
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Great show Paul !
Any chance of showing a general view of "your" bed ???
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Luc,
They're dotted here and there, plus in a couple of other places in the garden. Not sure that the view of the bed would really show much, but if I get decent light when I get home tomorrow I'll try. The crocus bed is the one I showed in 'Evolution of a Crocus Garden' last year.... still the same layout etc (particularly because I didn't repot much except a very few). There are only 2 where I have a good clump flowering at the moment (pulchellus has 20 flowers out at the moment, tournefortii has about 6 or so).
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Luc,
I'll post a general view of the crocus bed in it's original topic in a few minutes.
Here's a couple of others that are flowering now....
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Crocus laevigatus out in my garden. Dreadful light, but first of the season. No signs of them in the crocus garden as yet.
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I purchased this a couple of years ago (2006 to be precise) as Crocus niveus - Lilac Form which it most definitely isn't. It is a pure white, but of a lovely form. Whatever it is I rather like it. Does it conform to niveus? Very good shape and substance to the flowers.
Also appearing in my garden today were Crocus pulchellus 'Zephyr' and Crocus caspius (which was sent to me in flower last year through the mail by Otto, and has done well enough to flower this season despite the move!! Thanks Otto. 8)), so that would bring the total to 17 different species or varieties in flower so far this autumn. 8) 8) 8)
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Paul - the C niveus looks true. In the pics it looks like the outer petals have a faint greyish lilac hue but I have seen much better lilac/bicolors ;)
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Tony,
It's only in the picture, or at least it is so barely visible with the naked eye that I wouldn't call it even vaguely lilac unfortunately. Still a lovely flower though.
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Paul -C. niveus -lilac form - sometimes ,if well grown has a few extra tepals . It came to me many years ago from Brian Mathew under this No. :B.M. 8066 A.
I gave corms to Marcus , amongst others , so I think you got your corms from him.
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Otto,
I had BM 8066A a good number of years ago from Marcus, but lost it some time ago one wet summer. I don't even recall now what colour it was. Yes, the one in my picture came from Marcus as well. I liked it enough flower-wise it wasn't a problem that it wasn't lilac, as I didn't already have any other niveus. ;D Easy enough for mixups to happen, and in this case no harm done as it was new to my collection anyway. I am assuming that the lilac form / BM 8066A you mention is actually lilac?
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I had C niveus lilac form from Marcus in 2007 and it was pure white. The ones I had last year were ever-so-slightly lilac. I think what he sells are grown from seed and there is much varaiation it seems. Every one is a lovely thing though.
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Lesley,
Sounds like the same thing. Lovely thing, but definitely not lilac. ;D
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would someone please give me a positive ID for this crocus? Can't quite place it and not like any of the 20 others so far flowered this autumn. Thanks.
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Lesley,
A lilac form of hadriaticus? Looks very like mine of that species except for the colour?
More flowers opening here at the moment despite the awful weather (11'C here today forecast, with showers. Good news is that we've had around an inch of rain here in the last 48 hours. Yeah!!!!! :)). I notice that Crocus goulimyi 'Mani White' has a flower up, and Crocus mathewii has sent more flowers up which is a surprise. As well as the flowers I posted a while back, the third corm has now sent up 4 or 5 flowers, and the other corms have sent up yet more flowers after that initial lot. It definitely shows that the crocus garden is helping mature corms, because that is WAY more flowers than I have ever had from them before, over a much longer period. Yeah!! ;D
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Paul, sounds like you are having an exciting crocus autumn,love the earlier pics you posted earlier, super crisp looking flowers!
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would someone please give me a positive ID for this crocus? Can't quite place it and not like any of the 20 others so far flowered this autumn. Thanks.
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Crocus longiflorus I think. It will have a great scent in the sunshine if that is any help!
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Mmmmmm well, not really because it has no scent that I can distinguish but then nor has my longiflorus patch in a raised bed. It is a little deeper in colour than this one but otherwise similar. On the other hand it is also similar to a new flower on lilac hadricaticus, and that is deliciously scented, so....? Maybe I'll call it hadriflorus or longiaticus. :) The foliage on all three seems identical.
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This little patch of Crocus goulimyi "Albus" is slowly increasing from a single corm a few years ago,
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In the shaded bed a single flower of Crocus caspius is up but not open as we are finally getting some overcast/rainy weather! :D C. pallasii appears to have been a victim of a mollusc! :'(
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
By coincidence my Crocus goulimyi 'Mani White' opened (well mostly anyway) today for the first time, as well as a normal pink/mauve coloured one with the wonderful rounded shape of 'Mani White' that I got from Marcus a few years ago by mistake (he replaced it of course, as he always does on the rare times that there is ever a mixup). I thought it was quite interesting that they both appeared on the same day, and opened at the same time. ;D
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My caspius is open today too, well, yesterday actually. I have both white and soft lavender forms, all from a single original corm. I think it's one of the very best autumn crocuses for its solid texture, lovely shape and very clean colour.
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would someone please give me a positive ID for this crocus? Can't quite place it and not like any of the 20 others so far flowered this autumn. Thanks.
Crocus longiflorus I think. It will have a great scent in the sunshine if that is any help!
Mmmmmm well, not really because it has no scent that I can distinguish but then nor has my longiflorus patch in a raised bed. It is a little deeper in colour than this one but otherwise similar. On the other hand it is also similar to a new flower on lilac hadricaticus, and that is deliciously scented, so....? Maybe I'll call it hadriflorus or longiaticus. :) The foliage on all three seems identical.
Lesley - having previously misidentified longiflorus as hadriaticus, I'm now inclined to agree with Tony - longiflorus. If you have a hand-lens, hadriaticus has hairs on the leaf margin whilst longiflorus is hairless.
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Thanks Gerry, I'll have a look.
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Lesley , my C. longiflorus is enjoying this morning's sunshine , and comparing your
photo with my plants I'm certain your ""hadriflorus"" IS longiflorus .
Also in bloom this morning are patches of C. caspius in white and shades of lilac ,
marked one today that is a good strong lilac -I find caspius a vigorous grower here ,
seedlings appearing in unexpected places ,as I usually forget to collect the seed , one of the species that ripen their seedcapsule below groundlevel . All my stock
originated from P.F. 5035 , which Paul Furse sent to me in 1966 .
hope you have a sunny weekend too ,
Otto.
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We had a beautiful day here Otto, chilly, about 14C high, but loads of sunshine. We have a fire on this evening. Did you get my note about Pere David's frit?
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I have a few autumn-flowering crocus out at the moment.
The Crocus speciosus was collected in the Crimea Caucasus and is the largest-flowered Crocus in my collection. It is 11cm across when fully extended.
Cheers,
Otto
Cr. pulchellus Michael Hoog (2)
Cr. speciosus-c. Crimea- Caucasus
Crocus goulimyi mani white
Crocus robertianus
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Otto,
wunderful crocus you have. The white pulchellus is a stunner. Amazing large size. 8)
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Lovely indeed, but aren't you talking to me Otto? :)
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Here's one of Otto's Crocus caspius that has come to live in Central Victoria :D
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This is Crocus cartwrightianus grown from NARGS Seedex 2004, donated by Jane McGary,
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and Crocus niveus from one of the Tassie Bulb Companies,
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This pic confirmed my suspicion that the red-legged earth mites are back >:( but hardly visible to the naked eye (especially when I don't wear my specs in the garden!)
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi - I wonder whether your Crocus cartwrightianus is this species. The style seems to divide some way up whereas in C. cartwrightianus it is said to divide well down in the throat. Mathew regards this as a diagnostic character. C. pallasii or C. asumaniae perhaps?
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Fermi. Your C cartwrightianus seems to have depauperate anthers. Is there any pollen?? I have a similar plant - how can it reproduce from seed??
Gerry - perhaps the shrunken anthers make the point of division of the style appear higher.
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Tony - you are a good deal more observant than I am - I hadn't even noticed the anthers! But I was also influenced by the shape of the petals/flower which seems untypical (?) for C. cartwrightianus.
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A lot of things are atypical about this form, my first wonderings covered the Crocus oreocreticus option ... I even wondered about virus influences.
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Fermi , here are a few more Crocus from my garden, including C .pallasii ssp . pallasii ,
so you can compare it with your c. cartwrightianus.
Cr. gilanicus
Cr. banaticus
Cr. speciosus
Cr. pallasii ssp. pallasii
Crocus cancellatus ssp.pamphyllicus
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Otto,
beautiful pictures of autuum crocus. I like the clump of C. speciosus and the C. pallasii with the nicely darker center markings.
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Nice batch Otto !!
We don't want to think about autumn here though... ;D
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We don't want to think about autumn here though... ;D
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Certainly not. ;D ;D
Eric
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A lot of things are atypical about this form, my first wonderings covered the Crocus oreocreticus option ... I even wondered about virus influences.
Tony and Gerry,
sorry for the delay in replying; of course the fresh flowers are now gone, but I might dig the corm up later for more diagnostics! As the seed came from Jane McGary I had no worries about their authenticity but could this possibly be a hybrid? I might ask Jane about it.
cheers
fermi
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Howdy All,
I've finally been up to preparing some pics, so here are some Crocus that have been flowering over the last few weeks....
There is a good form of Crocus goulimyi. Much rounder than my normal version that I have in the general garden here.
Three different Crocus laevigatus that are still in flower at the moment here. These are just pics of the individual flowers.... there are small clumps of the "original" one in flower in the crocus garden at the moment.
Crocus mathewii is still in flower even now, and these later flowers are much more rounded than the earlier flowers, even on the same corm.
This was the clump at peak performance of the Crocus niveus that I posted a pic of a while back under the "lilac form" name.
Crocus ochroleucus, which I purchased a couple of years ago from a non-specialist nursery as speciosus albus which it most definitely is not. ::)
The clump of Crocus pulchellus flowering madly about a week or so ago. Same clump as I posted weeks ago, and there are still about 3 flowers out on it. They have done particularly brilliantly after the move to the crocus garden.
In the following message I'll include Crocus speciosus, a rather nicely stripey form that I had flower this year. Only the one flower, so hopefully it is slowly recovering from the pots and will flower better next year.
And the last one I will post is a couple of Crocus serotinus ssp serotinus. For some reason I was not expecting it to be white, but I don't quite know why. :-\ A rather nice white though.
I should also mention that the Crocus tournefortii that I posted pics of a while back still has a flower or two after flowering brilliantly for so long. And as I said in the "Evolution of a Crocus Garden" topic, there's been such a good result from so many of them this year .... it has been well worth the effort in making the garden, that is for sure.
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As mentioned in the previous posting. Sorry the light wasn't great for the serotinus ssp serotinus, but it was the best I could do while the flower was open......
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Forgot this picture showing that others than me are enjoying the Crocus. ;)
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Paul , your Crocus Bed seems to be a great success- you posted some superb photos lately.
I have always grown my Crocus in the open garden -much more successful and a lot less work .Your C. mathewii is a more handsome form ,than mine ,which has rather narrow
perianth segments . also a group of the C. laevigatus col. Mt. Vouvala , Crete, of which you
posted a single flower , and C. hyemalis from Israel is usualy the latest of the autumn ones
to flower . But winter is not far away : C. minimus albus is pushing up a few buds to start the winter/spring Crocus season.
also C.nerimaniae with 9 segments instead of 6 -certainly not an improvement .
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Otto and Fermi,
very nice crocus images and forms you have in your gardens. 8)
One could become a bit envious :-\ :D
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Really lovely crocus photos from Aus - we are reaping the benefit of all your hard labour through the eye of the camera and it's wonderful to see them now that they are over here, thanks for sharing the little beauties :)
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Paul, I'd love to see a picture of the whole Crocus bed. How it's looking now after a year would
be very interesting (for me). Or did I miss a posting of it?
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Otto, will you post a picture of Cr.mimimus albus when it flowers please? I haven't seen it yet, just a single seed from Don last year and a single corm from Marcus, this, not up yet. I don't think anyone in the northern hemisphere belives that this is true, flowering so early as it does, compared with the "normal" minimus. ;D
My autumn bloomers are just abut finished, oreocreticus and longiflorus are still in flower and the last of a few others. Laevigatus is coming along nicely though, and many others already with buds sitting waiting.
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Luit,
I posted a pic a couple of weeks ago in the 'Evolution of a Crocus Garden' topic. Doesn't really look that much different to last year. 8)
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Otto,
Is that first pic your mathewii? It certainly is very different. I posted an earlier pic of mine which had much more pointed petals on those flowers (and the earlier flowers on the corm in that last pic were much more pointed as well), but nowhere near as spidery as yours. Very different, isn't it?
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Thank you Paul. I must have missed it. Well, it's impossible to see everything in this Forum :)
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Yes Luit, that it is!! :o I have sections that I seldom visit, which is why I periodically respond to a whole bunch of topics in an area that might have been around for a few weeks (I just caught up with the Rhododendron area, so a lot of them have been "refreshed" after a while. ;)).
For reference, this is the posting of a recent pic of my Crocus garden (22nd April)......
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1452.msg89076#msg89076
Enjoy.
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Paul I did have look at it, before I answered.
It is still looking good.
You know, I've seen in my life many attempts to make a garden or to make a special bed in a garden and
learned that after some years it often did not look as it promised to be when just finished.
I had such experiences many times in my own place ::) ::) ;D
But I think that plant collectors like you and me are always experimenting, which turns out in a way, that we rarely
have a beautiful garden but a garden with many interesting plants.
And that is just what we want!
I must admit, that in this Forum there are some members who have some very beautiful gardens and are plant collectors too..... 8)
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Luit,
Mine will be a bit different to a normal garden as this one is designed to pretty much be empty above ground in summer, not watered at all to give them their dry rest. Those things that need some moisture are not in the baskets, so they can send their roots down deeper where there will be moisture travelling across the harder surface below. Any rain of course will still enter the garden, but no deliberate watering over most of it. The top level has some things that will start up in mid summer (Lycoris, Calostemmas etc) but they won't be needing much water until I start watering everything else once things start up in April or so. The maple in the corner is the only thing that still gets regular watering in summer, and it will also put it's roots down and out under the sleepers as I set it up so that the geotextile fabric is between it and the garden, leaving it's roots free to venture out of the garden if needed.
The garden itself has worked out pretty much exactly like I envisioned, and is living up to the hope I had for improved flowering. I still have to finish the capping of the sleepers with the mossy rocks like in the front and left of the garden picture, but otherwise there won't be much change at all to it from how it looks now. My main gardens are much more traditional, not being as dedicated as this one. I posted a couple of pics of autumn colour in my garden in the Southern Hemisphere topic, which shows you how much of a mess the rest of the place is. ;D
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I have only just found this thread. It is so nice to be enjoying spring here and having the bonus of your enjoying your autumn at the same time. Thanks and keep posting the pictures 8)
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Your Crocus bed was certainly a very good idea Paul.
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Hopefully the second one will work as well when I build it. It'll be out the back, so will be in different conditions.... but we'll see. ;D
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A lot of things are atypical about this form, my first wonderings covered the Crocus oreocreticus option ... I even wondered about virus influences.
As the seed came from Jane McGary I had no worries about their authenticity but could this possibly be a hybrid? I might ask Jane about it.
Hi Tony, Gerry and Otto,
I've heard back from Jane who agrees that it's a hybrid - most likely with C. pallasii.
So I guess you were all right in a way!
cheers
fermi
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a few more autumn fl. Crocus in my garden today- including the tiny C. cambessedesii
which with C. danfordiae must be the 2 smallest species .
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Otto,
So is the cambessedesii the last pic? What a cute little thing. I am guessing the others as pulchellus albus, hadriaticus (or close relative) and laevigatus.... and unsure of the forth one... niveus perhaps? Am I even close with those (OK, I know the pulchellus albus is right as you'd already posted it elsewhere. ;))? Thanks for the wonderful pics.
Here, there are still a couple of goulimyi, ochroleucus, a few different laevigatus and that is about all left.
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Sorry Paul , forgot to name my Crocus Photos ,
pulchellus albus
001 longiflorus albus
002 laevigatus
003 niveus
004cambessedesii
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No need to apologise... it was interesting to try to guess them. I think I didn't do too badly. Hadriaticus and longiflorus alba are pretty similar aren't they? My hadriaticus (now I'm wondering whether I have the right name.... too tired and not thinking straight) have only recently finished, so I thought it could still be in flower for you.
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Well,
this is a bit confusing - the white crocus I got as C. speciosus albus which I thought might be C. pulchellus albus and which Paul thought might be C. ochroleucus looks very much like Otto's C. pulchellus albus! At least I can't see any difference - maybe because my eyes are 10 years older than yours, Paul, perhaps you can see the difference?
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Another crocus which has come into bloom after missing last year, C. biflorus ssp melantherus,
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And the next to flower looks to be a white one as well!
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Don't be fooled by the foliage, it's growing through a clump of habranthus!
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Well it, or the ochroleucus I have had for years is wrong, because they are the same thing. They don't look the same as the pulchellus alba that I have here. Then again, if they're all wrong I have no idea what they are. What do others reading this think?
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Fermi and Paul, the most important difference between pulchellus Albus and ochroleucus are the leaves.
Pulchellus flowers without leaves, ochroleucus flowers with leaves or at least they appear while flowering.
Paul do you have a photo of your plant?
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Thomas,
Back at the bottom of page 6, second last image..... or here ==> http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3332.msg93244#msg93244
Hopefully that gets you there. Maybe I need to compare it more closely with my ochroleucus that I have had for years.... superficially they looked the same, but I haven't had them side by side or anything. I'll go out and check both of them for leaves. I must dig up my pic of the pulchellus alba that I had flower a couple of weeks ago and see whether they are similar in the picture or not.
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Been out with a torch and checked my two that I thought were ochroleucus..... the old ones that I have had for years have quite advanced leaves (as tall as the flowers nearly) while the new ones like Fermi's have leaves ranging from nearly nothing to perhaps an inch tall. So that would mean that my new ones are pulchellus alba and the old ones ARE ochroleucus. Thanks for clearing that up. My memory of ochroleucus is that they have rather flattened, disk-like corms, but that pulchellus has small rounded corms. Does this hold true for the alba form as well? The other pulchellus I have had are all quite broad petalled, whereas these are much more spidery and ochroleucus-like in shape. Very confusing without the leaf knowledge to clarify between the two!!! They certainly are close in appearance, that is for sure.
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Howdy All,
I am wondering about Crocus laevigatus var fontenayii, and how variable it is. By a cultivar name like that I would have assumed it should be identical, but I have two very similar plants from two different sources and they are different in colouration. One is slightly blower while the other is slightly pinker (and it's flower has solider markings on the outer petals). Both are out at the moment which is why I have been able to compare them. I've always wondered what the difference is between this variety and the straight species as I have not been able to see any difference in the past, but this year I have the straight species as well as these flowering and I can clearly see that the flowers on fontenayii are much larger. (again, the Crocus garden is paying off)
So.... are these both fontenayii, or are these seedlings from fontenayii that are showing differences in flowers? I got them from two different sources years ago, but have never had them growing near each other to be able to compare them like this year.
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So no takers for whether the different colour forms above are both fontenayii?
Here's some more that are flowering for me now....
Crocus longiflorus albus (way after Otto's)
Crocus minimus albus - I think Lesley asked for someone to post this when it opens? I love the pure white tube the whole way up. I haven't yet seen it fully open as I haven't been around at the odd times we've had sun this week. Home tomorrow all day so hopefully I can get a photo of it fully open to add here as well.
Enjoy.
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Very nice Paul ! ;)
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Sorry, Paul: yes, we reckon that the two are both fontaneyi - given the variability they can show.
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Crocus olivieri ssp olivieri ex Marcus Harvey in 2003
I don't grow many Crocus but this one seems happy here in the open ground
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Congratulations Pat. My seed grown from Marcus around that time (have been flowering for the last couple of years) aren't even up yet... still too early for them here as yet. I discovered a munched by snails flower on Crocus imperatii ssp suavoleons today, plus I got a good photo of the Crocus minimus albus fully open today. Lovely morning here, plenty of sun and a few things opened that I hadn't seen open.
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Thanks Maggi. I didn't realise that "var fontenayii" was actually a strain rather than a clone (or is it actually a spp?). I'm glad now that I didn't combine them when I was putting them all into the crocus garden last year.... I decided to wait and watch and check everything was what it was supposed to be. Now I'll mark them as slightly different colours. I assume that not only is fontenayii larger than the straight laevigatus, but it is also later? Mine were starting as the straight species was starting to go over, and they've been flowering more and more since then. Great extension of the species. 8)
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Otto, will you post a picture of Cr.mimimus albus when it flowers please? I haven't seen it yet, just a single seed from Don last year and a single corm from Marcus, this, not up yet. I don't think anyone in the northern hemisphere belives that this is true, flowering so early as it does, compared with the "normal" minimus. ;D
I just checked, and it was Lesley who was asking about the pics of Crocus minimus albus, so as well as the pics I posted yesterday (which show the outside of the flower as well), these are pics of the flower face on and fully open, as well as a closeup of the interior as best I could get it. My camera refused to focus on the style unfortunately, so I had to live with this which hopefully shows enough arrangement to confirm the ID (or not).
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These are great thanks Paul. I've heard so much about it that it's good to see it at last. My two corms from Marcus this year are well into leaf but won't flower. Maybe next. Interesting it's so early when ordinary minimus is quite late compared with others.
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So does it look right for minimus?
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Well it's certainly the right shape. Besides, it came originally from Brian Mathew (to Otto, I think) so who's going to argue? :)
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That's a good point! ;D
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Hi Paul,
pretty nice white C. longiflorus and minimus.
Beautiful rounded pedal shapes of C. minimus. 8)
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Thanks Armin.
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Great photo and light on your Crocus minimus albus, Paul ;)
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Crocus imperatii ssp suaveolens is currently coming more and more into flower for me at the moment. This has just captured the beauty of this variety beautifully I think. Wish I could show you the full sized version ::)
Also flowering now (but not yet photographed) are Crocus sieberi 'Violet Queen' and the first flower on Crocus rujanensis. Still a few flowers appearing on some of the Crocus laevigatus as well.
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Very nice specimen Paul !
Isn't this very early ??? Equivalent to our early January ??
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An absolutely wonderful shot, Paul, of a truly beautiful crocus ;)
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Yes Luc, July equates to January in those SH countries which have a proper winter (exclude Fiji, Tonga, Cook Islands etc). It is our coldest month and we in Dunedin had -7C this morning. The ground looks like a snowfall. But I have a few early crocuses out or starting, chrysanthus from Mt Parnassos, the cvijicii x veluchensis seedlings and biflorus ssp melantherus, as well as laevigatus still which starts in June for me. Just too darned cold to go out and take picture. :D
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Come on Lesley - put on your gloves and your woollies ... we want to see pix !! ;D ;D
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Crocus korolokowii opened this weekend.
I have more pics of others, but haven't prepared them as yet. ::)
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A couple more in flower at the moment....
Crocus corsicus and a pic of the detail in the centre. I just love it. Also, Crocus ancyrensis.
Enjoy.
Don't forget to click on the pic for a larger version!
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The first Crocus tommasinianus for this year opened on the 21st July. 8)
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Really great to enjoy your crocus in the winter sun, Paul, the shot of open Crocus corsicus is just gorgeous and the close up captured 100%
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Thanks Robin. Glad you're enjoying them.
Actually, that's just reminded me that I have more pics on my camera that I haven't downloaded to the computer yet. Must do so. Crocus corsicus is a fav or mine (too many of them are favs of mine) and another is C. minimus, and that is what I have a pic of on my camera (although only an outside pic, as I still haven't got one of it open).
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Superb photos, Paul....... a summer treat for the NH croconuts!!
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I've come home to a dozen more crocuses out in flower, most notablly, C baytopiorum which didn't flower at all last year. It just needs a little more strength in the sun though, to open properly. We are enjoying a few very nice days. Not warm (to 10 or 12 C) but bright sunshine. I'll take the camera out as soon as I can.
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At the moment the most prolific and easiest of all Crocus is in bloom -in their thousands-
so I seleted just a few different shades of mauve of my tommies to post.
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Otto,
Only just starting here as yet. A few in the garden, plus a first flower ever on a box of seedlings from seed from Thomas a few years ago.... looking forward to what turns up in there. ;D) And they're not going to be in their thousands for decades in this garden I would imagine. ;D Wish we were closer so I could come and have a look.
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At the moment the most prolific and easiest of all Crocus is in bloom -in their thousands-
so I selected just a few different shades of mauve of my tommies to post.
Isn't it a joy that such beautiful plants can be easily grown and attain large colonies in time, without any fancy techniques or elaborate contraptions to protect them ? I have never understood why some folk complain about their willingness to seed!
The simple beauty of these delightful crocus show all I need to know about the allure of these wee flowers. Simply lovely.
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Really gorgeous groups of tommies, Otto, looking so natural and with a lovely colour pallet
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Really gorgeous groups of tommies, Otto, looking so natural and with a lovely colour pallet
Couldn't agree more !!
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Your tommies are beautiful Otto. They are a little later here, no sign yet.
Tomorrow is the 1st of August. Shall we start a new thread for early spring?
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Otto you have a wonderland of beauty.
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I really will get out with the camera later today or early tomorrow. Apart from the crocuses, there are Narc 'Atlas Gold' one of which is a full 5cms across and a nice pot of Galanthus elwesii 'Emerald' (as Denis Hughes calls it, also known as 'Emerald Hughes' or 'Hughes' Emerald.' When I bought them last year just a couple of days before taking off for Australia, they were lifted from the open ground and I wasn't particularly impressed but they have increased well in the year and the blooms are big and fat with very strong markings. Definitely impressed now.
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one more shade of a reddish mauve in flower today -if one grows C. tommasinianus long
enough [like I have ] differentcoloured seedlings appear spontaniously ,including white .
thank you all for your kind comments,
Otto.
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Nice solid pink to that one, Otto. Very nice!! 8)
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A very unusual and lovely colour, Otto :)
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Hi, well I know nothing about Crocus except that I love them.
Does anyone know what this, probably very common variety is?
This will show my newness, I was not aware of the tri coloured crocus, they are beautiful looking flowers.
At present if it was not for crocus my front garden would look very barren, the beautiful yellow flowers are now scattered through and the mauve ones should not be far away-actually a few Narcissus are about to flower but that is another thread.
Thanks for any help.
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Kees,
I'd hazard by the look of it it is a colour form of Crocus tommasinianus (like the ones Otto has been posting). Very variable species, with lots of different colour forms and markings etc. Nice colour on yours. 8)
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Kees , your Crocus is tommasinianus, the easiest of them all . now that you have been bitten by the Crocus bug ,surely you will want to grow many others ,including the
autumn flowering species .
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Yes Otto, I will try to increase my numbers and species.
I might look for the tri colour and pink ones for next season, still will be mainly concentrating on my miniature daff crosses.
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Howdy All,
Some of the Crocus I have in flower, or have had in flower in the last couple of weeks.... Just for the sake of having them all together. If there are incorrect IDs in here, please let me know as I would like to have things correctly named....
Crocus biflorus ssp alexandrii
Crocus biflorus ssp weldenii
Crocus 'Cinderella'
Crocus corsicus
Two differently sourced Crocus cvijicii. The New one had a much shortened style, but I don't know whether this is a single flower anomoly or standard. I've still hand pollinated onto the shortened style with the hope of setting seed. It unfortunately never set any pollen, so I wasn't able to pollinate the other way. ::)
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.
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Crocus minimus is a success story for the new Crocus Garden. I nearly lost it a few years ago, and now it is back. I was pleased when I had a flower open on it this year, but this week I have had 17 flowers open on it at one point. It is back with vigour!!
Crocus pestalozzae
I have an anomaly with Crocus saturnus, with one being a much larger and darker flower than the others. Better form to it, larger and stronger colour..... I've some pics of it, and the others in the clump, and a pic of the clump later on to show that it still IS much larger than the others. Is it likely to be a ring-in, or is it just a particularly nice clone? I love it, but will isolate it out if it is incorrectly named. Thanks for any help you can give by way of IDing. 8)
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.
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Some rather nice Crocus sieberi ssp sieberi. I love both forms. The one from Marcus is brand new this year.
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Wonderful Crocus Paul ! :D
Glad that your Crocus garden is living up to expectations !!
I particularly love the C. sieberi ss sieberi clones - they are real stunners - too bad they are so hard to come by.
C. biflorus ssp alexandrii also looks gorgeous... just as the saturnus form... such a warm orange !
Thanks for showing !!
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I agree with Luc, just a wonderful vision of what is growing so well in your crocus garden and C. sieberi is my favourite - you must be so pleased with the success of so many looking so good :)
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Thanks to you both. Yes, the sieberi are gorgeous!!
Here's some more flowering in the last couple of days...
A pic of my clump of Crocus cvijicii in the Crocus Garden yesterday. I just love it.
Crocus chrysanthus 'Herald' is the most striking colour combination. Beautiful form to it too.
I am a little concerned about this Crocus etruscus.... is it supposed to be stripey like this? Brand new this year, so it must have come with it if it has virus. What do people in the know think of the markings?
Crocus etruscus 'Rosalind'
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.
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Crocus reticulata x angustifolius - gorgeous colour on quite a petite flower. Really beautiful.
Crocus vernus - I had this under another name but I think we worked out last year that this was a more species style of C. vernus? I don't recall the dark markings near the tip last year, reminiscent slightly of the heuffelianus. A large flower, but relatively spidery. Not bad at all. 8)
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Hi Paul!
Great to see your new crocus bed doing sooo well.
Lucky you with the recovering of Crocus minimus,
I've lost my complete stock last winter.
Crocus etruscus often has stripes, but I don't dare to
tell you yours has a virus. Will leave this to the virus-experts
(Tony G and Zhirair)
Your chrysanthus Saturnus looks like a mix of seelings,
the true Saturnus looks like this:
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Thomas,
Thanks. Yours look much creamier than my saturnus, and not as dark on the outside? I rather like mine, but Yes it does look like they're a mix. I wonder if I should try to isolate the larger one now or not. I guess safer to just leave them all there and enjoy them next year. ;D
As for minimus..... if you can't source it locally (i.e in your own hemisphere and therefore less trouble), let me know and I'll see if I can send you some at the end of the year. I am so pleased to have it back and happy again. I can't believe how many flowers it has had this year after really thinking I was going to lose it a few years ago. Great stuff!!
Glad you got to see my pics, given you don't always get up here much at this time of year. More Crocus appearing every day (I've had a couple more tommasinianus pop up since yesterday, and sieberi sublimus tricolor should open fully tomorrow with more buds just visible at the surface as well). Great stuff!! 8) And all the wonderful reticulata irises are going great guns.... should be posting a few more pics of them down in the iris section tomorrow too.
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Paul, thanks for your offer, I'm sure I will be able to replace my minimus stock soon.
Please think about the promised tommie-photos!!!!!
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Thanks for the reminder Thomas, I forgot about them when preparing things yesterday. The pics don't show them particularly well, but here's a few pics of the seedlings from your seed. One white one, plus assorted combinations. So hard to get proper comparison shots. I've included a few shots from outside to show the different outer petals, plus one of a darker flower, and one of the majority of them in flower in the polystyrene box. I don't think there'll be any more this year, so I'll be feeding them soon and hopefully lots more flowers next year.
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.
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And forgot....
The first flower on Crocus sieberi sublimus tricolor is out now, with it looks like 4 more flowering points emerging. Will be lovely if so, as I have wanted for ages to get a good clump together.
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...and finally: Australia - 12 points from the German jury, Paul :o
a very good result, particularly the white one in the upper left corner.
And many more will follow next year.
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Thomas,
So you like them then? ;D I must admit the white one was a nice surprise. It had some fine fleckings of colour in it, just like the other white tommies that I have seen. They never seem to be "pure" white, always having some faint splash or stripe of colour on them somewhere. Maybe it is a product of conditions here. Still a lovely surprise, as I had no idea how much variance to expect in the seedlings. Hopefully lots more variations next year as well. 8) 8)
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Paul.
super crocus show! :o 8) 8) 8) Your crocus bed is already a full success!
Like your pictures especial of C. biflorus ssp alexandrii.
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The first flower on Crocus sieberi sublimus tricolor is out now
Wow, absolutely sublime...hoping to see some more when they emerge ;)
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Brilliant Crocus and many I lust after
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Wow Paul! Need I say more!! ;D I'll have to redouble my efforts at growing crocus - even just one in flower would be fantastic... :(
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It should be possible with some species Rogan. I have a friend who lives in the sub tropical north of Auckland (bananas, cherimoyas etc) who succeeds with a number of species, especially autumn flowering forms.
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Robin,
As requested, here's a pic of the Crocus sieberi sublimus tricolor with most of the clump out now (better than I have ever had before).
Also attached are a couple of pics of Crocus tommasinianus 'Barr's Purple'.... it isn't very purple. Does this look about correct, or have I had a mixup somewhere down the track? It is very similar to some of the seedlings I have had come from Thomas' seed, and I know that some by that name were parents of that seed. Maybe the "purple" is one of those liberties taken by people in the naming process?
Thomas, if you're reading this... I posted a pic of your Anemone blanda seedlings that are in flower here now.... so far all identical blue (17 flowers) but putting on such a lovely show. 8)
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Seen the photo, Paul. Hope some hybrids will soon appear in your box!!!
In every case a good result, congratulations.
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Thomas,
Even if every one of them ends up blue, I'll still be pleased. I can just imagine the box in full flower in subsequent years. Stunning!! Such a fantastic result for something that is so often difficult to get good germination from. It shows just how important fresh seed is.... because I think that pretty much every single one you sent germinated. Thank you kindly Sir!! 8)
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The Crocus season is coming to the end in the Southern Hemisphere - the last ones flowering in my garden today:
Cr. heuffelianus "National Park'
" 'Lilac Wonder'
' ' Carpathian Wonder'
vernus ' Maximillian'
kosaninii
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Lovely, Otto. 8) 'National Park' looks like a dark beauty, and of course the wonderful 'Carpathian Wonder'. I don't think though that there is a heuffelianus that I haven't liked as yet. ;D The 'Maximillian' is interesting, with it's almost heuffelianus markings. Great stuff!! 8)
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Wonderful series Otto ! :o
I really love the C. Carpathian Wonder !! I just invested in a bulb from Janis and I'm really looking forward to see it in the flesh next Spring. :D
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I'm hoping Marcus may have one tucked away somewhere with my name on it. :D
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You certainly grow some real treasures Otto.
The Carpathian Wonder is certainly unique in its markings.
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You certainly grow some real treasures Otto.
The Carpathian Wonder is certainly unique in its markings.
I agree - how does the Y shaped marking come about?
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You certainly grow some real treasures Otto.
The Carpathian Wonder is certainly unique in its markings.
I agree - how does the Y shaped marking come about?
I found single such colored plant in Easthern Carpathians. Original plant was eaten by rodents but remained some selfsown seedlings, from those was selected the best, it increased quite well and I named it 'Carpathian Wonder'. Other quite similar in marking but with light lilac base color I named 'Lilac Wonder'. But Y shaped mark is typical for Crocus heuffelianus and scepusiensis as well as for some forms of C. vernus (very rarely).
Janis
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Thanks for your reply Janis, a wonderful story of survival how you found and named 'Carpathian Wonder'. The meadows of Crocus vernus here are quite an amazing sight as far as the eye can see, I shall look out for the rare Y next year!
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Thanks for your reply Janis, a wonderful story of survival how you found and named 'Carpathian Wonder'. The meadows of Crocus vernus here are quite an amazing sight as far as the eye can see, I shall look out for the rare Y next year!
Robin, this reply from Janis is all rubbish. I personally have seen Otto out in his garden, lying on his tummy and weilding a fine paintbrush, making the little lilac marks on each crocus flower. He does them just before the visitors arrive and he has to re-do them after rain. I have no doubt that Janis does exactly the same with his. ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D Y not?
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There is a place in the North Island of New Zealand, with the Maori name of Waikikamukau (not sure of the spelling, however). Obviously the answer is "Y not?"
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I love the NZ signs - my Father was involved in developing Geothermal Power for electricity at Wairakei, on a trip he confidently pointed out that they were crossing the Waithere river - a tractor coming the the other direction made it clear that the sign said 'Wait Here' ;D
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NZ has SO SO many one lane bridges where one side or the other gets right of way. Wonder if they lead the way in this.
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I'm sure we do Pat but with one arrow red (small) and the other arrow black (large) I'm never sure which side gives way to which. Then we also have one lane bridges that have a bulge in the middle so that at a pinch, two cars can pass if one has come on to the bridge not realizing another was already coming the other way.
The island of Samoa is about to change its driving from right hand side of the road (as in America) to left hand side (as in NZ/Aust/UK). It happens tomorrow I think and there are predictions of all kinds of accidents as most of the population are adamantly against the change. Apparently it is because it is about 6 times cheaper to import a car from NZ to Samoa than it is to import from USA to Samoa.
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Thanks for your reply Janis, a wonderful story of survival how you found and named 'Carpathian Wonder'. The meadows of Crocus vernus here are quite an amazing sight as far as the eye can see, I shall look out for the rare Y next year!
Robin, this reply from Janis is all rubbish. I personally have seen Otto out in his garden, lying on his tummy and weilding a fine paintbrush, making the little lilac marks on each crocus flower. He does them just before the visitors arrive and he has to re-do them after rain. I have no doubt that Janis does exactly the same with his. ;D ;D ;D
But dear Lesley , how well I remember how puffed out you were after you picked me up from my prostrate position - unable to do so without help ( due to 2 hip replacements)
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My own memory fails me here Otto. I don't remember the occasion at all. But I hope I handled you with loving care and had you upright again and in your right mind. :)
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Thanks for your reply Janis, a wonderful story of survival how you found and named 'Carpathian Wonder'. The meadows of Crocus vernus here are quite an amazing sight as far as the eye can see, I shall look out for the rare Y next year!
Robin, this reply from Janis is all rubbish. I personally have seen Otto out in his garden, lying on his tummy and weilding a fine paintbrush, making the little lilac marks on each crocus flower. He does them just before the visitors arrive and he has to re-do them after rain. I have no doubt that Janis does exactly the same with his. ;D ;D ;D
Lesley,
In that case he must send out little elves with some of his plants..... the 'Carpathian Wonder' he sent me had those little Y's on them, and I am FAR too lazy to get out there with a paintbrush and put them on there myself. Unless of course Otto has been in communication with our dog and trained her to do it, although how she managed to jump all the way up onto that table with her hip problems I will never know! ::) And without breaking anything else growing on the table at the same time. ;D Hmmmm.... and now that I think about it she IS called 'Elf', so perhaps my mentioning of Otto sending elves with his plants might have subconsciously been right on target? :o
And also, having seen Otto's garden I am not sure there is space anywhere there for him to lie on his tummy, well not without ending up rolling down the slope and damaging everything he rolls over. ::)