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Title: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: robsorchids on December 13, 2008, 10:57:24 AM
Ive been looking for a anemone centred hybrid hellebore for years, but i haven't had much luck when it comes to ordering, usually sold out.

i have been disappointed in the past with supposedly anemone centered plants only to turn out as singles, however this is common in hellebore's, you never know how well they are going to breed what you desire.

so if anyone has a division they can sell/trade me then that would be great, i dont mind what colour it is/size.

many thanks
rob
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on December 13, 2008, 11:42:43 AM
Ashwoods do mail order but the cheapest I have seen most years are from B&Q
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: ian mcenery on December 13, 2008, 12:09:41 PM
Rob I have a little seed from my own Ashwood selected plant. If you want some seed PM me
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: Paul T on December 13, 2008, 07:28:51 PM
Rob,

If you remind me around August, September next year I can send you seed from mine. I have a bunch of doubles which set seed regularly.  If you already have doubles then crossing a double and single often creates anemone centred offspring, but no idea of what percentage as I haven't looked that closely.  I find that crossing doubles often gets anemone centred too, but I would imagine that depends how much the line breeding for doubles has taken place in the parentage.  We have a whole different bunch of breeders over here than you guys over there, so probably ours have different traits to yours anyway.  I can try particular crosses for you (would need to sort this out by about June next year so I know which ones to do by hand) if you are wanting me to (i.e doubles to doubles, doubles to singles, anemone centreds to singles, doubles, or themselves, etc).  I just don't have the space to grow the seedlings unfortunately, so I tend to remove heads before seeding now if I remember to, and I get squillions (technical term that) of seedlings in my garden, including around doubles and anemone centreds etc.
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: Diane Whitehead on December 14, 2008, 07:12:12 PM
Rob,

This week I received some hellebore seeds from New Zealand, so they are fresh.
Two packets are seeds from a double purple and a purple anemone, each open-pollinated.
I can send you some if you are interested.
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: ian mcenery on December 15, 2008, 12:30:53 AM
Rob I do sow my own seed  fresh though I have germinated older seed but it can take time particularly as many donors don't always store their seed properly. I keep mine in the fridge which does improve their chances and next year if I do store any I shall take a leaf out of Kristl's book and store mine in moist vermiculite
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: maggiepie on December 15, 2008, 12:47:55 PM
Hi Rob, have you tried Elizabeth Town Hellebores in Tasmania?
They only send seed between January and March.
Here's a link to their catalogue.
You can email John from the web page and ask when the new catalogue will be ready.
I bought 15 different types in January this year and had almost 100% germination.

http://www.southcom.com.au/~hortus/catalogue.htm

The seeds have already had Warm/moist stratification, which is great, so you can sow them immediately.
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: Maggi Young on December 16, 2008, 07:39:17 PM
Rob, our Forumist, Chris Vermeire has a hellebore nursery... see here: http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/

This  is the links page from the hellebore society :
 http://www.hellebores.org/links.html....   There are lots of other hellebore growers listed on that links page... enjoy!
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: kap-horn on January 08, 2009, 02:13:54 PM
thanks maggi, so much for thinking hellebores were only a UK love!

Hello Rob,

people here in Germany are nuts for hellebores, too!  :D
For 5 years I visit with some friends hellebore nurseries in Belgium and The Netherlands and Germany.
This year we visited Ashwood, because the best plants we have seen by friends came from there.
It was great! A hard day flying to Stansted and driving to Birmingham, but it was  worth the trouble!!!
I pefer to see the plant before I buy it.

Karin
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 08, 2009, 02:28:10 PM
Karin the best airport to fly in to is Birmingham
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: Maggi Young on January 08, 2009, 03:13:08 PM
Karin the best airport to fly in to is Birmingham
Yes, but  it's not always easy to get where you want to be from where you are.... if you know what I mean!
 Since airlines are closing down lots of routes and stopping flights to and from some places altogether, this is increasingly a problem... certainly is for Aberdeen  these days  :'(
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: kap-horn on January 08, 2009, 07:17:05 PM
Yes, Maggie is right, from Cologne you can´t fly cheap to Birmingham.
Maybe we do it with our own car next year?  :)

Karin
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: Hans A. on January 09, 2009, 07:51:34 AM
Karin - for you it should be easy to go to to the Airport (Düsseldorf)-Weeze - from there there are lowcost flights to Birmingham (found oneway ticket for 2.50€ + fees for baggage :o)- perhaps a alternative.
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 09, 2009, 08:03:36 AM
Not only is this a wonderful plants forum, it's also very useful as travelagency...  ;D
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: Hans A. on January 09, 2009, 08:06:44 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 09, 2009, 01:49:02 PM
Rob you need to start checking B&Q for Hellebores later this month
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: kap-horn on January 10, 2009, 11:13:31 AM
Hans, Thank you very much for the Weeze - tipp.
Maybe 2 days , pound is low ....
 :P ::) 8)
Karin
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: kap-horn on January 10, 2009, 11:22:21 AM
Rob, friends of me found a very beautiful anemone centered Hellebore at the plant centre in Wisley - end of hellebore season and cheap.
Keep your eyes open and good luck, Karin

Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2009, 06:24:43 PM
Rob here are some mail order Hellebores at the same price as a good snowdrop
http://www.herts-hellebore.co.uk/ (http://www.herts-hellebore.co.uk/)
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2009, 06:30:52 PM
You're in luck Rob she's going you're way to the AGS Early Spring Show, Mark Hall School, First Avenue, Harlow, Essex CM17 9LR
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: maggiepie on January 22, 2009, 09:18:37 PM
Rob here are some mail order Hellebores at the same price as a good snowdrop
http://www.herts-hellebore.co.uk/ (http://www.herts-hellebore.co.uk/)

Mark, what is the price of a bad snowdrop, and is there such a thing? ;)
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2009, 11:01:28 PM
Good question.
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: johnw on January 23, 2009, 01:43:44 AM
Rob here are some mail order Hellebores at the same price as a good snowdrop
http://www.herts-hellebore.co.uk/ (http://www.herts-hellebore.co.uk/)

Mark, what is the price of a bad snowdrop ;)

£14.97.  Helen will recognize that price!

johnw
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: maggiepie on January 23, 2009, 11:32:56 AM

£14.97.  Helen will recognize that price!

John, can you give me a hint?
I must be having a senior moment :-[ :-[ :-[ :'(
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 23, 2009, 12:13:41 PM
I see Rob hasnt been to his own Hellebore subject in 7 days.  :-\
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: johnw on January 23, 2009, 12:15:55 PM
£14.97 A typical Walmart price.

johnw
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 23, 2009, 12:35:51 PM
John prices here are mostly end .49 and .99
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: maggiepie on January 23, 2009, 01:48:21 PM
John, I've never seen them at Walmart, I must have a look this year ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: mark smyth on January 23, 2009, 07:51:12 PM
Rob you should try and visit Ashwoods some February. You'll run around crazy trying to find the best.
Title: Re: wanted - anemone centered helleborus hybridus
Post by: kap-horn on January 28, 2009, 01:15:54 PM
Quote
You'll run around crazy trying to find the best

 :D ;D :o 8)

I remember it wvery well! Karin  :)
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