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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Oron Peri on January 08, 2009, 11:38:11 AM
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Edit from Maggi : I'm opening this thread for fancy foliage, as a result of a comment in the Muscari thread.... I will copy the relevant post and photo here ....... and move other posts across....
From Thread: Muscari http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2883.15
....where a plant was described as having curly leaves which were thought to have been caused by a virus......
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Quote from: Paul T on Today at 10:15:57 AM
Arthur,
The leaves on mine I wouldn't think of as virused.... they are decidedly curled, but then so are a lot of plants of many genus (think Albuca spiralis etc), and a great blue-grey to them. Those to me are a feature, not a detrimental aspect. And I adore the colour of the flower, which is unlike any other Muscari I have found at this stage (not that I have a huge collection by any means).
Oron Peri replied.....
Paul
I agree with you that curled leaves are not always virused,
Many species, mainly those that grow in the desert adapted this characteristic, probably in order to minimise exposure of leaf surface to the backing sun.
attached M. filiforme, often with curly leaf.
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Oron,
I would love to collect more plants with curled or spiralled leaves, as the leaves last for so much longer than the flowers in general.
In this case you should add these too:
Urginea undulata
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and Pancratium sickenbergeri !!!
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Paul T. replies to Oron.....
Oron,
I'll have to keep that one in mind if I ever see it. Very, very cool leaves and great flowers. I would love to collect more plants with curled or spiralled leaves, as the leaves last for so much longer than the flowers in general.
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Fantastic leaves! Enough to make you want to weep... This is Moraea pritzeliana (syn. Gynandriris) in the Hantam mountains, Northern Cape:
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three of each, please...
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These plants are amazing, have never seen anything like them before, am starting to think I have lived my life inside a paper bag!! :)
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Another one that belongs here: Tulipa agenensis ssp. sharonensis
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Fantastic! Does anyone know of any curly-leaved species that are likely to be hardy outside in Norway? (Minimum winter temperature is usually around -12 C where I live.)
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Someone now needs to show Galanthus ?gracilis 'Corkscrew'
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Here is Cyrtanthus smithiae from the Eastern Cape
Gerd
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What fabulous leaves - some of these look like they should do well with the arils. Time to start a list of species with curled and twisted leaves now to keep near the computer.
Thanks so much everyone who has posted so far. Look forward to seeing more.
Pat T
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Here is Cyrtanthus smithiae from the Eastern Cape
Gerd
Gerd,
that's a fine looking flower even if it didn't have swirly foliage!
cheers
fermi
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I am glad my comment on the leaves of Muscari 'Valerie Finnis' has resulted in such a wonderful array of plants - and more to come I am sure. My comment meant to say that it never blooms with leaves that are perfect - in fact they start to go over before the flower is fully out, thereby spoiling an otherwise excellent plant. Virused was perhaps a step too far.
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Oron,
I've just seen the pictures of Urginea undulata and Pancratium sickenbergeri !!! I would love some of both. That Urginea is probably even more impressive as I would imagine that those leaves are not small either, so they'd be rather noticeable. I will definitely have to keep an eye out for the Urginea undulata, that is for sure. Thanks for the pictures, and to those others who have posted more since.
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I love that tulip - I need at least three of those! ;)
Here's another one of my favorites: Gethyllis villosus - lurking in the shade of a boulder in the Great Karoo near the little town of Loxton.
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Wow Rogan that is an amazing one,
certainly not recommended for someone that suffer from Arachnophobia ;)
Thanks for showing it.
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Not exactly with the same degree of curliness factor as that last one, but I've always fancied Mark Mc Donough's Curly Swirly Onions, in particular Allium spirale (in the middle of the page) and the wide-leaved forms of Allium nutans
http://www.plantbuzz.com/Allium/Gallery/curly/curly_swirly_onions.htm
(http://www.plantbuzz.com/Allium/Gallery/curly/curly_swirly_onions.htm)
Any ideas about how to get hold of some of these would be welcome...
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Gosh. How do you get hold of some of these curly-wurlies? :o
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This one is a bulbous plant despite its appearance...
Bongardia chrysogonum.
Leaves often are stunning, particularly when young.
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Here is Cyrtanthus smithiae from the Eastern Cape
Gerd
Gerd,
very lovely and with twisted leaves. Is it now in flower?
Do you keep in your cold house?
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Here is Cyrtanthus smithiae from the Eastern Cape
Gerd
Gerd,
very lovely and with twisted leaves. Is it now in flower?
Do you keep in your cold house?
Thank you, Armin. The pic is from summer 2008.
The bulbs are in the basement now (dry and cold).
Gerd
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Hey that Gethyllis would make a lovely brooch if it could be copied in silver, the hairs might be problematic though. I has certainly brightened up my grey day, -2C now and it was -5C in the greenhouse last night. It has hovered around that for over a week now, it will be interesting to see what succumbs.
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I thought it could be knitted by a skillled knitter, in pastel coloured, finest angora wool. :D
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Here is Gethyllis linearis, without flower :
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/84/35/03/img_7110.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=280&u=11843503)
And Drosera erythrorhiza, carnivorous foliage for tuberous sundew !
(http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/11/84/35/03/img_2913.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=357&u=11843503)
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Identify, please.
Greece, Khalkidiki, near sea beach
Photo Roland Tsandekidis
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WONDERFULL Yuri !!!!
I would suggest Ornithogalum sp. but I really hope someone will be able to identify it !!!
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Another photo with bulb
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It is very similar to Ornithogalum neurostegium but I'm not sure it extands to Greece?
If someone has the Flora Graeca it would help.
the color, shape of the leaves and the existence of hairs make me think of that.
Another thought is a form of O. fimbriatum.
???
Any way the curley, blueish color leaves appear in many hot coastal and desertic areas bulbs, there are also a few Allium sp. with similar leaves.
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Wow! Lovely foliage! Who needs flowers? 8) Hopefully we shall see more of this plant, and perhaps seed in the Seed Exchange?
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Yuri,
The background lichen is just as fascinating as the leaves.
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Seems to be growing in amongst Polytrichum moss, and the white lichen could be a Cladonia sp.?
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Identify, please.
Greece, Khalkidiki, near sea beach
Photo Roland Tsandekidis
The mystery resolved. It is an Ornithogalum:
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/16061.html
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Fred and Yuri,
I'd be pleased to be growing any of those you photographed. The leaves are just so wonderful.
Thanks for the pics.
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Not exactly curled or spiralled, but with perfect symmetry: Drosera aliciae flourishing in a bog in the southern Cape.
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Lovely, Rogan. I want to get back into carnivorous plants. I used to have a few a while back, but want to get a collection together again one of these days (hopefully not too distant). Thanks for the perfect picture! ;D
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An eye-opening ::) ::) ::), mind-boggling :o :o :o :o thread - what amazing foliage on all the plants posted - is this where the idea for curly decoration on presents came from ;) Nature really is the great inventor of ideas 8)
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I keyed to Ornithogalum atticum. What does the Russian text says?
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I want to get back into carnivorous plants.
I'll bet the carnivorous plants are already licking their lips in anticipation. In order not to damage them, remember to take off your glasses first. ;D
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I keyed to Ornithogalum atticum. What does the Russian text says?
It is the site where the plant was photographed.
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Geissorhiza corrugata foliage is rather curly.
cheers
fermi
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How cute are they, Fermi!! Adorable. Not one I have seen before. Thanks. 8)
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What fun! Presumably they spring back if accidentally trodden on ;D
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Do you play a flute to get them to dance like that Fermi?
... ;)a really fun plant
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A delightful species Fermi. Who needs flowers? but, in case you do, have you seen it flower. What colour, size?
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I got some seed from silverhill this spring, I must go and check if it has germinated yet. It would be great to see in real life. I presume Feri it likes dry Australian conditions not really Scottish ones :( never mind worth a try. In the silverhills catalogue it has yellow flowers. Do you grow any of the other geissorhiza Fermi ? In a mad optimistic moment I ordered a lot of them.
Susan
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A delightful species Fermi. Who needs flowers? but, in case you do, have you seen it flower. What colour, size?
Lesley,
I'd never really noticed how curly the foliage is. The flower is a lovely butter yellow ( I posted pics last spring)
I got some seed from silverhill this spring, I must go and check if it has germinated yet. It would be great to see in real life. I presume Fermi it likes dry Australian conditions not really Scottish ones :( never mind worth a try. In the silverhills catalogue it has yellow flowers. Do you grow any of the other geissorhiza Fermi ? In a mad optimistic moment I ordered a lot of them.
Susan
Hi Susan,
I also got mine as seed from SilverHills - many years ago; the corms stay fairly small and can easily be kept in a pot to keep them dry over summer. The pic is of some I decided to try out in a raised bed but I won't be watering it over the summer.
I only have a couple of other species of Geissorhiza, one that is supposedly G. splendidissima and another which is most likely G. aspera.
I like most of the spring flowering South African "bulbs"! ;D
cheers
fermi
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Must check this out, as anything that can be grown in the greenhouse in a pot and kept dry over the summer would be ideally suited to my regime. :)
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One that definitely fits this topic, and the other hopefully may be of interest too...
Albuca spiralis, with it's coiled leaves (and buds just emerging at the bottom)
Lachenalis unicolor seedlings, but were open pollinated a few years back when I had a decent Lach collection, so could be influenced by anything. Love the pustulated leaves. ;D
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.