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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Paul T on January 02, 2009, 10:53:13 AM
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Howdy All,
Thought I'd open with a couple of photos I have taken yesterday and today....
These two Liliums have just opened.
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Lilium 'Apricot Reflections' x 'African Queen' is flowering for the second year. Seed sown many years ago and survived the neglect. ::)
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Lilium 'Yellow Bride'
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And a Datura (I've forgotten the species name) that is now in it's third season for me. The flowers open at night, hence the use of the flash. The colour has come out slightly stronger in the picture than it really is.... it is a white flushed with lavender, whereas in the pic it looks more strongly lavender. The other pic I took brings it out as pure white, which is also not accurate. This shows the whole plant so I used this one.
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Stunning photos, Paul.
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Paul, I think it's Datura inoxia.
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Arne,
That sounds about right I think. The flowers really are stunning, even if only very short-lived. Nice citrusy "clean" perfume to it too, not cloying like some night bloomers. 8)
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A couple of things flowering in the Rock Garden:
Dianthus amurensis,
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And an Australian native, Ptilotus spathulatus,
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Looks like the Ptilotus is doing well for you. I've only ever seen it at work, and once for sale at a local nursery. I was worried it was too touchy and didn't buy it. Is it at all picky for you? I love the flowerheads, particularly in a good clump like in your picture. Great stuff!! 8)
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Howdy All,
Some pics from the last few days.....
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Lilium henryi has just opened today!! I just love it.
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Lilium 'Leslie Woodriffe' has opened it's first flower today as well, but sun was at the wrong angle to photograph it normally. This pic is with the sun shining through the flower that had opened today. This really is a stunning variety.... does positively brilliantly for me every year.
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One of the Urginea maritima (or is it Urginea maritimum, I can never remember :-\) in my garden. I have two from two different sources, and they flower a couple of weeks apart and differ slightly in flowers and leaves. If anyone is interested I can post a pic of the second one when it opens in a fortnight or so, or I can dig up a pic from last year if you want.
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A Hebe whose name escapes me right now.
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A double Hydrangea that I bought on the weekend... nice rounded petals, with almost a bicolor effect. Will be particularly lovely when it is an established plant I think.
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Once gain stunning plants :)
Just to keep up the Kiwi end of this here is some things growing nicely at the moment.
Actually not too much is flowering right now but here are a couple of plants taken yesterday from my garden.
Celmisia mackaui This plant has very purple leaves and no fluff (tomentum) under the leaves. It grows on Banks Peninsula near Christchurch at low altitudes on cliffs and banks. Its quite rare in the wild but common in cultivation. It self seeds in my garden and even the cotyledons are purple. Sadly my photo doesn't do it justice as the camera wanted the flower to be exposed correctly and not the leaves (usually the opposite happens)
Leucogenes neglecta Like all the species of leucogenies I grow, flowers easily each year. This species is from Malborough and was only fairly recently named hence the neglecta specific name.
Raoulia mammilaris despite the alternating periods of torrential rain and stinking hot this plant continues to grow in my makeshift alpine house. Leucogenes grandiceps in the background: This plant did not flower this year, whereas the plants of the same age in pots or in the open garden did. Its also very fluffy and less compact than its friends outside the alpine house.
Helichysum coralloides This species is growing quite happily in the open garden and flowered really well this year.
Paul T: The Hebe looks like Hebe speciosa or one of its hybrids at least one of the North Island species that get upset when we have a frost here.
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Wow !!!! Stunning plants Paul and Ross !!
Thanks for the warmth the pix show... we need that !
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Here are a few flowers from my garden on New Years Day 2009
Philesia magellanica
Paris polyphylla
Allium species col. Iran
I would be grateful if anyone could identify the Allium species.
It flowers early summer and by the time it flowers, the leaves have
died back. It is about 40cm tall. Could it be Allium rubellum?
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Here is a larger image of the Allium species which I hope someone may identify.
Thanks,
Otto
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Otto,
Great pics. That is a wonderful clump of Paris.... so many flowers. I love the Philesia magellanica, something I haven't come across before. Reminds me of Lapageria, in flower form at least. Always nice to see something new. ;D
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Otto, your Philesia magellanica looks great. I've never seen so many flowers in such a small spot at once. Good job! :D
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Otto, your Philesia magellanica looks great. I've never seen so many flowers in such a small spot at once. Good job! :D
Danke Arne,
not the whole patch of the Philesia in my garden , circa 2 square meters , flowered as freely as the part pictured on the Forum -I think because it receives full sun and water.
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Howdy All
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And a Datura (I've forgotten the species name) that is now in it's third season for me. The flowers open at night, hence the use of the flash. The colour has come out slightly stronger in the picture than it really is.... it is a white flushed with lavender, whereas in the pic it looks more strongly lavender. The other pic I took brings it out as pure white, which is also not accurate. This shows the whole plant so I used this one.
Paul,
I think your Datura is D. stramonium.
It is native to S. America but has inveded many parts of the world.
Make sure no one eats the seeds!!!
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Oron, it isn't. D. stramonium has got jagged leafs.
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I think because it receives full sun and water.
That's interesting. I thought it needs a shady place, without much sun. Is the air humidity there high?
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Arnie,
I agree with you , it looks more like D. inoxia also by Paul's description that it is ' white flushed with lavander' any way a farther check on the fruit will help to identify it.
For your question, D. stramonium has adapted perfectly in the Mediterranean, in full sun even in areas that recive snow in winter.
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Here in Germany D. stramonium also runs to seed. You can see it often in fields where it grows to large plants that seed freely. :-\
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In case Otto isn't watching now, his climate is FAR from highly humid. Melbourne and surrounds, even in the mountains, has up to low 40sC at this time of year and can be bush-fire dry! But anyway, I think he made a lot of paper cut-out flowers and stuck them on the plant to photograph it. NO-ONE gets that many flowers on Philesia!!! ;D
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In case Otto isn't watching now, his climate is FAR from highly humid. Melbourne and surrounds, even in the mountains, has up to low 40sC at this time of year and can be bush-fire dry! But anyway, I think he made a lot of paper cut-out flowers and stuck them on the plant to photograph it. NO-ONE gets that many flowers on Philesia!!! ;D
We do know of Otto's skills with cake decorating, of course....... ;)
Ian and I are green with envy to think of Otto's 2 square meters of Philesia... it is a plant we are both very fond of . What a great grower that fellow Otto is ....more power to his elbow 8) (or should that be "back" ???)
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You're right as usual Maggi, they're made of icing. That would fully explain their 3-dimensional look. ;D So pleased Otto that you don't mind a little laugh at your expense, especially since you've offered me Narc. viridiflorus. Dear man, I'll email you privately.
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Maggi,
was the new [latest] photo of you on the Forum taken in your late teenage years ?
Gorgeous ! despite what Lesley says , yes it reaches 40C on one or two days in summer here , but being in a temperate Rainforrest area at 500 meters altitude , it is always3 to 5 degrees cooler up here and we also have more humidity.
Lesley ,"fair dinkum ", there were that many flowers on the Philesia ,Iwould not have
the patience or skill to do paper cut-outs.
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Dearest Otto, you are TOO kind.... but I thank you VERY much! :-* :-* :-*
I can only imagine the joy of having a Philesia such as yours. I know that much of your garden is on a slope... is the Philesia growing on the slope? I have an idea that it would enjoy such a position and that it would be particularly beautiful in that place because it would allow the flowers to hang well to be seen.
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Otto, your Philesia magellanica is absolutely beautiful, I have never seen one before.
Are they related to camelias?
I'm totally ignorant of so many of the plants I see in these forums. :(
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Philesia magellanica is the only member of the genus Philesia and belongs like Lapageria rosea to the Philesiaceae family but I don't know if they are distantly related to camellias, although they have the same preferences for e.g. the type of soil.
Does anyone know about Luzuriagaceae and their affinity to Philesiaceae? Do they all belong to Liliales?
Maggi, lucky you. There are so many nurseries in the UK selling those special plants. :-\
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Maggi,
was the new [latest] photo of you on the Forum taken in your late teenage years ?
Gorgeous !
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My golly, that man is a crawler!My golly, that man is a prince among men ... edit by guess who?
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Maggi , yes the Philesia is growing on a slope in my garden, and is slowly invading and "strangling"some dwarf Rhododendron species, but luckily my nice neighbour
Tim Orpin has 5 hectares af garden, so some has found a home there.
Maggipie , I am not a Botanist, but as far as i know , Camellia is in the Family
Theaceae, and not related to Philesia .-what you drink at breakfast .
Arne , I also grow the bigeneric hybrid between Lapageria and Philesia , a modest
climber , not as vigorous as Lapageria , after 5 years it has not flowered for me , maybe
it is not worth growing ? Luzuriaga radicans ,with it's starshaped , white flowers is a
modest beauty, but again too rampant in my garden , creeps around and if there is a shrub or fence nearby will climb up 3 meters high.
I did not know that Luzuriaga has it's own Family now , it used to be in Philesiaceae.
Lesley dear , if you would change your photo to one taken when you were a teenager , I am sure compliments would be streeming in from around the globe !
Otto.
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Otto, there's a hybrid between them? I didn't know that. Do you know how old your plant is? Lapageria for example takes about 7 years to flower for its first time. May your plant is just too young to flower?
You are right, Luzuriaga also belongs to Philesiaceae but there was one website which showed it belonging to its own family ??? .
Does Luzuriaga really climb that high? :D
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Lesley dear , if you would change your photo to one taken when you were a teenager , I am sure compliments would be streeming in from around the globe !
Otto.
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Speak for yourself Otto. I DO get compliments streaming in from around the globe. Frequently!
So far as photos are concerned, between the ages of 10 and 60ish, I managed to avoid any at all, so there aren't many to choose from.
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Speak for yourself Otto. I DO get compliments streaming in from around the globe. Frequently!
So far as photos are concerned, between the ages of 10 and 60ish, I managed to avoid any at all, so there aren't many to choose from.
Well, it so happens I have THIS one....
Lesley, aged around 11 years...
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Speak for yourself Otto. I DO get compliments streaming in from around the globe. Frequently!
So far as photos are concerned, between the ages of 10 and 60ish, I managed to avoid any at all, so there aren't many to choose from.
Well, it so happens I have THIS one....
Lesley, aged around 11 years...
Hasn't changed much at all! ;D It's all in the eyes!
cheers
fermi
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Oh Hell Maggi, what did you want to do THAT for? It's been all down hill since then. :) On reflection I must have been 12 or 13 as the Napier tartan was school uniform at Timaru Girls' High school.
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Youth is wasted on the young Lesley :P
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Very true David, but perhaps that's why we have a second childhood - or some of us do - so that we can take advantage of all we've learned as we aged. ;D
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Philesia? If i was a dog i bet my tail woud wag each time i hearthat name :) :)
Philesia magellanica is the only member of the genus Philesia and belongs like Lapageria rosea to the Philesiaceae family but I don't know if they are distantly related to camellias, although they have the same preferences for e.g. the type of soil.
Arne, Camelia is a dicot and Philesiaceae is classified onto the monocot clade, what makes you think they are related ???
Well at some point they could be related, but those relations are very distant, like a lion and a octopus.
Some authors merge Philesiaceae onto the Liliaceae family, and treat it like a subfamily (Philesioideae). The same thing with Luziriaga (Luzuriagoideae). I personally do not care that much with taxonomy, cause that wont take these plants their unique beauty!
Very true David, but perhaps that's why we have a second childhood - or some of us do - so that we can take advantage of all we've learned as we aged. ;D
That's true Lesley, there is always something that makes us feel young!!!
But what matters the most is the inside, and not the appearances :D
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But what matters the most is the inside, and not the appearances :D
And just as well, too. ;D
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A Moraea i found here in bloom today.
Unfortunately i have no idea of it's species name.
Cheers dave.
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Dave,
It's Herbertia lahue. Lovely little thing, isn't it? They last for such a short time, but you get so many flowers over such a long period if you remove the seedpods as soon as possible after the flower closes. That way they don't waste effort on seed, and produce more flowers. Depends whether you want seed of course.... 'cause if you do then you'd better leave the seedpods on. ;)
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And from South America, not South Africa.
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Ha so that's why i couldn't id the species name of the Moraea .
Thanks Paul--i've just arrived home from a trip over to Fiordland and will head out and deadhead the Herbertia before i start formating the 170 pics i took today.
Cheers dave.
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Don't know where to put this, but as it wa seen in TV in New Zealand I put it here.
Maggi will know where it belongs.
I saw it in Holland on the news, and LOL...
Bad escape attempt caught on CCTV
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/bad-escape-attempt-caught-cctv-2455367/video?vid=2455450 (http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/bad-escape-attempt-caught-cctv-2455367/video?vid=2455450)
PS.
You will need to open the volume button.
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Obviously the criminal fraternity in New Zealand are just as stupid as they are here,I suppose that's why they got caught in the first place.
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I can't make the link work properly for me but no matter, we've seen it on TV news a number of times and had a good laugh. One newsreader said he was putting it on as his screensaver so he'd get a laugh every time he turned his computer on. What idiots. ???
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the report we got was that when they were charged with escaping one pleaded guilty and the other one didn't!
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I have been remiss in not posting some pics, so here are a few from our local AGS meeting 2 weeks ago when a local lily grower, Adrian Van Kamp, came to talk about propagating bulbs.
Here's the display bench of Liliums,
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And some of the Asiatic Liliums,
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Aurelians
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A brilliant yellow trumpet
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And a bloom from Viv Condon's "Lake Tulare", an American lilium hybrid bought from Glenbrook Bulb Farm in Tassie,
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And to prove that we actually did some hands-on work here are a couple of our members (known to some on the forum) chopping up daffodils!
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cheers
fermi
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Yay,it's Cynthia and Otto! I hope the propagation area was a good long way from the kitchen! I'd be a bit dubious about the onion soup for lunch ::)
Some good lilies there.... love the HUGE one in the first pic...... the yellow one with a coloured edgin, in front ot the taller yellow spray.... 8)
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Yay,it's Cynthia and Otto! I hope the propagation area was a good long way from the kitchen! I'd be a bit dubious about the onion soup for lunch ::)
It was an evening meeting so there was no onion soup! Just coffee and cake.
After reading Luit's comments about the bulb industry on another thread I'm wondering if we should not have been wearing gloves!
Some good lilies there.... love the HUGE one in the first pic...... the yellow one with a coloured edgin, in front ot the taller yellow spray.... 8)
Some of those were Adrian's own hybrids; I think the huge yellow with the darker edge
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was an Oriental x Aurelian hybrid, but I may be wrong, perhaps Otto or Cynthia remembers?
cheers
fermi
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Thanks for the close-up, Fermi. It's a big flower.... just love those over-sized lily flowers 8)
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Strangely enough, despite of ,or maybe because of, the heat one of the Indian Bean Trees, Catalpa bignonioides has come into flower again (having been in full bloom in November).
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In its shade is a couple of Lilum "Black Beauty", the cross between L.henryi and L. speciosum,
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it's the only Lilium to perform consistently for us and always at its best at this hot time of the year.
cheers
fermi
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Lovely to see Cynthia and Otto hard at work. :)
The big yellows are very nice and I like that one with the brownish edge.
That one pleaded guilty while the other didn't (perhaps he just went along for the ride?) proves they're stupid, as Michael said. Probably that's a comforting thought.
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It was an evening meeting so there was no onion soup! Just coffee and cake.
After reading Luit's comments about the bulb industry on another thread I'm wondering if we should not have been wearing gloves!
cheers
fermi
;D ;D
When thinking of 'Just coffee and cake', the bulbs are the most poisonous part of Narcissus! ::) ::) ::)
Cheers to you Fermi ;D ;D
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Paul has been very quiet of late. Are you OK Paul, hope you are coping with the heat?
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Only just found this thread but that Philesia is fantastic Otto. Does it always flower this well. I have a plant about 18 ins across (40cm) and it hardly gives any flowers at all. What is the secret??
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Fermi, lovely set of lilies. My eye was taken by the very good purple coloured on, top right of the first photograph, but they all pale in my eyes in comparison with the catalpa, a lovely tree.
Paddy
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Yes, Paddy, that purple lily is a good one.... well, I'd not say no to any, I suppose!
The Catalpa is a thing of beauty.... would it grow with you, Paddy? I'm trying to think if I know anyone with it up here ???
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Maggi,
Despite my admiration for the catalpa I have never tried it as I have always imagined it would not do well. There is a wonderful planting along the fortification walls in Lucca, close to Pisa. Even when they have gone to seed they look wonderful. I think I may go in search of seed and give it a try.
Paddy
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We have a Catalpa here in our garden and it is quite easy to grow. It is often used for avenues as standard form.
Is it really such unknown in the UK and Ireland? :o
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Paddy and Arne - The Catalpa is growing in Halifax as well. There is a large one planted as a street tree just a block up this street. And it is plant all along, where else, Oak Street. There are also plants not doing so well here with frequent die-back, they then send out massive leaves and shoots which are more prone to die-back. They are perhaps seed grown and from the southern part of its range. It is not too happy in the very cool summer areas or colder parts of Nova Scotia. In the colder part a friend grows C. koreana but it is frightfully brittle.
johnw