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Title: Gagea
Post by: Oron Peri on January 08, 2009, 03:10:55 PM
The early species of this Genus are starting to bloom at the moment.
This Genus is the hardiest to identify, there are many similar species with a wide distribution from Greece and Cyprus to turkey and Iran.
Many of the species can be distinguished only by checking the corms, form of roots or by the presence of bulbils.
First two species to flower here are G. dayana and G. chlorantha [ the only species here with rounded petals]
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: ashley on January 08, 2009, 03:34:13 PM
Oron thanks again for your great posts. 

Gagea is (another) one of my favourite genera but unfortunately also poorly represented on most seed lists :'(
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Armin on January 08, 2009, 04:16:58 PM
Oron,
very lovely. Gagea = overlooked treasures. ;)

Ashley,
agree with you.

Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: David Nicholson on January 08, 2009, 06:54:08 PM
Very nice indeed, I must try some of those.
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Oron Peri on February 04, 2009, 05:19:48 PM
Going back to Gagea,
This is Gagea commutata, a common species in this region extands to Turkey and Iran,
in this area it is the largest species and i find it to be also the easiest to grow in a pot.
It is probably hardy, since it is growing also on Mt. Hermon.
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: ashley on February 04, 2009, 07:03:06 PM
Oron,

That's such a beauty :o

Do the green tips of the tepals revert to yellow as the flower ages, or are these slightly different forms?
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Gerdk on February 04, 2009, 07:15:11 PM
Do the green tips of the tepals revert to yellow as the flower ages, or are these slightly different forms?

Or vice versa?
I found a Gagea here in Germany which had green flowers and perhaps was
yellow at the beginning.

Gerd
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Oron Peri on February 04, 2009, 08:07:18 PM
All species  have this combination of yellow and green on different levels,
most start with green tips to become yellow and  green-radish as flower ages.
the exterior of the sepals is usually green and so it reflects often on the middle strip at the other side.
But it is is never a  all yellow as in the case of Sternbergia for example.
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: gote on February 05, 2009, 09:49:13 AM
Gagea gives me a bad concience.
I have any amount of minima and a fair amount of lutea growing in the grass and elsewhere.
Last years I promised to send bulbs so I potted some up to send them later when dormant - and could not find the pots again :(
To find them dormant in the soil is nearly impossible. They are so tiny.
Would those who want any from me please remind me again. preferably in April. I will give it another try.
The pics are lutea and minima.
Göte
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Rogan on February 05, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
Gagea reminds me so much of some of our Hypoxidaceae, e.g. Hypoxis,Empodium and others, but I suppose the resemblance is only superficial...

Thanks for the lovely photos though!
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: TC on February 05, 2009, 11:37:49 AM
I came across this Gagea during the on-going scanning of my slides.  It was taken somewhere in the Akamis peninsula in Cyprus in January 1996

Gagea julae.
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Oron Peri on February 05, 2009, 01:30:43 PM
Gote,

I think the Gagea on your first photo is G. fistulosa, it is quite easy to distinguish this species by its single, triangular leaf which is hollow.
Do you know the origin of your plant?
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: TC on February 05, 2009, 02:29:23 PM
All I know is that I took the picture in the Akamis peninsula in Cyprus in January 1996.
I used CollinHarper's "Mediterranean Wild Flowers" for identification.

Although no picture is shown of G. julae, it is described under reference 2211 - "sepals not more than 10mm long,with a broad greenish stripe on the outside.  Garrigue, on damp hill slopes, moist rock crevices.  Cyprus endemic. Flowering season February/April."
This was a tiny little flower.  I had to use a 60mm macro lens to get a decent picture.

G. fistulosa is described under 2105.  " stem hairless".Flowers 23-35mm. May/June.  Spain eastwards to Italy and Sicily.
This is a much larger plant than julae.

If you look at my picture, you will see that the stem is hairy.

G. fistulosa would appear to be wrong from location, flowering season, hairless stem and size.

I would stress that my knowledge is based on my I.D. book and I am not familiar with the species.  I had never even heard of it until we came across it in the wild.   
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: gote on February 05, 2009, 02:48:53 PM
It grows wild here in mid-Sweden Oron,
As far as I know, the closest localities for fistulosa would be 1000 km south of here.
The only Swedish one I could mistake it for, would be pratense and that one is not known from this area.
I am pretty sure about the name
Göte
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Oron Peri on February 05, 2009, 04:30:01 PM
Tom, sorry for the confusion, I was referring to the photo Gote have posted.
Your Gagea is indeed G. guliae, an endemic species of Cyprus.

Gote, what you say is very intresting, if you can, please next time it flowers, cut a leaf horizontally to see if it is hollow.
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: gote on February 05, 2009, 04:56:43 PM
I will try Oron, but if you want it to happen you should perhaps remind me around May 1st.
Göte
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 05, 2009, 06:30:19 PM
There was a colony near the King's Park, Stirling, until someone digging out to put a poly tunnel onto their plot dumped the soil on top of it. >:(
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: TC on February 05, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
My apologies Oron.  If I had read your posting carefully, I would have seen that it was addressed to Göte.  Anyway , it's nice to know that I had identified it correctly,
Title: Re: Gagea
Post by: Yann on February 25, 2017, 08:49:07 PM
Gagea fibrosa, an easy one
Title: Re: Gagea 2017
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 09, 2017, 02:30:58 PM
Gagea fibrosa, an easy one
And seven months after yours, Yann,
it is in flower in our garden (well, in a pot actually ;D )
cheers
fermi
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