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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Hans A. on January 09, 2009, 05:10:26 PM
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New year, new topic ;)
The first Junos are flowering in my garden - from west to east:
Iris planifolia (Spain)
Iris palaestina (Israel)
Iris fosteriana (Iran)
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8) Hans the I. fosteriana almost looks like You just added some small dark petals from an other iris to it :o. Very nice plants all of them well done. 8)
Hope to see more :)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hans,
what beauties, 3x wow 8) 8) 8)
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They're beautiful, so nice to see such lovely flowers , here all I see is white when I look outside.
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Gorgeous Junos Hans.
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Bravo! Hans! :o :o
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For sure Bravo hans, It smells spring !!! ;D
Here, minus 8°C ....
still have to wait first flowers ???
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Hans I hope you are doing some pollinating of those beauties.
Pat T
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Truly wonderful Hans !
I love them all with I. fosteriana as my favourite :)
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Congratulations Hans ,
3 rare and difficult Junos in wonderful health -beautyful photos !
I can never keep I.fosteriana ,but the sight of a hillside in Iran in early march in 1971
covered in hundreds and hundreds of I. fosteriana in bloom will always stay in my
memory.
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Thanks for all the nice comments - also for me they are like a hint of spring.
This are all plants which I received from good friends and make them very special for me.
Otto it must be breathtaking to see a large population of Iris fosteriana - I received a single seedling some years ago and this is its first flower - and Pat, certainly I tried to pollinate all of them - let`s see... :)
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It is hard , from the viewpoint of winter in Aberdeen, to comprehend that Hans has these flowers at this time, especially when he has just been making trips even in Mallorca to the snow covered mountains, ...... what mysterious puzzles nature lays out for us!
For the mountains in snow, see here : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2610.msg68737#msg68737
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Fantastic Hans 8) 8)
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It is hard , from the viewpoint of winter in Aberdeen, to comprehend that Hans has these flowers at this time, especially when he has just been making trips even in Mallorca to the snow covered mountains, ...... what mysterious puzzles nature lays out for us!
For the mountains in snow, see here : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2610.msg68737#msg68737
But look at the blue sky behind the snowy mountains 8)
- you might say there's a clue ;)
Superb junos Hans
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What a privileged Otto!
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Hans, that is a beautiful collection!!!
It seems I . fosteriana is about to set many seeds... ;)
I am adding another Juno, Iris regis-uzziae
It is in bloom in Jan-Feb in the Negev desert and Jordan.
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I am adding another Juno, Iris regis-uzziae
Oh, my word.... what a flower. Exquisite!
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Oron,
superb! 8)
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awesome :o ! as if it were made of wax !
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Dear Juno lovers,
gratulations for your superb plants and picts !!!!
I`m very sad about the condition of my new Junos, some of them show sign of virus infection.I have bought them from a famous British nursery, and after pollination I should destroy the plants in summer.
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Dear Juno lovers,
gratulations for your superb plants and picts !!!!
I`m very sad about the condition of my new Junos, some of them show sign of virus infection.I have bought them from a famous British nursery, and after pollination I should destroy the plants in summer.
Hi Gerhard, I do feel that you should bring the attention of whoever supplied you with your plants to their virus condition, and indeed if they are virused then you should receive a refund of the money you paid for them. If you feel that your English is not good enough to go through that process then I would be willing to help you in any way I can (for example, writing letters on your behalf) I think that the supplier would need to see photographic evidence of the problem as it is likely that he will have purchased plants wholesale and indeed may wish to make a claim against his supplier). If you need any help do please contact me by PM.
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WOW Oron! :o
This is one of my favorites! Great pictures of a great species! I sow about 5 seeds of it 2 years ago - till now no germination. As I know it is hardly growable - just as my second favorite - Iris edomensis ::) 8)
Oron, I am sure I.fosteriana will get a lot of seeds... ;) ;D
Gerhard - I am sorry to hear this - hope your plants still will flower to get seeds - the few virused Junos I had did not bloom anymore - on the other hand I have been told many comercial Iris bucharica are virused but flower freely. :-\
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Oron,
I. regis-uzziae is breathtakenly beautyful -every Forumist thinks so -makes me want to
kneel in front of it. Is there also a pale yellow form of it ?
Hans , I too sowed seeds of this species 2 years ago[ from Tony Hall], but so far no
germination, but lucky Lesley Cox in New Zealand , has germinated one only , hopefully she manages to grow it on to flowering stage .
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Thanks all,
Otto,
There are pale or darker individuals but not a pale yellow.
The true to type is the one you see in the photo attached, however there is a small population in the north of the Negev desert where it seems that I. regis-uzziae meets I. palaestina and probably there are some hybrids.
The true regis has also a typical white strip at the edge of the leaf.
Regarding germination, I think seeds should be kept hot and dry all summer, just this season I have noticed it again, i had seeds of I. palaestina kept in my refrig all summer and some seeds i have collected 6 weeks ago in the field.
The seeds collocated in the field have germinated in only 15 days while for the other there isn't any sign yet and they will probably germinate next year.
In the case of I. regis-uzziae and I edomensis which are growing in areas where ground temperature is above 40c during summer for sure some "backing" would help.
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Gerhard - I am sorry to hear this - hope your plants still will flower to get seeds - the few virused Junos I had did not bloom anymore - on the other hand I have been told many comercial Iris bucharica are virused but flower freely. :-\
When I was looking at Iris planifolia some years ago in the Sierra de Cazorla in one area amongst thousands of plants it was clear that many were badly virused but they were flowering and setting seed quite normally
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I've also sown I. regis uzziae this autumn and 1 seed germinated in 2 weeks, it's the only one for the moment !
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Oron we will certainly be having more than 40C ground temperatures today with a 41C forecast.
Beautiful bulbs in their natural habitat.
Pat
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Oron,
I asked if there was a pale yellow form of I. regis-uzziae , as there is a colour photo of
it in :A guide to Species Irises , by the Species Group of the British Iris Soc. ,1997 .
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An other Beauty opened a flower - Iris persica.
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Wow :o
What amazing Junos, Hans!!!
It really makes me happy to see all of those beautiful Irises :D
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what a darker form! :o
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Truly stunning Hans !!! :o
Wonderful flower !
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Hans, that is a beautiful collection!!!
It seems I . fosteriana is about to set many seeds... ;)
I am adding another Juno, Iris regis-uzziae
It is in bloom in Jan-Feb in the Negev desert and Jordan.
Oron,
what is the small Tulip in the background ???
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I am adding another Juno, Iris regis-uzziae
It is in bloom in Jan-Feb in the Negev desert and Jordan.
Oron,
what is the small Tulip in the background ???
I went back and had to look closely.........
yes, indeed, there is a tulip in each of the photos of I. regis-uzziae.....
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....with prostrate wavy leaves....
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I am adding another Juno, Iris regis-uzziae
It is in bloom in Jan-Feb in the Negev desert and Jordan.
Oron,
what is the small Tulip in the background ???
I went back and had to look closely.........
yes, indeed, there is a tulip in each of the photos of I. regis-uzziae.....
(Attachment Link)
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....with prostrate wavy leaves....
That is Tulipa biflora, a rare species is Israel, grows only in a relatively small area in the mountains above 900m in the Negev desert. [Syn. T. polychroma].
Hans, again... a stunning Juno...
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Thanks, glad to see you enjoy the pics :D
@Oron - did not know Tulipa biflora could produce this kind of leaves :o
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@Oron - did not know Tulipa biflora could produce this kind of leaves :o
In the desert it often has these curly silvery leaves.
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Thanks - so should be nothing but easy to distinguish between this one and Tulipa systola when they have no flowers...
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Thanks - so should be nothing but easy to distinguish between this one and Tulipa systola when they have no flowers...
Well..... :-\
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;D
To come back to Junos - I discovered this flower of Iris stenophylla ssp. allisonii some minutes ago when I arrived home. :D
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What a stunning flower Hans.
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You really have no mercy on us simple mortals Hans... ;)
Another stunner !
Thanks for showing !
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Hans that ssp allinsonii what a lovely plant, brought back memories from when I went to see it in the wild. I stopped at the site which had a large flock of sheep nearby and the shepherd threw large rocks at me. I think he was bored and having a bad day! He missed me but did not improve my cars paintwork.
Here is one I am calling Iris persica that I grew
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Wonderful flower Tony.
You're using the past tense... did you loose it ??
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Luc the answer is yes. I have given up, they flower and then get botrytis down into the bulb. I have used every method known to stop it happening but the atmosphere here when they flower is just to cold and humid.
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Too bad Tony... :'( I saw J.R. lists it for 2009 and was considering to buy me one.... he does write it's not an easy one though...
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Thanks Tony for the picture of this wonderful plant - it is a pitty this type of plants (and especially this species) are so capricious :-\
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Too bad Tony... :'( I saw J.R. lists it for 2009 and was considering to buy me one.... he does write it's not an easy one though...
'JR' ??
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The one and only Janis Ruksans David, not the one from Dallas... he's not into bulbs anyway... ;D
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Of course it is, don't mind me Luc, the old brain is getting frazzled ;D
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Here is one I am calling Iris persica that I grew
What a wonderful plant. The dark background makes it look stunning. 8)
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This is what i saw today on the main road from Haifa to Tel-Aviv,
there are thousands of Iris palaestina on both sides of the road, it will last for about two more weeks.
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Oh, my goodness! How beautiful! And in January, too. :o
In case anyone is coming "new" to these pages... a reminder to click on the little pictures to bring up a larger version.
Oron, many thanks for inlcuding us on your trip today! 8)
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Maggi, it is my pleasure, and it wasn't even a trip, only on my way to work ;)
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Maggi, it is my pleasure, and it wasn't even a trip, only on my way to work ;)
Ha, Ha! :D Well, in the UK we do talk about "the trip to work this morning"... so it can still apply! It was a really good trip for me, that's for sure!
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I wish I had a similar way to work... fantastic sight! :D ;D
Here a smaller species, a pale form of Iris persica started to flower.
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Ororn, what are the large leaves in your pix, please? .... I know I should know them..... :-[
Hans, what a lovely pale colour to your Iris persica .... so elegant and restrained.
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Thanks Maggi - the leaves look like Urginea maritima?
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Thanks Maggi - the leaves look like Urginea maritima?
Aha! Yes, Hans, I rather think that is so... 8)
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Oron,
phantastic roadside view - what a combination Iris palaestina with little red Tulipa x?? :o
Hans,
lovely I. persica. Wunderbar! :D
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Oron,
phantastic roadside view - what a combination Iris palaestina with little red Tulipa x?? :o
Not tulips but Anemones, Armin 8)
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Uups - looks I'm getting older ::) ;D
Thanks Maggi
I should have noticed it looking at the foliage...but nevertheless a wonderful display!
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Maggi thanks for the explanation, I thought trip is used only when you are off work and really enjoy your time.... ;)
The large leaves are Urginea maritima and Anemone coronaria although there are many tulips too [Tulipa agenensis] in that area but they will flower in March.
Hans, great color of I. persica, seems to be taken from an Art Nouveau drawing...
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Thanks for mentioning the Anemone, Oron, I was about to ask if that is what the red flowers are. Is this the same spectacular red Anemone that we would have seen in Cyprus?
The iris appear to be very short alongside the Urginea. Is it a short plant? It is quite beautiful.
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David,
It is the same Anemone that grows on Cyprus, there are also pink, white and purple forms.
The Iris is about 10-20 cm in height.
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although there are many tulips too [Tulipa agenensis] in that area but they will flower in March.
Oh, so that is something for us to look forward to... we must hope your work takes you back along this road in March!
seems to be taken from an Art Nouveau drawing...
....yes, I know exactly what you mean by that!
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Thanks Oron for showing us these photos!
Here is a closer look at the Anemone coronaria (taken yesterday).
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Miriam,
thank you for the closer picture of the A.coronaria.
They are lovely.
Oron,
I'm looking forward seeing Tulipa agenensis in this habitat. ;) :D
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This is what i saw today on the main road from Haifa to Tel-Aviv,
there are thousands of Iris palaestina on both sides of the road, it will last for about two more weeks.
Oron, I wish I did not find these pictures so late this evening.
aah these red Anemone wit the Iris palaestina in such masses. I hope I can sleep tonight.. ;D ;D 8)
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Oron,
What an awesome sight :o - I'm afraid my trip to work is a little less attractive... :-\
Thanks for showing !!
Hans,
Another one of your numerous gems you're showing us here !!!
Very subtle colours !
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Oron,
what a joy to see a field of Anemone coronaria in bloom , my first flower I can remember vividly at the rather early age of about 3 years , probably not very far away
from where you took your photo -thank you so much for that pleasure ! and the thousands of Iris palaestina in flower = too much and rich a diet to digest in one go.
Hans ,
your exquisite pale I. persica ,like faded parchment ,or maybe antique lace , I can't
do better than echo Maggi : so elegant and restraint , if only this species would be more amenable to cultivation. This species certainly belongs to my half a dozen ,or should that be 8 , most beautyful Junos , which also includes I. galatica , regis-uzziae.
rosenbachiana in its colour forms , stenophylla and ssp. allisonii , fosteriana , narbutii,
and warleyensis in its best colour form, and then a few more species come to mind,...
Otto.
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Thanks all for your kind comments, I do not want adorn myself with borrowed plumes - many of those wonderful plants I received from a very good friend over the last years who grew them from seeds, I just try to keep and if possible propagate them.
Otto, hope I will be able to show some more of your favorites. :)
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Later than last year Iris planifolia f. alba has come in flower. Much larger (and easier) species than Iris persica but not less beautiful.
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Very nice Hans ! Sooooo pristine white !! 8)
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This is SOME THREAD at the moment ... tremendous images folks.
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Yes it's brilliant to see them. What are the big leaves?
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::) - Mark if you should refer on the last pic ??? - there are (except for some small weeds) just two species visible - in front Iris planifolia (with its leaves). The plant in the background is Iris gatesii.
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Yes it's brilliant to see them. What are the big leaves?
And if you mean the big leaves dotted around Oron's pix in post 51. page 4 of th is thread... then those are, I believe ( ! :D ) Urginea maritima
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Yes it's image 51.
I'm not paying close attention. I'm multi tasking again. Watching the forum, editing today's photos and watching yesterdays "Secret Life of Elephants".
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for example: here are the Juno which shows infection by virus. I have spoken about it before.....
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Here are two of Gerhard Raschun's photos, repeated from the Flowering Now pages.....
Iris stenophylla bud
Iris rosenbachiana Tovil Dara
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Thanks Maggi ;D
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for example: here are the Juno which shows infection by virus. I have spoken about it before.....
Terrific !!! ???
Where did you buy them ???
I also have a lot of new plants from England and other countries, and I hope not to have the same disillusion .....
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Here is my first 2009 Juno flower, Iris rosenbachiana, other forms are late ;)
(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/eos5dm10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=392&u=11843503)
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Fred,
It looks as though your rosenbachiana is growing outside in your
garden. Is that right?
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Not really Diane !
It's completly hardy in my garden but it's covered to be protected from rain.
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Looks gorgeous Fred !!
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What a fantastic photo Fred.
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Fred,
So you need to protect it from winter rain? You don't get summer rain,
so it does not need to be covered in summer.
I'm trying to figure out which species I can grow outside.
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Ho Yes Diane,
they also need protection in summer as we sometimes have rainy summers in France :'(
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Fred,
Beautiful photo of this gorgeous plant!
Can I ask you how your photos are large without clicking on the photo to bring up a larger version and how it can be done?
edit by M: Miriam, I have sent you a PM to advise you :D
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Myriam,
I use this server : http://www.servimg.com/upload.php
Just copy and past bbcode full size image.
Best
Fred
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Fred, congratulation - pic and plant are gorgeous! :D
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Hope it is ok if I show another Iris persica - in my eyes a great form.
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In my eyes too Hans, it's a beauty.
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Hope it is ok if I show another Iris persica
You have our permission to do so Hans... and many more .... ;D ;D ;D please...
We can never get enough of them ! :D
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Thanks Hans
I think this flower is more then superb....it has a perfect form and color combination.
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Hans,
what else ????
Picture and plant are :o :o :o
This form is really very very nice !
All your Iris are in ground ?
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What an exquisite photo and plant Hans. Lucky you. This forum gives us the opportunity, when we want to jump up and down with joy when some of our plant treasures flower, to share them with others who will appreciate them. When my first oncocyclus, grown from seed, came into flower in about 1991 I felt like I was alone in the desert. There was hardly anyone in Australia who was growing arilbreds let alone arils. BUT NOW there are likeminded people all over the world wth whom we can share our joy.
Pat
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Yes please Hans, show us as many photos of Iris as possible, your photography is
superb and the plants in such good health and so rare .At first I thought it looked like
I. galatica , as the colouring was very much like forms of that species I have seen,
but then I noticed that the outer bract was stiff ,erect and green, almost like a leaf,
so it has to be I. persica.
Pat, despite 43-44C for the last 4 days [a record since they started keeping records
in 1856] I have not wilted away yet , but some plants have gone to their heaven.
Pat ,you were not the first one here in Australia to feel alone in a desert when your
first onco flowered in 1991. There was a Dr. Loveridge in Young ,N.S.W. ,who grew many rare Oncocyclus species in the sixties and I still remember the joy in seeing
the first one in flower , I. iberica ssp. elegantissima , which flowered in 2 years ,
from seed received from Tiflis Bot.Garden in 1965 , and since then I grew [and killed as many ] many other oncos from Syria Lebanon, Israel , Jordan , Turkey , Iran,
a joyous and sad story.
Otto.
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Thanks to all, I am glad you like the pic (thanks to Maggi it is also very huge now ;) ;D) - with such beautiful models it is quite easy to make good pictures ;) :D
In the next weeks there will be a few more Junos (and later on Oncos) which should flower and for shure I will be pleased to share some more pics with you, but I hope many more members show some more Junos here.
@Fred - All Iris grow in the garden even if the conditions of the plantingsites vary a bit (soil, moisture, sun-shadow) - exceptions are new plants because of risk of infections/virus and small seedlings which I grow in pots (Oncos for about one-two year, Junos because of the slower growth and generally smaller size 2 or 3 (or more))
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Hans , photo and plant of I. persica are superb !!!!! mine won`t flower this year :(
here are some picts , taken last weekend.
Juno svetlanae, first open bud
Juno spec. ex Afghanistan, I believe it is J. bucharica
Juno x willmottiana, virus infected, bought from P.C.
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Other suppliers offer heavily virussed willmottiana too unfortunately >:(
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Hans,
It will be a while before any pictures from me I am afraid. Noses of Junos only just poking through the ground, now covered in snow :(
Even longer to see I. persica from here, a couple of seeds just germinating :)
Good to see your pics as well Gerhard
Susan
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@ashley
This isn`t a respectable behavior ! >:(
There are healthy plants of J. willmottiana in my collection too, but from a German dealer.
But this year plants won`t flower at the same time, pollination won`t be easy.
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@Thanks Gerhard, you should try to self it - in difference to Oncos normally they produce seed.
Very fine plants - just willmottiana looks quite bad... :(
@Susan, thanks - so let us wait till snow has melt ;) - meanwhile I help Gerhard to bridge the time...
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Hans,
I LOVE your persica !!!
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/HEARTS%7E2.GIF)
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Hans - Words fail me. You keep showing us one better than the last! Thanks.
Fred - the beating hearts made me smile, I could use them to send my wife on Valentines Day (Feb 14)
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Hans - Words fail me. You keep showing us one better than the last! Thanks.
I agree, and look's like 66 other people do too. ;DFred - the beating hearts made me smile, I could use them to send my wife on Valentines Day (Feb 14)
You old romantic. ;D
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Thanks, I am glad you like them, I also love it ;)- if they only would be easier to keep... :-\ - it was the first flower of this plant (do not hope also the last one, as the weather became cold and wet ::))
@Susan - did you try "forced germination" with your persica seeds? If so, did you peel them?
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Hans,
These were ones I sowed this time last year. They had been left to fend for themselves over the summer then I put them with any of my other seed which hadn't germinated on heated cables in Jan.
Only 2 out of the 10 have germinated.
I have tried forced germination on this year's seed but no results yet.
Susan
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Very nice Junos.
Let me lower the tone with a few from my greenhouse: Iris stenophylla (the same one from my avatar) opening, Iris narbutii and one of my new favourites, though not a good photo I'm afraid, but it's I. rosenbachiana 'Tovil Dara', the excellent purple form from Janis.
Cheers,
Alex
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J. aucherii `shooting star` :D
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and a healthy ( !!!) J. willmottiana ;D
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Very nice plants everybody !
Alex, your garden seems to be a little snowy !! ;D
Your irises are in a greenhouse ?
Gerhard, your I. aucheri is wonderfull ! What a color !!!
I didn't know this clone.
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Stunning plants and pictures Gerhard !!
What a vibrant blue form of I. aucheriana !! :o :o
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Well done Gerdhard, seeds=health ;)
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So many beautiful juno's! I couldn't resist to send one of my treasures: Iris rosenbachiana 'Harangon'
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Very beautiful plants everybody, I feel another addiction coming up... :)
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Very beautiful plants everybody, I feel another addiction coming up... :)
Thank you.
Herewith another: Iris rosenbahiana 'Vash' (from Janis) - flowers 2/3 weeks earlier than Harangon
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Wonderful stuff Hendrik - I grow I. r. 'Harangon' too - but mine is still in bud - I hope it produces a flower this year - last year I got only leaves :-\
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Wonderful stuff Hendrik - I grow I. r. 'Harangon' too - but mine is still in bud - I hope it produces a flower this year - last year I got only leaves :-\
Luc, they need a dry summer rest! To wet/humid during summer, no flowers next year. I keep my pots dry during summer in frames, plunged in sand; there is always a little moisture from beneath.
Another one from a few years ago, but still good growing: Iris rosenbachiana 'Tovil Dara'
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Wonderful stuff Hendrik - I grow I. r. 'Harangon' too - but mine is still in bud - I hope it produces a flower this year - last year I got only leaves :-\
Luc, they need a dry summer rest! To wet/humid during summer, no flowers next year. I keep my pots dry during summer in frames, plunged in sand; there is always a little moisture from beneath.
Another one from a few years ago, but still good growing: Iris rosenbachiana 'Tovil Dara'
Sorry, wrong picture!
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Luc, they need a dry summer rest! To wet/humid during summer, no flowers next year. I keep my pots dry during summer in frames, plunged in sand; there is always a little moisture from beneath.
Another one from a few years ago, but still good growing: Iris rosenbachiana 'Tovil Dara'
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Well they were kept bonedry last summer - so I'm hoping....
By the way, Tovil Dara looks very nice as well !!
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One day not in this forum and so many great new pictures! :o
Alex thanks for showing your I. narbutii - to see mine first time in flower I will have to wait some more years.
Gerhard the colour of this Iris aucheri is breathtaking and Hendriks beautiful collection of Iris rosenbachianas are superb.
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You're right Hans ! ;)
I'm still waiting for I. rosenbachiana forms flowers and the 'Vash' is wonderfull !
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What species of orchid is in the picture above Hendrick?
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What species of orchid is in the picture above Hendrick?
Anthony, the picture is 2 years old; I think it is Barlia robertianum or Himantoglossum.
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Here also Iris willmottiana came in flower (in the open), it is a very beautiful species, in relation to the dwarf species it is larger and more leafy.
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Awesome Hans !!!
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Good shot, nice et very healthy plant : wonderfull Hans !
I'de love to have your climate !!!
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My 'TOVIL DARA' loks like Alex's one !
(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/eos5dm30.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=422&u=11843503)
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Absolutely stunning flowers Fred !
Are you growing it outside ???
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No Luc, all are in a bulb frame for the moment.
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No Luc, all are in a bulb frame for the moment.
Ah, so you are using what we would call a "naturalistic" frame..... are the bulbs are growing directly in the substrate or plunged in pots?
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No Luc, all are in a bulb frame for the moment.
Ah, so you are using what we would call a "naturalistic" frame.....
That's what fooled me Maggi.
Lovely setting Fred !
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No Luc, all are in a bulb frame for the moment.
Ah, so you are using what we would call a "naturalistic" frame.....
That's what fooled me Maggi.
Lovely setting Fred !
Yes, really looks good, Fred .... and the Iris, too!!
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Maggy and Luc, almost all my bulbs are in deep plastic pots in the bulb frame.
When I have more than 3/4 of one sp, I start to grow them outside, in a small rockery.
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Just a query really and this seemed the right place for it. I was wondering if anyone esle had grown a Juno sold as Iris narbutii X maracandica - attached is a pic from a few years ago when it finally flowered- my problem is from the images i could find of its parents, it didn't seem to look like either. Does anyone have any ideas?
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From today some Iris pics from Erich Pasche's greenhouse
1 - 4 = Iris nicolay
5 - 7 = Iris rosenbachiana
Gerd
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I'm getting crazy :o :o :o :o
What a wonderfull exhibition ! and quantity ! and quality !
May be I'm stupid but... who's Erich PASCHE ?
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:o :o :o - Gerd, thanks a lot for showing this great pictures - I am not sure if this type of pictures are really sane for me, but I enjoy them! ;D
Fred - do not know how to explain - Erich Pasche is one of the actual great german plantsmen - I think he was the person who introduced Crocus mathewii and there is also a Crocus paschei... :D
(hope this is right as I am only trainee croconut ::) 8))
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:-[ :o oups ! I didn't realize !
So yes, I know his name by litterature !
I suppose he should have an huge collection :)
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Gerd, thank you for these superb photos :o,
signs of a new addiction are developing after seeing all the beautiful junos on this thread. ::)
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For Oron 8) ;):
Today Iris aucheri started to flower - it is a much paler form than this one Gerhard showed earlier in this thread.
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One more splendid group hans !!
Pale but very nice and... without any trace of virus :)
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Fantastic! specially Gerd's pictures
Iris kuschakewiczii
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another species
Iris stenophylla subp. stenophylla
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and the last
Iris willmottiana
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All of them are gorgeous and looks so healthy !!
You're really a very good Iris grower, hans too, and I'd like to grow them as well as you.
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Stunning Junos everyone !
I'm afraid you've all made me become adicted to them... so here's my first (limited) success, it's been shown here before, I hope you don't mind seeing it again :
I. rosenbachiana 'Harangon'
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Great plants and pic Luc, but you should hold your background ... more in the background ;)
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Hey Luc, a great attempt. You must tell me more about how you grow them.
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Great plants and pic Luc, but you should hold your background ... more in the background ;)
I will remember that Fred !
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Hey Luc, a great attempt. You must tell me more about how you grow them.
Thanks David ! As I mentioned, this is a first, so I'm by no means a specialist...
I obtained the bulb two years ago, but it failed to flower last year.
So I'm quite exited it does this year ! My treatment is the following.
I potted it up in a long tom pot in september with its fleshy roots in a mix of 60 % grit and 40 % J.I. compost. The bulb itself was sitting on top of that mix and then covered with 100 % grit.
Watered twice in the Fall and then once or twice sparingly when the shoots emerge...
After it has finished flowering, I will water it only very carefully (adding some potash of course ;) ) until the leaves start to wither.
The leaves disappear in April or so and after that the pot remains bone dry in my veranda (where it spends the whole year actually - I don't have a proper greenhouse :'( ) -
During Summer it can get to 40 °C on the hottest days in there so it does get the "baking" its seems to like... and it's frostfree in Winter.
Maybe I should have posted this in the "I'm very happy" thread... ;D
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Thanks Luc, it seems to be working well for you.
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My treatment is the following.
I potted it up in a long tom pot in september with its fleshy roots in a mix of 60 % grit and 40 % J.I. compost. The bulb itself was sitting on top of that mix and then covered with 100 % grit.
Watered twice in the Fall and then once or twice sparingly when the shoots emerge...
Hi Luc,
Do you have a source for J.I. compost and long toms in Belgium?
I can't imagine that you hop over the channel with composts in sacks plus the pods.
But of course, nothing is impossible! ;D ;D ;D
Gerd
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Rafa and Luc, thanks for showing this fine plants - Iris kuschakewiczii is a real stunner!
I did not get any flower of Iris rosenbachiana this year - just leaves ::) - so I enjoy the pics of this species in this forum. :D
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Hi Luc,
Do you have a source for J.I. compost and long toms in Belgium?
I can't imagine that you hop over the channel with composts in sacks plus the pods.
But of course, nothing is impossible! ;D ;D ;D
Gerd
This world is a funny place Gerd. ::)
No J.I. or long Toms in Belgium :( ... but gardeners cannot be stopped, can they ???
I normally try to attend 2 or 3 AGS shows per year .... and yes.... on my way home we do stop at a garden center and bring some 15 bags of J.I. compost... + long Toms when needed....
I always have the feeling I'm responsible for a big hole somewhere in the British landscape... ;D ;D
Rafa and Luc, thanks for showing this fine plants - Iris kuschakewiczii is a real stunner!
I did not get any flower of Iris rosenbachiana this year - just leaves ::) - so I enjoy the pics of this species in this forum. :D
You're welcome Hans ! Very happy I could fill a gap... after all the beauties you've shown here ! :D
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Luc, you are in good company - I always took some pieces of limestone rock with me on my way back from Spain. My wife wasn't delighted but had a commodious footrest.
Gerd
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;D ;D ;D
We all belong to the same species Gerd ! ;)
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From today, an I. rosenbachiana 'Harangon' which is huge (not the best photo, sorry) and I. svetlanae, a nice intense yellow.
Cheers,
Alex
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The Iris svetlanae looks like a great plant. Does anyone else agree that this could be what my Iris narbutii x maracandica really is? - i'm reposting my pic.
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Iris sp# 1 Afghanistan, any idea ???
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An amazing Juno, Rafa!
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I've had them in the past, flowered them twice and killed them. I'm wondering if I should try again? What is the secret?
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I grow it in the bulbframe, against the house. I think it needs many sun 8)
It surprised me this morning because it is very beautiful, but I don´t know the species.
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Nice flower but no idea rafa ???
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New openings today :
Iris rosenbachiana 'HARANGON' :
(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/iris_r11.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=441&u=11843503)
Iris galatica,
(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/iris_g12.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=442&u=11843503)
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Super looking 'Harangon' and galatica, are you growing in a bulb frame or out in the great wide open world?
These plants look so much better for their more naturalistic planting.
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Hristo,
all are in bulbframe since this year ( last autumn ) : better to control water, slugs, but still have problems with my 2 cats !! :P ::)
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The top dressing you have used looks great, I've found Junos's much easier to keep in a bulb frame or in the open garden where conditions are more stable perhaps than those acheievable with pot culture.
I shall look forward to seeing more of your plants as they flower!
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very very good Fred, superb plants :o and pics
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Is there any news on the Juno book that Tony Hall has be working on for years?
Anyone heard anything? I am looking forward to THAT reference work.
Good to see your frame Rafa and the Afghanistan ssp.
Fred you do have some lovely Junos.
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Just reporting some success with the forced germination method we were talking about earlier in this thread.
So far I have I. paradoxa, I kirkwoodii, I. aucheri alba, I. tubergeniana, I. imbricata and a couple of I. sp. germinated and producing leaves. I have had a few packets rot. Some packets I didn't treat ( they are just sitting there and not doing anything) but I am now going through them and cutting them, also I am going through last years pots and treating them as well. I think although I have lost a few packets I think it is worth while as it isn't easy keeping pots going for a couple of years until they germinate naturally.
I will definitely do it again next year if I get any Iris seed.
Susan
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Pat, assuming that Kew will be publishing the book, there is no reference to it in their forthcoming titles.
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Rafa and Fred, great plants and superb pictures! Rafa - I have no idea which species this could be. ::)
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I think it could be Iris rafanensis ssp. iberica ;D ;D
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Fred love your study name
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In the bulb frame today - Iris 'Sindpers'
The first Juno to flower here this year.
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Very nice form Hristo - good blue too !
I've seen some more greyish/blue forms before...
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Opened today, Iris rosenbachiana 'Harangon', thank heavens for PVC sheeting or it would be under snow!
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Show us a pic of the frame - its always good to know how and where people grow these lovely plants.
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Hi Tony,
Pic of the bulb frame, this bed is our 'hostage' bed, many of these plants are in the open garden, this bed is simply an insurance policy against the weather and wildlife!
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Now, if I had somewhere flat enough to build one of those in full sun I could grow Junos too ???
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Hi Tony,
Pic of the bulb frame, this bed is our 'hostage' bed, many of these plants are in the open garden, this bed is simply an insurance policy against the weather and wildlife!
Thanks! You'll note from the hit count on the photo that I was not the only one interested! (30 hits before I tuned in!)
It is always interesting to see where and how other people grow things. We can learn more from this than the pretty pics that excite us so much :)
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True Tony,
I'm sure also there are stories behind every bulb frame! This one is version 6! The first were nearer the house and made of pine logs with various lid configurations, in winter the lids collapsed under snow or got blown away in high winds! Built this one in the spring-summer of 2008, put a modular frame system on top in the autumn, the whole lid was lifted off and blown accross the garden, Rebuilt it with large logs hanging off each module, wind lifted the whole thing off dropping 10 kilo logs inside the bulb fame! Third attempt - drilled holes in the concrete to attach battons, then attached frame to the battons, all the modules are connected by metal plasterboard frame formers. This has been through howling gales and has had 80+cm of snow sat on top!, not pretty but it works!
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....... in winter the lids collapsed under snow or got blown away in high winds! Built this one in the spring-summer of 2008, ........the whole lid was lifted off and blown accross the garden, .........., wind lifted the whole thing off dropping 10 kilo logs inside the bulb fame! Third attempt - drilled holes in the concrete to attach battons, then attached frame to the battons, all the modules are connected by metal plasterboard frame formers. This has been through howling gales and has had 80+cm of snow sat on top!, not pretty but it works!
So, there is often a clue...... your place is very windy ,then, eh? ;D ::)
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True Maggi, though for a short window of opportunity, the cusp of winter and spring, and autumn into winter, and only for one or two weeks at those boundaries.In the summer you just wish it was windy! :D
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That's not so bad really... a place where it is that windy all year would be very wearing.
For the summer you just need trees ;D ...... wind-resistant trees! ;)
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Our first juno this year is Iris aucheri. I had been hoping to take it to Dunblane on Saturday but it looks as if we will have to enjoy it ourselves.
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Lovely clean aucheri David :)
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very nice indeed David. Pot grown under glass?
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David, I can't even grow I bucharica, the easy, peesiest of the junos, in the garden so, yes, pot grown under glass.
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:o ;D :o ;D :o
Dizzy & swooning from having tried to take in this whole thread in one go!
Just wanted to say thanks for everyone for posting these stunners. Can anyone recommend a good book on Junos, i'd love to know more?
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Still in a pot because I forgot to put it in the garden (sorry Lesley!)- Iris bucharica following a battle with a slug. This year I'm also trying I. cycloglossa and I. graeberiana in pots but if they do well, showing good leaf at present, they may go in the garden for next year.
I'm also trying the Regelia Iris hoogiana in the greenhouse but so far nothing (and I mean nothing!!) to report.
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I'm also trying the Regelia Iris hoogiana in the greenhouse but so far nothing (and I mean nothing!!) to report.
David,
the regelias tend to be late. Most of my oncos and hybrids are well along, but hoogiana and stolonifera are just peeking out. Yours should show in a week or so.
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Just wanted to say thanks for everyone for posting these stunners. Can anyone recommend a good book on Junos, i'd love to know more?
Craig,
we'll all waiting for the Monograph (to which Tony Hall has been devoting his blood, sweat and tears) to be published by Kew.
A lot of info can be gleaned from the AGS and SRGC Journals over the last few years, especially the reports from the Joint Rock Awards.
cheers
fermi
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Thanks Fermi,
I'll ask someone in the Alpine yard if they know any more about when that might be published.
Best Wishes,
Craig
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Please do ask Craig when the book might be available - better start saving!
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Brushed the snow off the bulb frame this morning to discover I.aucheri had decided to start flowering.
This starts flowering here when the plant is much shorter than when I grew it in the UK, as the month
progresses the plant will reach a greater stature.
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It would be nice if it stayed that short ... :-\
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Too true Luc, the shorter 'look' is rather attractive, it will remain this way until the weather picks up when it wil get much taller.
In the UK this very same plant would grow to about 30cm, and show multiple flowers buds in the leaf axles before opening its first
flower!
I do wonder if the 'taller' form Junos exhibit when grown in cultivation is a result of being kept in 'warmer' winter conditions than would
prevail in the wild! ???
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I do wonder if the 'taller' form Junos exhibit when grown in cultivation is a result of being kept in 'warmer' winter conditions than would
prevail in the wild! ???
I believe that would most likely be the case... not only warmer than in nature but also with lower light levels.
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I do wonder if the 'taller' form Junos exhibit when grown in cultivation is a result of being kept in 'warmer' winter conditions than would
prevail in the wild! ???
I believe that would most likely be the case... not only warmer than in nature but also with lower light levels.
Specially the lower light level should be the reason in my opinion - here its quite warm but I get more sunshine than in UK and the plants stay short - http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2916.msg76439;topicseen#msg76439 (#144)
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I have decided that the relativly warm greenhouse and low light levels are responsible for the height of the junos. The height itself looks quite good but the stem is rather soft and weak and they tend to lean over.
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David, when I lived in Aberdeen my Junos ( pot grown ) were always somewhat stretched. Apart from artifical lighting I guess there is little to be done and maybe this is the price to be paid for growing a near eastern / central asiatic genus at a parallel not far off St.Petersburg or Kamchatka! I think really one should say Bravo for being able to grow them in Scotland at all! :D
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Two junos from the bulb garden in Gothenburg botanical garden.
1. Iris rosenbachiana. This special form used to be called I nicolai. Now considered to be a colour form of I rosenbachiana.
2. Iris persica. Collected in southeast Turkey
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Splendid Kenneth !!
Are they growing outside or in a bulb frame or glass house ?
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Super Iris images from everybody
After Gerd's initial posting - here an update from Erich Pasche's greenhouse...
I. rosenbachiana (two color forms)
I. palaestina (very rare)
I. stenophylla
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Kenneth especially the form of Iris persica is very fine!
Armin - this are really great pics - many thanks for showing this wonderful form of Iris stenophylla (looks like the form called Iris heldreichii in the past).
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Thanks Armin !
Stunning Iris' :o
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The bulb garden in Gothenburg botanical garden is outside but covered with a large glass roof. Like at glass house without walls.
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Kenneth, do you have general picture of the bulb garden as I'm thinking about something like that but I still have questions about rain coming from open sides.
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Splendid Kenneth !!
Are they growing outside or in a bulb frame or glass house ?
Hi Fred,
If you want to know more about how Gothenburg botanics grow their bulbs - you can go here ;):
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1910.0
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Splendid Kenneth !!
Are they growing outside or in a bulb frame or glass house ?
Hi Fred,
If you want to know more about how Gothenburg botanics grow their bulbs - you can go here ;):
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1910.0
...and also from here, Fred! http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2006/030506/log.html 8)
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Ok :(
Thank you everybody !
I'm crying now.... Huge building, I think just a bit too expansive for me ;D
Well, I've to draw something different and... smaller smaller smaller.....later ???
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I missed theses beautiful pics, specially to me this Iris persica from Goteborg B.G. and Iris stenophylla, really nice form. Armin, if you visit again Dr. Pasche please, give him my regards.
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Rafa,
I'll do so. ;)
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Thank you for helping me with pictures of the "bulb garden". I thought I had one but I can't find it. It is a constuction that works very well. It gives shelter against rain and it is not to hot in spring. The old bulb garden with a couple of small glass houses had just problem with to much heat during sunny days.
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My second Juno-Iris graeberiana
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Iris aucheri and I. aucheri 'SNOW WHITE' are flowering now, but I think the white clone more vigourous and taller than the type....
They're also quite different in habit...
I wonder if they're really the same species ????
Unfortunatly, no sun today for brighter pics :(
(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/11/84/35/03/eos5dm21.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=482&u=11843503) (http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/11/84/35/03/eos5dm22.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=483&u=11843503)
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Despite the lack of sun - still splendid pictures Fred !!
Congrats on your Graeb. David !!
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Does anyone know if Iris aucheri 'Snow White' is a garden selection or a wild selection?
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Does anyone know if Iris aucheri 'Snow White' is a garden selection or a wild selection?
[/Simon , I believe I. aucheri 'Snow Flake' is a wild selection , I grew it from seed with the following collecters number :KPPZ 90156 B -which stands for :
M. Kammerlander
E. Pasche
J. Persson
H. Zetterlund
quote]
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My Iris graeberiana only had two flowers open for the Stirling show but had four flowers two days later. The top flowers are fading now as the lower ones open so this was maximum flower power.
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They are lovely aren't they Roma. Looking around the Open Section at Exeter Show on Saturday it seems there are at least two types-one with yellow falls like your plant and mine, and one with white falls.
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Iris zenaidae is flowering, but I'm not sure it's a valid name, only a form of Iris graeberiana ??
(http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/11/84/35/03/iris_z11.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=486&u=11843503)
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What a glorious blue.
I sowed seeds of zenaidae in 2005, but none has germinated yet.
I guess I had better do what I do for all my slow iris: nip each
seed with nail clippers and soak for a few days.
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Superb plant and picture Fred !!! :o :o
I. zenaidae is still used as a name by both Messrs Ruksans and Bondarenko in their catalogues ... :-\
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Fred , Tony Hall ,ex Kew Bot .G. ,considers I . zenaidae to be the original I. graeberiana.and graeberiana 'yellow falls' and 'white falls' are supposed to be hybrids.
My seedlings of I.zenaidae should flower next year - it seems to be a vigorous species
Otto.
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Thank's otto,
I agree with this point of view as the growth is very different between the 2 'species' ;
I zenaidae is more compact than I. graeberiana and seems to handle less flowers.
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Go away to Greece for 7 days, come back and the garden has burst forth! :)
1 Iris aucheri in the open garden
2 Iris vicaria in the bulb frame
3 Iris 'Evening Shades' in the bulb frame
4 Iris vicaria 'Sina' in the bulb frame
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Beautiful selection Chris.
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Cheers David, here are some more, only a few left to flower in the bulb frame and then it's on to the remaining plants in the open garden.
Iris bucharica 'bicolor'
Iris graberiana 'White Fall'
Iris graberiana 'Yellow Fall'
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Chris, thanks for showing this wonderful Junos!
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They seem to be doing very well Chris !!
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A pleasure Hans, though if I recall correctly you have some of the 'sexier' species Junos in your garden!
Luc, as it turn out the plants in the open garden are doing better than those in the bulb-frame, I think in part the plants in the blub-frame got too hot while I was in Greece and some of the leaves have suffered. The plants in the open garden are more robust, but they are also based on magnifica! I think this autumn I will put the majority of the Junos into the open garden and keep one hostage of each in the bulb frame.
I have attached a pic of my Iris zenaidae which went AWOL earlier.
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Just opened today in the more mature rock garden, Iris 'Skyline'
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Skyblue all right ! ;)
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What an absolutely wonderful topic!! I had put off catching up on this one until I had time to properly enjoy the full impact...... Wow!!!!! :o :o :o ;D
Up until a year ago I had not successfully grown a juno. I killed Iris bucharica 3 times before giving up trying any further as it was the one that was supposed to be least killable. I did have stenophylla alisonii for a few years before a damp summer that took it out (I have forgotten what a damp summer is now, it was a few years back, that is for sure ;)). A year ago I ordered a couple of junos and grew them through their growing season successfully, even flowering one (can't remember whether I posted a pic or not?), so this year I ordered a bunch more.
Today I actually repotted last year's plants, finding that both of them were producing offsets and looking quite healthy. Such a relief!! Between those two and the few I bought this year I should hopefully flower a few of them this year if I'm lucky. Such a shame I no longer have the alisonii as I could now do it proper justice, I think. ;D
Thanks for these wonderfully inspiring pictures, even if they do just make me want to find and grow a bunch of them (I MUST grow rosenbachiana one day!!)..... which may not be a good thing. I can see "addiction" written on the wall ahead of me. ;)
Thanks again for the amazing pictures. So beautiful. 8)
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What an absolutely wonderful topic!! I had put off catching up on this one until I had time to properly enjoy the full impact...... Wow!!!!! :o :o :o ;D
Thanks again for the amazing pictures. So beautiful. 8)
Paul,
don't ya just hate it! ;) ;) ;D I've started building another small rockery for Junos. My infection is acute and the cure...well, it's one of those infections that must simply take its course. No known cure.
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Jamie,
I don't know.... if all that I have now go the way of the bucharicas I had, that might go a long way towards a cure!! ::) Here's hoping that they don't. ;D
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Only four or five left to flower after these two;
Iris magnifica x vicaria
Iris graberiana yellow fall
Both are from Janis, my first posting of Iris graberiana yellow fall was not from Janis, I guess I will be trying to work out what that actually is, I know where it came from though...... ::)
P.s...Jamie, Paul, don't worry about being obsessive, it's only a probelm for everyone else around you! ;D
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Hristo,
Very true!!!! 8)
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Hi there,
This is a call for help! Many years ago got seed out of the seed exchange for Iris x magnifica. It flowered in the UK ( no pics ) and them moved out here where it has sulked until now! My problem is between moving and the beasties of the field pulling out plant labels I am not certain if the attached pics are for the seed raised plant or a purchased hybrid/cultivar. The pics certainly have features of 'Blue Warlsind' and 'New Argument'.
If anyone out there is growing some of these hybrids/cultivars etc and cen help confirm if this is an existing named plant or is indeed my seed raised plant I would be very grateful.
Cheers
Hristo.
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Chris,
Beautiful colour to it. It's a shame now that I find anything with stripes like that automatically makes me think of virus!! :o I realise that it may not be anything even remotely like that, but the one on the right in the first pic immediately brings it to mind. ::) I feel like I'm sad and jaded now, unable to enjoy quite the intrinsic beauty I used to. :'( Curse you viruses!! ;D ;)
Seriously, I hope it is just a colour break, but the one on the right definitely looks less regular than the one on the left. And at least the standards are unmarked, so it would appear to just be natural variation. STUNNING colours to them, that is for sure.
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I don"t have any name for this beauty, but I really don't think that your plant could have virus.
Very very nice anyway !
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Sorry, the virus alert has been drilled into me both here and elsewhere. I can remove the posting referring to it if preferred?
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Thanks for comments Paul and Fred,
Paul, I have had virused Junos a long time in the past and by the time they flower the leaves show the effects of the virus.
The striping in the standards occurs in other hybrids like 'New Argument'. This plant which had one stem last year has come back as two stems,
so vigour is good. I will watch the leaves for any signs of yellowing and striping, but certainly they were clear last year and are clear so far this year.
Don't worry about asking the virus question, it makes us all re-assess our stock to ensure we maintain healthy and vigerous plants!
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Fantastic colouring and that it is increasing is good.
I have a small piece of what is believed to be Iris susiana - now that is virused!!!!!
Paul I have a few aucheri/magnifica junos that come up every year - they are in the garden where they never get watered unless it is heaven sent.
Funny how you can coddle some things and not others and get different results tha that you might expect
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Pat,
Bummer!! Can you self seed it, or is it self-infertile? Frustrating having something like that which is virused. Do you keep it isolated somewhere so you can still enjoy it, or use it in a hybridising programme?
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Pat,
Too true about the way we all tend to coddle our 'babies'! I will be putting all but a few of the Junos outside as the garden grown plants have out performed the ones I have protected! Simon ( Sinchets ) has found this to be true of many of his alpines which have in 9 months produced plants that would take years to develop in pots in an alpine house.
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Flowering Iris aucheri gave me the perfect Easter present today. I grow these dark seedlings
since several years without any protection in the open garden, but they never flowered so
profusely like this year.
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Beautiful plants, Rudi ...
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Chris and Rudi,
suberb beauties. :o 8)
Congratulations :)
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Beautiful, Rudi. I love the colour of the flowers! Such a good deep blue by the look of it.
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Wonderfull colors Rudi !
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Paul no Iris susiana has not flowered for a few years. A scientist at Waite Institute has tried on a few occasions to tissue culture it but with no success so far. I used it's pollen when it flowered last but no seeds resulted.
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Rudi , what an unbelievable shade of blue in your second picture of I . aucheri ,
is it true to colour? I have never seen anything like it .
Congratulations for such superb plants grown in the open garden.
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Great stuff everyone ! 8)
That blue is really heavenly Rudi ! :o :o
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Chris and Rudi thanks for showing this beauties!
Do you know if your breathtaking Iris aucheri is from the famous KPPZ Collection at Leylek Station?
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Hello Hans,
thank you for your friendly comment. You are right, the plants are KPPZ seedlings which I received
from Mr. K in 2004.
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Thanks Rudi,
seeing your pictures I remembered to have seen a picture of some very variable aucherii seedlings :) - did you also get brighter ones?
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Hans, Rudi, cheers for that discussion,
Super to see those pics Rudi as we have had our first germinations from the progeny of that collection!
So another 4 years maybe to 'Child of KPPZ Leylek Station'!
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Can someone please tell me a little about Leylek Station?
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This wil be my penultimate Juno post for the year, this is Iris x magnifica from AGS seed, so HOORAH, correct and fab and all the better for being seed raised!
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Lovely Chris, did you treat the seed in any way or just use the sow 'em and cover 'em with grit method?
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Bravo Chris !
It's always so nice to get your own first flower from seeds !!!
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You got it David, I don't subscribe to all this plucking nipping and stuffing stuff in jiffy bags, the fridge has enough probelms coping with seed for 3,000 flowering species! The seeds go in a pot with a sandy loam mix, grit covered and then we check em every year. This year after 2 to 3 years we have had germinations of Iris rosenbachiana, Iris zenidae, Iris persica, Iris nicoli and Iris aucheri amongst others. We also have a dedicated bed for sowing the bearded and oncocyclus iris seed.
True Fred, it will be a few more years before we see more Junos flower from seed! :'(
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Iris zenaidae - is this virused? or bad cultivation :'(
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Hi Diane,
Has it or is it going to flower? Maybe the flowers will tell the story more clearly! I had scorched leaves this year due to the plants in the bulb frame getting too hot / dehydrated, the effects on the leaf were not as 'streaky' as in your image.
If you are suspicious why not isolate and then self-pollinate the plant and grow on from seed!
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Hi Diane,
Has it or is it going to flower? Maybe the flowers will tell the story more clearly! I had scorched leaves this year due to the plants in the bulb frame getting too hot / dehydrated, the effects on the leaf were not as 'streaky' as in your image.
If you are suspicious why not isolate and then self-pollinate the plant and grow on from seed!
I have isolated it, as I am paranoid about virus as I have a lot of other irises that I don't want infected. It has since gone soft at the neck, so I think it is not well
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Diane,
viruses are my sphere and I easily identify virused plants from the ones infected with other deceases of non-virus origin.
Your photo is not clear enogh to give a certain diagnosis. Your plant seems to be infected with fungal decease as botrytis. If you take a closer shot of its leaf serface I'll try to give a concrete answer.
In case of virus lighter green or darker green irregular stripes appear on the normal backgrownd of the leaf. In addition, these irregular stripes shouldn't be confuced with leaf vainings, which also are slightly darker, but have a symmetrical pattern.
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viruses are my sphere and I easily identify virused plants from the ones infected with other deceases of non-virus origin.
Your photo is not clear enogh to give a certain diagnosis. Your plant seems to be infected with fungal decease as botrytis. If you take a closer shot of its leaf serface I'll try to give a concrete answer.
Thanks Zhirair for your thoughts, I will try and get another picture but it may be a few days
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Hello Diane,
I agree with Zhirairs opnion, what is visible in my eyes looks like a fungus infection - the soft neck also indicates this.
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Possibly something too late for your countries, but here Junos are in full bloom. For start the most georgous and easiest Juno - magnifica. Others will follow.
Janis
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Lovely to see these flowers in full bloom in Latvia.
I will merge this page with the Juno page in the Iris Section. :)
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One of my favourite Juno, Iris cycloglossa is really a must have !!!
easy to grow, to flower, to increase, fragrant, big, blue, beautyfull ;D
(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/eos5dm60.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=549&u=11843503)
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Iris cycloglossa in the garden or in a pot? I'm tempted to plant mine out as they are not thriving in a pot.
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Fred,
a gorgeous foto. Grrrr, now my keyboards all wet! ::) ::) ;D
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In the garden Tony !
It's very easy to grow and is very water tolerant !
Regelian, I'll send you some handkerchief ;D
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Fred your photos are absolutely stunning - :o :o
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Wow :P ...certainly a must-have with fragrance - great photo Fred, how long does it flower for?
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One single flower does last about 3-4 days !
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Not only Jamie's keyboard get's wet.... ::) ::)
Wonderful flower and stunning photograph Fred !
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One of my favourite Juno, Iris cycloglossa is really a must have !!!
:o :o :o -Fred, you are absolutly right ...and I do not grow it... :-\
Fascinating pic!!!
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One again, Studio style for rafa ;D ;)
(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/iris_c10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=550&u=11843503)
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:o
C'est Magnifique!
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Thank's fermi ;)
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:o :o :o :o :o :o (I seem to be doing this a lot on the forums of late. Breathtaking pics!!)
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Fred it's almost like black theatre - in your studio photo of Juno I expect things to happen any minute ::)
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Fred, it is really hard to type when you are on your back...on the floor...feeling dizzy...
StUnniNg PHoTo Of A StUnNing SpEcIES!!!
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;D :D ;) :P
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A clump of Iris cycloglossa I saw in Kew at saturday - I am still in phase of recuperation... :P
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Hans,
Thanks for that pic, the paramedics have gone now and I am working out if my remaining 30 years from the official 3 score and ten are enough to grow a clump that big!!
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A clump of Iris cycloglossa I saw in Kew at saturday -
Goodness gracious me :o Amazing 8)
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Wow, and wow again.
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Hans !!!!!
(http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/G_04BI%7E1.GIF) (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/surpris-yeux-crie.gif) (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Surpris/surpris-choc-pale-.gif)
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Hans, I hope you get better soon ! ;D ;D
A M A Z I N G plant !!
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I think everyone else has said it pretty well. 8) Nice!! ;D
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Looks like there are quite a few members who are trying to recover ;D
That camera was a heck of a good investment for all of us on the forum - being able to see such superb details.
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Congratulations to Kew and amazingly well captured Hans - dare I suggest that you were obviously ahead of the queue? ;D
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Thanks - I am ok again ;) -without any doubt this was the largest Juno clump I have ever seen - does anybody know if the gardeners of Kew were teached in Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry? 8) ;)
Robbin, I also was surprised, but there was no queue and I nearly passed it, as my eyes seem to be trained in detecting much smaller plants... ::)
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I didn't realise that this one flowered so late-Iris cycloglossa. Grown outside in a deep pot.
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Iris cycloglossa was included in the Gold NMedal winning display at the Aberdeen Show yesterday from the Royal Botanic Gardens, Edinburgh. It is one of my favourite Iris, not least because of the delicious scent. :D
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My first Juno for the year, and the first ever flowering of this for me.... a surprise as it was small and I didn't expect any flowers this year. Very short, but I expect it will be taller in the future when it bulks up a bit! Fascinating colour!!
Iris (Juno) 'Sindpers'
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.
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What a little beauty :o Lovely colour.
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Congratulations, Paul, on your first Juno - I love the pale frilly petal with the yellow speckled 'tongue' - it certainly is a shorty!
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Lovely Paul.
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Well done Paul !
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Robin,
Yes, and it should BE this short. Will remain to be seen whether it does this every year or not. It is actually only the second Juno I have flowered, my first being last year. Very pleased that they're doing well, and particularly that last year's 2 plants are growing again this year (which is a relief! ;D)
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Paul , your photo of I . x'Sindpers'is of much better quality than mine . even though we have the same camera . Perhaps you might like give me a few hints to improve mine .
Also flowering at the moment is the easy I. bucharica (yellow form)
the amazingly beautyful darkblue form of I. aucheri 'Shooting Star'
and I. nussairiensis alba - many thanks to Lesley
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Otto,
Stunning pics. Love that deep blue 'Shooting Star'. :o I must try bucharica again...... tried it a few times previously and killed it, but I have done far more research this time and I am succeeding with Junos now it would appear (at least so far). ;D
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Wonderful stuff Otto !! :o
It must be great being able to grow them outside... at least I think they are in the garden 8)
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A lovely selection of Junos there Otto.
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Luc,
Yep, Otto had them out in his garden last year when we were visiting. They were absolutely amazing!! Some of them were so tall. I lusted after pretty much every one of them that I saw there. ;D I grow mine outside too all year around, but I have them in pots so I can monitor them a little easier. I'm hoping that the rest of them will end up a little taller than sindpers though. ::)
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I don't mind them being that dwarf Paul !!
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Luc,
It does look a little stunted though. ::)
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Wonderful stuff Otto !! :o
It must be great being able to grow them outside... at least I think they are in the garden 8)
Yes Luc , all my bulbs ( many different genera) are growing in the garden without protection ,and that includes the 'Junos'.
thank you all for your nice remarks ,
Otto.
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Paul and Otto, thanks for showing this great Junos! :o
Iris aucheri 'Shooting Star' is a real eyecatcher - so sane and with a wonderful colour! It also has Leylek station as origin?
Thanks for showing them.
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2 more Junos flowering atthe moment , the very robust and easy I magnifica alba - Lesley
I see your's is in flower too ,
and the yellow one I grew from seed labelled I. maracandica , would the experts please let
me know if it is true to name ?
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Beautiful, Otto. Such a wonderfully crisp white on the magnifica. Good luck with IDing the other one. 8)
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Very nice plants and beautifull pics otto, but I'm afraid I can't help you with the names... :P ::) ???
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Congratulations Otto - really fine, sane plants!
Sorry - as Paul and Fred I cannot help with the Id of this beauty ::)
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Otto,
There is an image of Jim Almonds maracandica from the Blackpool AGS Show 13th March 2004.
Regards
Chris
edit by Maggi : here's the link: http://freespace.virgin.net/kate.almond/Bp04.htm
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magnifica alba is really lovely Otto... when you say it is robust do you mean it likes the climate with you? I would like to know more about Junos to grow them here if possible.
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Flowering for me now, what I have under the name of Iris graeberiana - white falls, although the falls are lemon to me. I still love it though. Sorry for the less than perfect quality..... I've only just processed the photos and the drizzle has now affected the flowers so it isn't looking nice enough to photograph.
Please click on the pic for a larger version.
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Looking good and healthy Paul !!
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Nice looking iris, Paul,
what depth pot do you use for it?
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
It's a terractotta long-tom type. I can get exact dimensions for you if you'd like?
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Paul where do you find long toms in Australia??
Really lovely healthy plant.
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Pat,
That's why I said "long tom type". They're much taller than normal, but I am not sure exactly what a long tom is. These are 27cm wide from outside of rim to outside of rim, and 32cm from base to top. I have just taken a couple of pics for you, but the weather is a bit icky so I don't know how they'll turn out. I'll upload them later and see how they look.
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Pat and Paul ,
not in long toms, but happy growing in the open the following 3 easy Junos hybrids have
brought this year's Juno season to its close .
1 Iris x'Warlsind' the old but attractive old Van Tubergen hybrid :I. warleyensis x aucheri
(syn. I. sindjarensis)
2 (010(6) I. 'Oriental Jewel' = I. warleyensis x bucharica
3 (013(5) I. 'Skyline' = I. willmottiana x magnifica
Pat , I only wish I could grow Oncos as successfully as you do - you are a genius !
mine just linger on .
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And Otto I would love to grow some of those Junos you have just shown us if you ever have spare. Lets just say I have been extremely lucky growing the arils. I just hope this year has not been too wet or that we suddenly get some really hot weather to rot the rhizomes.
I feel a bit like a farmer who is always looking to the weather!!!
Pat
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Beautiful, Otto. All 3 of them. :o :o
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Beautiful, Otto. All 3 of them. :o :o
I couldn't agree more !! 8)
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Beautiful, Otto. All 3 of them. :o :o
I couldn't agree more !! 8)
.......and I hope you have all noticed the Tecophilaeas growing in the background? 8)
Lovely things in your garden, as ever, Otto!
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Here, here, always something special from your garden Otto :)
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Here, here, always something special from your garden Otto :)
Thank you all , you are always so generous with your compliments ,
Otto.
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Otto,
Do your assorted junos set seed? If so, have you grown them on and found out whether they are naturally hybridising?
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A bit late to the party I fear, but super looking Junos Paul and Otto!
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Hi Folks,
I am new to this Juno Irises page, but that does not stop me trying to post a few Juno's flowering at the moment.
I love the Juno's, a bit of a challenge, not easy to grow, but well worth a try.
I am also attempting a few other Juno species, with mixed results, but I don't give up.
Bill.
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Bill, very very nice Iris cycloglossa !
a pure jewell, and smelling !!!
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Bill, Iris cycloglossa is a real stunner :o 8)
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Wow, I'll say!
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A few years ago I acquired/bought some Iris juno species seed from a reputable grower/collector.
Last year Iris orchioides flowered for me the first time, at least that's what I thought/presumed was true.
Lesley informed me that the form I grow will most likely be the pure yellow Juno bucharica.
Could someone perhaps explain the difference between the two and/or show the true Juno orchioides for comparison please.
Thanks. Bill
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Bill, see my post in the SH page : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4258.msg115084#msg115084
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Here is another Juno Iris species just opened up a few days ago.
According to Franz Köhlein's "Iris" book description, this Juno vicaria, (syn.Iris orchioides var.coerulea) comes from central Asia on stoney slopes in Turkestan.
Very closely related to Juno magnifica. The stalk is very well-developed and the blossoms are blue-violet, with dark yellow spots on the falls. Little known and probably not cultivated, according to this expert.
Just one expert's opinium I suppose, can anyone confirm/verify or tell us more about this species?
PS: what do the Iris/Juno growers/members think of Franz Köhlein's "Iris" book? Has anyone got this book?
Thanks. Bill
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Hello Bill. Vicaria is offered by 3 online specialist suppliers, the cost runs from $7.00 USD to to 3.00 Euro
to 13,50 GBP ( $23.22 USD ). There is also a white form available. Janis Ruksans Bulb Nursery in Latvia
also offers it. His clones are from Tadjikistan and Uzbekistan. One priced at 3.00 Euro and one at 10.00 Euro.
I grow Vicaria along with a dozen or so other Juno's. I have both of the "iris bible's", "Iris" by Kohlein and
"The IRIS" by Brian Mathew.
I haven't pulled out Kohlien's for a couple years now (until tonight :) ) but look in The IRIS at least once a week.
Mathew says Vicaria "differs" from Magnifica. It is cultivated in several specialist collections. But at the
prices I can't see why all Iris lovers should not grow it.
Another thing about about Kohlein, He says that the "cutting of the seed" method cannot be
used on the Oncocyclus and Regelia species (pg. 74). I and many others in the Aril Society International
have been doing this for years and it works very well. For those who do not know the Juno's are also
"arilate" with an aril on the seed. The index in Iris is also very difficult to navigate.
Regards. John PS Trying an attachment for the first time! ;D
According to Franz Köhlein's "Iris" book description, this Juno vicaria, (syn.Iris orchioides var.coerulea) comes from central Asia on stoney slopes in Turkestan.
Very closely related to Juno magnifica. The stalk is very well-developed and the blossoms are blue-violet, with dark yellow spots on the falls. Little known and probably not cultivated, according to this expert.
Just one expert's opinium I suppose, can anyone confirm/verify or tell us more about this species?
PS: what do the Iris/Juno growers/members think of Franz Köhlein's "Iris" book? Has anyone got this book?
Thanks. Bill
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Here is another Juno Iris species just opened up a few days ago.
According to Franz Köhlein's "Iris" book description, this Juno vicaria, (syn.Iris orchioides var.coerulea) comes from central Asia on stoney slopes in Turkestan.
Very closely related to Juno magnifica. The stalk is very well-developed and the blossoms are blue-violet, with dark yellow spots on the falls. Little known and probably not cultivated, according to this expert.
Just one expert's opinium I suppose, can anyone confirm/verify or tell us more about this species?
PS: what do the Iris/Juno growers/members think of Franz Köhlein's "Iris" book? Has anyone got this book?
Thanks. Bill
How old is this book, Bill? The Iris vicarias we have here tend to be paler some with interesting markings on the falls, but these may be hybrids with I.magnifica. We also find the seed easy to germinate without needing to attack it with a knife. ;)
Thought I'd pop back and modify this by adding 2 pics- the first is I think a 'standard' I.vicaria and the second I.vicaria 'Sina' from Janis- both of which flowered here last spring. I have seedlings from garden collected seed, but it will be a few more years before these flower.
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How old is this book, Bill? The Iris vicarias we have here tend to be paler some with interesting markings on the falls, but these may be hybrids with I.magnifica. We also find the seed easy to germinate without needing to attack it with a knife. ;)
Thought I'd pop back and modify this by adding 2 pics- the first is I think a 'standard' I.vicaria and the second I.vicaria 'Sina' from Janis- both of which flowered here last spring. I have seedlings from garden collected seed, but it will be a few more years before these flower.
Hi Simon, now that you mentioned Janis Jilek, I believe now that the I.vicaria 'Sina' seed originally came from Janis a few years ago, which might explains the darker form or hybrid that I grow.
Is Janis still in business and does he still sells good quality juno seeds? Have you got his website?
Do you know of any other capable, reliable, (reasonably priced), grower/collector that sells good seed?
The 'Iris' book by Franz Kohlein was originally an german 1981 edition, translated in 1987 by Timber Press Inc. and reprinted in 1989 and 1995. Yes an old book superseded perhaps by more modern, other up to date Iris books.
Thanks very much for the information. Bill
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Hello Bill. I grow Vicaria along with a dozen or so other Juno's. I have both of the "iris bible's", "Iris" by Kohlein and
"The IRIS" by Brian Mathew.
I haven't pulled out Kohlien's for a couple years now (until tonight :) ) but look in The IRIS at least once a week.
Mathew says Vicaria "differs" from Magnifica. It is cultivated in several specialist collections. But at the
prices I can't see why all Iris lovers should not grow it.
Hi John, do you know if 'The Iris' by Brian Mathew is still available and where I could purchase this book?
Thanks very much for your reply and information.
Bill
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Hi John, do you know if 'The Iris' by Brian Mathew is still available and where I could purchase this book?
Thanks very much for your reply and information. Bill
It's usually available second hand: try
http://www.abebooks.co.uk (http://www.abebooks.co.uk)
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=brian+mathew&bt.x=0&bt.y=0&sortby=3&sts=t&tn=the+iris (http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=brian+mathew&bt.x=0&bt.y=0&sortby=3&sts=t&tn=the+iris)
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Hi John, do you know if 'The Iris' by Brian Mathew is still available and where I could purchase this book?
Thanks very much for your reply and information. Bill
It's usually available second hand: try
http://www.abebooks.co.uk (http://www.abebooks.co.uk)
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=brian+mathew&bt.x=0&bt.y=0&sortby=3&sts=t&tn=the+iris (http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=brian+mathew&bt.x=0&bt.y=0&sortby=3&sts=t&tn=the+iris)
Other good online sources of second-hand books include
http://www.abebooks.com/
http://www.alibris.com/
http://www.bookfinder.com/
http://www.amazon.com/
and other national Amazon sites.
Of them all, I prefer to start with bookfinder.com as it is an aggregation site and will search all the others at one click of the mouse. Also, it always shows prices *including* approximate shipping costs. When you are comparison shopping, always take into account shipping and handling charges, as they can be quite high in some cases, reasonable in others.
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Hi Simon, now that you mentioned Janis Jilek, I believe now that the I.vicaria 'Sina' seed originally came from Janis a few years ago, which might explains the darker form or hybrid that I grow.
Sorry, Bill I should have been clearer the Iris vicaria 'Sina' was from Janis Ruksans of Latvia. Others we have were grown on from AGS seedex of Iris magnifica, which look to be magnifica X vicaria hybrids.
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Simon,
interesting that many of the I. magnifica seed produced what may be hybrids. Leaves open the question, just how seperate from I. magnifica is I. vicaria? May really be more of a sub-species situation.
Speaking of I. magnifica, I've not been able to germinate seed of this species, yet, after 18 months in the pot. Is there a secret, or simply patience and luck. The seed is still firm. I have better success with arils!
Although I rather like the Mathews BooK 'THE IRIS', it is very out of date and we sorely need a revision. Better fotos, expanded text, more genetic analysis, etc. For the enthusiast, it is still one of the better references, although I refer to Kölhein's book, IRIS, much more often. In both books, I find there is much interesting information, as well as much to disagree about. They are both reflective of the decades in which they were written. Actually, I would prefer a book that handles only the pogon sections, which is a more interesting and meaningful grouping, with a second volume addressing the apogon series. Pity the BIS publication is already out of print and close to impossible to obtain. A reprint would be nice, don't you think.
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Howdy All,
I recently posted pics of an Iris I received as Iris Graeberiana - White Falls (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2916.msg112497#msg112497). Can anyone confirm whether this looks correct or not? I am asking as it appears that there could be seedpods forming, at least they are definitely starting to swell. While they may still abort, I thought I would strike while the iron was hot and ask for name confirmation while people's minds were still on the Junos..... just in case the seed did mature. There really wasn't anything else out at the time so I would be assuming it was self-pollinated ..... perhaps there was a slight overlap with 'Sindpers' (which wouldn't be a bad thing, colour-wise. ;D). I'd just like to get the name right on the parent plant anyway... I am guessing that the "White falls" bit was either a relative colour, or else it is a place that it came from?
Any info appreciated.
Thanks.
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http://www.litbulbgarden.com/catalogue4.php#iris
Paul,
at the above address you can see I. graeberiana White Falls, which is apparently a hybrid and seems to lack the combs your plant shows. Plus, yours is much more yellow. I suspect that yours may be a seedling of the original selection or simply the true species. I have a bulb of 'Yellow Falls', but it has still to bloom. I would consider yours to be I. graeberiana, but I am far from experienced with this section of Iris.
Still, you have a lovely plant and any seed would be welcome!
jamie
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Simon,
Speaking of I. magnifica, I've not been able to germinate seed of this species, yet, after 18 months in the pot. Is there a secret, or simply patience and luck. The seed is still firm. I have better success with arils!
Jamie, looking at my records my F1 Iris magnifica seeds (that is seeds from the AGS seedex Iris magnifica hybrids) were sown October last year and had germinated by the spring just let outside in pots exposed to the weather. The same for seeds we collected from 'Iris vicaria'. I have had seed of other Junos sit in pots 2 years before they germimated, so maybe you shouldn't give up just yet!
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Thanks Jamie. At least I now know it is definitely graeberiana, so that much is good. ;D Given that it wasn't evident why it would be called "White Falls", it left me wondering whether the species name was correct or not. I don't have any other graeberiana, so I don't mind that much. ;) Now here's hoping that the seed does set successfully.
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Paul, if if you have looked at the Link Jamie provided you will have seen both Iris graeberiana 'White Falls' and also 'Yellow Falls'. There is a pic below of my plant, bought as simply Iris graeberiana which won me a first in Section C at the South West AGS Show last March. I have also added a pic of Iris graeberiana 'White Falls', exhibited at the same Show in the Open Section by Jim Almond.
Maybe my plant is Yellow Falls, but whatever I'm sure I read somewhere the view that all the plants of Iris graeberiana currently available are hybrids anyway!! ???
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Jamie I too have had juno seed sit for a couple/few seasons in pots until they have decided to germinate. Treat the seed like arils in that you should keep the pots for years - never throw out! Hence my masses of pots.
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David,
Mine is certainly closest to your plant by the look of it. Do yours set seed naturally? Do you help them along? Looking at Jamie's link I think I wish I lived overseas where I could access them.... some amazing plants there, that is for sure!! :o
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Paul, it didn't set any seed and I didn't try to help it along. Maybe, if it graces me with it's presence for a further year, I'll get the paint brush out.
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Today I could take a picture of Iris planifolia in my garden - it was the first and maybe also the last Junospecies which flowers with me this year.
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A charming and delicate vison in the sunshine, Hans.... thank you!
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Fantastic Hans :o Great picture !!!!
spring is coming ;D
Mine ( ;) ) are smaller but I hope to get flowers in the next weeks.
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Hans what a nice clump - I have been checking the seed pods on mine to get them when they are ripe.
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Howdy All,
Just a quick update on my seed set.... it was either a false alarm, or else the heat we've had the last week has aborted them. I checked today and they were shriveling, so nothing in them. It was still exciting to think I had seed on the way. ;D Iris cycloglossa has been in flower here this week for the first time for me (only bought it this year, so I wasn't expecting even this single flower). Such a large flower for such a slender plant. Great colour and form to it to. The Junos are so cool. 8)
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Splendid Hans . Mine are far of blooming now
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First lot of Iris planifolia seeds harvested from the seed grown
NARGS 4156 Burge 287 07 seed plant
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Today I could take a picture of Iris planifolia in my garden - it was the first and maybe also the last Junospecies which flowers with me this year.
It's going to be a long drooling season ;D
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Today I could take a picture of Iris planifolia in my garden - it was the first and maybe also the last Junospecies which flowers with me this year.
Wonderful clump Hans !! But aren't these way ahead ??? Have you ever had them this early (or should I say late.. ;D ) ??
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Iris cycloglossa has been in flower here this week for the first time for me (only bought it this year, so I wasn't expecting even this single flower). Such a large flower for such a slender plant. Great colour and form to it to. The Junos are so cool. 8)
Get your nose to the cycloglossa, Paul....the scent is JUST FAB! 8)
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Thanks for all the nice comments! :)
Glad it brings some sunshine to you - Fred I hope to see pictures of yours soon. ;)
Wonderful clump Hans !! But aren't these way ahead ??? Have you ever had them this early (or should I say late.. ;D ) ??
Luc - please have a look here - also last year at Halloween ;)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1242.105 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1242.105)
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Luc - please have a look here - also last year at Halloween ;)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1242.105 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1242.105)
Oops... after having looked at x-thousands of marvelous pix on this tremendous Forum since Halloween 2008, I hope you forgive my bad memory Hans...... ;D ;D ;)
By the way, it has much more flowers this year !! :D
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Maggi,
I went out to have a sniff of the Iris cycloglossa after reading your posting, but the flower had already closed. All I could smell was the Dracunculus vulgaris that I have flowering in the back yard at the moment (Pong!! :-X). Here's a couple of pics of the flower, just to show you some detail. Slightly nibbled I notice in the pics, although it wasn't obvious on the flower when I was viewing it, but I think I was just too taken with actually flowering to notice any blemishes. 8)
Please click on the pic for a larger version.
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Iris cycloglossa is one of my absolute favourites.... the scent , of course, is key.... but just look at that flower... even slightly chomped... is it not the most perfect shape and sublime colours? Bliss, I tell you!
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I can only second Maggi's opinion on this one Paul !
It looks gorgeous ! 8)
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I also agree with maggy : this species is just fantatstic !! and the smell too..... better than Dracunculus :P
Enjoy and try to gest seeds as it germinates very easily.
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Sensational Paul, in every way :D
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Fred,
If it sets seed I'll certainly sow it, although if it does its it's own doing and nothing that I've helped along. I've grown one of the easy junos from seed once, so I have been successful with that. Also a couple of the aril species. I must try more of them, as I do so love irises. ;D
Thanks for the responses everyone.
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From a generous donator, Iris planifolia is flowering now in France, a bit later than in Spain of course ;D
Growing in the Onco bed, so very bad for the picture, sorry for that.
Really nice flower, and what a smell !!! ::) :o
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So graceful, Fred, really lovely and lucky you being able to enjoy the smell as well ;)
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Well done Fred !
It seems to enjoy life in France ! ;)
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Beautiful Fred, just beautiful.
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Very beautiful Fred! ;)
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Excellent, Fred.
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blooming today this Iris palestina
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Fascinating colour by the looks of it, Rafa. Great stuff.
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:o -very early ...and as usual - great pictures, Rafa!
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I agree with Hans, early and superb !
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lovely Iris.
I would like to try Iris again. Does anyone grow bucharica hybrids?
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lovely Iris.
........... Does anyone grow bucharica hybrids?
It's quite possible that we all do Mark but think ours is the real one! ;D I can let you have one of mine one at re-potting time next year if you like?
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Thanks David but my birthday money isnt depleted yet.
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I pictured yesterday som Iris planifolia in noth Cadiz
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:o :o
Amazing!
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Superb rafa,
and so nice to see them in the wild !!
Are they all the same color ?
Miriam, and Oron, you should know this species, just flowering in the bulb frame, earlier than those in the open Iris bank ;)
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I love the delicate colouring, Fred. Rafa, great to see things flowering in the wild.
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Very nice one Fred! ;)
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Great pictures Rafa and Fred! :o
Finally also here Iris palaestina started to flower. ;)
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I can't stop looking at it...today in bloom- Iris planifolia :D
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Stunning flower and picture Miriam - looks like I could touch it !
Rafa, Fred, Hans : great plants !! :o :o
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Luc, is your chin as sore as mine? ;D
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I'm afraid so David !! :-\ ;D
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Lovely Iris - a species I could get seriously hooked on
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What a clump Hans !!!
Miriam, I didn't know I. planifolia was growing in Israel !! ;) ;D ;)
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Very nice all Fred, Hans and Miriam. Mine don't want to flower this year >:(
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Checking my picture library I found few pictures made by Henrik Zetterlund 2(3?) years ago in Iraq - as it is country where travelling at present isn't very joyfull I decided to show you those pictures. All rights belong to Henrik Zetterlund, Gothenburg, Sweden.
Janis
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Wow :o
Do you know in which area of Iraq these photos were taken?
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Most impressive to see these very robust looking Iris aucheri... thanks Janis, for bringing us HK's photos.
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Wow, Janis. :o :o
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Fantastic janis !
Many many thank's for showing this plants in the wild !!!
I can't imagine how many pictures I'd take in such a place ;)
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Fantastic pix Janis !!
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Wow :o
Do you know in which area of Iraq these photos were taken?
It is Iraq Kurdistan mountains, really the safest part of Iraq with excellent roads to each hilltop built by Sadam to keep country under totall control.
Janis
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Please don't remind me Saddam again :( ;D
He was such a nice neighbor :-X...
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Some Juno's from the same trip as the pictures I posted onco's thread
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Cracking pics Paul. Could I be a pain and ask you to add the names of the plants in the body of your post please as this is the only way the search engine will be able to pick them up. I'd hate them to be lost for ever.
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Some Juno's from the same trip as the pictures I posted onco's thread
Paul, I forwarded both pictures of lilac shaded flowers to Tony Hall asking his opinion about name. I can't name - pseudocaucasica, persica or galatica? All three has forms of such color. Where exactly pictured? In which corner? It would make identification easier.
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Janis, This Iris at the time 16/5/2006 had no name, I was Lucky to be on a trip with
Dr. Adil Guner of NGBG, The area this picture below was taken in Yusufeli, and set to be flooded
by a new dam very sad. if you find out the name I would love to know.
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Janis, This Iris at the time 16/5/2006 had no name, I was Lucky to be on a trip with
Dr. Adil Guner of NGBG, The area this picture below was taken in Yusufeli, and set to be flooded
by a new dam very sad. if you find out the name I would love to know.
Must be galatica, but I still didn't got reply from Tony. I have similar galatica's pictured by myself.
Janis
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A picture of the Iris sp. posted earlyer habitat.
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Might this iris be Iris
nezhatiae nezahatiae ??
We were shown that Iris recently in a talk by Robert Unwin, who also worked with Adil Gunner in Turkey, but I cannot recall if this is the one! :-[
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That's the one Maggi, we were on the same trip. Thanks
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Lovely thing... glad we've nailed it!
Horrible to think of so many plants being drowned by the dam, let alone the people displaced....... I understand that rather than to supply hydro electricity to the Turkish people, it is more to sell that electricity to Russia??
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Oh, it is very new described only in 2007. I'm not wondering that couldn't recognise it. Never saw it in viivo and didn't read its description. Only correct name is nezahatiae
Janis
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very nice to see a new species !
I agree with janis, looks like I. galatica
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Paul,
The nezahatiae is a fascinating colour. Almost a pink, something I mentally don't associate with the juno iris.
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I want to show variability of Iris galatica and persica. On this entry - Iris galatica - the first pictured in Gothenburg BG, others in my nursery. I never find them blooming in Turkey as I visited their area only long after blooming finished.
Janis
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Now variability of Iris persica, again - all pictured in my nursery. May be some could be galatica, because they are labeled as collected and name isn't rechecked in cultivation, on pictures isn't possible to check length of bract and bracteole by which you can separate both species (in galatica equal, in persica bracteole is shorter and +/- semitransparent while bract is leaf like).
Janis
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:o :o :o :o :o
Amazing, Janis. So many differences in both colour and shape/petals etc. Glorious.
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Janis, fabulous pics. Thank you. My preference is persica yellow
Dom
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:o :o :o :o :o
Amazing, Janis. So many differences in both colour and shape/petals etc. Glorious.
I can only agree with Paul !
What a variation in these stunning flowers !!
Thanks for showing them !!
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Great picture's Janis, the colour range wow.
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Janis,
If Iris nezahatiae is newly described and the site was to be flooded/dammed I sure hope the species was growing in a few different places. Do you know?
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Janis,
If Iris nezahatiae is newly described and the site was to be flooded/dammed I sure hope the species was growing in a few different places. Do you know?
I just got reply from Tony Hall - the leading authority in Juno irises. By his opinion Iris nezahatiae is just a purple form of I. caucasica subsp. caucasica. I tend to agree with him.
Personally I didn't saw such colored caucasica's but between pseudocaucasica such colors I found in Soviet time on Talish mountains in Aserbaijan, I think that Arnis Seisums similarly colored pseudocaucasica's collected in Iran, too.
Janis
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great variations on one species Janis !
Fortunately, Iris specialists are not so crazy as orchids fanatics !!!
We'll get hundreds of differents species for each colour or form variation >:( ::)
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Iris nezahatiae is named for the benefactor of the Botanic Garden....... a case of splitting for a greater good, I reckon!
While that Iris and many other plants will be drowned by the dam, efforts have been made to rescue a number and I am told that most do grow in other areas and so will not be lost completely by the dam works, Pat. :-\
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Thank goodness that many of the plants were being relocated before being flooded.
Hard enough to get to know all the arils let alone the junos too - we are always learning :)
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Might this iris be Iris nezhatiae ??
We were shown that Iris recently in a talk by Robert Unwin, who also worked with Adil GÜNER in Turkey, but I cannot recall if this is the one! :-[
Here is a note I got from Robert Unwin, along with one of his photos of the Iris nezahatiae.
" The iris is the new species I was talking about to you folks the other week. It is named iris nezahatiae after the sponsor of the Botanic Garden in Istanbul. I have included the link to a pdf of the paper that Adil has written on it. I have attatched a photo I took of it for your comparison. Hope that’s helpful.
Cheers,
Robert "
You can see the full file size of Adil GÜNER's paper here: http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/botany/issues/bot-07-31-4/bot-31-4-4-0703-14.pdf
but the file size is pretty large.... I have reduced it and if you save the link below, where the photo is, you'll find that a neater size! ;)
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Thank's a lot Maggi !
Very valuable bibliography.
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Here is a picture of I. planifolia, photographed in NW Morocco last autumn.
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Here is a picture of I. planifolia, photographed in NW Morocco last autumn.
Kees, you had posted your picture in a thread from 2007, I have moved it here!
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:o - missed so many beauties! Janis, Paul and Kees - thank you very much (again)! :D
Today found the first Iris persica in flower which had to resist very harsh conditions : strong wind, heavy rain, sun and changes of temperature from near 0ºC to more than 20ºC during the last days - so I think it looks still surprisingly well.
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Super photos all,
Hans, your I.persica looks fine given the range of temperatures it's experiencing.
In the garden her Iris svetlanae is just above ground but vanishes every other
day under the snow!
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Looks wonderfull Hans, and very strange colour §
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:o - missed so many beauties! Janis, Paul and Kees - thank you very much (again)! :D
Today found the first Iris persica in flower which had to resist very harsh conditions : strong wind, heavy rain, sun and changes of temperature from near 0ºC to more than 20ºC during the last days - so I think it looks still surprisingly well.
Excellent form!
Janis
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Fantastic Hans!
I see that the Irises were waiting until you came back in order to flower ;) ;D
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Miriam, you cannot imagine how right you are. ;D ;)
Chris, Fred, Janis and Miriam – thank you very much for your kind comments. Iris persica is for sure one of my favourite Juno species because of the the size and the great variabilty (shown by Janis recently) - a pity it does not belong to the easy Junos to keep.
I am also a bit surprised about the early flowering this season: It started about 20 days earlier than last season (but not bad: two flowering periods in one year ;))
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Hans is there a thread to your visit to Chile? - and is you photo from there?
Lovely subtle colours in that Juno.
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Thank's pat, I was thinking exactly as you about Hans's Chile trip ;)
We're waiting for pics Hans, in 2009 ;D
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Pat, yes you are right, it is the volcano Llaima in the south of Chile.
Pat, Fred - here you are ;): http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4739.msg127872#msg127872