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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Thomas Huber on March 03, 2009, 11:09:58 AM
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Here some photos from the last weekend in Nettetal when it was the 3rd 3. Schneeglöckchentage .
Guess who is who ;D
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??? My ideas:
Pic 00, from left to right: Armin Ruby ??? - Luit van Delft - Hubi and Hubi Junior (maybe) - ???
Pic 02 : Is it on the right Tony Goode ??? ??? ???
Pic 03: Gerd Knoche ???
Anyway, very sympathetic fellows. ;)
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Some pics from Oirlich - sorry, no forumists!
1.,2. and 5. Cyclamen coum and hederifolium from Jan Bravenboer
- see last pic from Thomas Huber (with his wife-left and 2 forumists - right)
3. Leucojum vernum
4. Chrysosplenium macrophyllum sold at Oirlich
Gerd
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??? My ideas:
Pic 00, from left to right: Armin Ruby ??? - Luit van Delft - Hubi and Hubi Junior (maybe) - ???
Pic 02 : Is it on the right Tony Goode ??? ??? ???
Pic 03: Gerd Knoche ???
Anyway, very sympathetic fellows. ;)
Wish I could have been there. (Norwich-Frankfurt for under £100 by air - pick me up at the airport next time?)
00 Armin:could be - ? - Dirk:looks so young - ? - ? Definitely no TG :'(
03 Yes Gerd Knoche
Why no Hubi? I wanna see your winter hat ;D
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Now Gerd, you are teasing us with one of these photos ;D
I know who some of the nice folks in the photos are...... can I say???
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Now Gerd, you are teasing us with one of these photos ;D
I know who some of the nice folks in the photos are...... can I say???
Maggi, of course you can! ;D ;D ;D
(derived from: Yes, we can)
Gerd
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Picture 00: Armin (you can always tell from his smile); Luit; ?; Arne; ?.
Picture 03: has to be Gerd.
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Here another few pictures then:
I was told that the man on the first pic far right is Forumist Johan Mens.
Picture 7 far right is Peter Groot, who is also to see in the Journal SRGC Patagonia.
young specialists ....1
young specialists ....2
Oirlich 2009 3
Oirlich 2009 4
Oirlich 2009 5
Oirlich 2009 6
Oirlich 2009 7
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and some more:
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Ah-hah! Now we see Herr Hubi!
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And because we did not see too many of the real snowdrops
on Saturday we made yesterday a short walk in a wood about 10 km.
from our living place.
I put them just here now if it's o.k.
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??? My ideas:
- Hubi and Hubi Junior (maybe)
::) It was because of the cap ;D
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Now Gerd, you are teasing us with one of these photos ;D
I know who some of the nice folks in the photos are...... can I say???
Maggi, you are THE MODERATOR! Or should I say THE BOSS? ;) :-X
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Thomas only wears a hat when it is warm?
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Thomas only wears a hat when it is warm?
David, I NEVER wear a hat - only a cap ;D
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Hubi, a cap IS a hat! ;D
now, some names .....
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left to right...
Luit and Vroni van Delft, Gerd Knoche, Thomas Huber (Hubi, bare-headed), Erich Pasche,( who has lots of good hats), Dirk (Udo looking much younger than his avatar!) Armin Ruby, with that smile of his !
I must take Luit's word that the man on the extreme right is Johan Mens, we have written but not met.... Ian Y says he looks familiar, so suggests he met this gentleman in Holland at the Dutch Conference 8)
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Completely correct, Maggi!
Unfortunately Arne had to go home before we made this photo, so
he isn't on Luit's photo.
Maggi, in Germany there is a difference between a hat (for "old" people
and a (baseball)cap for young people which I wear in my Avatar.
But I have noticed, that there is NO difference in English. 8)
Now, Dirk, you have to take up Maggi's hint and change your Avatar ;D
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Armin, Luit, Dirk, Arne M., and another man who smiles a lot, Erich.
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Dirk , this time with Peter Groot no, no, this is Johan Mens, Hubi tells me!..... these both have good smiles.... I'm thinking of having a smile contest!!
Johan, we don't see enough of you here! in the Forum !
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Hubi and Eriche Pasche look as though they could be related :-X
What an erudite crowd - makes me wish even more that I was there ... and that I could speak german :-[
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Hubi, you will see that Dirk is wearing a woollen hat which is sometimes called a "beanie" in English.
Some hats do have other names!
Great idea about the avatar for Dirk, Hubi..... :D
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Dirk , this time with Peter Groot..... these both have good smiles.... I'm thinking of having a smile contest!!
Sorry , this is the man I heard, being Johan Mens.
Where are the Belgian Forumists when we use them?? ;D ;D
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Dirk , this time with Peter Groot..... these both have good smiles.... I'm thinking of having a smile contest!!
Sorry Thomas, this is the man I heard, being Johan Mens.
Where are the Belgian Forumists when we use them?? ;D ;D
Yes, THAT was Johan, it is my mistake!! Now the man on the right HERE is Peter..... 8)
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More great smiles here..... who are the lady and the man selling?
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Maggie
The man and lady selling are Jan Bravenboer and his wife, Mieke.
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Maggie
The man and lady selling are Jan Bravenboer and his wife, Mieke.
Ah, thank you, Gert Jan.
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Dirk would pass for Joe Sharman's, sorry Joe, brother.
I'm totally lost about this event. Who organised it and what country was it in? Maybe I'll attend next year. What's the nearest airport?
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Mark, please sit up and pay attention....
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It was all explained quite clearly here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2604.0
...as far back as October! You even asked questions and we got a translation for you about the event.
Schneeglöckchentage 2009 in Nettetal
Am 28. Februar und 1. März von 10.00 bis 17.00 Uhr
Oirlicher-Blumengarten und Cafe Künstler laden ein
41334 Nettetal-Hinsbeck Oirlich 9
www.oirlicher-blumengarten.de
Günter Waldorf is the organiser ..... he has a collection of around 280 varieties.... it's all been said before! :o
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Maggi,
I have to agree with Thomas - there most certainly is a difference between a hat and a cap. A hat has a definite shape while the cap is soft - can be folded and put in a pocket, for example. I wear a hat but never a cap. "Cap" is pronounced "Keeapp" in Ireland, certainly in rural Ireland.
Re photographs, I recognised only Thomas and Arne in the first photograph, both clear from their forum photographs.
Paddy
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But Paddy, for example Dirk's head gear is soft and can be folded into a pocket..... but it is not a cap.... it can be a beanie, but it is a hat......all caps are hats but not all hats are caps..... ::)
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Thomas didn't like the hat I sent him a couple of Christmases ago. It was a red beanie and I thought it would be good for German winters but......
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Beanie's loved by the younger people here in north-west Germany when working outside in the garden, because of the strong wind we have.
A cap, as Thomas wear is for the middleaged people ;D around 40 -50
And a hat are for the "old" men ;D ;D over 60 and in darker colours.
I'm in the 40 er and so I wear a Cap.
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Maggi,
Of hats and caps: Well, there are hats and there are caps and then there other things.
Onion, I wear a hat, have done for years and have not reached 60 yet.
Paddy
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Richard Dawkins says if he sees someone in a baseball cap said person's IQ goes down by 20. If it is on backwards it drops a further 20. ::) Clearly this only applies to the tracky wearing, Irn Bru drinking chavs in the UK, not the smart, well dressed man-about-the-mountains type. ;D
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Paddy this is the special humour of the "natives" in this area ;D ;D ;D
Lives in the north of Germany since 20 years, come from the south I'm a foreigner here. So the "natives" makes jokes with you. (The beanies are a short version, like the sailors wear sometimes)
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Uli,
Such humour is everday in Ireland. Here it is called "slagging" and means to tease, insult in a friendly way. It is a sign of friendship to be able to have such humour for someone.
Paddy
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The beanies are a short version, like the sailors wear sometimes)
Like Hagen wears??? ! 8)
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Maggie yes.
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Looks like you had a grand time out there folks !
To answer Luit's question about belgian forumists... well, a couple of them were over in Harlow... ;D Too bad this coincides with Nettetal :'(
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Looks like you had a grand time out there folks !
To answer Luit's question about belgian forumists... well, a couple of them were over in Harlow... ;D Too bad this coincides with Nettetal :'(
Luc, I meant we need you to confirm the person on the picture.
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Thomas didn't like the hat I sent him a couple of Christmases ago. It was a red beanie and I thought it would be good for German winters but......
Stop talking, Lesley - I never said that!!! I used your red merino wool cap allthrough the winter when it was cold here!!
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Richard Dawkins says if he sees someone in a baseball cap said person's IQ goes down by 20. If it is on backwards it drops a further 20. ::) Clearly this only applies to the tracky wearing,....
Reading this I doubt if this guy possesses ANY IQ ??? ::) This is the 21st century.
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;D ;D ;D
I have a long grey Sunday coat and need a hat. A nice felt Homberg might do the trick?
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;D ;D ;D
I have a long grey Sunday coat and need a hat. A nice felt Homberg might do the trick?
I could put on mine and we could make a clever-grandpa-sunday-walk in Dunblane ;D ;D
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Thomas didn't like the hat I sent him a couple of Christmases ago. It was a red beanie and I thought it would be good for German winters but......
Stop talking, Lesley - I never said that!!! I used your red merino wool cap allthrough the winter when it was cold here!!
Ah but did you only wear it going to and from work, when it was dark and no-one could see you?? ::)
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;D ;D ;D
I have a long grey Sunday coat and need a hat. A nice felt Homberg might do the trick?
I could put on mine and we could make a clever-grandpa-sunday-walk in Dunblane ;D ;D
I'll get my walking stick and cigar ready Thomas. ;D ;D ;D
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All this talk of hats - something must have gone to your heads?!! :)
I love the picture of the little snowdroppy corner of the garden with the log steps.
I have just printed it out along with a picture of John Gennard's beautiful bulb meadow, to give me inspiration.
My problem is that I spend too much time looking and thinking and never get round to actually doing anything
so my garden is 90% jungle.
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All this talk of hats - something must have gone to your heads?!! :)
My problem is that I spend too much time looking and thinking and never get round to actually doing anything
so my garden is 90% jungle.
But, Vivien, surely you must have heard that a greater part of the jungles of the world are at threat? You are doing your bit for conservation.... look at it positively! 8)
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so my garden is 90% jungle.
So is mine! ;)
(http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=859.0;attach=31089;image)
John ;D
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Lovely photo, John.... I nearly forgot that you do more for jungles than Sting! 8)
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so my garden is 90% jungle.
So is mine! ;)
(http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=859.0;attach=31089;image)
John ;D
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Whoops... meant to say that yours was worth conserving, John!
Maggi, my jungle of brambles >:( and bluebells >:( >:( is threatened on a regular basis in very strong language :)
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my jungle of brambles
valuable wildlife cover and food source, Vivien, you're still on a winner!
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Lovely garden John, must be very peaceful if you ever get a chance to just sit and enjoy it!
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Lovely garden John, must be very peaceful if you ever get a chance to just sit and enjoy it!
the concrete bench on the left of the picture is overlooking a small koi pond - that was our place to sit with a glass of something when there was a spare 10 mins.
John
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Thanks for all the pics, - what a fine meeting in Oirlich - hope to be able to come there next year. 8)
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Lovely garden John, must be very peaceful if you ever get a chance to just sit and enjoy it!
the concrete bench on the left of the picture is overlooking a small koi pond - that was our place to sit with a glass of something when there was a spare 10 mins.
John
Wonderful garden John, do you have to wrap it up in winter or are those large leaved beauties hardy in your area :o
I've had weather damage this year to borderline stuff, so I'm pleased that snowdrops are hardy :D
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Nice to see Bagheera at home in your jungle John. ;D Does he still argue with Baloo over how to look after Kent 'Mowgli' Gardener? ::) Look out for Shere Khan though. :o Get the impression from the pic that Kent is subtropical? :-\
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Hi,
I'm a bit late...
It was a wonderful meeting and I enjoyed that day!
Many "group" pictures have been already posted. I'll add one. ;)
And I'll post pictures of a few Galanthus beauties in the show garden.
I'm not a "Galanthophile" and will remain more a "croconut" :D - forgive me -
And correct me if I may use wrongly cultivar names.
Enjoy the impressions...
Dirk, Arne, Thomas
G. plicatus -Rubys Surpriese-
-Rubys Surpriese-
Leucojum vernum
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And if anyone asks why my "avatar" is so different to the "latest pictures". The "avatar" was taken in summer. Now it is winter...
A full beard warms as good as a cap! ;D ::)
George Elwes-
-George Elwes- close
-Grumpy- IMG_
-Grumpy- close
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my "yellows"
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and final...
-Hans Guck in die Luft-
-Hans Guck in die Luft- close
G. plicatus - Augustus-
Note: "Hans guck in die Luft" is not the correct name - cultivar name unknown -, March 5th.2009 ARUBY
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It`s nice Ruby, that you show your pics on our only green/white galanthussite! ;D Thank you to all croconuts for such good pics. Next year I`m on your side again!!!
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Armin, heute habe ich 10 unterschiedliche Typen von zweifarbigen Tommies eingetauscht. Schreib ich auf deutsch, da ich hier nur als galanthophil gelte. ;)
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Hi Hagen!
You are welcome ;) This year the wheather was much better compared to last year ;)
Please post pictures of your tommies !
Zeig Sie uns doch mal !
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This is the only one I made a pic from
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Armin,
Good posting, nice photographs.
Hagen, snowdrops are far better than crocus! But, that one is very nice.
Paddy
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Stop talking, Lesley - I never said that!!! I used your red merino wool cap allthrough the winter when it was cold here!!
Probably used it to carry snails for disposal. ???
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Anthony, we really MUST get together sometime. I was about to remark - before reading yours - that that was the cat who walked by himself and all places were alike to him. I was brought up on Kipling and can still recite The Sing Song of Old Man Kangarooo and The Elephant's Child, almost word for word.
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Would Hagan or someone please go to the Colchicum thread and help me out with an ID? Thanks.
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Great Pictures Armin - I was starting to worry that no one actually looked at the snowdrops while they were there! ;)
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and final...
-Hans Guck in die Luft-
I did not know the story of Hans Guck in die Luft but it seems to derive from a song/poem by Heinrich Hoffman which you can read here in German with an English and (I think) Dutch translation http://ingeb.org/Lieder/wennderz.html . For some reason Hans gets translated as Johnny in the English version, "Johnny Head-In Air" being his full title.
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Great Pictures Armin - I was starting to worry that no one actually looked at the snowdrops while they were there! ;)
For me it was much more interesting to meet friends than looking at white flowers with green tips 8)
The click-rate of our photos manifests that SRGC forumists are more interesting than Galanthus :o
164 clicks in 2 days in very impressive!!
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The click-rate of our photos manifests that SRGC forumists are more interesting than Galanthus :o
I hope that someone is planning to twin scale you all and distribute you as soon as possible. :) :) :)
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:) :) :)
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The click-rate of our photos manifests that SRGC forumists are more interesting than Galanthus :o
I hope that someone is planning to twin scale you all and distribute you as soon as possible. :) :) :)
There is no doubt that human interest is a great feature of the forum. As to twin-scaling as a method of increase for Forumists, since there have bben 79 registrations of new Forumists since the 10th of January this year, I think that there is sufficient natural increase for us all to be spared the rigours of commercial interference ::) ;D ;D What a relief! ;)
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Hi Armin ,
After a close inspection of your pics from G. "Hans guck in die Luft" I have to say that these plants are not correct - I have never send any plants to Oirlich .....
If you look to my pics from last year you will see the rigth plant - the marks are really different :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1343.msg31755#msg31755
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Hans,
as I previous mentioned I'm not a Galanthus expert. I just referred to the name on the label.
It is a mistake. I'll modify...
Your pictures look really like "Hans guck in die Luft"! ;)
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Armin ,
thats not a fault of you -I have in meantime written to Günter to correct this label .
We have so may wrong named plants ....it is not nessecary to have more ;)
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Hi Armin ,
After a close inspection of your pics from G. "Hans guck in die Luft" I have to say that these plants are not correct - I have never send any plants to Oirlich .....
If you look to my pics from last year you will see the rigth plant - the marks are really different :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1343.msg31755#msg31755
Hans J's link to his original post about "Hans Guck in die Luft" reminded me that he had already explained the origin of the name. But I cannot help thinking that somebody could do a better English translation {Edit: of the poem, I mean}. For example, in English we would say "head-in-the clouds" rather than "head-in-the-air", but I guess it is much harder to rhyme "clouds" than "air". Is there a poet in the house?
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Hans J's link to his original post about "Hans Guck in die Luft" reminded me that he had already explained the origin of the name. But I cannot help thinking that somebody could do a better English translation. For example, in English we would say "head-in-the clouds" rather than "head-in-the-air", but I guess it is much harder to rhyme "clouds" than "air". Is there a poet in the house?
Not a translation, just a bit of doggerel
Johnny does not become a Galanthophile
with apologies to Heinrich Hoffmann
Once, with head as high as he could,
Johnny walked in snowdrop wood.
Johnny watched the pigeons trying
Which was cleverest at flying.
He didn’t see the galanthophiles,
Nor those white things, miles and miles.
So he strode on, silly fellow,
Missing green and white and yellow.
Then he noticed those folk praying -
Or so he thought. He heard them saying:
Come look here, just by that rock,
There’s a double, there’s a poc.
He thought it must be a new religion
But head up, continued to look at the pigeon.
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Bravo Diane :D ;D
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Alan :
It is easier as you think - "guck " means simply "look"
So "Hans guck in die Luft" means only "Johnny looks in the air"
....but why you like translate this plantname ?
we have also to accept all the english cultivar names :D
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Alan :
It is easier as you think - "guck " means simply "look"
So "Hans guck in die Luft" means only "Johnny looks in the air"
....but why you like translate this plantname ?
we have also to accept all the english cultivar names :D
Hans, no no , I am very happy with the plant name. It's the English translation of the poem that I do not think is very good; and by that I mean it's a fine poem that I don't think has been translated as well as it might be. A superb effort from Diane, however.
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Somewhere there's a poem, mentioned I think in Patricia Moyes' thriller, "Johnny Underground." If I remember rightly - which I may not - Johnny Head in Air referred to the pilots of the second World War while Johnny Underground was those who had already been shot down, and killed. Perhaps it's the poen by Heinrich Hoffmann, referred to above? Must look in the book but like many others, its stored in a box in Roger's shed.
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Very good Diane - made me chuckle. ;D
Cheers
John
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Here is the answer of the confusion about the false HANS GUCK IN DIE LUFT. It`s another sibling from G. plicatus from the same galanthusgarden. But it`s called PROPELLERKÖPFCHEN (with accordance of the breeder).
You can see also here for about 3 years. http://www.engelmannii.de/bilder/galanthus/bestand/pages/PROPELLERK%D6PFCHEN.htm
The snowdropseason has arrived East Germany
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Hans, no no , I am very happy with the plant name. It's the English translation of the poem that I do not think is very good; and by that I mean it's a fine poem that I don't think has been translated as well as it might be. A superb effort from Diane, however.
Alan : it was a missunderstandig ...I was thinking you would give this plants a english name ...sorry
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Hagen :
thank you for clarification :)
Propellerköpfchen is also a very nice plant - the sientificname would be :
Trochoptheranthum-Chephalus ;D
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Somewhere there's a poem, mentioned I think in Patricia Moyes' thriller, "Johnny Underground." If I remember rightly - which I may not - Johnny Head in Air referred to the pilots of the second World War while Johnny Underground was those who had already been shot down, and killed. Perhaps it's the poem by Heinrich Hoffmann, referred to above? Must look in the book but like many others, its stored in a box in Roger's shed.
Lesley is thinking of a poem by John Pudney used in the film "The way to the stars" and featured at the bottom of this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_to_the_Stars . But John Pudney must surely have been familiar with the Hoffman poem in its English translation?
Sorry, this is rather off-topic but the freedom to wander a little off topic is one of the joys of this forum.
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Hans,
Regarding your comments on translating snowdrop names: I think we would all prefer to stay with the German name for the snowdrop Hagen posted, "Propellerkopfchen" rather than your "Trochoptheranthum-Chephalus". That would simply be too much for my tongue to manage. German is much simpler.
Paddy
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Paddy ,
it was just joking !
I think the truth is for changing back from Cyclamen trochoptheranthum to Cyc. alpinum was for the same reason ( not serious ) 8)
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Paddy, here is a source for PROPELLERHEADS: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artist/8w8c/ ;D
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Hagen,
I think we have many propellerheads on this forum!
Paddy
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Can we now safely assume that if we read something we do not understand like 'propellernose' or 'guck irgendwo' this is the name of a new Galanthus cultivar ??? ;D
Göte
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Hi all fotografing forumists from Oirlich ,
I miss any pics of the man who made this event - where is "Aicha" ? ( also a member from here )
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Sorry Hans, can't help. I met him but didn't make a pic.
He was shown in tv a few days before the galanthus event -
maybe only here in NRW (WDR 3).
Gerd
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Thanks Gerd ...maybe next year
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Somewhere there's a poem, mentioned I think in Patricia Moyes' thriller, "Johnny Underground." If I remember rightly - which I may not - Johnny Head in Air referred to the pilots of the second World War while Johnny Underground was those who had already been shot down, and killed. Perhaps it's the poem by Heinrich Hoffmann, referred to above? Must look in the book but like many others, its stored in a box in Roger's shed.
Lesley is thinking of a poem by John Pudney used in the film "The way to the stars" and featured at the bottom of this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_to_the_Stars . But John Pudney must surely have been familiar with the Hoffman poem in its English translation?
Sorry, this is rather off-topic but the freedom to wander a little off topic is one of the joys of this forum.
Thanks so very much Alan, for the link and information. You are quite right. Now I read the little poem again it is familiar.
Looking at the cast of the film, which I never saw, what an amazing collection of actors. They don't make 'em like that nowadays. Michael Redgrave, John Mills, Trevor Howard, Stanley Holloway and others, all great actors and stalwarts of British stage and screen.
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Thanks Gerd ...maybe next year
If you don't mind that being my first post, I may help out with a photo taken at the Galanthus Gala in Queenswood this year. Günter was helping at Rudi Bauers stand selling some snowdrops. He's on the left side.
Greetings from Iris
(who prefers Galanthus to Iris :-\)
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Hello, Iris, how nice to have you join us here. 8)
Such a shame that you prefer Galanthus to Iris.... after all, how many beautiful women are called Galanthus?? ;) ;D
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... after all, how many beautiful women are called Galanthus?? ;) ;D
Miss Behaving? ;D
Thanks for your welcome Maggi :).
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Miss Behaving?
;D ;D ;D
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.... after all, how many beautiful women are called Galanthus?? ;) ;D
Maggi :
you are wrong -in Turkey is
Kardelen
( this means snowdrop or Galanthus ) a common name for women ;D
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Hans, you always have something new to teach me! I might have guessed you would know the name of beautiful Turkish girls!! ;D ;) ;) have made a new lesson .... there is one every day 8)
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Maggi ;)
I know also a other name of turkish girls :
Lale
this is the name for Tulipa ;D
I suppose Layla + Leilah is maybe the same name ...( Eric Clapton ) ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WUdlaLWSVM