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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Lesley Cox on February 28, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
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We southerners seem to have been quite quiet lately so a new start for the 1st of March, officially the first day of autumn, though the weather has felt a little autumnal for the last week or so.
I have my first colchicum coming through today following recent good rain and yesterday, when looking for something else in my tunnel house, I found this gorgeous thing, Asteranthera ovata. Dave Toole gave me some cuttings back in October 2007 and they took quite a long time to root and begin to grow, more than a year before I was quite sure. This is the first flower and I am thrilled by it.
I have never seen it in flower before but fell heavily in love with it in a coloured slide at a talk some 40 something years ago and it has never left my "wish list" since that time.
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looks like a charmer indeed..is it a little mat type thing? small plants are my favourites...lol
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Lesley,
What a surprise! Some years ago I saw this species in southern Chile in a region which is called the Valdivian rainforest and never expected to see a cultivated plant . Very showy!
Gerd
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re: Asteranthera ovata
About 8 years ago we got one at Glendoick Gardens which was supposed to be a hardier form. It bloomed here in a pot once and as I recall it had a bit more orange in the flower but I may be mistaken. We gave it to a friend in North Vancouver who planted it against a mossy stump. It has done very well there and is now climbing all over the stump.
It may be worth a try.
johnw
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Thank you John,
The hardiness is interesting but Vancouver is most probably somewhat
warmer in winter than my region.
But once again quite interesting for me that Asteranthera is known - will
look for some seeds in the future.
Gerd
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We've had lovely pix of Asteranthera ovata before from t00lie... see reply 7 here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=14.msg187;topicseen#msg187
I think this plant is pretty tough, there are some folks growing it in Scotland.....or were doing so some years ago, not so sure abut now.
Recently Celia Coller was growing and showing it in Engalnd.... http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/141/34439.html
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What a lovely page in that link Maggi. I'd forgotten about it. Those fabulous Ourisia hybrids. I've had a few flowers over the summer on O. microphylla but not enough at once to photograph. The plant is looking well though.
The Asterantha comes from southern South America as mentioned above and is a plant of heavy shade. It should do well in conditions where Philesia magellanica is happy. I don't know about hardiness. It's fellow gesneriad Mitraria coccinea is happy enough outside in my climate and flowers very well. I know the Asteranthera grows in the central North Island, very cold in winter, but it grows under huge forrest trees in dense shade so maybe not much frost there.
Dave has his in a hanging basket with the long stems dangling down but mine is tending to loop along, not unlike Linnaea borealis v. americana. The red colour above is a little misleading. It should be more crimson, less pinkish.
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Lesley,
although it's "officially" autumn here it hardly feels like it!
However, we have had our first colchicum
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which is possibly "Princess Astrid" or "Atropurpurea"
Flowering for the first time is Globularia bisnagarica which we got from the annual "Bunfight" Plant Exchange in 2007,
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Nearby a rather healthy clump of Armeria is coming back into bloom!
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In the Shadehouse a sole surviving Ipomopsis rubra (NARGS Seedex 2008) is still in bloom,
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cheers
fermi
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Maggi and Lesley,
Thank you for the notes about Asteranthera !
Gerd
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The Ipomopsis is lovely Fermi. I've not had one reach flowering size before collapsing.
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The Ipomopsis is lovely Fermi. I've not had one reach flowering size before collapsing.
Thanks, Lesley, this one has been in the Shadehouse since October and started to flower in the middle of January.
A few flowers in the rock garden:
Yellow Rush Lily, Tricoryne elatior, a local endemic,
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And the Belladonna lilies (Amaryllis belladonna) have started! Albeit half the height they should be!
A local selection is quite dark pink/carmine
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We have two supposedly different forms of white Belladonna, the first came as "Hathor"
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and the other as "Multiflora alba"
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But I can't see a difference really; maybe it's more obvious when they aren't so starved!
Another plant that "holds its own" during this time of year is a trailing native plant called Amulla or "Trailing Emu Bush", Eremophila debilis, with its enticing cream and pink berries.
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It comes from NSW/Queensland.
cheers
fermi
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Lesley, it rained all night here , the first time since mid december, and the garden already
looks greener -or is it my imagination ?it will also help to put out the remaining bush-
firers , so sad and horrific, with 210 lifes lost and over 2000 houses destroyed .The healing period will be long and painful .At one stage one of the fires was only 5 kilometers
from here.
My plants of Asteranthera ovata made large carpets over the last 35 years, enjoying cool,
moist ,almost pure leafmould, but during the last few years of drought and heat -
CLIMATE CHANGE -it has shrunk to a small patch . I must rescue it ,it is such an intense
red .,a charmer .
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Great to hear you finally got some rain Otto ! That will have been more than welcome I guess ! :D
Nice autumnal feeling about your plants Fermi !
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So pleased you have some rain Fermi. It's amazing how quickly things green up. I had sprayed a patch of lawn outside the front door, thinking to plant thymes there and was all ready to go when we had the rain last week. Suddenly - literally overnight - I have a lawn again, the billions of grass seeds all germinated.
(Funny, or not so funny, how the current financial woes of the world have encouraged us to think in billions or even trillions, rather than the mere millions which seemed such huge amounts a year ago. Now, millions in debt are hardly worth a mention! :o)
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So pleased you have some rain Fermi. It's amazing how quickly things green up.
You have to remember, Lesley, that Otto and I live in two very different climatic zones. Whereas 34.2 mm has fallen in the Dandenongs where Otto lives, only 4.6 mm has fallen in Redesdale! The burned out areas through which I drive each day to work still appear quite lifeless but should recover once we get some decent rain. Unfortunately the media including the garden shows are very Melbourne-centric and once it starts to rain down there they think everything's hunky dory and the drought's over - it's a very different story north of the divide. But autumn rolls on and the bulbs respond to the change in seasons: Cyclamen graecum is just putting up a couple of buds and will soon be in flower!
cheers
fermi
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My first Arum pictum flowers, short lived, reeking of pig manure, loved every minute of them!!!
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Yes, stinky but FAB, eh, Doug?!! ;D
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Fab indeed! That they were short-lived suggests they may have been pollinated.
Fermi I know how you feel. Our nightly TV weather forecast goes on through the summer grinning inanely about the hot/dry, while gardeners and farmers are desperate for rain. Eventually they recognize that prolonged drought is not to everyone's benefit so when 2mm of rain falls in Hawkes Bay they say how pleased they are for the suffering farmers, then back to hot/dry again next day and the silly grins.
My cyc. graecum is in flower now too, 3 and some more buds. First time since 1996!
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Doug,
that's a nice looking arum!
Lesley,
that's good news - must've been the hot dry summer!
here's a pic of the Cyclamen graecum in our rock garden where 10 days ago there was nothing!
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cheers
fermi
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Hi everyone, Otto has asked me to post some pics for him;
first some colchicums:
Colchicum "Violet Queen"
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Colchicum davisii from Greece
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And one he got as Colchicum liparochiadys
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he got it as seed from the Moscow Botanic Gardens in 1968 labelled Colchicum liparochiadys Woronow ex Czerniak but can't verify the name; can any aficionados please help?
cheers
fermi on behalf of Otto.
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More from Otto:
A couple of Aussie native plants, first the stunning "Christmas Bells", Blandfordia grandiflora
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And the Tasmanian Climbing Heath, Prionotes cerinthoides,
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And though these aren't "flowering now" here are a few pics to prove that Otto did get to Afghanistan in 1971!
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And here he is wondering which way to go!
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And on top of the Khyber Pass, a younger Otto and friend!
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and the view from the top,
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cheers
fermi, on behalf of Otto!
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That's never Otto 8)
I really want to grow the Prionotes. Saw it in 07 in Tasmania, crawling up trees in the Mt Field National Park. A beautiful thing. The Blandfordia's OK too :)
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It's amazing how quickly the autumn bulbs appear once the weather cools down; none of these were above ground a week ago!
One of the few Australian native bulbs, Calostemma purpurea, the Garland Lily
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Crossyne flava (also posted to the SA Bulbs thread) which eventually becomes a large "star-burst" seed head - as there are another two flowering I might get some seed this year ;D
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Sprekelia formosissima, The Jacobean Lily,
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The tiny autumn snowflake, Acis autumnalis (syn Leucojum autumnale)
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
can you tell more about the Calostemma purpurea? Cultivation, soil, hardiness etc. Or have you report this in a thread of the last years?
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Fermi,
Your flora (native and imported) continues to amaze me. I can read about it and see pictures, but your pictures are a step beyond that. Calostemma purpurea is amazing. Aso as I already noted elsewhere the imported Crossyne flava. I feel as though my pictures, once the snow melts will not be as interesting.
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Very impressive Fermi, please keep posting more :)
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Hi Uli,
I've posted pics of the Calostemma purpureum (sorry about mis-spelling it before!) in previous years, at least last year I think! It's an amaryllid and the bulbs can go down pretty deep. The most common as far as I know is this pinky purple form but Pat Toolan (arillady) has mentioned that forms near her place can be white as well. There is a separate species called C. luteum which some people believe is just a colour variant; I've grown it but it hasn't flowered for a couple of years - I think it needs to be moved to somewhere sunnier.
I treat mine with almost total neglect (maybe why C. luteum hasn't reflowered!) and they can take at least -7C which is what we get down to in a "normal" winter.They seem to prefer a dry summer. I think you could treat them similar to Nerines or Lycoris where you live. In our conditions they usually take around 2 years to flower from seed, but can take a lot longer if conditions don't suit them.
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cheers
fermi
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Hi Robert and Mike,
thanks for your comments; the feeling we get at the end of summer is somewhat akin to what some people in the NH feel at the end of winter - relief and expectation as to what has survived!
The recent rain has brought out the "rain-lilies"; here are some Habranthus,
first, Habranthus tubispathus
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and the "pink form"
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And the large pink, H. robustus selection, a seedling form "Russell Manning"
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And here are a few more pics of Crossyne flava, these were grown from seed and show a bit of variation in colour,
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cheers
fermi
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Lovely plants, as ever....... those Crossyne are odd, aren't they? Nice odd , that is!
Don't forget, Readers.... click the pix to enlarge them.... 8)
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The Habranthus tubispathus look great against that steely blue foliage.
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Hi Fermi:
That form of tubispathus is not the pink one, rather the "apricot". Perhaps more accurately a pale salmon base.
regards
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Femi,
thank you for the information.
I must build a very, very, very large greenhouse for all the bulbs I see here.
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Hi Fermi:
That form of tubispathus is not the pink one, rather the "apricot". Perhaps more accurately a pale salmon base.
regards
Hi Alberto,
do you have a pic of the pink form of this rain-lily?
I'll have more re-labelling to do!
cheers
fermi
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I was a bit surprised to see these in flower as I drove in the drive yesterday evening - they weren't there in the morning! The lovely red Rhodophiala bifida.
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This is the first time that they've flowered at Redesdale - I don't even remember when I got them, but it was from one of the local Victorian traders/Bulb Companies. I even got some more from Paul T last year because I thought these would never flower!
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cheers
fermi
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Very explosive flower power Fermi !
Striking reds !
By the way - have you heard from Paul T lately ??? ??? ???
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I haven't heard from Paul lately.... though he was online earlier this morning, so I hope that means he is fine. :)
Love that red, fermi...... 8)
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Hi Fermi:
I will send them as a private message as they are friends' images.
In Australia they have most of the tubispathus forms, some of which are trully stunning. There exist white forms (sadly we lost them) and even a blue form.
Regards
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Hi Fermi:
I will send them as a private message as they are friends' images.
In Australia they have most of the tubispathus forms, some of which are trully stunning. There exist white forms (sadly we lost them) and even a blue form.
Regards
Thanks, Alberto,
I'll PM you my e-mail address in case it's not on my profile.
Luc,
yes, it's very explosive when you don't see it one day and it's there the next!
cheers
fermi
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I was thinking the same Anne. Euphorbia rigida is it Fermi?
You do do a very good clump of the Habranthus tubispathus. Mine tend to flower one here and another there, seldom more than two or three at a time.
As well as Paul, I've been wondering where Mark in Co. Antrim is or how he is. He seems to have vanished of the Forum recently.
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Mark is fine, we chatted for over half an hour yesterday ..... he has a new job/boss.
I think Paul is posting on another Forum so he is fine, just following another type of plant right now , I think!
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I was thinking the same Anne. Euphorbia rigida is it Fermi?
You do do a very good clump of the Habranthus tubispathus. Mine tend to flower one here and another there, seldom more than two or three at a time.
Hi Lesley, and Anne,
yes, Euphorbia rigida has seeded itself into this area as well! And it does enhance the colour of the Habranthus which has built itself up from an original planting of about 3 bulbs. At the feet of the flowers is a mat of Artemesia which I bought as A. schmidtiana "Nana" but which I now suspect to be A. pedemontana or something similar.
Mark is fine, we chatted for over half an hour yesterday ..... he has a new job/boss.
I think Paul is posting on another Forum so he is fine, just following another type of plant right now , I think!
Well, it's good to know they're okay! Thanks as ever, Maggi.
Coming home yesterday, yet another "surprise" - Colchicum cilicium (or is it cilicicum???)
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And more "rain-lilies" - Zephyranthes "Grandjax"
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And this one appeared to have a very dark centre!
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Also in flower, what I've grown as Habranthus martinezii but I think Alberto has suggested is (yet) another form of H. tubispathus
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And more Acis autumnalis
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And in the vegie patch a clump of Allium tuberosum is in bloom
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cheers
fermi
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So many things making their appearance when you are at work, Fermi! Masses of colour to enjoy ... and for us too!
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Yes, I do still exist. I dropped in very briefly the other day to respond to a PM, but otherwise I have barely been up here in a couple of months (as you probably all noted due to the wonderful peace and quiet you've had. ;D). I've been chatting to Otto on the phone this evening and he told me I should get up here and visit everyone as I was being discussed! ;) Thanks Otto!!
Here, it is hot and dry. have basically had no useful rain in around 2 months. Despite being late March we're forecast 29 or 30'C every day this week. Hot and dry. Not fun!! Lots of Cyclamen in flower at the moment (C. rohlfsianum, graecum, intaminatum. hederifolium, cilicicum and purpurascens), a couple of different Rhodophiala, a couple of flowers on a pot of Sternbergia, a couple of Colchicum, some Aussie Native Orchids starting up as well, plus Dahlias, Salvias, Weldenia (just keeps on sending up a flower here and there), Brugmansia, Haemanthus coccineus, Utricularia, Beaugainvillea (still in flower since September/October), Lycoris radiata, a Clematis species that isn't what I bought it as (but I've never worked out what it is) is just finishing, and another (C. virginiana) just starting, an occasional Habranthus or Zephyranthes despite no rain..... and that is all I can think of right now off the top of my head at 10pm at night, after a very long and tiring day. ::) I'm sure there is more. I can probably even provide a pic of two if anyone wants them. ;) ;D :o
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Hi, Paul! We did miss you ::)
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I can probably even provide a pic of two if anyone wants them. ;) ;D :o
If you have the time, Paul! Glad to hear from you again.
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Come on Paul, get that camera going, we've all missed you. ;D
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Well, as you asked so nicely... ;) ;D
All these are in flower now, or have been in flower this month (March).........
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This is my one and only Brugmansia (species name forgotten), that I grow in a pot so I can put it closer to the house in winter. Beautiful flowers.
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Calydorea amabilis
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Tigridia vanhouttei
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I only have a couple of types of them out as yet, but here is part of my main clump in the garden of Colchicum 'The Giant'.
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Some of the Cyclamen in my shade house, including a white graecum in the front, plus cilicicum, hederifolium, intaminatum and some silver leaves on a coum. My purpurascens are elsewhere so aren't in the shot.
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This is one of my pink Cyclamen graecum.
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Cyclamen rohlfsianum doing well as usual.
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Haemanthus coccineus growing out in the garden.
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A brand new purchase (yesterday in fact) of Hedychium coccineum 'Tara'. H. greenei grows OK for me here in a protected area, and this species is supposed to be hardier so it should do fine for me as well. The flowers are a glorious colour, and wonderfully perfumed.
Some more pics still to post, either here or elsewhere in the forums.
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And some more......
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Lycoris radiata, much redder than in this pic, but I can never get the colour right on a digital camera.
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Nerine masoniorum, one of the rather miniature species. Delightful!!
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Rhodophiala - pink.
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Rhodophiala bifida, but a form that only produces one or two flowers per stem, never more than that.
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Rhodophiala pratense, hopefully correctly named?
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Zephyranthes flavissima
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And lastly a couple of shots of a Worsleya that was in flower at my friend Lyn's place recently. I'd never seen one of the "blue hippeastrums" in flower before, so it was a real treat. Beautiful spotting on the flower too. Such a glorious colour.
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All very smart, Paul and I particularly like the rich colour of the Rhodphiala pratense ..... but I know it is the Worsleya which will set the Amaryllid lovers hearts a -flutter ! Isn't it glorious?
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Good to have you back Paul.
Great pics; I particularly like your rhodophialas & cyclamen. They obviously enjoy Canberra! For me CC. graecum & rohlfsianum flower fairly regularly but never profusely.
And the Worsleya - just wonderful :o
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Ashley,
Cyclamen graecum does well for me. I get prolific flowers on most of mine. I have some in the shade house and some in pots out in the full sun (and I mean all summer as well). They do brilliantly!! Cyclamen rohlfsianum I have under the eaves next to the house all year in the same spot. Lots of light but very little sun. I always get a few flowers, more this year because I actually repotted them last year and so they had some extra food. ;D
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I love the worsleya and your Rhodophialas Paul :D
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A lovely collection Paul. Welcome back to the best Forum in the world. :D
I haven't taken many pictures lately but had to have a closer look at this wonderful Eucalyptus ficifolia which grows on the side of the road on my way to work. The colour is superb but there are two others in nearby private gardens which I'll have to go begging for. They are bright lipstick crimson and pure scarlet.
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I've been watching for seed over the last two or three years but it's really difficult to get. The hard nuts seems to take 3 years to ripen fully and it doesn't always flower. But there are a few large nuts at present so maybe by winter, or next winter...
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Good to see you back, Paul.
More things have sprung into bloom here, though I'm yet to get Cyclamen rolfsianum to flower!
The Lycoris radiata has also flowered here,
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As has the peach coloured L. elsae
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And more rainlilies, the hybrid Zephyranthes "Ajax"
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And its offspring with Z. grandiflora, "Grandjax" is still going strong!
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And in a shadier part of the garden, the first "true autumn crocus", the one we decided last year is Crocus kotschyanus!
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We've had a warm to hot week so we're hoping for cooler weather - and more rain! - in the coming weeks.
cheers
fermi
cheers
fermi
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Great pictures Southerners !!!
A very warm welcome back Paul !
Good to see the Southern Hemisphere restored to it's full capacity again !! ;)
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Thanks Luc. You make it sound like I just cured global warming or something!!?? ;D ;) If I could just get our rainfall back to it's full capacity I would be pretty pleased, let alone the whole Southern Hemisphere. ::)
Great pics from both Fermi and Lesley. Very nice!! No Crocus here yet though. :'( My friend Lyn has some already in flower at her place (C. banaticus).
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Thanks Luc. You make it sound like I just cured global warming or something!!?? ;D ;) If I could just get our rainfall back to it's full capacity I would be pretty pleased, let alone the whole Southern Hemisphere. ::)
Actually I had hoped you were working on that Paul ! ;D
You have disappointed me now... >:(
;D ;D
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Today i received a nice calendar from Australia with wildflower pictures.
There were some species that did impressed me, specially Lechenaultia biloba, Brunonia australis, Actinotus helianthi and Swainsona formosa.
Are these wildflowers also grown as ornamentals there on Australia?
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Michael,
The short answer is yes. I've grown the Brunonia myself - it's a bit 'miffy' but a lovely little thing when happy. There's also an earlier discussion somewhere on the forum about the various forms of Swainsonia in cultivation. As for the other two look here http://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/interns-2002/actinotus-helianthi.html and here http://www.anbg.gov.au/gnp/gnp11/lechenaultia-biloba.html.
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Yeah ANBG!! ;D ;)
Sorry, couldn't resist that, given I work there and all.
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Yeah, wasn't lost on me either.
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Thank you very much! That website surely has a lot of good information, just the way i like it!!!
By the way, together with the calendar i also received this nice card. I know the upper stems are the Kangaroo paw, but what about the nodding flowers with seedpods forming?
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Mike,
Lechenaultia biloba, Actinotus helianthi and on even rarer occasions Swainsona formosa can be found at times in nurseries, but they are by no means common, at least not in my area anyway. I grow Lechenaultia biloba myself, and have tried Actinotis a couple of times unsuccessfully. I have seen the Actinotis in cut flower arrangements from time to time as well. Seeds of the Swainsonia are available at the ANBG.
The nodding tubular flower you mention in the painting is Blandfordia, common name of 'Christmas Bells' here as that is it's flowering time. The Waratah (Telopea sp.) pics are beautiful.
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Howdy All,
Some pics taken yesterday and today in my garden.....
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A selection of double forms of Aster nova-belgii (I think that is the right spelling), or what we call "Easter Daisies" because of their flowering around Easter.
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The Beaugainvillea is still in flower (it hasn't been out of flower since I posted the first pics back in around September/October), although looking a bit ratty after the heat a few weeks ago and some solid winds recently.
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Some autumn colour.... this a Cornus florida that is turning briliant shades of orange and red at the moment.
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One of the smaller species types.... Gladiolus montanus. Delightful little thing only 8 or so inches tall for me. Lovely shade of pink, with great form and size to the flowers.
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Nerine rosea is in full flower right now, with a number of different species showing buds.
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This has started flowering for me, but I can't remember the name. It is something like Ipheion subhirtellum I think, but it was given to me without a nametag. I received a spring and autumn flowering yellow Ipheion from Fermi last year, but neither of these are flowering as yet (but both have put up leaves now... should they be?). The one in the pic put up flowers before any signs of leaves, now the leaves are appearing as well. Very small flowers, less than 2cm across. Gloriously bright yellow, with a reddish rib down the back of the outer petals. Any ideas as to name?
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Oxalis perdicaria has started.
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Pelargonium reniiforme does well for me, and has been flowering for some time. Small, soft, kidney-shaped leaves are topped by long stems holding these bright magenta flowers. An absolute gem!!
I'll post some other pics within the Cyclamen area shortly, plus I have posted a pic in the orchid section of the Aussie native Eriochilus cuculata. Enjoy!
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Paul,
Plenty of colour in the garden, looking very well. Paddy
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Very nice, Paul. The new camera is performing admirably!
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Anne and Paddy,
Glad you're enjoying them. Yes, the new camera is great, although the shrinking process loses some of the beautiful clarity that I get from it, so I guess you can't really see much difference between these shots and the ones from my previous camera.
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Lovely pics Paul, new camera obviously working a treat. What make and type are you using?
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Paul,
nice pics; I especially like the Gladdie - do you have a pic of the entire plant?
The Ipheion may be I. hirtellum which is one of the ones I gave you as well; I think it's now classified as a nothoscordum.
The Sternbergias have started here; firstly S. sicula
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And the larger S. lutea,
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And since I had to move one of the S.sicula I took a pic for comparison,
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cheers
fermi
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Also flowering are the yellow spider lilies, Lycoris aurea,
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And its "cousin" from Sth Africa, Nerine fothergilla "Major"
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A couple of blooms on Colchicum lingulatum,
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And also hidden by its neighbour, a white Cyclamen graecum
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which got cleaned up a bit the next day,
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cheers
fermi
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Good show Fermi and Paul !
Impressive Autumn colours !!!!
Thanks for sharing ! ;)
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Fermi,
I'll try to take a pic of the Gladdie at some point. They're pretty ratty plants because they haven't been repotted for a few years, but they still flower fine. I should be able to spare a corm if you're wanting one, although that always will depend on what happens between now and their dormancy of course.
Luc,
Glad you're liking the pics.
David,
It is a new Panasonic Lumix, a bit higher level than the previous one I had. I can give you more details if you're wanting them?
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Thanks Paul but I will not be changing cameras for some time yet.
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Howdy All,
Some late additions, taken in the last couple of days of March.......
Click on the pic to see larger version.
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Biarum dispar, smelling slightly off. Cute little thing though.
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This is the pic that Fermi requested of the whole plant of Gladiolus montanus. Ratty plant due to neglect as I said, but gives you the idea.
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This is the pink form of Habranthus estensis, both a full shot and a closeup of the throat. Yesterday (the 1st of April) my white form opened as well. I'll post a pic in the April topic.
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Nerine fothergillii minor
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Another small flush of flowers on my Rhodophiala bifida that only sets one or two flowers per stem. I can't remember whether I posted this here previously, or whether it was in the Amaryllidaceae section?
I'll add a couple of other pics in specific areas as well (Cyclamen, Crocus etc).
Enjoy.