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Title: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Giles on October 08, 2008, 04:34:16 PM
A word of caution fellow Forumists, when you are buying some of those wonderful seeds.....
.....it is illegal to send bank notes through the post to The Czech Republic.(even by registered post).
I didn't know this until just recently and had had no problems before sending 20 euros for a few packets.


Given that my bank charges £20 to do a direct money transfer, those seeds are going to prove expensive
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Maggi Young on October 08, 2008, 05:58:40 PM
I have found that PayPal is a handy way to send money around the world in small doses. Not sure that it works for the Czech Republic,  though  ???
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: mark smyth on October 08, 2008, 08:01:52 PM
It must only be USA to Cz. I havent had problems in the past sending money
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Tony Willis on October 08, 2008, 08:10:58 PM
Mark I did not know that sunny Northants was in America,must swat up on my geography.

here is an excerp from the Post Office website

Sending cash abroad
Due to local customs regulations, economic controls and security issues, many countries do not allow cash to be sent through their postal networks.  Royal Mail Cannot accept liability for loss or damage to mail items containing cash which are sent to these destinations. Currently, the following countries all prohibit the sending of cash:

Armenia, Australia, Belarus, Bolivia, Botswana, Bulgaria, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, China (excluding Hong Kong and Macao), Comoros, Cuba, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Hungary, India, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Laos (People’s Democratic Republic of), Latvia, Lebanon, Lithuania, Malawi, Montenegro, Namibia, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Rwanda, Serbia, Saudi Arabia, Swaziland, Tajikistan, Uganda, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: David Nicholson on October 08, 2008, 08:24:15 PM
As far as I know there are absolutely no restrictions on sending money, either cash or notes of any denomination, to Devon where all donations will be gratefully received. I await my pleasure ;D
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: ChrisB on October 08, 2008, 08:40:49 PM
Typical Yorkshireman eh?  ;D
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: mark smyth on October 08, 2008, 08:47:18 PM
oops I was watching Big Cat Live, preparing a lecture and going through the forum. I thought it was Guff who was asking :-[
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 08, 2008, 09:21:02 PM
We are not even allowed to send money through the mail WITHIN New Zealand - or lottery tickets or raffle tickets or anything paper that could be WORTH money (we do it though). How stupid. After all, we can send cheques! Since I send each of my grandchildren money for their birthdays (gifts at Christmas) it travels in the form of a banknote, well wrapped in opaque paper. But if lost, normal postal insurance which covers loss of a parcel, for instance, is invalid.
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: gote on October 08, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
Well
I have been sending money to some of the countries mentioned. :-X
I use crisp banknotes hidden in a double postcard in an envelope.
It has always arrived safely. Only a few countries have perfect postal cencorship. :-\
My bank charged me the equivalent of 30$ for sending 100 so I rather take the risk.
I think that we must make a distinction between two cases:
#1. The postal services refuse to take responsibility for valuables lost in the mail
#2. Command-economies trying to keep track of every penny.
Postal little popes (Swedish expression) often try to make #1 look like #2.
It probably makes them feel more important. >:(
Göte
 
 
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Giles on October 08, 2008, 10:58:08 PM
I gather they x-ray a proportion of incoming mail and will trace 'illegal' items back to their source.
My local PostMistress got quite upset about it, as I gather they get it in the neck too.
Other places you are likely to be sourcing those hard to find beauties, such as The Netherlands and Germany, are not a problem, and
you can send Euros if you use registered post or 'Airsure'.

Yours,
Giles
(Northants......the sunshine state?)

Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Hjalmar on October 09, 2008, 06:08:53 AM
This might be a problem with countries like China, but with Czech republic it seems to me the risk is near zero. I do not believe a bill stuck between two postcards can be seen in an x-ray machine; they will be looking for bombs and such. In any case, the worst thing that can happen is that your money is confiscated. Surely you can't be punished by Czech law for something you did in the UK.
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: derekb on October 09, 2008, 06:58:15 PM
Giles the only time I have come unstuck was using Air sure I have sent bank notes inside birthday cards to nurseries but as I wanted to send 230 Euro to a German Orchid nursery I sent it airsure when it arrived it had been slit open the money taken out and sealed with sellotape, the owner of the nursery sent me photos of it but did not report it just said I had told him it was insured he did not think he needed to. It took me 7 months to get the money back and that was only because I kept on at it.
I would like to say my Wife was German and spent many happy years over there and this person was not a typical German manager.
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: gote on October 10, 2008, 05:42:23 PM
Giles

I assumed that you were an European since you warned us Europeans.

There cannot be any legal restrictions for sending money inside Europe including Switzerland and Norway.

Note that Royal Mail is bundling legal and security issues. This is what I meant in my previous post. Do they imply that Hungarians are steaming up the envelopes?  :D
 
It is possible to use Western Union for sending money but you must know that the recipient has an outlet nearby and you must have one too.

If you want to send small items. seed, banknotes or whatever. Unless the value is great, the best way is normal first class mail. No insurance, no registering, no declarations. The principle is "Do not call attention to your consignement!"

Göte
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Diane Whitehead on December 16, 2008, 08:41:32 PM
I send paper money if it is a small enough amount that I don't mind
losing it (currently my limit is $20).

In North America, all paper money is contaminated enough by drugs
that drug-sniffing dogs and machines used at the U.S./Canada
border can detect it.  I wonder if European post offices use these
methods?

It is illegal to transport large amounts of cash without declaring it, and
dogs are used for this purpose also.  I'm not sure whether it is the
regular drug-sniffing dogs that are used, or specialized money-sniffing
ones.  A funny story - the U.S. still uses paper for $1.  A waitress saved
up her tips - mostly in $1 bills, and took them on holiday.  She was stopped
at an airport, suspected of carrying a massive amount of money. 
The dog had indicated a large number of bills, but they were well within
the legal limit.
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: akoen on December 16, 2008, 11:07:50 PM
There is not allow to send money in the Norwegian Post(Mail)system. I taught it was the same everywere.
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: gote on December 17, 2008, 09:09:03 AM
A long time ago, before the European Union, I made a business trip to Burghausen in Germany on the Austrian border. I stayed in a hotel on the Austrian side on the other side of the river.
If I used the foot bridge over the river, my passport was scrutinized on both sides. If I used the car and took a detour over the motorway bridge nobody cared.
This is typical for the way institutions like Royal and not so royal mail systems, border police and customs offices work.
Once when I was getting off the ferry from Sweden to Germany there was a special razzia for contraband and every car was searched except mine. Why? because I declared an expensive instrument that I wanted to get back with no fuzz. I spent a little time in the customs office and was then waved straight on without any search.
This is why those of us who send banknotes get away with it. No Postal system wants you to send money in letters. They want to charge you extra and threat us with various regulations. I doubt that any Norwegian has been brought to court for sending undeclared money but I might be wrong.
Göte
 
Title: Re: Buying seed from the Czech Republic.
Post by: Andrew on December 23, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
Currently, the following countries all prohibit the sending of cash:

... Australia ...

When did Australia appear on the list ?

At the beginning of the year I went to the Post Office, changed my pounds to AUS dollars, the assistant in there looked up in the book and said they had to go registered, so I put the money in the envelope and off they went!
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