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Title: Ranunculus
Post by: Oron Peri on December 09, 2008, 10:30:20 AM
Making some order in my photos today reminded me of  Ranunculus cadmicus ssp. cyprius, this marvelous plant that resamble more an Hepatica or Anemone in form.

I think it has an enormous potential to be a cold frame plant, it is about 10cm in size having very nice leaf color and shiny, waxy, yellow flowers.

[may be it is allready in commerce???]

It is common at high altitudes in the Troodos mountains and appear and bloom just days after snow melts.

There are many semi double, and double forms amongst the simple ones.

I suppose in my climate it will last a quarter of an hour but for all of you in colder climate it certainly worth a try.
It growes with Crocus cyprium.

Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: mark smyth on December 09, 2008, 10:48:02 AM
That is a very nice plant. Do you grow it or did you see it on a plant holiday?
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Oron Peri on December 09, 2008, 10:50:43 AM
Mark,

I dont grow it, Just took photos.
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 09, 2008, 10:54:59 AM
Wonderfull flowers Oron !!!  :o
I wonder how long it will take before Mr Buttercup surfaces in awe...
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: mark smyth on December 09, 2008, 11:23:31 AM
Are they small plants, Oron? Did you see them in Cyprus?
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: ranunculus on December 09, 2008, 11:36:48 AM
Wonderfull flowers Oron !!!  :o
I wonder how long it will take before Mr Buttercup surfaces in awe...

NOT VERY LONG, LUC ... STILL IN AWE ...  :)
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Oron Peri on December 09, 2008, 12:34:54 PM
Are they small plants, Oron? Did you see them in Cyprus?

Yes Mark, about 10cm in height, took the photos in Cyprus, Mt Troodos 1900m, last February
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 09, 2008, 01:06:30 PM
Wonderfull flowers Oron !!!  :o
I wonder how long it will take before Mr Buttercup surfaces in awe...

NOT VERY LONG, LUC ... STILL IN AWE ...  :)

I knew you wouldn't let me down Cliff  ;D ;D ;D
But you agree it IS a beauty isn't it.  8)
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Gerdk on December 09, 2008, 03:55:17 PM
This is Ranunculus cadmicus ssp. cyprius in cultivation, flowering inside at the beginning of February.

I think it has an enormous potential to be a cold frame plant, it is about 10cm in size having very nice leaf color and shiny, waxy, yellow flowers.

Oron,
You are totally right, it is an unusual and beautiful Ranunculus species. I am not aware of a commercial source for this plant. The flowers last very long here in the north.
I never expected so fine doubles.

Gerd
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Maggi Young on December 09, 2008, 04:07:12 PM
A super plant... and flowering so early in the year. I don't think I have ever seen it offered as a plant... has it been in the seedlists?
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Oron Peri on December 09, 2008, 04:47:37 PM
Gerd

I'm happy to see that you grow it,
did you grow it from seeds?

Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Gerdk on December 09, 2008, 04:58:49 PM
A super plant... and flowering so early in the year. I don't think I have ever seen it offered as a plant... has it been in the seedlists?

Maggi, I never saw an offer.

Gerd
I'm happy to see that you grow it,
did you grow it from seeds?

Oron,
I received this species from a friend - he only told me that the origin was Cyprus.

Gerd
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: gote on December 09, 2008, 07:39:44 PM
Is there any chanse it will survive outside in a colder climate??
Göte
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 09, 2008, 08:32:35 PM
Here's an interesting Ranunculus hybrid. Any guesses?

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Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: mark smyth on December 09, 2008, 08:44:46 PM
One web site is listed seeds but he doesnt know if they are reliable or how old they are
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Oron Peri on December 10, 2008, 03:54:57 PM
Here's an interesting Ranunculus hybrid. Any guesses?

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Lesley,
it looks to me as a cross [not hybrid] between the red and yellow forms of R. asiaticus but if you have more details they might be of a help, leaves might do it too...
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 10, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
Hi Oran.

I promise you, it IS a hybrid, between R. cortusaefolius (seed) and a red garden form of
R. asiaticus.. Here's the plant it came from.

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R. cortusaefolius seems to take just about anything, including our gorgeous R. lyallii, the Mt Cook buttercup, giving richly cream-coloured seedlings. I'm even trying it with pollen from R. godleyanus. If it has taken, God may forgive me but the Conservation Dept won't. >:( The plant pictured here is sterile.
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: ranunculus on December 10, 2008, 08:55:17 PM
Oh Lesley,
Isn't R. godleyanus beautiful enough for you?   ;)
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Miriam on January 29, 2009, 04:58:34 PM
Ranunculus asiaticus, very common and well-known plant in Israel because of its attractive large red flowers. There are also forms in yellow and orange.
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Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lesley Cox on January 29, 2009, 07:58:02 PM
GORGEOUS!!!
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Post by: ashley on February 10, 2009, 01:42:31 PM
Ranunculus creticus, under glass & safe from slugs but with a touch of botrytis unfortunately.
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 10, 2009, 08:09:31 PM
But still lovely Ashley. Is it botanically close to R. cortusaefolius?
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Gerdk on February 11, 2009, 07:09:08 AM
But still lovely Ashley. Is it botanically close to R. cortusaefolius?

Yes, it is (lovely and allied). Both are in section Ranunculastrum (together with R. asiaticus)

Gerd
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 11, 2009, 08:24:38 PM
That would explain why hybrids can be made between RR. cortusaefolius and asiaticus. But how about R. lyalii. I don't imagine that's in the same section but it will hybridize with R. cortusaefolius. 
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Gerdk on February 12, 2009, 06:23:59 AM
That would explain why hybrids can be made between RR. cortusaefolius and asiaticus.[/i]


Lesley,
This strange hybridisation was the reason for me to look for the section of both.
The NZ Ranunculus belong to sections Chrysanthe and Epirotes.
It isn't mentioned to which Ranunculus lyalli belongs.

There is a comprehensive review of the Genus Ranunculus in The Rock Garden beginning in Vol. 77 (7 parts) by Alastair McKelvie.

Gerd
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Oron Peri on February 12, 2009, 02:28:14 PM
Dew to the high temperatures R. asiaticus is already in flower in some areas.
Here is the common red form and the much less common Orange form.

Miriam, have you noticed your flower is a double form...[10 petals]
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Oron Peri on February 12, 2009, 02:46:28 PM
Another species a bit early this year

Ranunculus millefolius ssp hierusolymitanus
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lvandelft on February 12, 2009, 04:03:25 PM
What a beautiful subspecies Oron, really one to try cultivating!
R. millefoliatus are normally easy to propagate.
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Gerdk on February 12, 2009, 07:30:19 PM
Luit,
Ranunculus millefoliatus is a buttercup which is more than easy to propagate. It took me 3 years to get rid of this weed. Although a nice plant it spreads around awfully by means of seeds and pieces of the rhizome.
R. millefolius seems to be somewhat more civilized.

Gerd
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 12, 2009, 08:18:36 PM
Thanks Gerd, I'll have a look. My lastest issue of The Rock Garden is Vol 31, No 122. Do you mean No 77? (Yes, you do. :))
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lesley Cox on February 12, 2009, 08:19:33 PM
The R. asiaticus with their big black centres are very beautiful, so much better than the so-called "garden" forms.
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2009, 09:07:57 PM
Luit,
Ranunculus millefoliatus is a buttercup which is more than easy to propagate. It took me 3 years to get rid of this weed. Although a nice plant it spreads around awfully by means of seeds and pieces of the rhizome.
R. millefolius seems to be somewhat more civilized.

Gerd

I was searching for something else in the old forum and found this page which has quite a few assorted Ranunculus.... and ranunculaceae photos..... http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/283/9582.html
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lvandelft on February 12, 2009, 09:52:37 PM
Luit,
Ranunculus millefoliatus is a buttercup which is more than easy to propagate. It took me 3 years to get rid of this weed. Although a nice plant it spreads around awfully by means of seeds and pieces of the rhizome.
R. millefolius seems to be somewhat more civilized.

Gerd
Gerd, next time I better use my glasses :-[ :-[ ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Gerdk on February 13, 2009, 06:20:44 AM
Luit,
Ranunculus millefoliatus is a buttercup which is more than easy to propagate. It took me 3 years to get rid of this weed. Although a nice plant it spreads around awfully by means of seeds and pieces of the rhizome.
R. millefolius seems to be somewhat more civilized.

Gerd
Gerd, next time I better use my glasses :-[ :-[ ;D ;D

Luit,
I posted the remarks about R. millefoliatus as a warning - it is one of the plants which are very very clingy.

Gerd
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Lvandelft on February 13, 2009, 06:40:13 AM
Luit,
I posted the remarks about R. millefoliatus as a warning - it is one of the plants which are very very clingy.
Gerd
Gerd, I did not know this. We used to grow it in pots for selling to gardencenters and never had
planted stockplants out.
It was a good seller, because a nice pot full and compact grown with flowers and buds is attractive.
Must be 30 years ago or even longer and I know we exported them to Switzerland and Germany
and achieved good prices. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: Gerdk on February 13, 2009, 06:52:56 AM
Luit,
I see you like this plant. If I'll find remaining ones I'll send them back to you
for experimental purposes!   ;D

Gerd
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: ashley on March 21, 2009, 02:23:51 PM
A wild R. ficaria with purple-splashed foliage which appeared in the garden.
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: David Nicholson on March 21, 2009, 07:03:27 PM
Careful Ashley, you'll get Cliff trembling ;D
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: ranunculus on March 21, 2009, 07:45:57 PM
My apologies, David ... R. ficaria does nothing for me ...  :o
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: David Nicholson on March 21, 2009, 07:49:07 PM
You need greater stimulation Cliff? ???
Title: Re: Ranunculus
Post by: ashley on March 21, 2009, 08:42:34 PM
R. ficaria does nothing for me ... 

Nor me particularly.  Of course better dark-leaved forms are in cultivation already but I hadn't come across one before.
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