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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: mark smyth on February 04, 2009, 12:02:58 AM
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Here are three lovely snowdrops that I saw this week.
'Chequers'
elwesii Ivy Cottage Green Tip
plicatus 'Wandlebury Ring'
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They're looking good in spite of the weather, Mark.
'Wandlebury Ring' looks nicer than other yellows I've seen, perhaps because it is less yellow? :-\
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Here are three lovely snowdrops that I saw this week.
'Chequers'
elwesii Ivy Cottage Green Tip
plicatus 'Wandlebury Ring'
Rats! I didn't try to order 'Wandlebury Ring' from Joe because I'd read it had narrow outers, but it looks very nice indeed in your photo, Mark. Now wish I had put it on the order. :-\ Good breeding potential.
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Here are three lovely snowdrops that I saw this week.
plicatus 'Wandlebury Ring'
What a stunner Mark!
johnw - oh, and a Happy Birthday to Felix Mendelssohn on his 200th, almost missed that one.
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'Wandlebury Ring' looks nicer than other yellows I've seen, perhaps because it is less yellow? :-\
Ooh, that's a bit below the belt, Maggi.
A local nurseryman who knows about snowdrops told me that Wandlebury Ring is much less vigorous than its near-relative Wendy's Gold. However maybe we can prove him wrong? They have a nice clump at Glen Chantry, as I recall.
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These were in a tunnel away from the snow. 'Wandlebury Ring' is a monster compared to 'Wendy's Gold' and maybe as tall as 'Atkinsii'. The green tipped elwesii is very nice and going to the Gala!
I saw 'Icicle' again for the second time in many years. Very nice snowdrop. 'Green Hayes' is another lovely snowdrop to look out for. There was also a nice round flowered broad leaved elwesii.
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I inherited a garden with a number of different snowdrops. ;D
Could anyone suggest a name for this - it was going over before I noticed it. Leaves are now under snow, but I think it is an elwesii.
Thanks in advance
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I grew this pot of seedlings with a label marked peshmenii. Clearly it is not and I think I should relabel as gracilis. Am I correct?
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I grew this pot of seedlings with a label marked peshmenii. Clearly it is not and I think I should relabel as gracilis. Am I correct?
Looks like gracilis, but to be 100% sure you need to check the leaves. If they're wrapped around each other at the base then it's elwesii, if flat against each other at the base, like nivalis leaves, then it's gracilis. Can't quite see this detail in the photo.
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Hello,
thank you for the friendly reception in the forum.
Galanthus except I'm still Anemone nemerosa, alpine plantns, gentiana (spring and autumn flowered) and my wife Cypripediumand other orchids.
Unfortunately, I speak no english. Traslated by Google Translater!!!
Kind regard wolfgang
Galanthus picturs from last year
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here are a couple of Galanthus elwesii. My g57 has a nice flower and G1 has produced flowers with only two petals. Is it stable? well both bulbs have produced two petaled flowers.
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here are a couple of Galanthus elwesii. My g57 has a nice flower and G1 has produced flowers with only two petals. Is it stable? well both bulbs have produced two petaled flowers.
Seems to me to be a symptom of widepread econimic situation, Tony.... a victim of cutbacks, obviously! ;D ;)
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Hello,
thank you for the friendly reception in the forum.
Galanthus except I'm still Anemone nemerosa, alpine plantns, gentiana (spring and autumn flowered) and my wife Cypripedium and other orchids.
Unfortunately, I speak no english. Translated by Google Translater!!!
Kind regard wolfgang
Galanthus pictures from last year
Kein Problem, das wir Sie verstehen können , Wolfgang. Sie haben gute Blumen zu zeigen. Ich hoffe auch, dass ihre Frau finden Interesse an der Orchidee Seiten.
We have no trouble understanding you, Wolfgang. You have great flowers to show us. I hope that your wife will enjoy the Orchid pages of the Forum, also.
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Tony, give G1 a few more flowerseasons. So you can find out, if it is stable. It`s notably, but it is pretty too? Because you have two flowering bulbs with the same outfit, it could be fix
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Hagen the flower is a bit squinny for my liking.
Maggi as long as you did not think I had pulled a petal of to make a galanthus look more interesting!
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Well put Maggi. :)
Wolfgang, I like your Galanthus. Number 1 is a very unusual poculiform and number 2 is beautifully marked. 8)
Tony, that is exceptional! Are the two bulbs one clone? Is this the first time they have flowered?
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Wolfgang, welcome I also think your first one is lovely.
Anthony I have just wandered down the garden in the sunshine to have another look at it and yes I think it is one clone,both the flowers on seperate bulbs are identical. It will have flowered before but I cannot say I noticed it.
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I will be watching this space next February to see if is the same. 8)
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Wolfgang - thank you for the photographs. My favourite is the second picture with green on the outer petals - does it have a name?
Tony - I love the 2 petal one. I have a stable 4 petal, and stable 6 petal. A 2 petal one has eluded me so far. Must admit to liking the 'full bodied' ones - but then always have time for the odd ones too. :)
Regards
John
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Hagen the flower is a bit squinny for my liking.
Not at all Tony, quite refined in fact! Yesterday we went out for lunch and to see snowdrops! Unfortunately the weather was not good enough for lots of photos, and the paths were small so we were getting in everyones way ::) Nonetheless here are two from yesterday, first a very nice elwesii originating from Ray Cobb and called X-Ray much admired by everyone there, Pastures Green found by Richard Hobbs. Then some from today in the garden/glasshouse Ailwyn, named after Lord Fairhaven, a kind gift from a fellow forumist, Acton Pigot No 3 and Ivy Cottage Greentips No 10.
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Brian, Michael has dropped the no. 10 in favour of 'Ivy Cottage Green Tip'
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Mark, he wrote the label and that is what it said so that is what I said!
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Brian, your pics are a pleasurable foretaste of coming times. You told us the dormant bulbseason of Avon and I bought ACTON PIGOT III. Here I see it the first time.
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Hello John,
this galanthus picture 2 is no name. I have several formes with green stripes.
many greetings, wolfgang
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Just looking through my back catalogue of pictures, I found this amusing one of what an ant must think a snowdrop looks like.
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a pleasurable foretaste of coming times.
Hagen I hope it is not too long before you can enjoy all the snowdrops and that Acton Pigot no 3 does as well for you 8)
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Wolfgang there are some lovely snowdrops with green marked outers in Germany, we are all jealous :-\
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Alan, it's a shot most of us never take
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Brian
X-Ray certainly has a meaty flower. Very nice, the whole lot in fact
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johnw
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Alan, it's a shot most of us never take
This made me smile Mark. ;D
When 'the driver', of my previous years postings, attended snowdrop open days with me I always said that he must take lots of photographs. When ever we got home I would look at his pictures - all the ones Ian took 'of people' were great and quite a few have appeared on the pages of SRGC - every single one he took of 'a snowdrop' looked exactly like Alan's Ant Picture!!.... hundreds of them!... ;D ::) ;D
Bless him.
John
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Tony - I have just remembered that I forgot to ask earlier... are there just 2 inners or 3 inners on your 2 outer petal flowers?
Kind regards
John
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Happy to put a smile on your face
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Dont tell anyone but I have a twin flowered 'Wendy's Gold'. It's an illusion. I just went out to look.
In recent years I have had twin flower stems from my bulbs. There are none this year.
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Does look like it :)
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John, I think I spot a snowdrop quiz coming on for another time..... to see how many snowdrops the galanthophiles can identify from Ian 's (driver and cake connoisseur) ant's view photos.... :D ::)
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Tony - I have just remembered that I forgot to ask earlier... are there just 2 inners or 3 inners on your 2 outer petal flowers?
Kind regards
John
John I do not know and my other picture does not show it either. I will look tomorrow and report back.
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John, I think I spot a snowdrop quiz coming on for another time..... to see how many snowdrops the galanthophiles can identify from Ian 's (driver and cake connoisseur) ant's view photos.... :D ::)
Now there is an idea for the quiet months.
(only problem is that I don't think I will know the correct answers! ::))
John
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I quite like Galanthus 'Antseyeview'. ;)
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John, I think I spot a snowdrop quiz coming on for another time..... to see how many snowdrops the galanthophiles can identify from Ian 's (driver and cake connoisseur) ant's view photos.... :D ::)
Now there is an idea for the quiet months.
(only problem is that I don't think I will know the correct answers! ::))
John
No matter, John, I'd be willing to bet no-one else would either!! ;D ;D ;D
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Snowdrops from today.
'Ailwyn' or is it 'Lady Fairhaven'? Both found at different times but are very alike.
'Alison Hilary' showing a big variation in height.
'Atkinssilvermoccasyn'. I looked at all four today and can see no difference
'Atkinsii'. Someone mentioned shot stems this year. It's affecting mine also
'Comptonarnott'. Not very different
short, late elwesii. elwesii yes, short yes but not late. Late for whoever found it but shouldnt be called late
Good ole 'Magnet'
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Mark, regarding Lady Fairhaven, Mike Broadhurst said "We are not sure whether it really exists or is just a seasonal variation of Ailwyn." Now I can see what he means, a difficult call.
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My annual galanthus post (well almost!)
Galanthus fosteri which loves it in my Greenhouse where it gets a warm dry rest in summer. It is prone to divide but they do make flowering size eventually.
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Why so short, Tony? Mine are redwoods compared to those
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They are always like that. Could be that they're kept on the dry side and of course its been cold down here for a while.
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A grocery store elwesii, bought last year, one of the ones under
a bench, neglected in an empty pot until a few weeks ago. The
others are blooming well and show no signs of their trauma.
This one looks as though it might be a yellow one, or is it just
being sickly?
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Diane
The leaf looks healthy. Promise to post the yellow flower :)
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Mark, I haven't seen Compton Court. Would you say it's not different enough from Arnott to be worth trying? I'd heard it was very vigorous. Can you confirm?
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Wolfgang's picture 3, DSCN0510.JPG, looks unusual to me,
but no one has mentioned it.
It looks as though it has anther tissue around the edge of
the inner petals.
I have seen this on semi-double primula and trillium.
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This one looks as though it might be a yellow one, or is it just
being sickly?
Now that would be another interesting find - fingers crossed it is a yellow Elwesii rather than an aborted flower.
Like Arthur says - please do show us a photograph if when the flower opens (think positive thoughts, think positive thoughts...).
Regards
John
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Martin, 'Compton Court' is vigorous and to my eye the same. I must plant some side by side for comparison. Alan Street is trialing it. I'll phone him later.
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Tony - I have just remembered that I forgot to ask earlier... are there just 2 inners or 3 inners on your 2 outer petal flowers?
Kind regards
John
Been and had a look,both flowers have only two inners and two outers ,all the rest of their bits look normal.
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Tony - I have just remembered that I forgot to ask earlier... are there just 2 inners or 3 inners on your 2 outer petal flowers?
Kind regards
John
Been and had a look,both flowers have only two inners and two outers ,all the rest of their bits look normal.
Thanks Tony.
Any chance of an 'ants eye view'?
Cheers
John
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;D
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Wolfgang's picture 3, DSCN0510.JPG, looks unusual to me,
but no one has mentioned it.
It looks as though it has anther tissue around the edge of
the inner petals.
I have seen this on semi-double primula and trillium.
At last! I was waiting for one of you to comment on this... it's from page one of this thread, I'll post Wolfgang's photo again here....
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I did see it and chose not to comment but it is unusual. I have never seen it before
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I don't see that view of enough snowdrops to be aware that this was unusual? :-\
Two years ago I managed to give away all four of my twin scaped 'Magnets', so last year the clumps produced none. :-\ Today these 'Magnet' twins peek through the snow by the front door step, in front of my passiflora.
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Ah, Bless ;)
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here are the next pictures.
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Sehr schöne Schneeglöckchen ;D
Very beautiful snowdrops ;D
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some more
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Who or what is DSCN0501.JPG
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Lovely snowdrops Wolfgang, thanks for sharing them with us.
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Who or what is DSCN0501.JPG
DSCNO 501 is Wendy's Gold
Regards Wolfgang
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Wolfgang, have you names for all your galanthus? Many people, like me, do not recognise them and the names would be helpful ?
Haben Sie Namen für Ihre Galanthus?
Viele Menschen, so wie ich, nicht erkennen und die Namen nützlich sind
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Wolfgang, have you names for all your galanthus? Many people, like me, do not recognise them and the names would be helpful ?
Haben Sie Namen für Ihre Galanthus?
Viele Menschen, so wie ich, nicht erkennen und die Namen nützlich sind
Hallo Maggi,
sorry, DSCNO 495 Scharlockii
DSCNO 501 Wendy' Gold
DSCNO 498, DSCNO 507, DSCN %03 found himself
Regards Wolfgang
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Thank you, Wolfgang 8)
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Tony my tallest G. fosteri is 7inches 18cm. The others are around 5 inches 13cm
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Birds eye view of my two petalled Galanthus elwesii,but it could be a gracilis or a natural hybrid.
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Does it do this every year?
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Thats fun Tony, interesting to see if its the same next year, my G n Sandersii's were normal last year but have 4 and 5 outers this year :)
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Definitely one to keep an eye on Tony. ;)
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They are good looking 'Wendy's'.
Two doubles from my collection
'Richard Ayres'
'Sally's Double'
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Beautiful doubles Mark, especially the stripey side of Richard Ayres. I've not seen it in the flesh, is it a tall one ?
Is that the colour of the sky with you today ? :)
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Quite tall Jo. Ivy Cottage had some on Monday so may have them at the Gala. The best double I have it 'Ailwyn'.
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Toni, if the form is constant it`s a fine cultivar. I believe Ruby Baker found such a bi-tepal-galanthus too.
Please tell me: why birds eye and not snails eye? ;D
Chubby drops Mark, look good.
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Please tell me: why birds eye and not snails eye? ;D
For a snail's eye view, there is only a plate, with a knife and fork and no flower.... the snail has eaten it ;) ;D
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WOW great snowdrops! :o
Tony yours two-petal snowdrop is very, very fine (...and belongs to one of the few species which can be grown here... 8) ;D)
Here the snowdropseason is over -the last flower and the first seedpod... ::)
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Oh Maggi I must think about it, but I believe it`s so like you write 8). When you have snails, you can`t have flower. Both isn`t possible.
Here is one of my actually slugs. Sorry no snails.
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Hi Hans,
your season is over? :(
Our will come! ;D
We will show you some pics....................later
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Thanks Hagen :) - I really enjoy all the snowdrop pics - but I am glad I cannot grow most of them - I would be poor very quickly... ;) 8) ;D
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Hagen, is your slug swimming?
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Hagen, is your slug swimming?
Looks like it, doesn't it?
Back to my clump of 'Magnet'. As the snow recedes I spot another twin scape in the same clump. Must check the other clumps tomorrow. 8)
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Yes Anne, It`s the point. The slug was full of slime and mould(?) So I put the animal under water, to see how looks it. My respect to your eyes ;)
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Anthony how long have you had this 'Magnet'?
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Years. Ian Steele got me a couple of plants long before I joined the SRGC and started going to shows.
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Anthony,
It was following some postings on twin-scaped G. 'Magnet' that I first joined the forum - after I had e-mailed you a photograph of a twin-scaped 'Magnet' in my own garden to post on the forum. I haven't taken note of whether or not there were any further twin-scaled plants since then.
Thankfully, the snow seems to have left us here in the south-east of Ireland and our snowdrops are beginning to recover.
Paddy
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The Temple Nursery catalogue arrived today. A few interesting things as well as some unknown to me. I've taken shots of it. PM me if you'd like copies of the photos of it.
johnw
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A few snowies opening up today with a bit of sun
Anglesey Abbey
Mrs Thompson
Bill Bishop
Wendy's Gold
Galatea
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And a couple of doubles
Ophelia
Hippolyta with green stripes - is this normal ???
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Lovely shots from forumists in the last two days.
johnw
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re: iPhoto and face-recognition
From Apple "As you add a photo to your library, it is scanned for areas that resemble faces. "
A snowdrop can have a sinuses and lobes, throw in Big Ears, Mrs. Backhouse's Spectacles and Curly and it may just work. Any other facial features?
johnw
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Diane is your 'Hippolyta' always green tipped? It could be 'Jacquenetta'
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Diane is your 'Hippolyta' always green tipped? It could be 'Jacquenetta'
Thanks, Mark, that certainly looks a possibility, it does have a large green inner marking as well, which does agree.
Only had it this year, so it'll be a wait to see if it's stable.
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Galanthus nivalis foundling
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Wolfgang
I like your 'foundling' - very unusual.
Regards
John
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A few from the garden this morning, two new purchases (excellent value from Sue and Wol at Glen Chantry on Friday):
Galanthus nivalis 'Cornwood'
Galanthus Byzantinus ex Warham (Rectory when the Gala had a visit to it)
The controversial Galanthus ikariae from eBay - well there was so much fuss I put a bid in to see what it was!
In the garden were, amongst other things, Galanthus plicatus byzantinus x nivalis 'Robyn Janey' and Galanthus 'Headbourne'.
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The controversial Galanthus ikariae from eBay - well there was so much fuss I put a bid in to see what it was!
Well you've certainly had the last word on that one Brian. ;D
Galanthus nivalis foundling
My goodness. That's almost like a leucojum! 8)
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Hi All
the snow has melted and I can see the 'drops again - horrah! :D Still not quite warm enough for them to lift their outers though. :(
Have just been out and taken some pictures of G 'Pat Mason' that I got this from Colesbourne last January. I can find no reference to this flower anywhere except on SRGC and on the Colesbourne 2008 list.
After Martin's comment a few weeks ago I have started to wonder, can I check if someone out there knows whether 'Galanthus Pat Mason' is indeed correct? Or whether there has been a little mistake made in the name and it is actually 'Galanthus Pat Mackenzie'? I have looked in 'the book' and it does seem to fit rather well with the description of 'Pat Mackenzie'.
Whether this is 'Pat Mason' or 'Pat Mackenzie' I must say that it is my favourtie snowdrop of this year. A handsome chunky full bodied beauty. ;D
Very interested to hear your thoughts? If no-one is sure I shall maybe write to Colesbourne and ask the history behind this lovely snowdrop?
Regards
John
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Just comparing pictures again - 'Pat Masons' petals are really wide. Comparing 'Pat Mackenzie' in the book to 'Pat Mson' in my garden - I think from side to side I think 'Pat Masons' must be double the width of 'Pat Mackenzie'.
Does that make sense?...
John ;D
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John,
Pat Mason was on dispaly last week at Colesbourne and looks identical to your example and was labelled as Pat Mason. I can't confirm if the name is correct but ceratinly what they sold you as Pat Mason is labelled as such at Colesbourne.
David
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John,
Pat Mason was on dispaly last week at Colesbourne and looks identical to your example and was labelled as Pat Mason. I can't confirm if the name is correct but ceratinly what they sold you as Pat Mason is labelled as such at Colesbourne.
David
Cheers David,
Excellent. It is my favourite flower in my collection (last year and this year). I just started to wonder, after finding there was so little information available on her, if some mistake had been made.
Good to know she is still 'Pat Mason' at Colesbourne this year. :D
Thank you.
John
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It is my favourite flower in my collection (last year and this year).
A man of taste!
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Mmm. 'Diggory' is not one that has come my way yet. :-\
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Excellent Rob. Thanks. ;D
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My 'Pat' has minute green spots so roll on 2010. Green tipped snowdrops are know to lose their tips when moved.
I have a small list of what could be for sale at the early bulb based on my purchases. PM me
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It has taken me all evening to work out how to resize and post a picture (even with the help of the advice in the general forum) - so I hope this works...
This is Brigadier Mathias bought from Felley Priory in January - glad I bought it then as it must have been at last year's price and had doubled when I called back there on the way to Gloucestershire last weekend.
It is not in the Book and I have not seen it mentioned anywhere. All they could tell me at the nursery was that it was related to Armine. To my beginner's eye the (reflexed?) spathe seems quite distinctive. Its rather military appearance is at odds with its lovely scent which is like clematis armandii only less soapy
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Brigadier Mathias was married to Winifred Mathias, Armine was their daughter and they all have snowdrops named for them. I'll send you some notes Vivien.
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I am not very sure how to call this one with its (reverse) heart ( should be the ideal valentines day present ;D 8)) - is it still a G. elwesii monostictus or a normal G elwesii? ...its a quite greenish one ...::)
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I am not very sure how to call this one with its (reverse) heart ( should be the ideal valentines day present ;D 8)) - is it still a G. elwesii monostictus or a normal G elwesii? ...its a quite greenish one ...::)
Galanthus 'My heart's in a spin'?
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A well marked monostictus I would have thought
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A well marked monostictus I would have thought
Ever the romantic, Mark?
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;D - Thanks, so I will pick it and keep it in the fridge until saturday!
I was a bit surprised about the late flowering of this one - all other monostictus faded some weeks ago and this one flowers together with the latest elwesii ssp elwesii.
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;D - Thanks, so I will pick it and keep it in the fridge until saturday!
I was a bit surprised about the late flowering of this one - all other monostictus faded some weeks ago and this one flowers together with the latest elwesii ssp elwesii.
So just in time for Valentines Day. You must make a note of its location and see if the mark is as good next year.
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How about Galanthus 'Valentine's Day'? Anyone in the UK got that one? It's like a poculiform version of 'Trym'.
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There is a snowdrop already called 'Valentines Day'
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There is a snowdrop already called 'Valentines Day'
Yes, Mark, that's what Anthony has just said..... he's asking if anyone in the UK has it...... ::)
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Yes Maggi. It's a nivalis form.
Here's a couple of pics of Galanthus elwesii 'Godfrey Owen'. It's a real gem. ;D
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Anthony,
That second photograph catches the flower very well, looks lovely.
Paddy
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Here is Galanthus 'Trumps'. I saw this plant on 'Gardener's World' long before I'd ever heard of a galanthophile. I think that's when the bug bit? :-\
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Yes Maggi. It's a nivalis form.
Here's a couple of pics of Galanthus elwesii 'Godfrey Owen'. It's a real gem. ;D
hello Anthony,
the second picture is a fantastic galanthus, super.
Unfortunately not in my garden!!!
Regards Wolfgang
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Antony, it`s a dream, but sooo far :P
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Thank you for the kind words. Birthday money well spent. ;D I hope I can look after them, and who knows, they may bulk up as quickly as 'Trym' does?
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Thank you for the kind words. Birthday money well spent. ;D I hope I can look after them, and who knows, they may bulk up as quickly as 'Trym' does?
Anthony, mine has produced a second non-flowering bulb this year. It was a single bulb this time last year so it does seem to be bulking up quickly.
David
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Definitely came up trumps David? ;D
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I am not very sure how to call this one with its (reverse) heart ( should be the ideal valentines day present
Hans - You have a big heart there.
johnw
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Here's a couple of pics of Galanthus elwesii 'Godfrey Owen'. It's a real gem. ;D
Now that is different! Thanks for posting Anthony.
johnw
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Definitely came up trumps David? ;D
Top Trumps! ;D
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Brilliant. ;D Top Trumps snowdrops. Excellent! I wonder how you would score them?
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My bulbs of 'Godfrey' arent flowering
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My bulbs of 'Godfrey' arent flowering
Hi Mark
from the ones in my garden I think that the daughters don't flower until they are three years old.
2007 - Got mine as a single bulb with two small daughters
2008 - the main bulb flowered again, the daughters a fair size but are not flowering
2009 - the main bulb is flowering again, the daughters look like they should be flowering size but are still non flowering.
2010 - I am expecting a very nice display. 8)
Only my experience in my little garden - but thought it may be interesting to you.
Cheers
John
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Maybe you need to separate them John? Godfrey might only flower on its owen? ::)
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Maybe you need to separate them John? Godfrey might only flower on its owen? ::)
Ho ho ho! ;D ::)
I did actually do that in 2008 as a precaution against troubles. Do you think I have perhaps delayed the flowering by a year doing that? They still seem to take a while from springing up to flowering 'size/age'.
John
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I bought Godfrey Owen 2007 as well Mark.
The main bulb has flowered both years & like you John there are yung'uns coming on, hopefully flowering size next year!
I was looking at the g.viridapice in bloom yesterday in my garden & you know for such a commonly available snowdrop it is really lovely. The bold sagey green tips to the outer petals would have us all putting it on our wanted lists if it had only just been found.
Mike
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I was looking at the g.viridapice in bloom yesterday in my garden & you know for such a commonly available snowdrop it is really lovely. The bold sagey green tips to the outer petals would have us all putting it on our wanted lists if it had only just been found.
Mike
I agree completely. This snowdrop is vastly underrated because it is so readily available.
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I was looking at the g.viridapice in bloom yesterday in my garden & you know for such a commonly available snowdrop it is really lovely. The bold sagey green tips to the outer petals would have us all putting it on our wanted lists if it had only just been found.
Mike
I agree completely. This snowdrop is vastly underrated because it is so readily available.
I was looking at one group of my viridapice the other day and noticed that the leaves are convolute or wrapped around on one edge. I thought viridapice was a straight nivalis cv. not a hybrid ? I have attempted to photograph what I mean.
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The book says they can be subrevolute which means "slightly rolled back from the margins" but no mention of one leaf enclosed in the other
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Mmmm thats what I thought / understood from the book. I wonder if this one has a little something in it.
I have 3 different clones and this is the only one like it.
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I'll look at mine tomorrow
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Boys and girls I was hoping to see more snowdrops this month
unknown/lost label green tipped elwesii
Fieldgate Forte
Fieldgate Prelude
Flocon
EA Bowles - open today for the first and may expand more
plicatus unknown/lost label - good chunky snowdrop with thick outers that cant be prised open
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So who's selling (not auctioning >:() real 'Flocon' and E A Bowles Mark?
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Boys and girls I was hoping to see more snowdrops this month
All I've seen in the garden recently is snow.
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No-one Anthony but I would guess Flocon will be at the Gala
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Boys and girls I was hoping to see more snowdrops this month
Well hopefully in the next fortnight the rest of us might catch up with you!
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Yesterday we had a thaw for the first time in maybe a week or more. Many of the snowdrop flowers are now ruined by turning opaque but Yellow Fever is just a few days away
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I hope so Brian. Only a few of my collection are still in bud or just emerging. There are a few surprises in the garden. Alison Hilary has more that doubled in two years as has Modern Art, Ivy Cottage Corporal and elwesii Pyramid. Maidwell L is very disppointing this year.
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Mark, hope we can show you the end of the season - in 3-4Weeks. Only frost and snow here
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I hope so Brian. Only a few of my collection are still in bud or just emerging. There are a few surprises in the garden. Alison Hilary has more that doubled in two years as has Modern Art, Ivy Cottage Corporal and elwesii Pyramid. Maidwell L is very disppointing this year.
It's strange how different ones do. My 'modern art' was up to 5 bulbs last year - this year it is gone completely - I looked in the basket and not a single bulb in sight :'(. Where as Maidwell L has doubled in number (there are now 2 of them ;D)
John
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This (elwesii) looks as though it might be a yellow one, or is it just
being sickly?
It was being sickly. The bud never opened, and is now fading away.
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In March I will be updating my web site to show all new photos taken over the last two years.
For all the new people who have never looked my gallery is here
http://www.snowdropinfo.com/gallery2007.htm (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/gallery2007.htm)
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Well, because you all insist - insist on showing me these beautiful snowdrop photographs, this galathophobic African will now have to buy several packets of Chiltern Seeds' Galanthus elwesii to try out in his warm-temperate climate! ::) This is one plant that you never see in this part of the world - perhaps we're missing out on something? ???
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It's a slippery slope you are treading on Rogan. ;D
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In March I will be updating my web site to show all new photos taken over the last two years.
For all the new people who have never looked my gallery is here
http://www.snowdropinfo.com/gallery2007.htm (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/gallery2007.htm)
That link should come with a warning :o. I don't want to catch the galanthophilia bug but it's almost impossible to stay away from the snowdrop threads. Very amusing and fun to read and also a lot of beautiful pics of snowdrops. It's a good thing most of them probably wouldn't grow well here ::)
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Last summer we went to an open day at a garden in the Yellow Book, it was very pleasant and I noticed some labels which looked quite interesting ::) A private visit was arranged for this morning and seven of us had a wonderful time looking at someone else's collection. The house was an old coaching inn in Suffolk and the garden is on a steep slope and levels out down by the river.
It was really nice to see some nice clumps of snowdrops, but like many others there was evidence of Botrytis in some areas :'(
Cedric's prolific was living up to it's name.
Selborne Green Tips had lots of twin flowers.
Lyn and some of the others in the background - Ransom's long pedicel etc
One of the clumps of Mrs Macnamara which were still looking good.
The bank was a repository for Galanthus nivalis and seedlings from around the garden.
Another view across the bank.
S.Arnott by the pond.
A very attractive fungus.
Saville Gold.
A very green snowdrop from Tony Venison.
There were other treasures like Green of Hearts, but I was talking too much :-X
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Thanks for sharing your day out Brian.
Looks like a lovely place to visit.
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Mark are they your finger tips carefully fondling E A B? ;)
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LOL, Mike. Yes.
I have snowdrops over the last few weeks and spent yesterday repotting them. Sadly and very annoying there are too many with Stag on the bulbs. These will go for a long, cold, soak in a few weeks time. Some Narcissus I bought last year are also affected. When I lift and divide them all this year I must soak everything for a long time
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The deep snow finally started melting properly here today, and what a mess it's made of the snowdrops! >:( I've never seen them look such a mess. Almost all have been completely flattened by the weight of the snow and their flowers soaked and muddied. What with the earlier freeze delaying them all, then all of them coming up at once only to be flattened by incredibly deep snow just when they were ready to open, and keeping them covered for a week, it's not been much of a season.
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Sad, Martin,but up here, when the snow finally goes I expect our snowdrops will come bouncing out happy as can be.... so few are at all advanced at the minute, they will just be safe under the snow 8)
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Just like here Martin
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Brian who's garden were you in?
Some of you are off to Ann's soon. I'm jealous but have a good time. I've looked and cant find my photos of her garden.
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Sad, Martin,but up here, when the snow finally goes I expect our snowdrops will come bouncing out happy as can be.... so few are at all advanced at the minute, they will just be safe under the snow 8)
Yes, lucky for Scottish snowdrop growers that the cold will have kept them even further back than usual, so they shouldn't have been too badly affected by the snow. Here, they were just at the worst stage for heavy snow, their flowers all opening at the same time, and the snow flakes were so huge that instead of settling around the flower stems, as often happens, the flower stems were just pushed down and completely flattened against the wet soil. Leaves too - never seen them looking so flat and sorry.
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Does anyone grow elwesii Ransom's Dwarf? Would you have any to spare?
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The bank was a repository for Galanthus nivalis and seedlings from around the garden.
Another view across the bank.
Lovely pictures of the snowdrop bank, Brian. I am full of admiration for gardens where they manage to maintain these lovely drifts. They look so natural but the natural state of a woodland is to be full of rough grass, tree seedlings (you can see a holly seedling in one of the pics), brambles, bl****lls and other wild flowers. We have a woodland garden and keeping the small areas where I am trying to naturalise some nivalis clear is very hard work. The latest small patch has about 100 sycamore seedlings coming up with the snowdrops. If anyone has any maintenance tips I would love to hear them.
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Lovely pictures of the snowdrop bank, Brian. I am full of admiration for gardens where they manage to maintain these lovely drifts. They look so natural but the natural state of a woodland is to be full of rough grass, tree seedlings (you can see a holly seedling in one of the pics), brambles, bl****lls and other wild flowers. We have a woodland garden and keeping the small areas where I am trying to naturalise some nivalis clear is very hard work. The latest small patch has about 100 sycamore seedlings coming up with the snowdrops. If anyone has any maintenance tips I would love to hear them.
I recommend stating loudly, in the garden, that you intend to farm the sycamore seedlings for huge profit..... undoubtedly, once they hear this, each and every seedling will wither and die before your eyes! ;D ::)
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;D ;D I wish :(
At least I can see the snowdrops.... the daffodil bank is covered in brambles and with this weather it will not be cleared before they flower.
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hello Brian,
This "lovely fungus" is very dangerous. Roots of these fungus destroy the rhizome of Anemone nemerosa.
I lost a few Anemone nemerosa.
Regard Wolfgang
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Well, Vivien, you could try the same trick with the brambles..... threaten jam making business..... ::)
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hello Brian,
This "lovely fungus" is very dangerous. Roots of these fungus destroy the rhizome of Anemone nemerosa.
I lost a few Anemone nemerosa.
Regard Wolfgang
OH!! I never heard that before! Very interesting indeed, thank you.
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Hi Wolfgang ,
I'm sorry to correct you but this fungus ( Aleuria aurantia ) are not danger - it is possibly to eat it them ( more than one time ) - I have never heard before that this fungus are danger for plants...
Hans
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Wolfgang the Anenome fungus, Dumontinia tuberosa, is brown. The photo shows an Elf Cup
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Brian!
Oohhhhhh, (dreamy smile :)) - to have a bank like that to chuck the seedpods, wouldn't that be an interesting place to ponder year after year after year after.... 8)
Unfortunately that bank is bigger than my entire garden! If any one wants to give me 1/4+ acre somewhere within an hour and a quarters commute of London please let me know by P.M. - it is my birthday next month. ;D
John ::)
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Mark, is this the one that affects Anemones?
http://users.skynet.be/bs133881/champis/dumontinia_tuberosa_(yd)_1.htm
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Mark, is this the one that affects Anemones?
http://users.skynet.be/bs133881/champis/dumontinia_tuberosa_(yd)_1.htm
Hello Maggi, Mark und Hans,
the image of maggi is this fungus.I differently had it in mind.
sorry, Wolfgang
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Here are a couple of photos of a 2x2-petal G. elwesii that was found by a friend this year. The inners are at 90 degrees to the outers, it also has quite a strong sent. If it survives I wonder if it will it be the same next year? He would be pleased to know your opinion.
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No need to apologise. We all make mistakes
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No problem Wolfgang 8)
it is always difficould to find the correct name of fungus
Good luck for your anemones
Hans
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Mark, is this the one that affects Anemones?
http://users.skynet.be/bs133881/champis/dumontinia_tuberosa_(yd)_1.htm
Hello Maggi, Mark und Hans,
the image of maggi is this fungus.I differently had it in mind.
sorry, Wolfgang
Wolfgang, I have searched for pictures of both these fingi... there are many of the Aleuria aurantia that look very similar to the Dumontinia tuberosa.....very confusing for the likes of me!
Best to be cautious about these things.... I am lucky to have a good friend who can make sure I eat only the best wild fungi! ;) :D
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hello Brian,
This "lovely fungus" is very dangerous. Roots of these fungus destroy the rhizome of Anemone nemerosa.
I lost a few Anemone nemerosa.
Regard Wolfgang
Thank you for that Wolfgang I will pass the warning on to the owner.
Also by proxy thankyou for the nice comments on this garden, John I too would love a bank like that, but Norfolk is flat (according to Noel Coward!).
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Hi Brian
you know I like the oddities and unusual snowdrops. I have been after a 2 petal one for many years and I really like the way that your friend's example displays it inners so perfectly - but..... I think the ovary is, relatively, far too small.
I am usually attracted to nice bulging reproductive bits. ;D:-[ ::)
Cheers
John
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Here are a couple of photos of a 2x2-petal G. elwesii that was found by a friend this year. The inners are at 90 degrees to the outers, it also has quite a strong sent. If it survives I wonder if it will it be the same next year? He would be pleased to know your opinion.
If it's stable, he'd have to call it 'Eeyore' ;) ;D
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Here are a couple of photos of a 2x2-petal G. elwesii that was found by a friend this year. The inners are at 90 degrees to the outers, it also has quite a strong sent. If it survives I wonder if it will it be the same next year? He would be pleased to know your opinion.
If it's stable, he'd have to call it 'Eeyore' ;) ;D
Hee Haw Hee Haw. ;D You're definitely outstanding in your field Maggi. Maybe you should be out standing in it after that.? ::)
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Pots..... kettle..... black?? ;D
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If it's stable, he'd have to call it 'Eeyore'
Nice one Maggi, I have the feeling you like the galanthus thread!! ;D
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Here's a couple snowdrops from today.
Crocus are now pusing up fast, Anemome blandas are above ground, bluebell leaves are up and Eranthis Guinea Gold, Pauline and Orange Glow in full flower. Has anyone ever tried cutting Eranthis bulbs to propagate them? Sadly not a sign of Noel Ayres or the yellow one
'Alison Hilary' showing a great variation in size
elwesii ex Colesbourne
elwesii 'Green Tip' - one everyone should grow
'Godfrey Owen' - in Wol's polytunnel
plicatus 'Wendy's Gold' - what was thinking taking them at that angle
an odd marked 'Sickle'
Wol's excellent 'South Hayes'
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Here are a few pictures of a couple of recent purchases-- Galanthus 'Ginns'. I had a look on Marks Web Site and found 'Ginns Imperati' are they one and the same (I speak, of course as non-Galanthophile)? The other is Galanthus plicatus 'Augustus' named, I'm told, for EA Bowles.
The last picture is a clump of Galanthus 'Hippolyta' in my bulb bed and I'm sure to show more as soon as (if!) the flowers open. Sue Gill sent me the original couple of bulbs in 2006 where they spent an unhappy year in a pot in my greenhouse. I planted them out in my bulb bed and they only did a little better last year, but now are making a very nice clump. I hope they elongate a bit though.
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Whoops! Missed the Galanthus 'Hippolyta'
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David.... be sure and smell the
gin sorry... Ginn's .... it's really lovely.....
......watch the Augustus.... isn't it notoriously prone to virus ??? :P
...well done on the Hippolytas, they are clumping nicely .... :D
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My Hippolyta is in full flower. ?your Augustus doesnt look quite right. The inner mark is too big
http://www.snowdropinfo.com/plicatus-augustus.html (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/plicatus-augustus.html)
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My Augustus had paler yellowish inverted V-shaped indentations on the top on the uppermost marks. And on all the flowers. Viral as you might guess.
johnw
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Be interesting to if 'South Hayes' performs as well for me?
There's something that puzzles me about your 'Flocon de Neige', Mark? I thought it was like 'Godfrey Owen': i.e. pure double? Yours just seems to have large inner petals alternating with the outers. :-\
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It was forced top open and hasnt extended yet. If tomorrow is a nice day I'll bring it inside again
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A couple of unusual seedlings of elwesii from an old garden.
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A couple of unusual seedlings of elwesii from an old garden.
Diane
Love that skinny elwesii, I think you have a winner there.
johnw
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Love that skinny elwesii, I think you have a winner there.
Me too - very nice.
Diane - you are having a very good season for interesting finds! 8)
I raise my hat to you.
John
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Next decent day we're heading to our favourite snowdroppy churchyard.
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Gosh Diane you are making some finds, quick leave the computer and see what else is out there ;)
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My Hippolyta is in full flower. ?your Augustus doesnt look quite right. The inner mark is too big
yes i agree with john, virus tends to distort the inner mark between individuals.
and as we known augustus is heavily infected.
rob
....... So I should chuck mine out then??
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I have Augustus in my garden
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Me too.
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today I can`t deny it anymore >:(,my Augustus are also virused and I will get rid of them.
anyone want to swap healthy Augustus for Hippolyta or Washfield Warham?
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I understand there are viruses and viruses. My Augustus look very healthy, are bulking and flowering well, and I have no plans to dig them up whether people say they are virused or not.
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Me too. ;D
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Mark and Anthony,
you both have virused Augustus in the garden? ???
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Doesn't everyone? ;)
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Mark and Anthony,
you both have virused Augustus in the garden? ???
Sssh! You're all going to get Maggi started again!
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Ooer. :-[
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Thanks folks. Having just bought it and it showing no signs of virus that can recognise (indeed the only problem seems to be Mark's view that the mark is wrong) I shall stick it in the garden and see how I go.
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At least two people are bulking virus free Augustus
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Maybe barking in the wind, but isn't the texture of the petals of 'Augustus' and 'Diggory' due to virus? Remove the virus and you remove the crinkles.
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Maybe barking in the wind, but isn't the texture of the petals of 'Augustus' and 'Diggory' due to virus? Remove the virus and you remove the crinkles.
Really?? :o
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Diane,
Love the 'Skinny', a truly different, distinct and very nice snowdrop.
Paddy
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There's something that puzzles me about your 'Flocon de Neige', Mark? I thought it was like 'Godfrey Owen': i.e. pure double? Yours just seems to have large inner petals alternating with the outers. :-\
Hi All
I read Anthony's post - and read it again later - and then read it again.....
I have looked at Mark's picture again, and then again another day, and then again.....
(http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3035.0;attach=103767;image)
Is that really as good as it gets? :-\ I have done some quick searching for other pics but have failed to find many. I think I prefer Godfrey Owen - can someone please describe how Flocon is better? :)
I must say that if this illustrates 'Flocon de Neige' in it's full beauty - then I am not that impressed. :-\ And will not be paying £100 for one (not that I would anyway! ::))
Cheers all
John
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It has to expand
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p.s.
put this into google 'images':
'galanthus flocon de neige' and .......
.... the first two pages show the avatars of Yours trully, Mark, Michael, Diane, Gerard and Paddy - but not a single Galanthus Flocon!
;D :D :)
John
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And I am definitely no flocon de niege!
By the way, John, are you finished with my hat yet - the one you put on Mark's head recently?
Paddy
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Diane,
Love the 'Skinny', a truly different, distinct and very nice snowdrop.
Paddy
me too. 8)
Just been out with a torch to compare it to 'wasp' (the flower - not the torch! ::)) and it is very different and I like/want the one in your picture just as much. :P
Jx
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It has to expand
Looking much more better now Mark, but are the green marks on the in-between petals not consistant with expanded inners and not an extra set of outers?
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And I am definitely no flocon de niege!
By the way, John, are you finished with my hat yet - the one you put on Mark's head recently?
Paddy
Sorry Paddy - I wanted to pass your hat on to Hagen ;) - but the Giraffe galloped off into the sunset with it!
John ;D
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It has to expand
Looking much more better........................
How much more is better? ;D ???
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My 'Augustus' cost me £3.50 from Desireable Plants!! :o
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[diggory is not virused....
nor is three ships which also has textured outer segments, as well as many other plicatus cultivars (read monograph!).
the puckering is caused by something else.
rob
Perhaps you can point me to the relevant page Rob? I can't find any mention. :(
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first a Galanthus from Wol and Sue's open day
'Erway'
?'Hippolyta'
pot of 'Mark's Tall'
nivalis 'Viridapice' - every collection should have this 'drop
'White Wings' 'WP8' - I've shown it before but it's lovely with rain drops
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Mark
As a junior galanthophile, without your year's of experience, I would be horrified if I found a flower like 'White Wings' - it looks virused :o
How do you determine that this is OK and not virus?
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You're not a juniour going by what I saw last week ;D
The leaves are OK.
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The leaves are OK.
Mark
Is this the main/only feature by which you judge if a plant has virus?
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Mark, what is the difference between 'Warei' and 'Viridapice'? Is it just the length of the spathe, as these look just like my 'Viridapice'?
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I have no other method for checking for virus other than broken green marks which I suppose this plant seem to have. I dont mind virused snowdrop in the garden provided they aren't close enough to rub leaves in case they swap sap.
I only have the following visibly virused snowdrops Clare Blakeway-Phillips, Augustus, Faringdon Double and ?
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Well spotted Anthony!! 10 brownie points to you.
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I will take a pic of my 'Viridapice' tomorrow. Must split them up as they seem to be taking over. ::) I have several clumps and two large potfuls. Wonder if anyone would buy them at the EBD? £1.50 each? :-\
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I don't have any Viridipice ::)
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well you do now. Well ... if you can wait until April
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The leaves are OK.
Mark
Is this the main/only feature by which you judge if a plant has virus?
My garden is tiny.
I look for signs on leaves and inner markings - anything that is more than 5% abnormal on the leaves gets moved 50 miles to mothers house. :D
I saw the inner marks on that photo and sensed the hairs on the back of my neck raising - that inner mark shows signs of virus (in my paranoid mind) - for me the leaves and inner marks together get my digging trowel out!
I used to grow Augustus - but I dug it up 2 year ago as it was fine for a while and then looked really virused - and i mean really virused, so had to go.
J ;D
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Here is a clump of poculiform elwesii that a friend found in a
garden that she maintains.
She has lent me the potful so I can get some seeds from them.
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Here is a clump of poculiform elwesii that a friend found in a
garden that she maintains.
She has lent me the potful so I can get some seeds from them.
Diane, have you ever thought of starting a snowdrop nursery? You seem to have easily accumulated enough treasures; you just need to bulk them up and start selling!
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Diane,
That is an extraordinary snowdrop.
Paddy
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I'm going to cry. :'( ;D Diane, I think you have added more new unusual snowdrops to the Forum than I have seen in many a year. That potful must take this year's snowdrop prize for beauty? 8)
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They are very beautiful. I hope they are being twin scaled and passed around. You dont want all your eggs/snowdrops in one basket
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Anthony - I think I am going to join you in that darkened room, I feel the tears welling up already. What a beautiful snowdrop. :P Diane - you and your friends definitely have 'the eye' for finding nice Galanthus.
Hmmmm, :-\ Do I go to Budapest or Canada for a holiday next year....
John ;D
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Galanthus 'Wheretheellarewe' (aka G.'Atkinsii)
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Diane,
that poc elwesii is sooooo pretty,love it
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Hmmmm, :-\ Do I go to Budapest or Canada for a holiday next year....
John ;D
That's an easy one, John! Both!!!
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I'm crying again. :'( 'King hound trod on the one bud of 'Benhall Beauty' and snapped it off. >:(
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That's an easy one, John! Both!!!
;D ;D ;D
It is quiet in here today - I wonder why that could be! ;)
John
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It'll be even more quiet later, John.... when the rugby begins!
Just been having a look in the garden.... not that there is much to see.... still lots of snow. Some funny flat patches about........ Lily likes to roll in the snow!
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i think diane will soon be rich ;D
rob
Well, not me. Those pocs belong to a professional gardener who also runs
a small home-based nursery.
I do have three clones that I found at my grandparents'.
There are only a few of us here who are crazy about snowdrops - not enough
to make any of us rich.
Last year at a Hellebore Day at a public garden, we also sold Cyclamen coum
in flower (all sold), some potted elwesii from a wholesaler (four per pot for $3 -
half sold), and pots of flowering Scharlockii, Lady Beatrix Stanley, and Magnet,
one per pot for $4. Only seven pots sold.
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Was hoping to go to the first snowdrop festival at Brodsworth Hall near Doncaster today but it has been cancelled. Have not been to the garden for a few years but they have apparently planted half a million snowdrops in the last few years. they had ordered 20,000 from Cambo for kids to plant there over half term but Cambo have not been able to dig them up.
I have a few pictures from my Gloucestershire visit on 31st Jan. Coulesbourne have had to cancel again this weekend because of the state of the car park (= field). It is a shame for the charities who run the tea room. If any one gets there later I can recommend the pineapple cake!
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Hi Vivien
photo 32 is so funny! ;D
I didn't get to Colesbourne this year but have been the last few years.
Painswick (I am guessing the Rococo garden) is a place I have never been - so thank you very much for the photographs.
John
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photo 32 is so funny!
I'm guessing you meant photo 34, John??
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;D ;D ;D
That's the one. Looking at it again I have a horrible feeling it may be a SRGC forum member! :o
John
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Back from the Gala and two days worth of threads to catch up on!
Diane super pocs.
Photo 34 could be seen all over the country at the moment ;)
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;D ;D ;D
That's the one. Looking at it again I have a horrible feeling it may be a SRGC forum member! :o
John
Well spotted John, it's me!
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Oh Brian, yes it could be seen all over the country at the moment but it (may?) must be a SRGC forum member! I believe, we are the champions (Queen). ;D
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David you are a real champion. But only the first. Many will follow you.
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;D ;D ;D
That's the one. Looking at it again I have a horrible feeling it may be a SRGC forum member! :o
John
Well spotted John, it's me!
Might have known it David!
Lovely to meet several forumists at the Gala, and I did see Mark Smyth across a very crowded plant sale too.
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Here's a photo David took...
What no Hat???
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;D ;D ;D
That's the one. Looking at it again I have a horrible feeling it may be a SRGC forum member! :o
John
Well spotted John, it's me!
you....and the somewhat fed-up Mrs Quinton, going by her body language!! ::)
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cold, fed up, not feeling well and in need of the loo by the looks of it!
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cold, fed up, not feeling well and in need of the loo by the looks of it!
So long as Quinton Junior is not bundled up in the rucksack :o
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Have just come back from the gala and would like to make a plea for people to leave their rucksacks at home! They take up the space of another person and prevent other people from getting to the sales tables as well as being pretty painful when you're swiped in the face etc.
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Welcome, Sue!
Did you manage, rucksacks notwithstanding, to fight your way to the sales tables and get some goodies?
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Have just come back from the gala and would like to make a plea for people to leave their rucksacks at home! They take up the space of another person and prevent other people from getting to the sales tables as well as being pretty painful when you're swiped in the face etc.
Well I suppose that's one way to make an entrance? ::)
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Last year at a Hellebore Day at a public garden, we also sold Cyclamen coum
in flower (all sold), some potted elwesii from a wholesaler (four per pot for $3 -
half sold), and pots of flowering Scharlockii, Lady Beatrix Stanley, and Magnet,
one per pot for $4. Only seven pots sold.
Diane - What a tragedy, all those good things left over. Next time I wonder if we could line up some to fly on to Nova Scotia for our local chapter. Our members are keen for those kind of plants. Maybe Carol could box and send air freight to us? In fact she's coming in late March so if there are leftovers we can help out.
johnw
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I'm just in the door and can report we have long lost 'brothers' on the forum. Two of the boys are soooo alike. What do they think? We had the time to do a forum members photo shoot but it didnt happen
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:o - Oh Diane :o - when ever it should be possible I also would like to order this superb "Diane Whitehead Snowdrop Collection" 8)
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;D
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Have just come back from the gala and would like to make a plea for people to leave their rucksacks at home! They take up the space of another person and prevent other people from getting to the sales tables as well as being pretty painful when you're swiped in the face etc.
They would only return next year with these baskets.
johnw
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...We had the time to do a forum members photo shoot but it didnt happen
I think that was because nobody would agree to take the photo and therefore not be in the picture!
If you were there and saw somebody with a ridiculously long knitted scarf, that was me. It very very rarely gets an outing.
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I would have been nice to see who was there? :D
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Alan B, David Quinton, Jo, moi, Martin Bax, Emma 'Thick Gardener' and many lurkers
To all those who are expecting me at the CGS snowdrop day I apologise now because I will not be there. So many sad faces today. There will be another year.
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...and me. I know what you mean Sue there was very little room to get around.
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I would have been nice to see who was there? :D
Oh, Anthony, don't tell me you weren't there yourself! You were the one who got me to wear the scarf.
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Crikey, what a bunch, you didn't even all manage to meet up, it seems ::) Too busy shopping, I'll wager. And you grab a passer by to take the photo .... Mrs Q could have snapped you, or one of the other significant others.....dear me, I despair :'(
Who is speaking to Mark in Brian's David's photo titled "What no hat" ? Mark is the one with his back to the camera in a cream woolly jumper .... :)
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I would have been nice to see who was there? :D
Oh, Anthony, don't tell me you weren't there yourself! You were the one who got me to wear the scarf.
Alas no, for all the good it did me. :(
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Here is a clump of poculiform elwesii that a friend found in a
garden that she maintains.
She has lent me the potful so I can get some seeds from them.
WOW, Diane!! I didn't see your pics of the poculiform elwesii until just now, having left early yesterday evening for the snowdrop gala (Friday 13th night in a hotel nearby as I hate early starts and would have had to get up at 5 in the morning to drive down on the day). Again, WOW!!! If you have any spare pollen when you've done your crosses, I know some nice elwesii in my garden that would love to have your pocs' babies! :o
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Alan B, David Quinton, Jo, moi, Martin Bax, Emma 'Thick Gardener' and many lurkers
To all those who are expecting me at the CGS snowdrop day I apologise now because I will not be there. So many sad faces today. There will be another year.
Steve Owen was there too.
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I really must stop wearing my full-length cashmere coat to snowdrop events. I saw a photo of myself on someone's digital camera at Myddelton House. I was crouching down a bit to look at a snowdrop clump and I have to agree with the photographer that I look like I might have a spade hidden under the coat! Actually, come to think of it...
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I look like I might have a spade hidden under the coat! Actually, come to think of it...
So that's the ace up your sleeve.
johnw
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I look like I might have a spade hidden under the coat! Actually, come to think of it...
So that's the ace up your sleeve.
johnw
:D Just spent much too long trying to come up with a card game type riposte, but I've got nothing. Hang on. No, nothing.
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SNAP!!!!! ;D
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SNAP!!!!! ;D
;D Okay, I'm obviously much too tired after the galanthus gala and all that driving to play this game. All I can say is...nope, still nothing. I'm going to bed (I must need some sleep, I just typed 'going' twice as 'goign').
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Martin can't 'Trump' that one.
And with that to London.
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;D ;D ;D
That's the one. Looking at it again I have a horrible feeling it may be a SRGC forum member! :o
John
Well spotted John, it's me!
I thought as much - I recognised your ...... ::) hat and the Mrs. ;D
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I'm just in the door and can report we have long lost 'brothers' on the forum. Two of the boys are soooo alike. What do they think? We had the time to do a forum members photo shoot but it didnt happen
Which two Mark?
John
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I'll let them answer first ;D They maybe didnt see the resemblence. I should have taken the camera out
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I'm just in the door and can report we have long lost 'brothers' on the forum. Two of the boys are soooo alike. What do they think? We had the time to do a forum members photo shoot but it didnt happen
Which two Mark?
John
I think Mark's talking about me and David Quinton. I recall a comment to that effect, but I think it was just because we both have short hair; apart from that, David's a handsome, fine figure of a young man and I'm well...as Mark so succinctly put it "Martin! You've changed a lot since I saw you last!" True, very true. The picture in the attic stopped working some years ago. :)
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Here's some starting to open now that the snow has virtually gone.
Dionysus
Finchale Abbey
South Hayes
Baylham
Desdemona
Wendy's Gold
nivalis
rizehensis.
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with us in the garden is still snow.
Wolfgang
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Hallo Wolfgang,
heute sind wohl alle Nichtkontinentalen zu den Schneeglöckchen-Galas. Da können wir getrost mal deutsch miteinander reden. Hier sieht es ebenfalls trostlos weil schneereich aus ;)
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Hallo Hagen,
Es scheint so, das heute alles Unterwegs zu Börsen ist. Bei mir hat es die Nacht wieder tüchtig geschneit
Wir müssen uns eben noch in Geduld üben.
Gruß, Wolfgang
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Do you remember maybe a week ago there was a brief discussion re twin scaped Wendy's Gold? I see Anthony has one.
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Do you remember maybe a week agao there was a brief discussion re twin scaped Wendy's Gold? I see Anthony has one.
I can't see it Mark, the bottom right ones look like they may come from two bulbs, one behind the other. We thought we'd spotted a triple flowered snowdrop in one garden, but the owner stuck their great clodhoppers on the bed in question and untangled three flowers! ::)
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Far left?
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Now that the snow has gone I have just spotted a group of 4 of my S. Arnott has another flower just appearing through the sheath. Is this what is meant by twin-scaped? Is it likely to persist?. I had one bulb like this last year but did not mark which one it was.
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Far left?
Ah could well be, Anthony?
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There is a Wendy's doing that in my garden too - maybe it is just one of those years.
John
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There is a Wendy's doing that in my garden too - maybe it is just one of those years.
John
I have one doing it too. Must be a good year for it.
David
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and all of Anne Borill's Wendy's were twins.
I hear the Scottish 'Gala' will be less attended so a good idea for everyone to head north so get some elbow room.
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Now that the snow has gone I have just spotted a group of 4 of my S. Arnott has another flower just appearing through the sheath. Is this what is meant by twin-scaped? Is it likely to persist?. I had one bulb like this last year but did not mark which one it was.
My understanding of "twin scaped" is two flower stalks from the same sheath (so therefore the same bulb). Quite a few snowdrops do this quite frequently and Mark had asserted that his Wendy's Gold always do; except not this year as it turned out. A much rarer phenomenon is two flowers on the same scape.
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We had an overnight trip to the Gala, meeting up with Norfolk friends at Benington Lordship as we wanted to see the snowdrops there. Although the garden was actually closed on Friday we were able to go round and see what was not under snow! The moat is smothered in snowdrops and there are great drifts in the garden around the house on the side that abuts the church. The poor wee things were pushing through the snow still in some places. The remains of a Norman motte and bailey castle provide a wonderful setting for the house. There was a pretty little snowdrop with a face pattern in the rose garden, although we saw Richard the gardener when we arrived we weren't able to ask which it was. Other things were starting to flower like the crocus. Having walked round the garden we went into the churchyard as there were drifts there too and then into the church via the porch where this lovely stained glass memorial window caught our eye, one for you Maggi.
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What a fine pair of windows, Brian..... with snowdrops in one as fine and fat as the 'drops in the gardens!
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I thought they were both most appropriate Maggi, and provided a most attractive addition to the pretty little church.
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As the sun was out and it was reasonably warm - 7c- we went back to Fullarton woods to see if the snowdrops had survived the snow and frosts. No problem, they looked better than ever. I took one picture from the same viewpoint as the last posting and compared them. There now seemed to be twice as many as before. There was one picture I could not resist, that of a wee girl picking snowdrops for her mum. She walked through the drifts carefully and only picked one from each clump. In her pink coat and blond hair she was a picture. I did ask her mother if I could take her picture and made sure I did not show her face. It's sad that you have to act in this way but times have changed since I was young.
I think it was Paddy who asked me about the woods. The area has a historic significance. There was a 12th century Fortalice there owned by Wallace's uncle, Sir Reginald Crawford. After a night of feasting and merriment, Wallace and Crawford went to Ayr to answer the summons of the English governor. They had forgotten the charter for peace and Wallace returned for it . On his way back to Ayr, he found out that his uncle and the rest of the delegation had been hanged. In revenge, Wallace burned the barns of Ayr with the governor inside. This kicked off the Independence struggle.
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Great pictures Tom - Fullerton woods are looking at their best this week it seems.
A few pictures from yesterday. I managed to convince some 'non snowdrop' friends that we should have a day out - we started the day at Goodnestone Park near Canterbury, Kent (for the 'Snowdrop and Hellebore extravaganza' ;)) and then went for a walk in a woodland on the way home (which happened to have lots of snowdrops in it too ;)).
(Unfortunately the snowdrops at Goodnestone Park's open day were quite behind and not at their full glory).
Regards
John
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What species are in the wood, TC?
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Do you remember maybe a week ago there was a brief discussion re twin scaped Wendy's Gold? I see Anthony has one.
Anthony has three. ;D
What species are in the wood, TC?
I would imagine nivalis Mark?
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Mark
As Anthony has said, they are probably nivalis although I have not bothered to check. However, I would not be surprised if there were some different self seeded specimens amongst this lot considering the length of time the plants have been growing there. It would have to be something really noticeable before I could see it ! However, there are some flowers that are quite a bit larger than others. This I have assumed is just to do with growing conditions.
John
It's nice to see pictures of another snowdrop wood although it is a surprise to see our plants are well ahead of those 470 miles south ! I have to admit that I prefer to see the snowdrops in a "wild wood" as opposed to a garden setting. Last year we went to a snowdrop garden near Portpatrick, on the Mull of Galloway. They had quite an array of varieties and cultivars but I could not be bothered grovelling on my hands and knees to look at them. I prefer the impact of a swathe of blooms even if they are the commonest varieties.
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I have to admit that I prefer to see the snowdrops in a "wild wood" as opposed to a garden setting. Last year we went to a snowdrop garden near Portpatrick, on the Mull of Galloway. They had quite an array of varieties and cultivars but I could not be bothered grovelling on my hands and knees to look at them. I prefer the impact of a swathe of blooms even if they are the commonest varieties.
I agree about the drifts, but I do think that the collection in the Edinburgh Botanic Garden rockery looks very good. You don't have to bend down so far to see them. I hope there will be some people taking pics at the Gala on Friday to show us!
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It's the muddy knees that separate the galanthophiles from the crowd Tom. ;D
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Here's one of my clumps of 'Sandersii' growing under a red Acer. Some strange goings on with the inner petals? :-\
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Is that another twin top right?
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I suspect not. Will check.
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I saw this snowdrop at Myddleton House on Saturday and took its picture because it seemed the inner petal lacked a notch. I could not get very close and had to take this with my camera held at arms length but the photo seems to confirm my observation. Is this unusual?
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The annual trip to Walsingham today. Brilliant massed display in pristine condition after all the cold weather.
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I saw this snowdrop at Myddleton House on Saturday and took its picture because it seemed the inner petal lacked a notch. I could not get very close and had to take this with my camera held at arms length but the photo seems to confirm my observation. Is this unusual?
A fine snowdrop, and the lack of notch is unusual. What species Alan?
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I saw a few without notches there. Anthony there was a mixture of nivalis, elwesii, plicatus and ikariae and masses of hybrids. Did anyone buy this snowdrop? Almost yellow ovary and mark and a deep notch.
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A fine snowdrop, and the lack of notch is unusual. What species Alan?
Good question. I think it must have been plicatus, or seemingly so. The majority of the snowdrops there are plicatus and I presume I would remember if this one was obviously different.
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At last a little raise in the temperature and something moving here. Here are a few of mine
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Really good groups, Ian.
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I see son of Wendy looks like Wendy but lacks her Gold. Has anybody grown a seedling from Wendy that retains the yellow colour?
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Ian
Beautiful snowdrops - the yellows are particularly fine :)
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Alan I was told that if the green one was pollinated with pollen from Wendy's Gold there was a possibility of yellow children. If this is correct I am sure that someone who understands these things in detail can explain this
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Is son of a Wendy a cross with a green parent?
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Lovely clumps Ian, a treat to see them.
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This message is part of today’s report in the Thread Weekly Lisse
Flower Show:
There was a Dutch raised Galanthus which until now I did
not spot before (But I have not seen so many!)
I would like to know what specialists mean about it, so I place
the pictures in the Galanthus February Thread too.
Are there any look alikes??
Galanthus Green Brush 1
Galanthus Green Brush 2
BTW there are some other snowdrops in todays report too.
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Luit, I am not really a galanthopile yet but I like that drop,very nice
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yes it's a very nice green tipped elwesii
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Like Mark already told: very good. who is the exhibitor?
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wheres my post gone??? ???
rob
Which post? :o Did you make it in "Galanthus Events", by mistake??
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Three Irish snowdrops in flower here at the moment.
G. 'Lady Moore'
G. Captain Dunstan's Snowdrop (not an official name)
G. 'Woodtown'
Paddy
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I see son of Wendy looks like Wendy but lacks her Gold. Has anybody grown a seedling from Wendy that retains the yellow colour?
I have a few hybrid seedlings from Wendy's Gold growing on which will very obviously be yellow flowered as the leaves are distinctly yellowish and the leaf bases are bright yellow, but they have yet to flower. Another couple of years I think.
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Martin,
Would an examination of the leaves of Wendy's Gold seedlings give a good indication of the colour of the flowers?
I had a good seedpod on a 'Wendy's Gold' two years ago, scraped back the chipped bark on the bed and put the seed under it. Now, I have a nice clump of leaves but not yet of a size to flower. I must look more closely at their colour tomorrow and will live in hope of another yellow-flowered snowdrop in another few years. It is interesting to see the seedlings grow on.
Paddy
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Martin,
Would an examination of the leaves of Wendy's Gold seedlings give a good indication of the colour of the flowers?
I had a good seedpod on a 'Wendy's Gold' two years ago, scraped back the chipped bark on the bed and put the seed under it. Now, I have a nice clump of leaves but not yet of a size to flower. I must look more closely at their colour tomorrow and will live in hope of another yellow-flowered snowdrop in another few years. It is interesting to see the seedlings grow on.
Paddy
Paddy, yellow flowers tend to be accompanied by yellowish leaves, especially at the leaf bases - but not to be confused with yellow colouring where leaves have been denied daylight (e.g. below soil level or when covered up). I'm assuming that seedlings that show very distinct yellowing of the leaves and leaf bases and have a yellow parent are likely to be yellow flowered. Check the bases of the leaves just above soil level.
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Many thanks, Martin. I'll have a close look at them tomorrow and probably will manage to convince myself that I can see a certain amount of yellow and so keep my hopes alive that yellow flowers may indeed follow.
Paddy
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I forgot to post a photograph of G. 'David Shackleton' which is of Irish origin and in flower at present.
Paddy
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A moment of sunshine, enjoyed by a honey bee which came to collect pollen from G. 'S. Arnott' it would seem.
Paddy
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G. 'Kildare' a Ruby Baker find while travelling in Ireland. It came back to Ireland, to my garden at any rate, via Germany. It's amazing how these snowdrops can travel.
Paddy
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Look's like just what the doctor ordered? 8) I like 'David Shackleton' too.
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Paddy
Are the tips on Kildare yellow, or a very light green?
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Paddy
Are the tips on Kildare yellow, or a very light green?
Light green.
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Arthur,
Light green, as Martin said, and it is a case of green lines rather than a green tip. This is the first time I have had it in flower in the garden so it is a new one to me. I don't think it is a strikingly different snowdrop but because of its Irish origins I was interested in it.
Paddy
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Like Mark already told: very good. who is the exhibitor?
Hagen, do you want to make a bid ? ;D
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It's amazing how these snowdrops can travel.
Paddy
Like Greek crocus seed I received via Tasmania & New Zealand. What a great Forum 8)
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Luit, if I do nothing I will never come to this beauty. 8)
May be the exhibitor looks for other fine drops?!
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Luit, if I do nothing I will never come to this beauty. 8)
May be the exhibitor looks for other fine drops?!
Hagen, the exhibitor is a wholesale grower and he is breeding too.
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One of my Kildare's has a long pedicel, it's the one on the right in the picture, is this normal? I notice that in the book it looks similar, but not nearly as long. I love the green stripes on the outers Paddy.
Also, because I had the camera in my hand I couldn't go past this South Hayes without a picture, still one of my favourites ::)
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One of my Kildare's has a long pedicel, it's the one on the right in the picture, is this normal? I notice that in the book it looks similar, but not nearly as long. I love the green stripes on the outers Paddy.
Also, because I had the camera in my hand I couldn't go past this South Hayes without a picture, still one of my favourites ::)
Brian, the pedicel has become completely detached from the spathe, which is why it seems longer and danglier than the others. The other flowers still have their pedicels held upright partially within the spathes before they emerge. It happens sometimes, and then makes a cultivar look like it has a dangly pedicel when it normally doesn't.
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One of the 'cheaper section' - nevertheless for me a gem
Galanthus reginae-olgae ssp. vernalis of Montenegrin origin
Gerd
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This message is part of today’s report in the Thread Weekly Lisse
Flower Show:
There was a Dutch raised Galanthus which until now I did
not spot before (But I have not seen so many!)
I would like to know what specialists mean about it, so I place
the pictures in the Galanthus February Thread too.
Are there any look alikes??
Galanthus Green Brush 1
Galanthus Green Brush 2
BTW there are some other snowdrops in todays report too.
Another superb 'drop.
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Thanks Martin, I have a lot to learn :-\
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The greentipped Elwesii is from another bulbgrowing colleage that lives only 40 km from my place.
I have not found much yet but maybe next week in Scotland!
1 almost yellow nivalis Rheingold
1 nivalis with very small and light green leaves found in Germany, pictures will follow.
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Gerard, will you come to the SRGC Dunblane event when you are across for the Snowdrop Events??
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I am over next week to visit Ian Christie and we are going together for some snowdrophunting in the highlands.
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Excellent, I look forward to meeting you!
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Brian,
G. 'Kildare' will hardly ever set the world alight but it is a nice snowdrop nonetheless and, as I said, valued here because of its Irish connection.
I don't have 'South Hayes' yet but it is an absolute beauty and one I shall chase.
Paddy
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Paddy, give KILDARE some seasons. It`s really a beauty. I love it, because it`s an Irish or a snowdrop or both? I don`t know?!?!
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Hagen,
I'll be patient and watch its beauty increase year by year.
Paddy
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Here is a curious snowdrop I found recently. It's the inverse of a poculiform snowdrop in that it has three normal inner petals but the three outer petals closely resemble the inners in size, shape and markings. Unfortunately this makes for a small snowdrop that is unlikely to win prizes in a beauty contest. Is there a term for such a snowdrop? If not, I would like to coin one: "lucopiform". I know this is just juggling the letters in poculiform so it has no Latin meaning but there is a botanical precedent ("tepals" being derived from an anagram of petals).
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a few doubles I picked for the mantlepiece on a miserable wet day
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some pics from Benington Lordship today, I know a few visited before the Gala but the garden was still covered in the wrong sort of white stuff, looking nice today :)
snowdrop walk
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop10.jpg)
ditto
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop9.jpg)
House & Folly
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop12.jpg)
Moat
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop11.jpg)
a recent find, not sure I like it!
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop1.jpg)
Mighty Atom
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop3.jpg)
Bill Bishop
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop4.jpg)
Sybil Roberta
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop5.jpg)
Washfield Colesbourne
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop6.jpg)
Wasp
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop7.jpg)
Peardrop
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/drop8.jpg)
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Thanks Richard, we enjoyed the visit despite the snow! Do you know what that lovely little snowdrop is in the Rose Garden (with the face)?
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has been here longer than me :) so no, there are quite a few oddities in those beds, as far as I know no one bought any named varieties before I started in 92, most came from friends & family.
think I know the one you mean, looks like a paler version of Grumpy.
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Richard, the gardens have come out from the snow looking super.... thank you for sharing with us.
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Has anyone recorded any 'varieties' of Lady Beatrix Stanley? I will post a picture tomorrow if the light is OK - the inners have two small marks near the ovary in addition to the two tiny marks at the notch end.
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Richard,
Delighted to see the photographs of Benington Lordship, a wonderful display of snowdrops almost like snow on the ground.
Paddy
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a drop i found last year,any opinions :-\
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having looked it up you're right, is clearly not Sybil Roberta, was a swap from last year, more detective work...
will have a closer look at Bill Bishop in morning, only fully opened today in afternoon sun.
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I have 'Sybil Roberta' , given me by Evelyn Stevens who named it for her late Mother. I'll check it tomorrow.
I also have 'Backhouse Spectacles', which I learn from "the book " is described thus....
"If there is a lame duck in the bunch it is surely 'Backhouse Spectacles' which has to be simply one of the most undistinguished snowdrops in cultivation."
I'd have to agree with that... though I would tend to be more robust in my criticism..... the ruddy thing isn't flowering at all.... clumping up a treat..... not a flower in sight! >:(
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I have 'Mrs Backhouse's Spectacles' and spectacular it ain't. ::) I did have 'Sybil Roberta', but I think it has been swallowed by the wild grass by the hedge. I'll get some more off Evelyn on Saturday.
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Emma I am not renowned for liking weird and spikey snowdrops, so I find myself mildly surprised by being attracted to this one 8)
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Emma,
What a weird snowdrop, definitely an unusual one.
Rob,
Re comments on virus on G. 'Matt Bishop' as posted by Richard from Benington Lordship I think it is worth looking at the photographs of the mass plantings of snowdrops and see that the general population is in the rudest of good health. So, perhaps, the occasional touch of virus need not lead us into alarm.
Maggi,
G. 'Mrs.Backhouse Spectacles' is indeed totally indistinguishable.
Paddy
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Yes Rob, your 'Anglesey Abbey' is definitely wrong. As for 'Sybil Roberta' being an actual cultivar and not a synonym of 'Dionysus'? I suppose it's like anything. If it is not from the original named clone it must be something else, so why not name it?
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A friend's find. No, it is not a leucojum, but another one of our
unnamed Victoria elwesii.
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Thanks for the pictures Richard. I think displayed on the banks of a sunken walkway like that is the very best way to display snowdrops. Very much like the one at Anglesey Abbey. Benington Lordship is now on my list of places I want to visit.
Cheers
John
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A friend's find. No, it is not a leucojum, but another one of our
unnamed Victoria elwesii.
Wow, Diane. You are doing a very good job of making us jealous of all the wonderful snowdrops you have in Victorai/B.C. From what I can see of the picture this looks like a green-tipped poculiform, or are there (more) inner petals that we cannot see?
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I look forward to the days these elwesii selections cross the pond. Can you post a larger photo please. That small one is a bit of a tease
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Emma and Diane, your pics give power for this weekend without any drops here, only snow,snow,snow. Unusual plants. Our galanthusworld gets new horizons by you.
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OK, by request, I amended my previous post to add two larger
photos.
Yes, they are pocs. They balloon out more than other pocs I have
seen.
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Thanks Diane. The second photo makes it clearer. They remind me of the poculiform E.A.Bowles, which also has the nice balloon shape to the flowers. One bulb of E.A.Bowles sold for £150 (approximately $300 Cdn) at the Galanthus Gala last Saturday. So your friend might be sitting on a goldmine if she could find a way of bringing her snowdrops to the eager European market.
P.S. I'm tempted to suggest it should be called Galanthus elwesii "Missing Link" because it so resembles a leucojum.
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That's it Diane, I'm moving to Canada ;D
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Diane all I can say is WOWWWWWWW!
They are superb snowdrops............I don't recall there being a nuclear happening in BC to cause these wonderful mutations much like is thought to have caused the beautiful mutations in Japanese Hepatica.
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Diane, every new find you produce is better than the previous. That is absolutely stunning. Right, now how many eye teeth can I spare? ;D I might add that I think that it kicks 'A. E. Bowles' into touch!
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A friend's find. No, it is not a leucojum, but another one of our
unnamed Victoria elwesii.
Now Diane that is different, very interesting and beautiful.
As the founder of 'LeucoJocks' -an alternative to Galanthophiles - the aim of which is to find and name as many Leucojums as we can, I think we have some claims to your latest discovery. ;) ;) :o
What your posts do show us is that all we need to do is find a large open woodland plant a few different Galanthus species and wait 100 years or so for nature to take her course.
Thanks for sharing this superb site.
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Diane's galanthus pic's just show snowdrops have the potential to keep us philes in a state wanton desire for years to come!
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A friend's find. No, it is not a leucojum, but another one of our
unnamed Victoria elwesii.
Diane, your friend is exceptionally fortunate.... that green tipped poculiform is a thing of real beauty. 8)
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Goodness me, I think I'll emigrate! :o
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As the founder of 'LeucoJocks' -an alternative to Galanthophiles - the aim of which is to find and name as many Leucojums as we can, I think we have some claims to your latest discovery. ;) ;) :o
The English equivalent, the 'Leukojaks', never took off due to the need to shave ones head, suck lollipops and say 'who loves ya baby' as a form of greeting to fellow members. ;)
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Here is a weird elwesii first bloom from one of the pots I bought
at the grocery store last year.
The flower is complete, though wispy. Then there are all the extra
bits from the spathe.
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The truth is out there Diane. :o
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i am shocked some growers ignore virus like this
Rob,
whatever you saw in the photo (I agree it does look mottled) is not virus, it may just have been the light, the inner segment on that flower is very slightly distorted, I examined them closely this pm and there is absolutely nothing wrong with them.
same flower, another photo in the sequence, just different angle.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/bill.jpg)
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Rob,
Of course, virus-infected plants are not to be ignored. However, in populations such as Richard has shown, I think it unlikely that virus would do little more than minimal damage.
As Richard has shown, it was not a case of virus at all. I wonder how many plants are disgarded as being virus-infected when they are not infected at all. It is important to be careful with one's plants but there is no need to let worry about virus dominate our treatment of our plants.
I do agree with you that it is not acceptable for bulb suppliers to forward virus-infected plants. However, I imagine this is uncommon. Certainly, it has not been my experience.
Paddy
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do agree it's wise to be careful, but best not too paranoid either....
have seen very badly virus affected plants inc some today in a garden I visited this am, large clumps of plicatus that appeared to be seriously infected (probably the worst I've seen) but thriving, as were their non infected neighbours, the owner still enjoyed them & never crossed their mind to move/remove them.
not sure many would be happy to live with these ;)
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/plic.jpg)
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Diane
loving that green tipped poc'. - very nice indeed. I may have to move to Canada to live with Anne and Brian.
As to the strange spikey - a friend and I collected 3 different ones like that last year, from a monastery near his home (with permission from the monks of course and a donation to their funds). This year they are all just normal bog standard flowers with no extra spikey bits. >:(
Where as the 4 petal one we collected is 4 petal again this year. ;D
Regards
John
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had a perfect day today & gardens have been heaving with visitors, a few more pics from today....
a nice little nivalis that grows in one part of the moat and flowers slightly later
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/late.jpg)
Diggory
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/dig.jpg)
Curly
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/curly.jpg)
Little John
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/little.jpg)
Imbolc
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/imb.jpg)
a nice little clump found growing in a mass of elwesii
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/elw.jpg)
flower of above
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/elw2.jpg)
taken on way home, always looks lovely late afternoon in the sun!
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo250/richard41_2009/walk.jpg)
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I have some good news about the greentipped elwesii Green Brush, it could be for sale for the very first time after registration next year but only for collectors. And it will only be possible to grow in your garden but not for selling it again to others ( swapping no problem). The rights to sell will also be registrated.
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My snowdrops are coming to their peak now. Is this Lady Elphinstone please? I moved this clump last year but have lost the label..! Lady E has been yellow for me in the past.
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A few more
Ray Cobb
Unknown
Unknown
Lavinia
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Hi Ann
I`m not sure, that your drop is really LADY ELPHINSTONE, because it has outer tipps. I haven`t seen it on mine. LE often is not yellow, that is OK. Please look here:
http://www.engelmannii.de/bilder/galanthus/gefuellte/gefuellte.htm
Hagen
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my Lady Elphinstone doesn't have marks on outer tips either.
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Hello Ann,
I agree with Hagen on that, if it were Lady Elphinstone moving it may cause it to revert to green for a year before it beds in again.
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I have some good news about the greentipped elwesii Green Brush, it could be for sale for the very first time after registration next year but only for collectors. And it will only be possible to grow in your garden but not for selling it again to others ( swapping no problem). The rights to sell will also be registrated.
Hi Gerard
do you have a picture to remind us (and show any new members) all what it looks like?
Regards
John
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Forgot to tell that you can order the elwesii Green brush right now and it will be NOT "one" only
per client. I will put it all in a backorderlist and nobody will be dissapointed
regards and a nice weekend,
John i would like to use Luit's photo's but they are his, on page 23 of this topic
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John, Luit posted the photos of 'GreenBrush ' in the galanthus pages somewhere and in the Weekly Lisse Flower Show thread.... but here they are again......
click to enlarge the pix, of course.....
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Gerard, I will contact you, I would like to be able to buy this pretty snowdrop! (Don't tell anyone! ::))
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I won't :-X
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Excellent, you look like a man of discretion. :D
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They look pretty good to me!
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Hi Gerard,
you didn`t have 'Green Brush' at your gala,at least I didn`t see it?
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Thanks for the info on Lady E. I will just label it as unknown double! I've bought a few named varieties to find they were something else but I reckon everyone will have experienced that as some time or another!
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I have all sorts of swaps/buys that I compare with others and don't look right, but maybe theirs are wrong ;D
they all look nice, whatever the name.
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Rob
Wonderful shots of your snowdrops. :) Much better than I have managed.
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No Loes i did not but maybe next year! :)
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Last night I hastily printed out photos of the poculiform green tipped Leucojum lookalike that Diane posted the other day.... I wanted to be able to show it to some ofthe 'Drop Fiends who might not have seen it on the forum ( I know Wol has registered but they're having trouble seeing the pix apparantly)...... Rod Leeds and Wol and Sue Staines were blown away by it.... they were seriously impressed, I tell you .... there was mega enthusiasm for that snowdrop, Diane!!
I'll re-post the pix here, to save anyone scurrying back a couple of pages (to page 26 ) to see them.....this is a REALLY DIFFERENT SNOWDROP and I have to say it's the first one which has set my heart fluttering......
Diane, you and your friend are on to a winner here!!
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Last night I hastily printed out photos of the poculiform green tipped Leucojum lookalike that Diane posted the other day.... I wanted to be able to show it to some ofthe 'Drop Fiends who might not have seen it on the forum ( I know Wol has registered but they're having trouble seeing the pix apparantly)...... Rod Leeds and Wol and Sue Staines were blown away by it.... they were seriously impressed, I tell you .... there was mega enthusiasm for that snowdrop, Diane!!
I'll re-post the pix here, to save anyone scurrying back a couple of pages (to page 26 ) to see them.....this is a REALLY DIFFERENT SNOWDROP and I have to say it's the first one which has set my heart fluttering......
Diane, you and your friend are on to a winner here!!
I totally agree. I described it to Wol, before he realised I was talking about the one in your pics Maggi. I do hope it can be bulked up and given a worthy name. I, for one, will be joining the end of the queue should it become available to enthusiastic amateurs like me.
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Here is my 'different' Lady Beatrix stanley
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a drop i found last year,any opinions :-\
Emma
I seem to have missed this post - luckily Maggie has sent me back to page 26 and I spotted your post.
I love it. :D
John
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I have a potful of 'normal' Lady Beatrix Stanley', but this one was potted up separately - for no known reason - and had mutated. Inners are quite regular.
Hope it is stable and I will then chip :)
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Rob, not DIGGORY but a G. elwesii with slightly waved edges and puckered outers.
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That is certainly different Hagen!
Rob, G.Swanton in kentgardeners pictures is a Diggory cross I believe
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Hagen
very interesting. Can it ever lift it's outers in the warmth?
I ask the question because it has that look of a man who has done too much weight training at the gym, with steroids involved, and then can not put his arms in to a natural position! :-\
It is like the male pumped up version of Pat Mason to the extreme.
Kind regards
John
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G. Swanton in kentgardeners pictures is a Diggory cross I believe
I suspected that. I quite like the seersucker material look ;D
Hagen's is sturdy..... carved from thick royal icing .... nice!
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John, yes it can! It`s an g e e with a big and dark green basemark.
Maggi I`m happy because I visited Scotland!!! :D
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John, yes it can! It`s an g e e with a big and dark green basemark.
Maggi I`m happy because I visited Scotland!!! :D
Well, I knew that you would enjoy a visit here, Hagen... that was for SURE!! 8)
You must be tired to have made the journey here and home so fast, though? ::) You were not driving too fast, were you? ;)
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You have only single track roads every, 100m I had to wait, no fast no fast no fast. ;D
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You have only single track roads every, 100m I had to wait, no fast no fast no fast. ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Hagen may find this familiar? Galanthus nivalis 'Federkleid';D Sue and Wol Staines were really excited about this one!:o
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Anthony, Scotland isn`t so far like I thought. I know these drops in best hands. ;)
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Rob I`m not fortunate enough to own ROSEMARY BURNHAM. And I haven`t try it to buy by Snowdrop Company this year, because all say it is difficult to cultivate. I only like easy grown galanthus.
Next year I would cross THREE SHIPS with KREPPKUGEL
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Hagen i did some pollinating today with Trym, BigBoy,Wasfield Colesbourne, Godfrey Owen, Fred's Giant and Green Brush.
I had nothing else today and hope i do find a double greentipped BigBoy after 4 to 5 years.
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Hagen i did some pollinating today with Trym, BigBoy,Wasfield Colesbourne, Godfrey Owen, Fred's Giant and Green Brush.
I had nothing else today and hope i do find a double greentipped BigBoy after 4 to 5 years.
I've just been out pollinating in the dark with a torch, having been unable to be out in the garden (or visit any other gardens) during daylight hours this weekend.
Also brought in some seedlings that started flowering while I was away, and I'm convinced life is having a laugh at me sometimes - about six years ago I crossed a plicatus seedling with faint green marks on the outer tips with nivalis 'Virescens', hoping for good green marked outers. The first seedling is now flowering and has green lines .........on the insides of the outer petals, where you can't see them!!! (unless you turn the flower upside down). How wierd is that!!!
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The first seedling is now flowering and has green lines .........on the insides of the outer petals, where you can't see them!!! (unless you turn the flower upside down). How wierd is that!!!
You must have upset the flower when you upended it for pollination! ::) :o
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Hi there,
Pic here of Galanthus elwesii, a plant I inherited along with my house here in Bulgaria.
Elwesii is native and the surrounding woods to me at altitudes of 800m+ are rich with this species.
Nearly every house in my village has a patch of Galanthus elwesii, so I am guessing the garden form will be no different at all from the wild form! ;)
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Hi Hristo
thank you for showing your plant. It looks like a fairly standard Elwesii to me. :)
I am intrigued by the Elwesii naturalised in the Bulgarian woods. Have you ever spent time wandering and looking at them closely to see if any of them are a 'bit different'? I find I can spend hours and hours looking at naturalised nivalis in private woodlands in the UK. Very rarely I find something like a 4 petal form - last year I asked the landowners, a group of monks, if I could dig up some specimens.
If you have the time, and if you are allowed to dig them up in Bulgaria, it could be worth walking those woods and seeing if you can collect some different looking specimens for your garden? Please share the pictures with us if you do go wandering. :D
Best wishes
John
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I find I can spend hours and hours looking at naturalised nivalis in private woodlands in the UK. Very rarely I find something like a 4 petal form - last year I asked the landowners, a group of monks, if I could dig up some specimens.
If you have the time, and if you are allowed to dig them up in Bulgaria, it could be worth walking those woods and seeing if you can collect some different looking specimens for your garden?
Just to clarify John's comments, current opinion is that snowdrops are not native to the UK. Therefore, my understanding is that they are not covered by the UK legislation that prohibits people from digging up wild flowers, because they are not truly wild here. So if you do want to dig one up, all you need is the permission of the landowner.
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Hi John,
Yes should be standard I guess as the species is a Bulgarian native, not just naturalised.
We also have G.nivalis, the two species often flowering in the same woodland!
When the snows clear again I will be out there with the camera to photograph the early 'blub scape'.
The Galanthus flower for a long time and overlap with Scilla bifolia, this makes for quite a stunning display!
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Hi Hristo
if you look carefully you could find things such as:
-green tipped outers
-solid green inner mark (rather than the 2 separate marks)
-larger than normal flower
-long dangly pedicel
-2, 4, 5, or 6 petaled
-an ovary that is a different green
-long think ovary / short fat ovary / etc
I am not saying you will find anything different - but you could end up with an interesting collection of different forms in your garden.
I look forward to seeing some photographs once the snows have gone.
Best wishes
John
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Hi John,thanks for the advice, I will perhaps collect a mix of seed to see if anything interesting turns up when grown on.
Have posted up close up of other elwesii flower in the garden. :)
Have one that produces flowers twice the size of all the other plants!
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Hi all, we have had a great weekend looking at snowdrops with a bus load of friends from Holland i post two pictures of find from Sunday, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Ian your second photo is G. plicatus byzantinus
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Ian your second photo is G. plicatus byzantinus
Whilst the first, judging by the mark on the inner petals, is a nivalis (with 5 outer petals!). So perhaps thats two pictures of two finds?
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Rob has got me being paranoid about virus now. This is faint streaking on the Trymlet I bought at Loughborough. What's the verdict? If I bought the plant 'as seen' (like they say when buying a used car) do I have any claim on the nursery for a replacement?
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Hi Mark , yes i did think that but according to the books these are supposed to come from a different location to other G. plicatus I am sure these are hybrid seedlings like the next picture,.I also post anothe very samll 4inch high G. plicatus Little Emma a selection from the Castle group which was awarded a P.C at Dunblane on Saturday. ( Emma is my graddaughter) cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Which is which, Ian?
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Hi Mark, the first picture is a hybrid swarm the second is Little Emma. but just to copnfuse things here is another picture cheers Ian.
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Hi again, another two odd finds plus three pictures of our Dutch friends cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Here are a couple of mine now looking as though they are settled in my bulb bed. Galanthus 'Hippolyta' and G. nivalis 'Lady Elphinstone'. Does my Lady E look a little bit 'ragged' or this normal?
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I just spent a few hours editing the photos I took while away last weekend. To start you off I'm showing some really exciting hybrids between gracilis and 'Trym'. gracilis is the seed parent. Martin time to get you fiddling stick out! In this case honey bees have done the hard work
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and one more. I've forgotten if it's elwesii 'Mary Biddulph' or 'Margaret Biddulph'
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and one more. I've forgotten if it's elwesii 'Mary Biddulph' or 'Margaret Biddulph'
It's 'Margaret Biddulph'. And very nice it is too.
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some really exciting hybrids between gracilis and 'Trym'. gracilis is the seed parent. Martin time to get your fiddling stick out!
I have some 'Trym' hybrids in the pipeline, made using different pollen parents. Only two 'Trym' flowers to work with this year and already crossed those. I need to move and feed my 'Trym' to get them all back up to flowering size. I think making them set seed year after year can sap their energies a bit if the growing conditions aren't perfect, and on my very dry south-facing slope conditions can be far from ideal. :(
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I like the way the edges of the outer petals turn up on some of those gracilis X 'Trym' hybrids. I've seen the same effect on some of my elwesii X plicatus crosses.
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I like the way the edges of the outer petals turn up on some of those gracilis X 'Trym' hybrids. I've seen the same effect on some of my elwesii X plicatus crosses.
Hmm.... Rod Leeds showed us a plant (photo) at Dunblane which did that upturned edge thing rather prettily...... can't for the life of me remember which it was. :-[ Just a little edge all the way round the petal.... 8)
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some really exciting hybrids between gracilis and 'Trym'. gracilis is the seed parent. Martin time to get your fiddling stick out!
I have some 'Trym' hybrids in the pipeline, made using different pollen parents. Only two 'Trym' flowers to work with this year and already crossed those. I need to move and feed my 'Trym' to get them all back up to flowering size. I think making them set seed year after year can sap their energies a bit if the growing conditions aren't perfect, and on my very dry south-facing slope conditions can be far from ideal. :(
My 'Trym' is on the north side of a rockery and the bulb bases never receive the sun. Needless to say, they are still in tight bud. Last year I planted some very healthy seeds from my 'South Hayes'. It arrived with a lovely seed pod, so no idea with what it was pollinated, or whether the seeds are viable?
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Here are a couple of mine now looking as though they are settled in my bulb bed. Galanthus 'Hippolyta' and G. nivalis 'Lady Elphinstone'. Does my Lady E look a little bit 'ragged' or this normal?
David
Lady E looks superb - great colour :) Do not think mine will be as good this year - she is still settling in
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I really like Trym but I am a little concerned that there will soon be an infinite number of Trym-alikes. Anyway, bags-I the name "Trympoline" for the bouncy one I have yet to breed.
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I agree with you Alan. G. 'Trym' was the next best thing to sliced bread when it came out. Then we had G. 'Trymlet' and now it seems another rash of lookalikes. I'm afraid none of those shown by Mark have the impact of the original 'Trym'. I suppose it's a case that we have seen this type and these are simply slight variations on a theme. Nice snowdrops now, mind you, but surely we don't have to watch another range of ever so slightly different snowdrops with exorbitant price tags.
Paddy
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There is now 'Trimmer' shown already on the forum, 'Antrym' and 'Trimmest'Trymest'
I saw more 'Big Boy's in one place than all my years looking at snowdrops
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Anyway, bags-I the name "Trympoline" for the bouncy one I have yet to breed.
;D ;D ;D
I agree there are a lot of Trymlings about, I imagine the excitement of first seeing it was somewhat similar to how we felt when we saw Galanthus Chadwick's Cream on Saturday. :o
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I have 'Sybil Roberta' , given me by Evelyn Stevens who named it for her late Mother. I'll check it tomorrow.
This is from a few pages back ( page 26).... I got sidetracked somewhat, but I'm back on the case!!
For info, there are more details in tis page from last year about Sybil Roberta, Eveyln's other named doubles and the greatorex doubles.. ....http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1498.msg36369;topicseen#msg36369
Here are pix of our Sybil Roberta.....
click to enlarge....
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That's a very nice tidy double.
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Dionysus is supposed to be the same but yours has a larger inner mark
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Hello All. I haven't had five to do any posting for a while, but new computer and little one in nursery for a few hours in the week should give me some time! I have enjoyed reading all the Galanthus threads, and some superb photos too!
A few that have been flowering for me in the past few weeks,
Cowhouse Green, David Shackleton,Diggory and Sandersii Group.
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Hello, Jane....thought we hadn't "seen" you for a while!
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I thought Alan might like a few yellows from the garden at Chedworth last weekend :D
And also the superior version of grass down the middle of the road, Aconites :D
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I know that drive!
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I know that drive!
I don't, and it must be just a few miles from me if it's the Chedworth near Cirencester.
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Love the eranthis Jo a beautiful weed there which doesn't much like my soil here
Here is a much maligned snowdrop G plicatus Augustus a fine plant with me if divided every three years. Diggory seems to have the same puckered petals
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It's a good one, Ian. I hadn't realised how puckered the outer petals were. You have captured it well in the sunlight. I have an Irish cultivar in flower at the moment, G. 'Woodtown' - I think I posted a photograph a few days ago - and it has puckering also but not to the same degree as your G. 'Augustus' shows.
Following Jo's lead of posting snowdrops of one kind - all yellows in her case - here are some with green on the outer segments.
Paddy
G. 'Bradwell'
G. 'Cedric's Prolific'
G. 'Elfin'
G. elwesii 'Hughes Emerald'
G. 'Federkleid'
G. ikariae 'Emerald Isle'
G. 'Kildare'
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A few more green tips. Paddy
G. 'Modern Art'
G. 'Sharlockii'
G. 'Streifenweh'
G. 'Trym'
G. 'Trymlet'
G. viridipice
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Some crackers there Paddy. Not seen 'Emerald Isle' before, but it is rather special. 8)
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Anthony,
G. ikariae 'Emerald Isle' is very special to me as it is of Irish origin and came to me from its original location. Mary got one bulb in March 2002 and we have five flowers at the moment. Then again, in its original location it grows along the base of a field ditch with complete abandon, rude good health etc while many people complain they find it a very fickle grower in the garden.
In light of recent discussion on G. 'Trym' and its seedlings it is worth looking at G. 'Trym' and G. 'Trymlet'. Is there really any significant difference?
Paddy
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I think I prefer 'Trymlet' Paddy as the flowers are, to my mind, more shapely? I thought Wol might have one at the EBD but he had 'David Baker' instead? G. ikariae ikariae seems to do well with me, but I'm always swapping, so I think I must let them be for a year or too to build up a small clump.
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Anthony,
I got a bulb of G. 'David Baker' from Wol when he was in Cork about a month ago and I was delighted to get it as I had admired it for several years and had looked forward to having it in the garden. It's a good tall snowdrop, holds itself well and I think will make a good plant in a clump in time.
Paddy
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I know that drive!
I don't, and it must be just a few miles from me if it's the Chedworth near Cirencester.
It's John Sales drive at Covertside, a really lovely show.
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It's John Sales drive at Covertside, a really lovely show.
Right, that makes sense. I didn't know the name of his house and haven't been there. I really must get out more!
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Paddy nice show. Was it intentional to show all drops with green bits - a very good collection 8)
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Anthony,
I got a bulb of G. 'David Baker' from Wol when he was in Cork about a month ago and I was delighted to get it as I had admired it for several years and had looked forward to having it in the garden. It's a good tall snowdrop, holds itself well and I think will make a good plant in a clump in time.
Paddy
I must admit I bought one too. Must leave some for next year. ;D Nice to see the two Bavarian 'drops doing well for you too.
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Ian, Yes, a selection with green tips.
Anthony, the Bavarians seem to like it here and are doing well. They are nicely marked, aren't they?
Paddy
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Anthony,
I meant to add that G. ikariae ikariae grows well here also.
Paddy
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Thanks for the green tipped pictures Paddy.
I think my favourite must be 'Federkleid' - I am guessing that is not of Irish origin!? ::) (Spring Dress - well named).
One to add to my search list.
Cheers
John
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Here's something you rarely see. Almost a three-headed snowdrop (growing in my garden).
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Alan,
You really will have to take the snowdrops off that steroid feed. The side-effects are becoming alarming!
John, G. 'Federkleid' and 'Streifen-Weh' are both of German origin, Bavarian and Bohemian. This has been their first time flowering with me and they seem to be good plants, growing well and nicely marked.
Paddy
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Margaret Owen has a three headed snowdrop - photo later
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Alan,
You really will have to take the snowdrops off that steroid feed. The side-effects are becoming alarming!
John, G. 'Fererkleid' and 'Streifen-Weh' are both of German origin, Bavarian and Bohemian. This has been their first time flowering with me and they seem to be good plants, growing well and nicely marked.
Paddy
Bohemia is (a very large) part of the Czech Republic. Admittedly a lot of Germans lived there prior to the Second World War, but definitely Czech Rep. not Germany.
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Martin,
My geography is obviously very suspect - as was reported once written on a child's school report under 'Geography': "This boy does well to find his way home."
Paddy
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Unless, of course, you mean that both snowdrops were found and named by a German collector and came to you from Germany, Paddy, in which case ignore my comment (although I suppose it must be a little ambiguous for me to take it the way I did).
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Martin,
My geography is obviously very suspect - as was reported once written on a child's school report under 'Geography': "This boy does well to find his way home."
Paddy
;D
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Unless, of course, you mean that both snowdrops were found and named by a German collector and came to you from Germany, Paddy, in which case ignore my comment (although I suppose it must be a little ambiguous for me to take it the way I did).
Sorry, Folks,
Perhaps I have added to the confusion by referring to the two "German" 'drops..... I just thought that there were two German names and I believed they had come via Germany...... and, as is well known, MY geography is SO bad that I don't get out much at all ::)
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Just a quick pic of a snowdrop I lifted from one of my seedling beds yesterday. It's a cross made a few years ago between a plicatus seedling which had some light green lines on the tips and nivalis 'Virescens' (as the pollen parent).
I was hoping to get some virescent seedlings but so far no luck, just this plicatus X nivalis hybrid with a quite nice dark inner mark and green lines on the outer tips. I'd have thought the virescent genes from 'Virescens' might have more impact in the progeny, but apparently that's not a given. This was one of just three surviving seedlings, so hopefully some of my other plicatus X 'Virescens' crosses made in later years and yet to flower may be more successful.
It's still, I think, a nice snowdrop, tall with a strong flower stem and quite a large flower for the first year flowering (flowers of seedlings often get bigger in subsequent years). I'll certainly be chipping it.
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It's a nice arrangement of the markings on the outer segments.
Paddy
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It's a nice arrangement of the markings on the outer segments.
Paddy
I'm hoping they might get stronger as the bulb matures. It's amazing how much a snowdrop seedling can improve from its first flowering. I've planted out middling-looking seedlings in corners of the garden only to find them again years later looking stunning when settled in and clumped up.
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That is a clean, sturdy looking 'drop, Martin, nice one. :D
What a nice surprise.... we've just had a phonecall from a friendly continental galanthophile, across visiting Scotland ....how pleasant to be able to put a voice to the name and face...... Gerard and his wife are visiting President Ian 8)
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This is the tiniest little snowdrop. I have taken the photograph with my thumb and index finger holding the flower so as to give scale to the flower. As you can see it is only as big as my thumbnail.
G. 'Tinkelbell'
Paddy
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Hi all ,I post some pictures of a fairly large G. plicatus found recently it is beside G. Walrus and an ordinary G. nivalis, cheers Ian the Christie. kind
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I have this tiny nivalis in a clump of similar sized blooms in flower now.
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I love your green tipped seedling Martin, lets hope it makes a good garden plant and we all get a chance to grow it in the future :)
Its funny how lots of the little, tiny snowdrops flower later. Quite good from a garden design point of view. As the big early elwesii's and plicatus hybrids go over the little nivalis types, planted in front, draw the gaze away from the snowdrops that are going over :'(
Here are a few of those weird and wonderful types that might distract the eye from fading beauties.
G 'Doncasters Double Charmer', G 'Boyd's Double', G 'Mrs Tiggywinkle' and G 'Luke'
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On Wednesday we went to lunch with a friend in North Norfolk, poor long suffering David took these pictures - things which caught a non-galanthophile's eye!
There are a number of raised beds and new beds since we last visited in the spring! Of course these are primarily to hold her collection. So here are some photos from Old Hall Farm beginning with one of the spring beds. In it was a lovely gracilis selection which was shining out and has been named Twilight, near to it was Swanton which has been remarked on before. She was very fortunate in knowing the owners of the fabled Rectory at Warham where some lovely snowdrops have been found and here is a plicatus she was allowed to take away. Magnus was in good shape as was Lady Beatrix Stanley and Blonde Inge, and, just because I didn't get Ecusson d'Or again this year, I'll have to make do with the photo. The dogs joined us outside after lunch and wondered what we were all doing no doubt! I hope you enjoy your visit next week Steve.
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Hi to all, we have indeed our friends from the Netherlands staying with us Gerard Oud and his wife we have had a snowdrop extraveganza so here is Gerard admiring some flowers with a close up. cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Wonderful to see those drifts Ian, thanks for posting.
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I have been to the Netherlands many times during January / February time - brrrrr.... I hope Gerard is enjoying your warm Scottish weather. 8)
Cheers
John
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Yesterday was perhaps the best day out 'dropping we have had, even David enjoyed it. We travelled a nice round 100 miles to see Cliff and Joan Curtis. It was certainly well worth the journey, thanks to both Cliff and Joan for their kind hospitality. I saw some wonderful snowdrops from the smallest nivalis with a greenish inner to Squire Burroughs and other large flowered forms, and many that I was seeing for the first time which was a real treat. There were some great virescent flowers and some really nice troughs and most especially hellebores. We spent a good two hours admiring the snowdrops and I am only sorry that the official photographer could not take more pictures, unfortunately there was a cold wind causing havoc with the photography, and I was much too busy talking to try to take any photos. We came away with a few pots ::) and some lovely mental images. Here are some general views of a couple of Cliff's well planned and very full beds, and just two snowdrops - good old Dionysus and Galanthus ikariae 'Chandler's Green Tipped'.
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Whoops, apologies to both Cliff and Jane-Anne, the Hellebores at the end of the pictures of Cliff's garden were actually in Jane-Anne's. :-\
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I've been once to their garden on a very cold snowy day and really would love to go back. Weather fascinates me these days. You were cold yesterday while we had between 10 and 12C throughout the day.
Today was 11C and lovely to walk with 14 others in Bob Gordon's garden here in N Ireland. I was very excited to see a very special snowdrop but equally saddened at the same time to see it is virused and afflicted with Stag. I took 450 photos and now I have sit for hours to go through them all, edit the best and name them. It was a bit breezy so many may be out of focus
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We are having fantastic weather here in Scotland and have seen a awfull lot beautiful different snowdrops. I cant say more about it because i promised that to Ian. We are very happy to be one of the Scottish Rockers at Ian and Anne's home.
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Nice to see you enjoying Ian's Scottish hospitality Gerard. You are not far off being halfway between me and Ian and Maggi.
Been trying to Google Galanthus alpinus bortkewitschianus flowers, but only distant shots. I have one coming out. Anyone else grow it?
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This is the snowdrop I found. It's a plicatus x nivalis. It may not be stunning but it's a fast multiplier. This group have multiplied from about 5 bulbs to this in 5 or 6 years
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Here's a photo for you Anthony
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Hmm..... that fellow in Mark's photo of Galanthus alpinus bortkewitschianus has a very thin moustache...... I wouldn't trust him, look like a gigolo :-\
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Here's a photo for you Anthony
Thanks Mark. I sneaked a look under the petals at that's like mine, but not like the description in the book. :-\
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I'm interested to see Jo's 'Doncasters Double Charmer'. I was reading The Book today, and I reckon my spiky thing, pictured earlier, is probably the immature phase of it. If so hopefully it should look normal (!) next year.
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Here are some today:
'Hans Guck in die Luft';
'Angelique';
'Baylham';
'Modern Art';
'Dreycot Greentip';
'Brian Spence'
X Alleni;
'Ginn's Imperati'
Viridapicis with lagodechianus (back left) and rizehensis;
'Trym'
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Good posting, Anthony, a selection of very nice snowdrops, all doing very well and looking very well.
Paddy
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Good to see fresh snowdrops. Mine are fading too fast but here's a few still looking fresh
'Anne of Geirstein' with petals that cant be forced open using the snowdrop squeeze.
elwesii 'Green Comet'
elwesii 'Lord Monostictus' - a name that has now been dropped - a good post main season snowdrop
elwesii 'Sir Edward Elgar'
Mighty Atom Group 'Dodo Norton'
nivalis 'Mini Me' - 8cm
nivalis 'Tiny Tim' - the tallest in 10cm
'The Linns'
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A great selection of nice snowdrops. G. 'Dodo Norton' has a lovely puckering on the outer petals as well as a good overall shape.
Paddy
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Last snowdrop for now. I still have to catch up from last weekend. Here are some goodies from the Margaret Owen MS day
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Mark - Do squish that aphid on your Mini Me.
Lovely photos.
We had the pleasure to meet a few forumists - John Finch, Alanb, Jo, Joe Sharman and saw Steve Owen at the CGS event but he bolted after the last talk.
Saw many wonderful displays & gardens...
Avon Bulbs Display booth at the Show
Foxgrove Display
Primrose Hiil garden
Cerney House
John Sales Covertside garden nr Chedworth
Have returned with a profound respect for Straffan, Sam Arnott and Galatea.
johnw
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A few more.
John Grimshaw's garden
Colesbourne
johnw
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John,
Some fabulous displays and plantings there, wonderful!
In the Primrose Hill photograph, it is the large clump of bergenia which catches my eye. I am nearly sure it is a cultivar called, B. 'Ballawley' after the garden in Dublin where it originated. It makes a wonderful winter display with a tremendous purple colour enhanced by frosty weather.
Paddy
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It's been so long since I was at Primrose Hill I didnt recognise the garden
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and saw Steve Owen at the CGS event but he bolted after the last talk.
johnw
I'm obviously going to seed. Seriously, if only I'd known I would have stopped to sign a few autographs. But I had to meet a lady in the car park.
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Nice plants Anthony here is one I acquired last year will be nice if I can get it to clump up
G krasnovii
and G viradapice if it wasn't so easy I suppose it would be one of the most sought after ::)
and Percy Picton along lasting and elegant plant
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I got some nice pollen from Phil Cornish's collection today. Anyone want to see photos? ;D
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Martin when will we see photos of your snowdrops?
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Nice plants Anthony here is one I acquired last year will be nice if I can get it to clump up
G krasnovii
and G viradapice if it wasn't so easy I suppose it would be one of the most sought after ::)
and Percy Picton along lasting and elegant plant
I really like Galanthus krasnovii. Mine is still in bud.
Does anyone have any G. alpinus alpinus? It is the missing link in my polyploidy Higher Biology lesson. There is not enough biology actually brought into classrooms. It's alright making DNA out of wire, pasta, pipe cleaner and chocolate hoops, but give me a living example everytime. Anyone tried colchicine on twin scales of bortkewitschianus to try and make a fertile hexaploid?
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Martin when will we see photos of your snowdrops?
Just haven't had the time for photos this year. So damn busy with work. When I do find time to get outside, it's always the pollinations that demand my immediate attention. So much of the season my snowdrops were frozen in the ground or under snow that I've only had the second half of February to do all the crosses I wanted to do.
Plus Ivi keeps taking the camera to work so when I do think 'I'll take a pic of that' - no b****y camera! >:(
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John,
Some fabulous displays and plantings there, wonderful!
In the Primrose Hill photograph, it is the large clump of bergenia which catches my eye. I am nearly sure it is a cultivar called, B. 'Ballawley' after the garden in Dublin where it originated. It makes a wonderful winter display with a tremendous purple colour enhanced by frosty weather.
Paddy
Thanks Paddy, Ken thought it might be Bergenia purpurascens but the leaves were a bit large for it.
Here's a close-up he took.
Also from Primrose Hill - a nice clump of Ruby Baker (who we were introduced to at the London Show) and a fine big clump of Lutescens.
New to me was Cicely Hall Improved , I have a shot but have to figure out which it is.
johnw
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Paddy - Another plant at Primrose Hill was this stunning variegated Prunus laurocerasus. Do you know if it is a variety in commerce? I forgot to ask Robin Hall about it.
johnw
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John, As you would look to "Dirr", I have had a look through "Hilliers" and find the following: "Prunus laurocerasus 'Castlewellan' syn 'Marbled White' :A slow growing dense bush eventually of large size. Leaves green and grey-green, marbled throughout with white. Originally grown as 'Variegata'. From c 1811. Award of Merit 1986"
Castlewellan is a garden in Northern Ireland. My own comment: while it might catch the eye, I could not abide it in my own garden.
Paddy
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John, As you would look to "Dirr", I have had a look through "Hilliers" and find the following: "Prunus laurocerasus 'Castlewellan' syn 'Marbled White' :A slow growing dense bush eventually of large size. Leaves green and grey-green, marbled throughout with white. Originally grown as 'Varietata'. From c 1811. Award of Merit 1986"
Castlewellan is a garden in Northern Ireland. My own comment: while it might catch the eye, I could not abide it in my own garden.
Paddy
Paddy - Afraid I am still using the 1973 Hilliers'. He describes 'Variegata' as "a rather curious yet conspicuous plant". It certainly brightened a dark corner at Primrose Hill.
Dirr says - 'Castewellan' - see 'Marbled White' but there is no reference for 'Marbled White' other than under 'Marbled Dragon', of which he says "Marbled White may not be the same plant".
johnw
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