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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Joakim B on October 04, 2008, 07:58:43 PM
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Hi we are now on the 4 of October and I am the first to start the thread.
here are some pics from the bothanical garden in Ajuda, Lisbon Portugal.
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aristolochia gigantea (Brasil)with even darker colour than the picture and the flowers were the size of a baby head.
Viola banksii (Australia)
Hibbertia scandens (Australia)
Dianthus rupicola (Europe)
Then two hibiscus. probably rosa-chinensis
kind regards
Joakim
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The Australian viola looks very like V. hederacea. Is it a synonym?
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The Australian viola looks very like V. hederacea. Is it a synonym?
Yes it is, unfortunately. Hederacea is better known!
Gerd
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Oxalis lobata is putting on a good show.
A late flower on Calandrinia caespitosa (F&W collection.)
At last - Tarasa humilis has flowered for me (again from F&W.)
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Oops - forgot to resize the calandrinia pic.
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Pete,
Great pics. Don't know either of those last two you posted. Both beauties!! 8)
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Some interesting plants (not mine): Sternbergia lutea ssp.?, Sternbergia ssp.?, Colchicum from Turkey, Crocus from Syria and Colchicum var.
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The Tarasa is wonderful Pete. I had it in the early 90s I think, from an F and W collection. It germinated, didn't flower, died. :'(
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Some interesting plants (not mine): Sternbergia lutea ssp.?, Sternbergia ssp.?, Colchicum from Turkey, Crocus from Syria and Colchicum var.
Hans,
your crocus are very beautiful and nicely marked. Are these C. cancellatus ssp...?
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This is a nice autumn narcissus
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The Tarasa is wonderful Pete. I had it in the early 90s I think, from an F and W collection. It germinated, didn't flower, died. :'(
Thanks Lesley. I have had to try it several times, but worth perservering with. They seem ok to keep once they have got older & "woodier" but it is still only 3cm high. The picture dosn't capture the rich, silky texture of the flower. Unfortunately I cannot get it to set seed.
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It's very nice Tony.
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dedicated to my friend Gerd
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And to ALL of us I hope, Rafa. They are very lovely. :)
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ALL, you have gems in your gardens.
Here is only autumn - with Rudbeckia, Aster, Colchicum, Grasses and fog.
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Rafa that is wonderful and a super photgraph
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Here is only autumn
But Hagen it has its own beauty. 8)
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Hagen,
Wow, what a garden. Wish mine looked like that in autumn. Nice to have such a large scale, which unfortunately my poor garden sadly lacks. ::)
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Another of what I am led to believe is Lilium gloriosoides var.
Can someone please confirm?
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Rafa,
Wonderfull autumn narcissus you have. Is the yellow one N. humilis?
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I would say that is Lilium gloriosoides , Dave.... can't make comment as to variety... :-X
I do wish we could do better with autmn flowering narcissus like those, Rafa.... what a joy!
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Does this gentiana mach Maggi's coat in the photo?
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I do wish we could do better with autumn flowering narcissus like those, Rafa.... what a joy!
I second that Maggi, although this year I have had two Narcissus serotinus (in different pots) flowering. My humilis and viridiflorus might as well be pots of grass. :'( There must be people in Escotia who are successful?
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Does this gentiana match Maggi's coat in the photo?
It does indeed, Oleg, I just came in wearing the coat.... a perfect match for the gentian!
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Another of what I am led to believe is Lilium gloriosoides var.
Can someone please confirm?
I'm sure this is right Dave. I WOULD HAVE HAD it as L. speciosum var. gloriosoides if the JCA seed had germinated. :'(
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Thanks Rafa,
your photo shows who is a real Artist.
te felicito :-).
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Rafa and Hagen - great photos. Hagen's is a wonderful example of planting to the best effect and Rafa in staging.
Thanks to all for your contributions. I have learnt so much in such a little time being a member of this forum.
Pat
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I do wish we could do better with autumn flowering narcissus like those, Rafa.... what a joy!
I second that Maggi, although this year I have had two Narcissus serotinus (in different pots) flowering. My humilis and viridiflorus might as well be pots of grass. :'( There must be people in Escotia who are successful?
Please have a little patience! There are a lot of autumn flowering daffodil species in bud here.
I'll show them as soon as they are open.
Gerd
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I do wish we could do better with autumn flowering narcissus like those, Rafa.... what a joy!
I second that Maggi, although this year I have had two Narcissus serotinus (in different pots) flowering. My humilis and viridiflorus might as well be pots of grass. :'( There must be people in Escotia who are successful?
Please have a little patience! There are a lot of autumn flowering daffodil species in bud here.
I'll show them as soon as they are open.
Gerd
Last year I had 10 viridiflorus bulbs in a pot and had 10 stems and no flowers. This year there are 15 bulbs in the pot. 15 stems and no flowers. That's it for 2008. All the bulbs for one pot of serotinus are accounted for for 2008. The other has three more buds, but one looks blind. I suppose in a way it's progress? Last year I had no serotinus flowers in either pot and this summer was rubbish!
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Reminds me of the largish clumps of Narcissus sp. (canaliculatus maybe) that never flower - they flowered the first couple of years but have not bothered to show their faces since. The clumps seem healthy enough.
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N. canaliculatus is notorious for that, at least here in Aus. I often wonder whether we just have a dodgy clone here in Aus. ::) Multiplies very well, but nothing worthwhile otherwise. I still have a small pot of it just for having it, but I've given up on it a few years ago and no longer bother trying to find the right key to flowering it. :'(
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Quite a nice biarum from Spain
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Ok, dedicated to all the friends from SRGC
Note: These yellow Narcissi is Narcissus humilis var. mauritanicus, from Michael Salmon collection. It is bigger than spanish populations.
Urginea-maritima
Narcissus-obsoletus---Narcissus-humilis-(mauritanicus)
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Exquisite, Rafa! 8) :-*
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Rafa what exquisitely tailored flowers - love them. You don't have a good clone of N. canaliculatus that flowers do you? Or anyone else?
Pat T
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Tony,
Nice Biarum.
Rafa,
Oh those little Narcissus. Wow. 8)
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I have had Biarum tenuifolium from Corfu flowering in my rockery outside since 1993.
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Dear Pat,
In the past I bought Narcissus canaliculatus from Ron Scamp in Cornwall http://www.qualitydaffodils.co.uk/
I planted it out in the garden, and it flowered prolifically every year.
Giles
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Dear Tony
Were you aware that there was a 'special edition' of Curtis's Botanical Magazine earlier this year dedicated to Biarum.
I expect you could order a back copy from Wiley-Blackwell publishing. It was Volume 25 part 1. (Feb 2008).
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Dear Tony
Were you aware that there was a 'special edition' of Curtis's Botanical Magazine earlier this year dedicated to Biarum.
I expect you could order a back copy from Wiley-Blackwell publishing. It was Volume 25 part 1. (Feb 2008).
Tony may well have been aware, but I wasn't..... Thanks for that info, Giles!
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If you wanted to borrow my copy, before deciding if its worth buying youself, pm me and I'll post it to you.
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that is very kind, Giles, I will do that. :)
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Autumn colours plus a sternbergia
Menziesia ciilicalyx
Vitis coignetiae
Acer japonicum aureum.
Sternbergia greuteriana
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First some autumn colors and then a lily that I have been waiting long for the flower to open - Lilium gloriosoides.
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Tony,
You are too modest....your Biarum tenuifolium is stunning, it is amazing to see how variable and widespread this species is.
Rafa, is the dark form of U. maritima is from Spain?
Urginea maritima in this region is never dark veined, I have noticed that there are darker forms in some of the Greek Islands.
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Some plants that are flowering in my garden now:
1) Crocus banaticus
2) Crocus sativus
3) Echinacea purpurea 'Summer Sky'
4) ? Sedum ?
5) Campanula...
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Oron,
I do like the non-striped Urginea maritima, but even more because that is a much denser flower spike than I have ever seen before. Like the previous striped pic that was posted, mine tend to have flowers spaced out along the stem, whereas yours is a dense mass of flowers. I'm assuming clonal difference rather than just growing conditions? Yours reminds me almost of the setup of an Eremurus. Very, very nice!!
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Some pics from yesterday
(Crocus goulimyi
Crocus goulimyi alba
Crocus kotschyanus 2.
Crocus sativus 3.
Crocus sativus ,
Cyclamen hederifolium,
Gentiana sino-ornata)
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Some more selected Gentiana sino-ornata
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Hans,
Beautiful!! The Gentians in particular. :D
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Hello Oron, this is the tipical form in Spain, with dark veins. I grow this particular plant from seeds collected in south Spain, but I have seen other plants from Portrugal with same veins. Your plant is beautiful with all flowers open at the same time!
This is Neomarica longifolia, from Venezuela.
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Another one,
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Rafa, what a nice plants! ;o)
Here Arum pictum started to flower
- it can smell awfully but as it is growing in the garden and I have catarrh - I hardly noted anything.
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Wim
You have a very nice colour form of Crocus banaticus. From where did you obtain it please.
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Thank you Hans, very beautiful Arum as well.
Beautiful genthian pictures, and the rest, congratulations to all :o
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Hello,
a floriferous plant, flowering the whole summer and still very nice: Rehmannia elata.
Frost-hardy here, but dislikes winter wetness!
All the best from Linz
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If you wanted to borrow my copy, before deciding if its worth buying youself, pm me and I'll post it to you.
Giles Thank you I was not aware and have sent you a PM.
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Hello Art,
I got the Crocus banaticus from Rareplants.co.uk
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This weekend we had such nice warm sunny weather here!
Good for making some pictures mostly of late (or long ) flowering plants
and some nice colourful shrubs.
The Helianthus salic. would grow 3 m. high if we would not have so much wind,
but I would be unhappy, not having this nice yellow this time of year.
Anemone hybr. Königin Charlotte
Arctanthemum arcticum 1
Arctanthemum arcticum 2
Cornus florida Sweetwater
Helianthus salicifolius 1
Helianthus salicifolius 2
Cercis canadensis Forest Pansy Oct. 1
Cercis canadensis Forest Pansy Oct. 2
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In batch two the Crocus and Nicandra are plants most time of year invisible,
but in October they flower always.
The Nicandra came by birds I believe. Never seeded it myself here.
The shown Tricyrtis is a beautiful plant which flowers for months.
Crocus speciosus 1
Crocus speciosus 2
Leucanthemella serotina
Nicandra physalodes 1
Nicandra physalodes 2
Tricyrtis Tojen
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Were you aware that there was a 'special edition' of Curtis's Botanical Magazine earlier this year dedicated to Biarum.
I expect you could order a back copy from Wiley-Blackwell publishing. It was Volume 25 part 1. (Feb 2008).
Giles
I have the copy of this Biarum monograph in my hot little hands, courtesy of Giles.... it is certainly most interesting..... however, I discover that one need not buy a copy... the whole issue is available online in four pdf files, here: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119416936/issue easy to download and a free sample!!
Home web page of publishers Wiley-Blackwell is this: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/home .... a source of all sorts of useful stuff, methinks!
Many thanks for your kind loan, Giles, I'll get it back to you as soon as possible! :-*
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Colletia hystrix - nice, vivid flowers but small, on a very spiky plant - like gorse.
Fascicularia bicolor starting to colour up & flower.
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The colours of the Colletia and Fascicularia are good together. Rich reds are so sumptuous at this time of year. Pity about the Colletia being so thorny, though!
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We are very sorry that the forum was down for most of today due to a data base error Fred has now fixed it and we will endeavour to prevent it happening again.
Now we can get our forum fix. :) :) :) :D :D
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Hagen is that your garden?
Pete how do you get your Oxalis to grow to big?
Edit by Maggi: refers to posts on page one of this thread!
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Luit is that a special form of Helianthus salicifolius? Mine has never flowered
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Luit is that a special form of Helianthus salicifolius? Mine has never flowered
Mark I have never seen a Hel. salicifolium which is not flowering in Holland.
Yours must be a very bad clone.
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Helianthus salicifolius is very late flowering. In our climate it is about three out of ten years that it flowers depending on the weather in autumn. Last year and the year before that we had very warm autumns and it flowered. This year is not so warm so I doubt if it is going to flower. However it is a very attractive plant even without flowers.
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In February I sowed seeds of Eryngium leavenworthii, and they are putting on a nice display now, about a month later than usual due to the wet and cool summer we've had here in Scandinavia. The flowers start out green and then gradually shift to a deep saturated purple. I wonder if they keep their color if cut and dried?
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Not a species I have grown, Paul... but I'll look for seed of it now... very smart colours there. Not sure about how well that colour will preserve when dried ... could not hurt to try it, I reckon!
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Paul,
That was a great return from your seed, sown in February and in such good flower by October and what a great colour. Well done!
Paddy
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Cypripedium 'Emil' has been sitting in a large black patio pot in full sun all summer, so as her indoors needed the pot I tipped it out and washed it. Still not plucked up the courage to split it, so it went into a prepared hole in its entirety.
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Here is Gentiana 'Zuiko-rindo' flowering today.
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I have just a few late flowering gems to add to the October list, although the Colchicums have already succumbed to the weather.
Colchicum kotschyi
Crocus zonatus
Cyclamen cilicium
Cyc. cilicium leaf pattern detail
Kalma latifolia
Oxalis massoniana
Saxifraga fortunei 'Pink Haze'
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Another bit of autumn colour at friends' garden near Peggy's Cove, Nova Scotia.
johnw - +8c here and damn chilly.
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I have just a few late flowering gems to add to the October list, although the Colchicums have already succumbed to the weather.
Colchicum kotschyi
Crocus zonatus
Cyclamen cilicium
Cyc. cilicium leaf pattern detail
Kalma latifolia
Oxalis massoniana
Saxifraga fortunei 'Pink Haze'
Hello Shelag,
your "Crocus zonatus" is a nice clump of C. speciosus. :o
The trade name "C. zonatus" is obsolete but still used. :(
The correct name would be C. kotschyanus kotschyanus ;)
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Antony,
Paul said he would kill me when I said Fritillaria camtschatkensis is a weed in my garden.
Looking at your cyp I say Look out and keep your head down. ;D
Someday I have to find out how you do it.'
Göte
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Göte, you can see some lovely Cypripediums in the pix from the SRGC Aberdeen show elsewhere in the forum....
see here, there are four pages! http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1798.0
.....but here is a photo of Anthony's 'Emil' in flower at that show... winning the Aberdeen Quaich for the best plant in Section 2.
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....but here is a photo of Anthony's 'Emil' in flower at that show... winning the Aberdeen Quaich for the best plant in Section 2.
That is disgusting! ;D
My C. formosanum, flowering in October (NZ) is much more refined, with a mere 3 flowers. QUALITY, rather than just quantity. Oh well, I'll concede some quality in Anthony's as well. :) Besides, an Australian friend currently has 20 stems on his formosanum. :P
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Beautiful Cyps 8)
This morning at sunshine but fresh 6°C and rime I took some pictures to catch the autuum impressions.
Pulsatilla vulgaris: one single stem grown in full shadow
Hemerocallis: to my surprise still in flower
Aster amellus: now flower season
Calendula: with rime
Rose Lichtkönigin Lucia: nice buds
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continued...
Alcea rosea: red form
Centaurea montana: a bit weedy
Viburnum opullus: colored autuum leaves
Clematis "Mrs. N.Tompson": large flowers, long lasting
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and final...
Malva moschata: last pink spot
Iris sibirica: ripe seed capsules
I hope you enjoyed them.
It's late - good night!
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Thanks for the corrections Armin, it's a good job I bought plenty of labels at the Discussion Weekend.
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and final...
Malva moschata: last pink spot
Iris sibirica: ripe seed capsules
I hope you enjoyed them.
It's late - good night!
Hi Armin,
I love the mallows in autumn too!
Gerd
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Some great autumn colours Armin ! 8)
Very nice Clematis !!
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Autumn in Denmark
Cyclamen hederifolium
Arum Pictum bud
A nice forrest lake
Contrasting colours in the forrest
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Two species received this year from two friends, Scilla maderensis (thanks to Kurt Vickery) and Galanthus reginae-olgae (thanks to Tony Willis)
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Two species received this year from two friends, Scilla maderensis (thanks to Kurt Vickery) and Galanthus reginae-olgae (thanks to Tony Willis)
Nice plants and very skilful photos. How hardy is Scilla maderensis?
Poul
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Yes, the Eryngium leavenworthii stays purple when dried. I have seen herbarium specimens many, many years old that were still that bright purple.
Aaron Floden
Knoxville, TN
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Yes, the Eryngium leavenworthii stays purple when dried. I have seen herbarium specimens many, many years old that were still that bright purple.
Aaron Floden
Knoxville, TN
thanks, Aaron
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Two species received this year from two friends, Scilla maderensis (thanks to Kurt Vickery) and Galanthus reginae-olgae (thanks to Tony Willis)
Nice plants and very skilful photos. How hardy is Scilla maderensis?
Poul
I don't know if this species is hardy below 0º, but I prefere to not try it ;D. I am growing it in the bulb frame.
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Because winter comes so early to this part of the world autumn for me means form, texture, foliage, berries and seed receptacles.
Above all, it is ornamental grasses at the moment. Rather than try to identify the particular grasses, I prefer to present them in the way that they move me in the garden: with their grace, movement and color.
The first picture is actually very old---taken at the Atlanta Botanic Gardens some dozen years ago. On the bench is my darling daughter, as she was then....
The remainder are all from my property.
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continuing...
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Great grasses..... so photogenic.
And now, all these years on... the DD (Darling Daughter) is a Student Member of the SRGC..... wonderful how things pan out, ain't it?!!
See the benefits of taking your children to see great gardens, all you young parents out there....... ::)
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and the last...
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A very confused gentian here and an arisaema seed head
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A couple of weeks ago we had a lovely misty morning when Prunus sargentii was at its best. The Schizostylis have flowered particularly well this year, this pink one is, I think, 'Mrs Heggarty'.
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................... The Schizostylis have flowered particularly well this year, this pink one is, I think, 'Mrs Heggarty'.
Mine have too, perhaps the lousy Summer had something to do with it? By the way are they called something else other than Schizostylis these days?
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David,
I think they're Hesperantha now aren't they? ???
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Spot on Paul, I couldn't bring it to mind.
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Flippin' eck! Not another name gone west! >:(
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................... The Schizostylis have flowered particularly well this year, this pink one is, I think, 'Mrs Heggarty'.
Mine have too, perhaps the lousy Summer had something to do with it? By the way are they called something else other than Schizostylis these days?
Also mine - in fact they've never been better. I've just looked in Beth Chatto's The Damp Garden where she says they need "far more moisture than you might imagine." I presume this last summer gave them exactly what they need.
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At this time of the year the flowers get fewer and fewer, but many trees and shrubs are vey showy
in their autumn colours.Allium thunbergii is a very reliable late floweing geophyte.
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Rudi,
Lovely photographs. I wish the leaves would stay on my Gingko biloba long enough for them to colour so well. Mine are always blown off too early as the tree is planted on its own in an open position and so gets the full blast of the wind.
Some photographs from my garden today. The Yucca filamentosa is looking particularly well at the moment with two flowering spikes. Another plant in a different part of the garden has one spike but the flowers are not fully open yet. The seedhead of Paris polyphylla just opened today - what bright seeds!
Paddy
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Some photographs from my garden today. The Yucca filamentosa is looking particularly well at the moment with two flowering spikes.
Paddy
How amazing, Paddy, as the same plant is coming into flower in our garden on the other side of the world to you in Ireland! If I can get a decent pic I'll post it to the Southern Hemisphere thread.
cheers
femri
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Paddy,
Thanks for the great pictures. I've never seen a Paris seedhead before. Very, very cool. Some great autumn colour in your pics..... while here we're having the spring flowering.
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Some photographs from my garden today. The Yucca filamentosa is looking particularly well at the moment with two flowering spikes.
Paddy
How amazing, Paddy, as the same plant is coming into flower in our garden on the other side of the world to you in Ireland! If I can get a decent pic I'll post it to the Southern Hemisphere thread.
cheers
femri
My Yucca filamentosa was over early September.
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Anthony,
We had a heavy frost last night, the first of the year and I feared for the yucca but it is still in perfect shape.
Paul, re the Paris - I don't suppose I can send them on to you with your restrictions? I shall sow them around the old plant and let nature do its own business(unless, I hear something to the contrary from you).
Paddy
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Paddy,
Well if Paul doesn't want any, you could send me some! P. polyphylla is on our permitted list.
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Gone to the man in Tasmania (I can share if Paul wants some)
Don't forget to send my your postal address, Rob.
Paddy
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They're gone! All spoken for.
Paddy
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Paddy,
I was going to say Yes to a few of them..... but send them down to Rob and maybe he can send me a couple. Much easier for you to just post one lot to Aus. Saves you some postage.
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Paul,
Not only can I pass on some of the Paris, I can also send you the auriculas - if you want them.
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Paddy,your flowering Yucca looks so beautiful with the yellow edged leaves and these opulent flower
spikes. I am so sorry,that my limited garden space doesn't allow me the cultivation of this beauty.
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Paul,
Please send my your postal address. There was one seed capsule - I went out last night with a torch to collect the seed just in case a mouse decided they would make a nice snack. There were more seed than I imagined in the seedpod and I can certainly send on a few to you.
This offer is now closed - sorry to be blunt but they are spoken for. There will always be next year.
Rudi, it's a nice plant to view in the garden but an absolute brute to work near in the garden as the spikes are lethal.
Paddy
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Hi All
a bit late here - some of these pictures are from today - and some are from earlier - so I thought I would shove them in the October thread to cover all bases..... ::) Hope you like ferns!....
1 - Asplenium scolopendrium 'Applecourt'
2 - Asplenium scolopendrium 'Crispum Cristatum'
3 - Cyclamen hederifolium 'silver leaf group'
4 - Asplenium scolopendrium 'Ramo-marginatum (kayes)'
5 - Asplenium scolopendrium 'Ramo-marginatum (clone 3)'
6 - Asplenium scolopendrium 'Zeal Dwarf'
7 - Asplenium scolopendrium 'Laceratum Lobed clone'
8 - Asplenium scolopendrium 'Fimbriatum'
9 - A new one (there are only 2 in existence at the moment) - A.S. 'sculpture'
As you can probably tell I like Asplenium scolopendrium forms rather a lot! ::)
regards
John
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Some actual pics of my garden:
Colchicum stevenii, some Cyclamen and Iris planifolia :D
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John,
I particularly like 'Zeal Dwarf', very nice indeed. By coincidence I grow a Nerine called 'Zeal Giant'.
Paddy
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Hans, that is a wonderful pic of the cyclamen leaves and bougainvillea bracts. :)
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Oh those Aspleniums!! Wow!!! :o
Hans,
Our Beaugainvillea is back in full flower here now as well after winter. Same colour. Glorious isn't it!! 8)
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Our Beaugainvillea is back in full flower here now as well after winter. Same colour. Glorious isn't it!! 8)
Did you mean to spell it that way Paul?
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Hans, that is a wonderful pic of the cyclamen leaves and bougainvillea bracts. :)
Thanks, yes just this is the reason why I posted it. :D - unfortunately in the wrong (month)thread ::)
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Hans I collected 6 very full pods from my Iris planifolia clump so if you get busy......???
I will take some seed to Otto next week when I visit. Some of the smaller oncos are still looking amazing - the leaves that is. The Iris susiana I don't want to even think about but then it might look better under the ground than above. Only a few pods on the arils set this year so I will be way down on the seeds I donate to different societies.
Pat