Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum

General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on October 02, 2008, 12:20:51 AM

Title: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 02, 2008, 12:20:51 AM
Time for a new thread! We're just into October and already fields around us are starting to turn from fresh spring green to shades of yellow and brown for summer!
Here are some pics taken this morning in the garden and shadehouse.
Paeonia cambessedessii in the Rock Garden Bed,
[attachthumb=1]
Fritillaria lusitanica
[attachthumb=2]
Narcissus "Hillview Triquill"
[attachthumb=3]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 02, 2008, 12:30:54 AM
Some from the Shadehouse now,
Cyclamen persicum (ex Israel) grown from AGS Seedex seed,
[attachthumb=1]
First flowers on Pelargonium barkleyi, received as a seedling from Viv Condon, the foliage behind the flower belongs to seedlings of P. alchemilloides (thanks, Mark, for that seed!)
[attachthumb=2]
Another Pelargonium, P.incrassatum, grown from NZAGS Seedex seed,
[attachthumb=3]
And in the garden, Pacific Coast Iris "Big Money"
[attachthumb=4]
I'll post more iris pics to the Bearded iris thread!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 02, 2008, 02:05:18 AM
I was just considering starting this thread to have another go with my failed posting. Will try here later today.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Heinie on October 02, 2008, 09:23:59 AM
The following  Cyrtanthus isflowering for me now.



Cyrtanthus falcatus which is not fully open yet


(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0187.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0184.jpg)

Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Heinie on October 02, 2008, 09:29:06 AM
I found this Gladiolus alatus flowering on a open plot across the road from my home.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2321.jpg)

Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 02, 2008, 10:58:05 AM
Even though we have a bit of sunshine today in Aberdeen it is really exciting to see these flowers from so far away.  Heinie, your Cyrtanthus hybrid and Glad. are such cheering colours! Lovely!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 02, 2008, 12:05:53 PM
Heinie,

All beautiful!!  I have Gladiolus uysiae flowering here at the moment, but managed to lose all my alatus a couple of years ago which was dreadful as they were my favourite miniature glad.  Lovely to see your pic of the alatus, and one of the stronger colour forms which I reckon are the best of them.  Wonderful perfume too as I recall.

Does your Cyrtanthus falcatus have leaves with the flowers, or does it flower leafless.  Mine have strong leaves up now so I am assuming that yet again mine won't flower this year.  How big is the flowering bulb?  Trying to work out whether to move it into more sun or not.  Grows well where it is, but no flowers.  Any chance of a picture of the full plant?

Must also comment on the beautiful Clivias in the background to your pictures.  Beautiful!! 8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 03, 2008, 01:11:52 AM
Heinie,
your cyrtanthus and Gladdie are superb! I'd love to see more of your garden and of your wildflowers :D
Here are more spring flowers in the rock garden,
the lily tulip, "Moonshine"
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]
Tulipa hageri
[attachthumb=4]
Helianthemum "Ben Vane"
[attachthumb=3]
And Albuca maxima, just sending up its spikes,
[attachthumb=5]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Heinie on October 03, 2008, 09:24:26 PM
Thank you all for your lovely comments.

Paul,
Here is a photo of the complete plant taken about 10 days ago. The leaves and the flower scape grew out together. The bulb is 170mm from the growing medium to where the leaves emerge and the total height of the plant from the top of the growing medium is 410mm. The diameter of the widest part of the bulb is 72mm. The flower head looks even better now with about half of the flowers open.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0027.jpg)

Fermi,
Here are some more wild flowers as requested where they grow in their habitat on an open plot across the road from my home. There is a large nature reserve behind this open plot. The first photo is of the open plot taken from my pavement. I will post some photos of the garden tomorrow for you.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0126.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2344.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2341.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2339.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2334.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2332.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2330.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2328.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2326.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2322.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2317.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2315.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2308.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2307.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2305.jpg)



Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 04, 2008, 12:58:55 PM
Thanks Heinie.  There's a few of them in there that I wish I was growing here!!  What is the pink and dark centred one that looks like a Spiloxene, with with 3 petals up and 3 petals flat?  Some nice Geissorhiza and Spiloxene in the pics, amongst others.  Thanks!!  8)

Here's some pics of a few of the things I have in flower now....

The Hyacinthoides hesperacea 'Rosea' is I am presuming correctly named.  Very good flowerer every year, a lovely shade of pink.

This Serpias lingua is a much pinker form than the other one I grow.  Great to have terrestrial orchids that require no care or attention whatsoever, even in pots.

Then there are a couple of Trillium.... T. albidum (I think) and T. cuneatum.  Rather nice display right now.

And lastly.... my various standardised Wisteria are coming into flower.  This is the newest of them and so has the smallest top to it.  I still just love it though, as Wisteria sinensis flowers so beautifully without it's leaves.  Like lovely bunches of grapes.  And oh the perfume!!  :o

So many more pics i have taken recently, both here at home and at work in the ANBG.  Will try to process some more pics over the weekend to upload as we have a long weekend here in the ACT (Australian Capital Territory).  I hope you enjoy the pics.  I've also posted some in the wildlife thread.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on October 04, 2008, 07:35:14 PM
Lovely pics from you folks in the 'upsidedown' part of the world. ;D Makes us 'Northerners' remeber that there is a Spring and a Summer  (hopefully!)to look forward too.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on October 04, 2008, 07:39:29 PM
Thanks Heinie.  There's a few of them in there that I wish I was growing here!!  What is the pink and dark centred one that looks like a Spiloxene, with with 3 petals up and 3 petals flat?  

What a wealth of rare springflowers - so near to the garden! Thanks for showing these pics.

I follow Paul with the same question: Pic no. 8 some kind of Spiloxene? -perhaps capensis?

also pic no. 12 (the white version of Spiloxene capensis)?

Do you know how long a single flower lasts?

Gerd
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 04, 2008, 09:55:25 PM
Gerd,

I "think" that pink one is a pink version of Spiloxene capensis.... thought it might have been something else, but looking again I think that the top 3 petals mustn't have opened properly.  Very desirable, whatever it is.  The thing after it that I was thinking was a Geissorhiza I've realised is probably something like Ixia rouxii?  Another very desirable plant (I used to grow it but unfortunately lost it a few years ago and don't know where to source it again!?  I have a feeling someone posted a pic of it recently?), that is for sure.  Meant to ask what the last picture of the strange yellow flowers is?  Do you collect seed of any of these wildflowers?

I also forgot to thank Heinie for posting the full pic of the Cyrtanthus falcatus too.  Thanks Heinie!  8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on October 05, 2008, 07:34:51 AM
Paul,
You are right, in the meantime I found a picture of a pink Spiloxene capensis -
all colour variants of this species seemed to be very desirable indeed.

Gerd
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Heinie on October 05, 2008, 08:41:21 PM
Fermi,
It took a while but here are some photos of my garden. I hope that there are not too many for the thread.

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0209.jpg)

Sunrise from the back of my house
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2279.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2064.jpg)

There are about 20 different Tillandsias in this tree
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_2082.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0007-1.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0046.jpg)

This is my Clivia Shade House
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_1960.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_1704.jpg)

This is part of the view from the back of my house upstairs
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_1710.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_1718.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0739.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0609.jpg)

(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0607.jpg)

Here is the King Protea
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o149/loevenstein/IMG_0003.jpg)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 05, 2008, 09:40:54 PM
These are great Heinie. You have beautiful paths. Did you lay them?

The King protea is a magnificent thing. There were some - and several others and leucodendons - for sale at my Market on Saturday.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 06, 2008, 01:21:06 AM
It took a while but here are some photos of my garden. I hope that there are not too many for the thread.
Thanks, Heinie,
for the scenes of your garden and the glimpses at the plot across the road; as Paul has said, there are many things there that we would love to grow here! I'm very fond of the Sth AFrican bulbs and look forward to any other offerings you have to share. From what you grow it appears that your climate is a bit warmer than Melbourne, possibly more like Sydney's.
Here are some flowers from the Rock Garden,
Lachenalia contaminata is quite at home with Australian Pultanea, European Sempervivum and South American Oenothera!
[attachthumb=8]
Tulipa maximowiczii is one of the last to flower this year,
[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=3]
From the Shadehouse, Lachenalia orchioides var glaucina
[attachthumb=4]
This Serapias lingua maybe a bit paler due to being in the Shadehouse,
[attachthumb=5]
This is a small group of Aussie native plants growing in the Rock garden,
[attachthumb=9]
Including a tiny relative of the kangaroo paws, Contostylis bealei
[attachthumb=6]
and the Hoary sunray, Leucochrysum albicans,
[attachthumb=7]
This tiny Dianthus sericea is growing in a crevice,
[attachthumb=1]
cheers
fermi

Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 07, 2008, 07:46:54 AM
Here are a few pics from Otto,
Iris trojana,
[attachthumb=1]
Iris sari
[attachthumb=2]
Iris susiana hybrid
[attachthumb=3]

[attachthumb=4]
Tropaeolum azureum
[attachthumb=5]
cheers
fermi on behalf of Otto Fauser in Olinda.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 07, 2008, 07:54:36 AM
Now a few from our garden in Central Victoria,
I posted a pic of this Dichelostemma last year, but I'm not sure if it's D. congestum or D. multiflorum!(It's actually D. capitatum!)
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]
Delphinium luteum is now flowering in the Shadehouse,
[attachthumb=3]
This ixia appears to be a hybrid between I. maculata and something else!
[attachthumb=4]
I'll post more ixia pixias to the South African Bulbs thread!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 07, 2008, 09:25:03 AM
Fermi,

Great pics.  Good to see the Conostylis as they're so cool.  Never realised they were related to Kangaroo Paws.  :o

Otto's Iris sari and Iris susiana hybrid are real stunners.  Beautiful.  And lastly your own stuff in your own garden is great too.  Thanks for posting pics!!  8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 07, 2008, 11:54:13 AM
Wonderful photos from the other side of the world! Thank you all!
 Heinie, if ONLY my clivias looked as good as yours! The poor things suffer from neglect as houseplants here and I am ashamed to say that most are in dire need of remedial care  :-[ :'(
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Heinie on October 07, 2008, 08:56:29 PM
Lesley,

I apologise for not answering you regarding the paths. Yes, I packed them about 3 years ago to get my feet out of the mud in winter when I go to the shade house. It was a slippery affair because I have a very steep down hill plot. 
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 07, 2008, 10:05:25 PM
You are obviously a very good brick layer Heinie. :)

Fermi, thanks for posting Otto's. (We need to get that man by the scruff of the neck and teach him how!) I was really sorry to miss his oncos, probably 5 that had buds.

Really nice little Conostylis too. I bought two of these, the one in the "Some Australian Plants" thread and a cushion species, maybe yours, as a present for Don. He seemed pleased with them. I'd like to try them here too but.... :'(
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hans A. on October 08, 2008, 10:28:17 PM
Fermi, thanks for posting Ottos Oncos - especially Iris sari is a stunner!:o)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on October 08, 2008, 11:43:20 PM
Otto your Iris trojana is at the same stage as my clump here. Such a tall elegant plant.
Pat
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 08, 2008, 11:52:28 PM
Hans,
you're very welcome :D
I'm happy to post pics for Otto, especially his wonderful irises.
Here are a few more pics from my garden,
A dwarf kniphofia which I received as "Candlelight" but it may actually be "Little Treasure"
[attachthumb=1]
A overview of the mini-crevice garden on the west side of a small mound.
[attachthumb=2]
Dianthus gracilis growing in the crevice garden
[attachthumb=3]
Dianthus spiculifolius
[attachthumb=4]
From the native section,
a Dampiera species which looks like rosemary, D. rosmarinifolia,
[attachthumb=5]
D. diversifolia, a more prostrate grower,
[attachthumb=6]
The waxflower, Philotheca, is now in full flower,
[attachthumb=7]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 10, 2008, 04:30:18 AM
Along the roadside at Langley, between work and home, there has been a profusion of wildflowers,
[attachthumb=1]
At first it's hard to distinguish amongst the long grass,
[attachthumb=3]
But the "Pink-Bells", Tetratheca ciliata, are there in variety,
[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=4]
Even sprouting through the embankment,
[attachthumb=5]
Along with these were patches of "egg-and-bacon" flowers, either Dillwynia or Daviesia,
[attachthumb=6]

[attachthumb=7]
Back in the garden at home,
another moraea is flowering,M. villosa, I presume!
[attachthumb=8]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 10, 2008, 06:27:48 AM
One for Mr Buttercup, Ranunculus gramineus,
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]
And "Bronze Queen", a Dutch iris that doesn't really live up to its name.
[attachthumb=3]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 10, 2008, 08:01:30 AM
Fermi,

Great stuff!!  Excellent to see those sorts of things "in the wild".  ;)

That Ranunculus in your garden is pretty speccy.  With those leaves I never would have guessed that is what it was!!  :o
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 11, 2008, 03:24:22 AM
Howdy All,

Some garden bits and pieces in flower at the moment......

Daphne burkwoodi variegata
First flowering of a seedling of Clivia miniata var citrina imported as seed from South Africa a few years ago.
A Chilean shrub called Cantua buxifolia.
Gladiolus liliaceus from the front and the side.  This is a relative of G. tristus and can hybridise with it.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 11, 2008, 03:28:48 AM
And a couple more.....

A red flowered form of Pulsatilla vulgaris which I just love.
A bicolor form (unfortunately was hoping it was true to it's pure yellow parents, but not in this case) of Velthemia
Wisteria longissima is in full flower right now.

I also have some Rhododendron pics but should I post them here or down in the Rhodo section?  I've also posted some ID pics of an Tall Bearded Iris down in the bearded iris topic.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 11, 2008, 05:33:40 AM
And another Gladiolus, this one Gladiolus huttonii.

Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 11, 2008, 10:25:43 AM
Your garden must be looking well with all these flowers, Paul. Particularly drawn to Gladiolus liliaceus....love these "odd" flowers.... and developing fondness for gladiolus in general... turning into Dame Edna, I suppose  :-[
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 11, 2008, 12:16:06 PM
Maggi,

And I still intend to send you a Gladiolus uysiae as promised last season.  ::)  One of those real miniatures with the great perfume.  Have had a big flowering of them this year and the scent was absolutely glorious!!!!!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 11, 2008, 01:06:40 PM
 OOH,  :-*thanks, Paul!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hans J on October 11, 2008, 01:50:55 PM
 :o  :o :o

Paul ,

many thanks for sharing with us all this beautiful pics from this topic .....

really fantasic !!!
Hans
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 11, 2008, 10:44:02 PM
I'm way behind with posting pictures, there's so much to do outside and now that the evenings are longer and the days a bit warmer, it's very tempting to be out there as long as possible. But I've watered my seeds this morning, the most urgent job and Roger's still lying in bed (10.30am) so I'll try some now. I've still to finish the Australian pics from last month but will most likely put them here.

First though, these from the last few days.

[attachthumb=1]
Primula x Garryade 'Guinivere'

[attachthumb=2]
Primula (which I have as) monroi ssp. yargongensis but I think it looks pretty much like P. frondosa

[attachthumb=3]
and a single white-flowered plant from the batch of about 30

[attachthumb=4]
A so-called dwarf form of Fritillaria affinis, about 20cms in height

[[attachthumb=5]
A standard dwarf bearded iris which may or may not be 'Tiny Tink.' I bought it as that but I wiyld have expected a much shorter flower stem. This is about 20cms and TT should be a miniature.

[attachthumb=6]
Draba dryoides imbricata is a nice trough or pot plant, but in a raised bed here.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 11, 2008, 11:04:40 PM
Gentians are good at the moment. This one is G. acaulis 'Blue Velvet' which always flowers very freely.
[attachthumb=1]

A purple form of G. clusii
[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=3]

From Marcus Harvey last autumn, came this very nice Anemone nemorosa with the name 'Blue Eyes' but ???
[attachthumb=4]

Also from Marcus as seed in 2004, Fritillaria pyrenaica in what he calls a honey-brown form
[attachthumb=5]

[attachthumb=6]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 11, 2008, 11:17:05 PM
Lesley,

Love that last Frit and those Primulas..  The Anemone nemorosa 'Blue Eyes' I think will develop the blue "eye" more as it opens and ages.  I have seen in in flower elsewhere before, which is the only reason I am not sure (i.e I haven't flowered it myself).
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 11, 2008, 11:27:02 PM
G. acaulis [/i] 'Blue Velvet'

Smashing Gentian Leslie!

johnw
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 11, 2008, 11:39:18 PM
Daphne x Hendersonii which I bought in January, at the NZAGS Study Weekend. D. petraea will be open in less than a week I should think.
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]

And my piece de resistance at the moment, Cypripedium formosanum. After I divided my original which never flowered well, and sold off 30 plants, the remaining parts that I replanted died away gradually, I think through being too dry. This time last year (at the Trillium weekend) someone who had had one of my plants GAVE back to me, two very nice plants, his in the meantime, having grown well and flowered furiously over about 10 years. The two plants now have 3 flowers and 7 noses already (just singles last year), so the trip to Rotorua has done the plant a lot of good.

[attachthumb=3]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 12, 2008, 12:09:41 AM
After a meeting on Friday I went to the Clive Lister garden, at Dunedin Botanic Gardens, hoping the Fritillaria imperialis may not have finished. They were better than I expected.
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=3]

I had only seen these in seed before so was surprised to see how many yellows there are and very few bronzy-oranges. I was given a huge bag of seed the summer before last and the 2 cups of parchment-coloured seed to about a quarter cup tan seed is now explained. I plan to ask for some more this year.

Hostas and Arisaemas are pushing through and developing quickly. The Arisaema here is A. nepenthoides.
[attachthumb=4]

One of my favourite ferns is Struthiopteris mattuecia, as much for its name as for its gorgeous fronds which take on a golden tint in summer.
[attachthumb=5]


Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 12, 2008, 12:37:18 AM
The DBG has Podophyllum 'Spotty Dotty' as P. versipelle S D. I thought it may be a hybrid of P. delavayi[i/] or veitchii.
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=3]

This little cushion-shaped Pieris is P. japonica 'Sarabande'
[attachthumb=4]

[attachthumb=5]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 12, 2008, 01:30:21 AM
Still in the DBG, 2 ferns Athyrium nipponicum 'Ursula's Red'
[attachthumb=1]

and 'Silver Falls'
[attachthumb=2]

then a lovely plant (there were several) of Paeonia mlokosewitschii
[attachthumb=3]

[attachthumb=4]
 
[attachthumb=5]

And finally for today, a seedling of this species, from my garden. Not sure if I like it or not.
[attachthumb=6]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 12, 2008, 02:31:45 AM
Lesley,

Beautiful pictures!!  That Podophyllum is a stunner by the looks of it, and the Paeonia is gorgeous.  I love the fern (looks a bit big for my place here though unfortunately ::) ) and those Fritillaria imperialis.  :o  Thanks for the great pics.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 12, 2008, 02:57:32 AM
Leslie - Dizzying enough to see that sneaky Myosotidsium in bloom there in the distance but that wonderful Podophyllum is just more than I can cope with.

johnw
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 12, 2008, 07:51:32 AM
Some pics taken today.  So much in flower right now!!  Yeah spring!!  ;D

Attached are a pic of one of the Californian Poppies, Nemesia 'Sunsatia Peach' (one of the perennial Nems), Pieris 'Temple Bells', Gynandriris setifolia (what exactly is the difference between this species and G. pritzelliana?), and a supposed Moraea thompsonii which I think may instead just be another of the Gynandriris setifolia.  Marginally different flower, but only enough to be within the bounds of genetic diversity I feel.  Then again there may be more obscure differences and it actually is what it was labelled?  Can anyone confirm this?

I'll also be posting some pics in the Primula and Orchid sections if anyone is interested.  Enjoy!!  8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 14, 2008, 12:08:03 AM
Some oddments that are flowering at present. The Narcissus are all latish varieties with me, most others being well past their use by date.

[attachthumb=1]
Narcissus gaditanus minutiflorus. Definitely! I found it impossible to take a decent picture of this one. It's just too small, barely a centimetre across. Very cute though.

[attachthumb=2]
N. 'Fairy Chimes' is very much in the style of 'Hawera,' 'Mary Plumstead' et al.

[attachthumb=3]
N. 'Kidling.' The crocus leaf gives some idea of the comparative size

[attachthumb=4]
and N. 'Ricky.' Not sure about these last two names. The source is renowned for making mistakes and misnaming.

[attachthumb=5]
This very nice little iris is 'Grey Pearls,' about 20 cms in height

[attachthumb=6]
Calochortus umbellatus is one of the very small species, just about 12-15 cms in height. It makes a thick clump and sets lots of seed.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 14, 2008, 12:21:49 AM
[attachthumb=1]
Can someone identify this little Tulipa species please? I bought 2 at the weekend and I feel I should know but can't place it. It opens wide to a bright yellow star. I like the way the stem is angled.

[attachthumb=2]
This Fritillaria meleagris is from MH as 'Saturnus' but surely that should be darker?

[attachthumb=3]
as biflora, I think this should be F. grayana

[attachthumb=4]
I think this one is magical. It is F. bithynica and I never planted it in this trough in the first place, but every year - at least 6 now - I lift it out carefully (usually 2 bulbs) and pot it with others, and every year it is still there, and sometimes in a different place in the trough. There are 8 flowers on this little group this year and another, separate bulb in a different corner!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 14, 2008, 12:39:55 AM
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]
Haberlea rhodopensis virginalis is not vigorous but always flowers well. It probably would like a damper place.

[attachthumb=3]
Houstonia caerulea alba came close to dying last summer, being like the haberlea, too dry. Just saved it and now it's coming away nicely but summer is yet to come.

[attachthumb=4]
The white form of Gentiana angustifolia. I find it grows really well but doesn't flower very freely.

[attachthumb=5]
Gentiana verna alba is still in the nursery pot it came in last March. It shows the quality of plants from Hokonui Alpines.

[attachthumb=6]
Something pink to finish with, is Daphne arbuscula. I dug out hundreds of seedlings and small corms from around its roots before the pic, because they looked so tatty, C. sieberi sublimis tricolor. All potted up and growing on for next year. I'm pleased to see seed on several crocuses just today, including CC. vallicola, longiflorus and candidus.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 14, 2008, 01:32:55 AM
And as an afterthought, Carduncellus rhaponticoides, growing in the corner of a trough, in competition with Salvia chamaedryoides 'Blue Ribbon' which sends out stoloniferous growths through everything.
[attachthumb=1]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: galahad on October 14, 2008, 06:52:28 AM
Can someone identify this little Tulipa species please? I bought 2 at the weekend and I feel I should know but can't place it. It opens wide to a bright yellow star. I like the way the stem is angled.

Lesley, could it be T. sylvestris?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on October 14, 2008, 07:13:54 AM
Can someone identify this little Tulipa species please? I bought 2 at the weekend and I feel I should know but can't place it. It opens wide to a bright yellow star. I like the way the stem is angled.

Lesley, could it be T. sylvestris?
That is what I thought too Lesley.
I love the Carduncellus rhaponticoides! Have not seen it here for long time now.
The mostly offered one is C. pinnatifidus, which is not so tough as this one.
(Probably easier to grow from seeds?)
Carduncellus rhaponticoides we could only propagate by root cuttings.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 14, 2008, 08:16:09 AM
Lesley, Paul, Fermi !
What a great show you've been putting up over the last few weeks !
Looks like the SH is the place to be at the moment  8)

And so many real Alpines !!  Always a bonus in my eyes !
Thanks a lot and keep them coming !  :D
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Joakim B on October 14, 2008, 09:59:49 AM
Nice spring plants You all show.
Some of these are now being planted here :)
Lesley is the iris in a pot because it has not been planted yet or do You grow them in pots?
Keep spring coming :)
Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on October 14, 2008, 12:27:40 PM
Lovely stuff Paul and Lesley. Loved the Calochortus umbellatus Lesley, I've formed another 'obsession' and am trying C. argillorus, cataliniae, luteus, palmerii, uniflorus and superbus this year as well as some others from seed. If they turn out as good as yours I shall be well pleased.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on October 14, 2008, 03:54:53 PM
Lesley

That Daphne is spectacular - worthy of the Show bench.  Spring is my favourite time so getting twice in one year is a real bonus.   :) 8) :)

Here the Autumn Crocus are doing real well this year and the snowdrops are earlier than ever.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 14, 2008, 07:15:08 PM
Thanks for the tulip ID. I'll go with T. sylvestris which I had dismissed because I thought it was quite a lot bigger than this one, but certainly it's much like the illustration in Phillips and Rix. The leaves are narrower perhaps and the flower has a slight reddish tinge at the edges but that may just be aging. Anyway, thanks everyone. I guess I can expect it to wander around then?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 14, 2008, 07:22:23 PM
Joakim, the iris is in a pot (a planter bag) because it's a nursery plant. I have a large patch in the garden but it's rather weedy at present. The planter bags are good for my nursery plants for three reasons. 1 - they're MUCH cheaper than pots, 2 - because they are squashable I can fit fit more into the trays I use in the nursery, 25 instead of 20 per tray and 3 - because they fit closely together and also because they go straight down instead of sloping to the base (and therefore hold more compost, more room for roots) they require much less water to keep the plants in good growing condition. I have only rain water here, unless I buy more, no town supply. I admit they're not pretty but in the long run I can make better quality nursery plants with them and that's what matters. Normally, I would grow all (well, most) irises in the garden with no root restrictions. The bags come in sizes from 3/4 up to about 80 litres and many trees are sold here in them, some bags in the bigger sizes even having handles. The little bearded irises are fine in bags for a season and if they're not sold by then I would take them out and divide and replant. But they always ARE sold. :D
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on October 14, 2008, 10:58:59 PM
That tiny N. gaditanus is a gem.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 15, 2008, 08:10:05 AM
A few things shot in haste this morning.
Two from the Shadehouse,
Pelargonium incrassatum
[attachthumb=1]
Chamaecytissus pygmaea, grown from SRGC Sdx 2006, and in flower in just over 2 years but embarassingly, still in the seedpot!
[attachthumb=2]
In the Rock garden, Calochortus amabilis, which I thought I'd lost until I saw it about to bloom!
[attachthumb=3]
Also in that part of the Rock garden, Dianthus anatolicus ( received as D. echidiformis), I sent seed of this to one of the Seedexes last year so I hope someone else is now growing it!
[attachthumb=4]

[attachthumb=5]
On a larger scale, we have the king's spear, Asphodeline lutea,
[attachthumb=6]

[attachthumb=7]
A rather ragged Dichelostemma pulchellum,
[attachthumb=8]
and one of my favourite Evening Primroses, Oenothera acaulis,
[attachthumb=9]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on October 15, 2008, 08:22:51 AM
Beautiful as ever ... many thanks Fermi.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on October 15, 2008, 09:58:37 AM
A few things flowering in my garden that I photographed after work.

Myosotidium hortensia blue

Myosotidium hortensia white

An  orange azaela

Paeonia mlokosewitschii

Last Chionohebe densifolia
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on October 15, 2008, 10:05:42 AM
Thanks Fermi and David

Beautiful plants to brighten up a miserable day here.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Joakim B on October 15, 2008, 10:56:50 AM
Nice plants Fermi and David  8)
David no hint of red on this peony as was seen on the one Paul showed earlier. I like them both anyway :)
Thanks for the information Lesley I presumed they were either on their way in or out and You have 3 strong reasons for the bag that I can not disagree with maybe squered pots would be an alternative regarding filling a tray but they are generally not "straight" so might lose out on points 1 and 3. Even if the bags are not that nice looking after buying the plant, one takes it of so who cares :)
Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 15, 2008, 09:11:44 PM
This has been posted elsewhere but southern thread readers and lurkers may like to see it as well. I visited a Southland nursery yesterday and found a large batch of our rare and endangered Ranunculus godleyanus in flower. There were probably more here, all raised from their own seed for many generations, than there are in the wild now!

[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]

The only other pic I took was of Lewisia tweedyi rosea.

[attachthumb=3]

I got distracted by nototriches, shortias, dionysias, onco irises etc and forgot I had a camera with me. I also chose some of the late Alistair Blee's rhodos and trilliums. Something of a lucky dip but great value all the same. I'll go back in a couple of weeks and spend another not so small fortune (Govt. superann! ;D) and take more pictures. In the meantime, it's Rhododendron day at the DBG on Sunday and Hokonui will have a stall there, well worth photographing I should think.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 15, 2008, 11:48:23 PM
I hope everyone will join with me in sending our friend Otto their very best wishes and will spare him a thought over coming days. Otto goes into hospital in Melbourne today (in about an hour) for surgery on his spine tomorrow. There is every expectation it will go well and he will be relieved of much pain and anguish which have made his life difficult recently. I certainly hope so, and I send my love Otto for a speedy recovery and return to all the little plants you love so much.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: rob krejzl on October 15, 2008, 11:53:01 PM
Otto,

Best wishes for a speedy recovery
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 16, 2008, 01:00:50 AM
Otto had asked me to pass on his wishes to the Forum and apologize for his absence due to his impending hospitalization and recovery (away from his computer!); he hopes to be back on deck in a month's time.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 16, 2008, 02:50:10 AM
Here's an amazing plant; I got the seed from NARGS in 2000, sowed it in 2001 and had germinations over the next three years which damped off or rotted before i could plant them out! Then I got one seedling in 2005 (I think) which I planted out into the rock garden and has now come into flower! Only 8 years after I first received the seeds! Asphodeline damescena:
[attachthumb=1]
Making a good show is a dwarf Yellow Wallflower, Erysimum helveticum, seed of which has been sent to the seedexes!
[attachthumb=2]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 16, 2008, 02:58:22 AM
Lesley,

That Ranunc is amazing.

Fermi,

What exactly IS that plant you posted a pic of?  Am I missing something, or didn't you put a name to it?  I am assuming that it is not the Erysimum helveticum!  ;) :P
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 16, 2008, 03:48:25 AM
Is it Xerophyllum tenax? $1000 to the first SHer to guess (from Fermi ;D). I'm just getting in before Dave T who grows it. I do too (one of Dave's) but very small as yet. Otherwise known as bear grass, if it IS that.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 16, 2008, 07:49:24 AM


Fermi,

What exactly IS that plant you posted a pic of?  Am I missing something, or didn't you put a name to it?  I am assuming that it is not the Erysimum helveticum!  ;) :P
How silly of me! I labelled the pic but then embedded it so that you couldn't see the label!
I'll amend it to show that it's Asphodeline damascena (? not sure about the spelling now!)
Is it Xerophyllum tenax? $1000 to the first SHer to guess (from Fermi ;D). I'm just getting in before Dave T who grows it. I do too (one of Dave's) but very small as yet. Otherwise known as bear grass, if it IS that.
If only! Tim has some seedlings growing but the one I got from Roy Pavelin last year didn't survive the transplanting!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on October 16, 2008, 06:44:47 PM
Fermi, if you get a chance please pass on my best wishes to Otto and indeed I hope he is soon back in full form.

Enjoyed your pics by the way.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 16, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
I am quite sure that there will be many forumists, like Ian and myself, who are most anxious about Otto's surgery and who wish him a speedy and complete recovery........let's hope good wishes can pass across the world to him  :-* 8) :-*
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on October 16, 2008, 07:16:32 PM
Fermi,please pass on to Otto my wishes for a speedy recovery,and return to good health.

Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 16, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
An Asphodel? Oh damn! I won't be getting your $1000 then. :'(
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 16, 2008, 08:46:03 PM
Best wishes to Otto for a full and speedy recovery from this part of the world as well !!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 17, 2008, 01:50:49 AM
Lesley,

Given that Fermi supplied hte name I don't think that anyone will be getting the grand!!  ;D
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 17, 2008, 03:01:37 AM
Yeah, a pity that. :-X
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on October 17, 2008, 10:38:17 AM
Yes Fermi can you pass on my best wishes for a speey recovery to Otto too. Fermi I too have a Calochortus amabilis in flower now. Looks just like your photo - so I don't need to post it! My camera has trouble with yellows anyway. Summer is certainly on its way with 30C today and higher tomorrow. The roses will be in full flush for the following weekend if the aphids leave them alone - where are you predator wasps? - idly flying in I imagine.
Pat
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 21, 2008, 04:24:46 AM
I've had a chat to Otto on the phone and although he is somewhat subdued, I think he is confident - and he says his doctors are - that all will be well (and not so painful) soon. He asked me to pass along to all his well-wishers, his grateful thanks for your kind words and thoughts. They are much appreciated.

On Sunday I went to Dunedin Botanic Gardens where an annual Rhododendron Day sale is held as precursor to the city's annual Rhododendron Festival. Nurseries sell whatever they can and give 10% of their takings to the Dn Hort Society who give it to the Friends of the DBG, for work not funded by Dunedin City Council. It is usually a great scramble for plants but I arrived very early and found people still setting up, very few public about. Here are a few pics.

[attachthumb=1]
This is my favourite nurserywoman but not willing to face the camera.

[attachthumb=2]
Some of the goodies

[attachthumb=3]
This couple were selling a few of my own for me. I haven't had a stall there for the last 2 or 3 years but intend to, in 2009.

[attachthumb=4]
Dave Young is an ex President of the Hort Soc. He is very pround of his poppies, these being taken to the tea kiosk for decoration of the tables.

[attachthumb=5]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 21, 2008, 04:33:16 AM
And I just have to flaunt my Gentiana acaulis again, it is so good this year - well every year actually - always reliable.

[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=3]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on October 21, 2008, 07:39:31 AM
Superb Lesley ... very even flowering ... each trumpet a clone of its neighbour ...
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 21, 2008, 01:04:13 PM
Elegant gentians and flamboyant poppies... all a delight!

So pleased to hear that the news is positive from dear Otto...... hope he can feel the good wishes wafting his way!!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 21, 2008, 11:39:13 PM
So pleased to hear that the news is positive from dear Otto...... hope he can feel the good wishes wafting his way!!
I hope to speak to Otto this morning to pass on all your good wishes. PM me if you want his bedside phone number!, just remember the time difference from Europe! It's  9:30 am now.
Here's a few pics from the garden at Redesdale.
Calochortus superbus, first flower for the season,
[attachthumb=1]
Iris "clusii"
[attachthumb=2]
Daphne alpina
[attachthumb=3]

[attachthumb=4]
And a close-up of Asphodeline damascena whose flowers open in the afternoon,
[attachthumb=5]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 22, 2008, 03:57:10 AM
Iris "clusii" looks pretty much like I. reichenbachiana.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 22, 2008, 04:36:12 AM
I've just spoken to Otto who is still in a bit of pain but hopes to be home next week after a short stay at his cousins from this weekend.
He asked to send his thanks for all the kind wishes from members of the Forum.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 22, 2008, 11:29:35 AM
I've just spoken to Otto who is still in a bit of pain but hopes to be home next week after a short stay at his cousins from this weekend.
He asked to send his thanks for all the kind wishes from members of the Forum.
cheers
fermi


That is SUCH good news!   I'm sure it is not easy to recover from such tricky surgery and I reckon that slow and steady is the best way to go with getting well again. Many thanks for the update, Fermi.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 22, 2008, 11:44:15 PM
I'm sure Otto will be eager to get back to the Forum once he's home and able to access his computer again. I'll pass on any messages to him.
I was a bit bleary-eyed when I took the next few pics and unsurprisingly so were so of the flowers! This Calochortus catalinae had its eyes only half open!
[attachthumb=1]
And in the Shadehouse Allium crispum,
[attachthumb=2]
But you ask, "What's that in the background? Can there still be tulips this late in the year?"
Yes, it's a single bloom of Tulipa tetraphylla first flowering from SRGC Seedex 2004!
[attachthumb=3]
It might be a bit more open when I get home this evening.
In the rock garden a race of dianthus hybrids has produced a rather strangely spotted one, which I might name "Spotted Quoll" after one of our native marsupials - if it turns out to be different enough to be worth naming.
[attachthumb=4]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 23, 2008, 12:43:24 AM
Fermi,

Fantastic pics.  Different things flowering for you than me at the moment (although we both have the Irises!  ;D).  Great to see.

Please pass on the best from Yvonne and I to Otto too.  I'd love to phone him but I always get paranoid about waking people when they're convalescing, so please let him know we're thinking of him and hoping him an amazingly quick recovery.  8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 23, 2008, 08:26:32 AM
Some stuff from my garden at the moment.......

[attachthumb=1]
Arum dioscoridis var smithii

[attachthumb=2]
[attachthumb=3]
[attachthumb=4]
This is an Azalea mollis variety which I do not have a name for.  Relatively small flowers (similar in size to the yellow double "Narcissiiflora that I posted pics of last spring) on a fairly compact plant.  This isn't a "hose-in-hose" type, but rather has converted stamen as can be seen in some of the flowers.  I've only ever seen this for sale once, and I have no idea of the name.  Anyone have any idea?

[attachthumb=5]
[attachthumb=6]
The delightful Fritillaria camschatcensis, the last of the Frits in flower for this year.  My only plant, but it flowers religiously every single year but never sets seed on itself unfortunately.  ::)  Must check for rice grains and try to build up numbers in the future as it has never produced an offset as yet and I would so like more of them.

[attachthumb=7]
These are some Gazanias that I have growing out on my nature strip.  Never watered, never looked after, they still give us months of flowers.  A great splash of colour.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 23, 2008, 08:37:55 AM
And a couple more....

[attachthumb=1]
Haberlea rhodopensis (syn. R. fernandi-coburgii), with thanks to Otto for his generosity last year.  Thanks Otto!!  8)

[attachthumb=2]
Moraea lurida

[attachthumb=3]
Paeonia officionalis 'Rubra Plena' (unsure whether spelling of species name is correct?) is always difficult to photograph as it never comes out the wonderfully intense colour it is in reality.

[attachthumb=4]
One of my Wisteria, this one is Wisteria floribunda 'Alba', standardised onto a rose wheel as most of them are in my garden.

[attachthumb=5]
[attachthumb=6]
And lastly for this topic is Rhododendron 'Tyermanii'.  Being my name-sake and all it is something I just HAVE to grow.  Have seen it written as a species name as well as a cultivar name in quotes, so I am unsure which is actually is.  Wonderful bark on the trunk, plus these pristine white flowers.  Does anyone know who the Tyerman this was named after was?  It and Davalia tyermannii (silver hares-foot fern) are the only two plants involving my name that I've been able to find.  There are other Rhodos flowering now as well, but not sure if they're of interest or not?

I'll also post a few pics in the Orchid section, and the Iris section.  Enjoy. 8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 23, 2008, 01:45:54 PM
Paul, does your namesake rhodo smell as good as it looks?

Please post LOTS os rhodo pix in the Ericaceae section...... need a fix!!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 23, 2008, 08:37:48 PM
I do like the Moraea. Lurid indeed.

Paul, Haberlea rhodopensis and H. ferdinandi-coburgi are separate species, not synonyms. The former has slightly smaller flowers and foliage while the latter has glossier leaves. The white virginalis is a var. of rhodopensis.

Maggi, you didn't like my little one of Oct 5th?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 23, 2008, 08:58:03 PM
Quote
Maggi, you didn't like my little one of Oct 5th?
I did indeed, Lesley.... saw it when at the discussion weekend when i had a sneaky peek at what you were all up to, but no time to commnet then!! 
Very charming Rhododendron keiskei cordifolia... (in the Rhodo section of forum) indeed!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 23, 2008, 09:40:35 PM
I am having a rare experience at the moment. Mary has gone to a garden club meeting in Cork, 80 miles away, and John, our youngest is still at school, so a very quiet house here. I have wined and dined on my own, walked the dog in atrocious weather and have enjoyed the last while, with coffee and cake, going back over this thread. What wonderful flowers, really beautiful.

Lesley, your friend Alan's poppies are out of this world, an amazing size and extraordinary flowers.

And, Paul, the Haberlea and Moorea are simply outstanding, absolutely beautiful and perfectly photographed.

Do give my best wishes to Otto. Of course, he won't know from Adam who I am but assure him that an anonymous fellow in Ireland has enjoyed his company through this forum and wishes him well.

Paddy
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on October 23, 2008, 10:43:50 PM
Paul, Moraea lurida is a beauty!
And the Paeonia officionalis 'Rubra Plena' is the right spelling I think.
Just one o to much.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 23, 2008, 11:01:13 PM
Paul - Your rhododendron namesake is R. nuttallii x formosum and is an oldie.  Registered in 1889 by J.S. Tyerman, Penlee,Tregony, Cornwall (Previously at Liverpool Botanic Gardens) according to The International Rhododendron Register and Checklist. A real beauty.

Unfortunately I have to live with Weigela.

johnw
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 23, 2008, 11:29:27 PM
Lesley,

I was just going by Otto's labelling of the Haberlea when he sent it to me, which is why I labeled it that way.

Luit, Paddy, Maggi... glad you're enjoying the pics.

John,

Thanks for the info.  I thought it was an old one, but you can understand my interest in it, given my name.  ;D  Lovely bark too, as I mentioned, and slightly furry leaves.  I don't think it has a perfume though Maggi, but I will try to remember to check that for you this afternoon.  I have some cut and kept in the cool at the moment, as we have a Horticultural Society show this weekend and want to put a truss in just to show it.  Not comparable to more modern types, but still lovely.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 23, 2008, 11:34:21 PM
With that parentage, R. 'Tyermannii ' should have a lovely scent, ...... those are both yummy scented flowers  8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 23, 2008, 11:49:01 PM
I rather enjoy the fact that Juniperus coxii is the coffin juniper. But I can come a little closer than that in that Rhododendron edgarianum was named for my mother's uncle (or possibly great uncle). He was a doctor with the Chinese Inland Mission.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 24, 2008, 01:58:45 AM
I have some cut and kept in the cool at the moment, as we have a Horticultural Society show this weekend and want to put a truss in just to show it.  Not comparable to more modern types, but still lovely.

Paul  - You may know the old trick for showing rhodos.  I mention as these nuttallii types are notorious for collapsing just before the judges arrive. Just recut the stem, hit the bottom 4-5 inches of the stem with a hammer to flatten and plunge in hot water, they recover miraculously.

Like Maggi I bet the fragrance is great. And good grief I missed the second bottom picture of 'Tyermanii' - spectacular!  A friend says you can root these Maddenia in water - have you tried it?

Lesley  - Isn't edgarianum rather rare?  If you have it can you post a shot?

johnw
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 24, 2008, 03:09:27 AM
Paul - This may interest you. I was thumbing through Sir Peter Smithers' book Adventures of A Gardener and found a whole section on R. 'Tyermanii'.  He says it is scented and considers it "the finest rhododendronI had ever seen"!  See pages142-144.

He eventually lost his after 10 years and was unable to find it again in Britain. Peter Cave located it in New Zealand and sent him sone material and he re-established it.

He says the "extremely large trumpet flowers looking one directly in the eye". That's what impressed me with your photo - it really has dagger eyes.

Not that I need another tender tub plant, however...

johnw
 

Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 24, 2008, 03:36:47 AM
John,

Thanks for the extra info, particularly re showing them.  No, I didn't know to do that and will definitely keep it in mind.  Yes, the 'Tyermanii' flowers look straight out at you.  As to the size of flowers.... they're large, but nowhere near something like 'Kallista' which has absolutely massive flwoers (just finishing up here).

If you're needing cutting material I can try sending it to you.... or should I try striking some cuttings for you here and then send you a plant if I am successful?  ;)  It isn't a small plant though.... it wants to grow to a reasonable size I think.... currently about 7 foot tall, and that is only bevcause I hit it hard a couple of years ago to try to make thicker stems than it had (i.e it was leaning over and not holding the flowers up properly).
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 24, 2008, 04:25:56 AM
Alas I don't have Rh. edgarianum. It was in NZ at one stage maybe 30 years ago. I don't think I've come across it since.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 24, 2008, 04:31:28 AM
Again alas, Peter Cave is no more. Or rather, his nursery is no more. He gave up last year and went surfing or something. An outstanding source of new and rare plants, especially species, rather than cultivars, gone forever. His rationale was that the system had beaten him: MAF restrictions, ERMA (Environmental Risk Management Authority) etc, all combining to make it impossible to introduce new material, or only rarely and at astronomical cost.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 24, 2008, 07:03:00 AM
I was able to get a more open Calochortus catalinae this morning,
[attachthumb=1]
But I had to bring the pot of Tulipa tetraphylla in to the office to be able to photograph it when it openned up!
[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=3]
In the Rock Garden, the Asphodeline lutea and Nectaroscordum siculum are in bloom
[attachthumb=4]

[attachthumb=5]
And another pic of Asphodeline damascena, whose flowers open in the late afternoon.
[attachthumb=6]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 24, 2008, 11:04:23 AM
Fermi,

Love that last Asphodeline.  Each pic you've posted is better than the last.  8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on October 24, 2008, 07:49:52 PM
Your rock garden looks lovely, Fermi. Can you show us some wider shots?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 27, 2008, 03:21:45 AM
Your rock garden looks lovely, Fermi. Can you show us some wider shots?
Hi Anne,
here are some pics I took to show the main Rock Garden,
looking across the top of the highest part of the NRG (New Rock Garden)
[attachthumb=1]
Looking down the rock steps between the Bulb Beds (on the left) and the URG (Upper Rock Garden)
[attachthumb=2]
The east end of the CM (Central Mound), with a daphne alpina in the centre of the pic
[attachthumb=3]
"Wave Rock" with native section to the right
[attachthumb=4]
"Wave Rock" with "The Amph" to the left; I make no apology for photographing the sprinkler, it's a sign of great indulgence to be able to have one running these days (we're not on "town water", we have our own bore pump)
[attachthumb=5]
The central part of "the Amph" (short for the amphitheatre which is what it looked like before we planted it out); note the waterfall of dymondia cascading down the front.
[attachthumb=6]
The Bulb Beds with self sown acacia
[attachthumb=7]
the South side of CM (CM S/S) with another shrub that's really too large for a rock garden, Salvia africana-lutea.
[attachthumb=8]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 27, 2008, 04:17:08 AM
Fermi,

Great shots.  Reminds me I never did end up posting the ones I took at your place when I was down there.  Excellent pics to capture it.... must try some Dymondia by the look of it..... that is the one with the appearance of being a small variegated Gazania, isn't it?

To all others viewing...... Fermi's rock garden is inspirational.  I was blown away when I saw it in person.... the scale is larger than it looks in the photos (well to me at least).  So many wonderful things amongst it too, and out in the open sun yet so many bits and pieces tucked away in protected areas.  I so wish I had the space for something like that at my place, but not a chance!! ::) 
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on October 27, 2008, 06:50:50 AM
Super images of a wonderful garden, Fermi ... many thanks for your successive postings.
Kindest regards to Otto please.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on October 27, 2008, 06:59:24 AM
Fermi, really 'inspirational' pictures of your garden.I always love to see more in a garden than just a
picture of one plant/flower!
The surroundings make how a plant is doing in a garden.
Would like to know what the Gladiolus like plant is in pict. 3, next to the Daphne alpina?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 27, 2008, 07:35:07 AM
Fermi, really 'inspirational' pictures of your garden.I always love to see more in a garden than just a picture of one plant/flower! The surroundings make how a plant is doing in a garden.
Would like to know what the Gladiolus like plant is in pict. 3, next to the Daphne alpina?
Hi Luit,
thanks for your kind words; the tall willowy plant is the blue Ixia, "Teal" ,which is often distributed as Ixia viridiflora, but isn't as far as I know!
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]
Paul,
yes, the dymondia is the one we discussed recently with Pat Toolan.
Cliff,
I'll pass on your regards if I can talk to Otto tonight or by Thursday when he's home again.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 27, 2008, 08:12:47 AM
Wonderful pix Fermi !
I love your garden - absolutely beautiful - "Wave Rock" is a very good looking feature. When I look around, I tend to think that weeds are an extinct species in the SH  ;D
Thanks for showing us around.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 27, 2008, 09:08:22 AM
Fermi,

Ixia viridiflora is not the same as yours.... it is a different colour and has a wonderfully dark centre.  I think I still have it, but can't 100% guarantee.  Is your blue the same as the 'Amethystina'?  It's fantastic in a big clump, but I find unless divided periodically it just dies out if left to it's own devices.  Maybe it likes a bit of disturbance to renew food or something?  The viridiflora is smaller and a bit more delicate.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on October 27, 2008, 11:58:30 AM
Thanks Fermi,
could you tell more about Ixia Teal, where it comes from, breeder, etc?
This cv. is not known in Holland.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Susan on October 27, 2008, 08:02:24 PM
Fermi, wonderful photos.  So good to see the scale of your garden - huge.  Did you have those rocks on the property or did you have to bring them in?

Say hi to Otto and wish him a speedy recovery.

Susan
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 27, 2008, 10:00:36 PM
At my Farmers' Market I have a vendor who sells South African and Australian Protaceae, which were growing in the paddock next to the house she and her husband bought a couple of years ago. (They bought the paddock too.)

Here are some from Saturday.
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]

[attachthumb=3]

[attachthumb=4]

[attachthumb=5]

[attachthumb=6]

There is a Hakea (the little pink bunches up a stem in pic 1), several proteas, leucodendrons and a waratah.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 27, 2008, 10:22:05 PM
It's a bad day for pictures today with strong nor'west winds. The temp is to go to 26C then plunge as the wind turns to the south with snow to 600m. Our usual predictable NZ spring weather!

[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]
Lathyrus laxiflorus is a super plant which takes drought happily. This is never watered through the year, with maybe a couiple of months without water (rain) in summer.

[attachthumb=3]
Houstonia caerulea is pretty but flowers more sparsley then its white form.

[attachthumb=4]
Erigeron aureus is always good but I wish it would set fertile seed.

[attachthumb=5]
This is tiny Dianthus 'Whitehill' and there are 3 plants in this little group, in a raised bed.

[attachthumb=6]
A lovely Pacific Coast Iris seedling
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 27, 2008, 10:25:20 PM
Thanks Fermi,
could you tell more about Ixia Teal, where it comes from, breeder, etc?
This cv. is not known in Holland.
Hi Luit,
"Teal" is what I've known it as for many years but it may be listed as "Amethystina" which is what Paul has it as. I don't know anything about its history except that it continually turns up in catalogues "disguised" as Ixia viridiflora(!), which is different as Paul has indicated as well.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 27, 2008, 10:31:51 PM
Fermi, wonderful photos.  So good to see the scale of your garden - huge.  Did you have those rocks on the property or did you have to bring them in?

Say hi to Otto and wish him a speedy recovery.

Susan
Hi Susan,
it was a bit like bringing "coal to Newcastle", but our property had been cleared of virtually all the large rocks ( we did unearth a few whoppers) and we had to buy in all of these large ones and collect smaller ones from neighbouring blocks (with permission!). The Rock garden itself covers an area about 10m x 10m which is bigger than most backyards these days! Because of the space we can afford to use large rocks which would be impractical in most suburban blocks.
I'll pass on your regards to Otto when I speak to him,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 27, 2008, 10:54:58 PM
At the NZAGS Study Weekend back last January. I bought 2 small plants of Daphne petraea 'Persebee.' Even then they had incipient buds, now open.
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]

One of my Rhododendron Day sale purchases (there were many!) was Clematis foetida. Far from being foetid, it has a delicious perfume and is very pretty to boot.
[attachthumb=3]

This is a clematis of 2 halves, the first pic showing the original plant and the second showing a sport which has appeared this year.
[attachthumb=4]

[attachthumb=5]

Ranunculus parnassifolius is happier in a trough than its previous pot. The others are a white Saponaria ocymoides and an almost finish Armeria juniperifolia 'Beavan's Variety' from which I should have removed the deadheads. There is a not quite dead Salvia to the left.
[attachthumb=6]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 28, 2008, 02:55:08 AM
6 to finish with.

[attachthumb=1]
This is one of the late Alistair Blee's collection, being distributed by Hokonui Alpines, Trillium erectum album

[attachthumb=2]
and my T. pusillum v. ozarkanum

[attachthumb=3]

[attachthumb=4]
The gorgeous Rubus x Tridel 'Benendon.' I love this plant.

[attachthumb=5]
Primula reidii in its white form which I think is var. williamsii

[attachthumb=6]
and finally, a mystery primula for which I'd like some information or even better, an ID. It has been in NZ for many years as Primula "Wockii," a name for which I can find no reference and I'm pretty sure doesn't exist. So some bright spark decided it must be Primula rockii, which does exist and is yellow (but not THIS yellow, more a burnt orange shade really), but this isn't it (see illustration AGS Bulletin Vol 19, No 1, page 35). I'm sure it belongs to the Vernales section and seems to be, in effect, a sort of polyanthus and has the typical sweet scent of polys. It can be made to set seed with other vernales prims, such as polys and primroses.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 28, 2008, 05:24:55 AM
Beautiful, Lesley.  Particularly that beautiful white Ranunc and the Trilliums.  Excellent!!  8)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Gerdk on October 28, 2008, 08:23:56 AM

and finally, a mystery primula for which I'd like some information or even better, an ID. It has been in NZ for many years as Primula "Wockii," a name for which I can find no reference and I'm pretty sure doesn't exist. So some bright spark decided it must be Primula rockii, which does exist and is yellow (but not THIS yellow, more a burnt orange shade really), but this isn't it (see illustration AGS Bulletin Vol 19, No 1, page 35). I'm sure it belongs to the Vernales section and seems to be, in effect, a sort of polyanthus and has the typical sweet scent of polys. It can be made to set seed with other vernales prims, such as polys and primroses.

Lesley,
Sorry, I can help you only a little bit concerning the name.
There is a Primula marginata ' Wockei ' - a cross of P. marginata and P. arctotis - and of course not your plant. The name ' Wocke ' is well known here in Germany because Erich Wocke is the Author of   ' Kulturpraxis der Alpenpflanzen ' (practise for cultivating alpine plants) - still one of the best reference books in German although from 1940!

Gerd
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on October 28, 2008, 09:55:28 AM
Lesley

Gerd and I had this morning seemingly the same thoughts, when seeing your pictures.
I needed some time for looking up, but here is my result:

P. x wockei, mentioned in your description of the yellow Primula is a hybr. of  Pr. x arctotis with
Pr.  marginata.
(P. x arctotis is a hybrid of P. hirsuta with P. auricula) when I am right, because there are
several opinions about that.
P. x pubescens is one of the other names for the same hybrid.
It is all very complicated, because in earlier days the British were seldom on the same line with the
European, (German) authors.
P. x wockei was raised in the nursery of Erich Wocke in Oliva near Danzig (now Gdansk)
The flower color is somewhat like a P. Linda Pope, I believe.
I hope this is a bit helpful for you??
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on October 28, 2008, 10:13:47 AM
"Teal" is what I've known it as for many years but it may be listed as "Amethystina" which is what Paul has it as. I don't know anything about its history except that it continually turns up in catalogues "disguised" as Ixia viridiflora(!), which is different as Paul has indicated as well.
cheers
fermi
Thank you Fermi, both viridiflora and Amethystina are not in culture in Holland as far as I know.
At least they are not registrated here.
But I like the one you showed very much, because its long inflorescence and the bluish color!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 28, 2008, 03:37:55 PM
Lesley - Wonderful plants especially that delicious Clematis. What is the lowest temperature you see there?

And that Ixia Fermi, what a colour!

Great to see Spring down there as winter approaches here.

johnw    -  +13c with a rainstorm approaching; no frost so far. N. bowdenii just opening here.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: dominique on October 28, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
Hi Lesley
I like too your Rubus and Clematis. Thank you for the pics
Dominique
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 28, 2008, 08:15:47 PM
Thank you everyone, and especially for the information about Erich Wocke and his primula, CERTAINLY not mine. So I'm no further forward really. It doesn't really matter except that I hate wrong names on my plants and would like to clear this one up. I'll keep looking. It would help if I knew when it came to NZ and the source, but I haven't been able to find those out.

John, Clematis foetida is a sort of "edge of bush" plant, scrambling through and up low trees such as manuka (Leptospermum scoparium) and others. Such areas get snow in winter and probably a good deal of frost too in some areas where snow isn't consistent, and the ground is subject to freeze/thaw conditions. In my own garden I get to about -5C but I know it will take quite a bit lower than that. If there's seed later, would you be interested in some?

We had 28C here yesterday but back to 14 today!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on October 28, 2008, 09:08:04 PM
Lesley,

The first plant does not look much like foetida to me. The flowers are not yellow enough.  I think you were had. The second plant  looks like a marmomaria hybrid. Clematis foetida is flowering profusely at the moment in various places around Dunedin.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 28, 2008, 09:54:15 PM
Well if not foetida, what is it? I bought it from Peter Cooke. I don't feel "had" as I bought it for its flowers and perfume, not for its label.

The second is from Dick King, yes, a marmoraria hybrid, possibly with foetida but he wasn't sure.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on October 28, 2008, 10:28:23 PM
Lesley,

Both are lovely plants but neither is foetida - Although I am presently at work and am waiting for another program to run I just happened to have a picture of foetida in my pocket. Flash drives are wonderful things!
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 28, 2008, 10:34:27 PM
Lesley,

I think I would have run up the overdraft in the bank had I been at that plant sale. You got a wonderful selection of plants. May they grow well for you now,

Paddy
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 29, 2008, 02:32:53 AM
Yes Paddy, the sale is always fun and there are always good things to buy :)

So what is mine then David?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 29, 2008, 03:59:43 AM
Luit and John,

If Fermi's is the same as mine it can in ideal conditions get to maybe 5 foot tall in an established clump (i.e probably a bit of competitition with itself).  I've not had it set seed here, but will keep an eye out for any this season as I have if flowering in a pot at my place at the moment too.  The other good thing about it is that it doesn't flop like so many of the other Ixias... tending to stand good and straight instead of leaning over.  Good multiplier too, although as I said I find it tends to die out if you don't divide it up every few years.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 29, 2008, 07:27:15 AM
Luit,
in our garden the ixia only gets to 4 and a half feet tall ;D
If you are able to receive corms from Australia please sned me a PM with your postal address and I'll send you a few, but of course, you'll have to "turn them 'round" to your seasons!
Here are a few things in our garden,
Clematis "Westerplatte"
[attachthumb=1]
The unusual brown Dutch iris Thunderbolt, (at least I received it as that but there is some discussion about it being a Spanish Iris!)
[attachthumb=2]
Genista lydia is just about at peak bloom!
[attachthumb=3]
This is a dianthus grown from seed as D. sternbergii
[attachthumb=4]

[attachthumb=5]
Saponaria caespitosa, also grown from Seedex seed,
[attachthumb=6]

[attachthumb=10]
A poor shot of a wonderful dryland salvia, S. chamaedryoides,
[attachthumb=7]
One of our local "flax lilies", Dianella revoluta
[attachthumb=8]

[attachthumb=9]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: art600 on October 29, 2008, 09:12:45 AM
Fermides

Your plants have brightened up a frozen morning.  I want a cold winter to rid us of bugs etc, but I wish it would start in December.
Going to the Peloponnese on Friday for 10 days, so hope to find some sunshine and some spectacular plants.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on October 29, 2008, 09:50:18 AM
Going to the Peloponnese on Friday for 10 days, so hope to find some sunshine and some spectacular plants.

Do you require a very inexpensive sherpa, Arthur?
Have a splendid break and take lots of images please.

Wonderful shots as usual, Fermi.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 29, 2008, 09:56:58 AM
Howdy All,

As well as the Iris I have posted down in the iris section, there are a lot of other things in flower in my garden at the moment.  Paeonia 'Kinshe' is a tree paeony and the flowers are huge.  The Rhododendron fastuosum flore-plena is a lovely lavender mauve colour, with double flowers as the name suggests.  And the Hippeastrum cybister is a first flowering from seed sown in about 2000.  Rather intricate and even more delicate than I expected.  I got it from a seed exchange so I don't know whether it is pure species or not.  I just love it.

Enjoy. :D
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on October 29, 2008, 10:19:48 AM
Super images of lovely plants, Paul.
Hope you are keeping well?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 29, 2008, 10:26:21 AM
Cliff,

Thanks.  Yep, I'm keeping well.  Just not having much time to post things as I am working full time now.  Loving it though..... how could one NOT love working at a Botanic Gardens? ;D  Spending your day in the "office" surrounded by wonderful plants, and getting paid for it and all.  :o ;)  At the end of the day I am tired, but happy.  8)

Fermi,

Forgot to mention.... that bronze dutch iris is pretty speccy.  Good colour to it.  Reminds me of a smaller one I used to have a number of years ago called "Bronze Queen" or something like that.  I think I saw it again a couple of years back but what they were selling then was not what I used to have.  The original one was a better colour (like yours is) and more delicate in shape and size.  Not a good grower though unfortunately, so it tended to die out in our climate at least.  Nice to see that there are still good bronzes about though, as the more recent ones either have a lot of mauve in them, or a lot of orangey yellow.  Thanks for the pic (and all the others too).
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 29, 2008, 02:31:09 PM
Great stuff from Down Under everyone - Enjoying every pic  :D you're showing us as we seem to be diving into an early winter... ???
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on October 29, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
John, Clematis foetida iIf there's seed later, would you be interested in some?


Thanks for the offer Lesley but I had best restrict myself to the two tender clematis I have at the moment in the greenhouse - x cartmanii Joe and an ACE sp. that has yet to do anything.

johnw
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 29, 2008, 07:09:06 PM
Yes, Southerners, a great run of photographs, really enjoyed them.

Fermi, I grow some large patches of Dianella tasmanica. The flowers seem very similar to your D. revoluta. Are they very similar plants. Of course, for me at any rate, the purple berries are far more attractive than the flowers. Pity about the foliage which I find is regularly a tatty affair.

Paul, that Hippeastrum is certainly an unusual flower, well captured. Now, as for the brown iris, well that colour in irises is one of my pet hates. Why breed a BROWN iris when there are so many far more attractive colours.

Likewise, another pet hate(yes, I have lots of them), I have seen postings of schisostylis (sp?) and I absolutely hate the things, blasted weeds, running everywhere, no manners at all.

Paddy
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hkind on October 29, 2008, 07:36:38 PM
A lot of gems as usually, Lesley! Thank you for sharing!

Just one comment re Primula reidii. I always thought that var. williamsii was blue. I have both the species and var. williamsii and the flowers of williamsii are bigger and blue.

Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 29, 2008, 07:55:13 PM
Hello Hannelotte, lovely to see you here, in this thread. You are probably right about the Primula but I thought it was the other way around, the blue as the species and the white as the var. Do you get seed on your blue? we seem to have lost it here. I used to have hundreds of both, originally from Jack Drake seed. Now I have just 3 whites and the man who sold those died a few months ago.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hkind on October 29, 2008, 08:28:02 PM
Lesley, I am never sure I got seed or dust when harvesting Primula reidii. The seed is, as you of course know, tiny. But probably I have some seed of var williamsii and could send you some. Let me know your address.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 29, 2008, 08:51:26 PM
Thank you Hannelotte, that's very kind, I'll send a PM to you.

Paddy, what's wrong with brown? There are THOUSANDS of reds/yellow/pinks/blues etc. Brown is relatively uncommon and different. Brown irises look great with yellow flowered plants and with the greenery-yallery euphorbias, alchemillas etc. Don't be unkind to brown. My Ma had an intermediate beared iris called 'Brown Doll' which if I could find it now, I'd give my teeth for, well, maybe a couple of them. It was a taffeta texture on the standards, somewhere between dark and milk chocolate colour, deeper brown velvet falls with a VERY dark choc patch below the beard. Scrumptious.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 29, 2008, 11:52:43 PM
Oh Lesley,

Brown is dull, brown is muddy, brown is dark, brown is dirty, brown is unimaginative, brown is the last resort in flower colours.

OK, so chocolate is brown, my beautiful eyes are brown.

BUT, please, not brown flowers. It just will not do it, never as good as a good blue, clear yellow, startling orange, regal purple.

Well, there's my little bit for tonight.

Paddy
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 30, 2008, 12:28:51 AM
Oh Good, Paddy, since you're around I'll post the pic of the Yucca that's in flower here!
[attachthumb=1]
This is what we grow as Yucca filamentosa;
[attachthumb=2]
How does this compare to yours?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on October 30, 2008, 03:17:39 AM
Brown is strong, brown is rich, brown is cuddly, brown is warm, brown is chocolate, brown is a good steak (on the outside), brown is a glass of Guinness AND your beautiful brown eyes.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 30, 2008, 06:55:54 AM
Near the Yucca are some salvias
[attachthumb=1]
This is Salvia dolomitica,
[attachthumb=2]
Salvia jurisicii is herbaceous and ours is a pale purple shade.
[attachthumb=3]
And because I can't resist it, here's yet another pic of Asphodeline damascena! ;D
[attachthumb=4]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 30, 2008, 07:00:54 AM
Fermi,

All nice.  That S. dolomitica looks rather nice.  A bit like the africana lutea but obviously pinky white in colour?  Nice!  You have a few Salvias I haven't come across before, and it's great to see new ones here in Aus.  :D
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: ranunculus on October 30, 2008, 08:51:09 AM
Brown is dull, brown is muddy, brown is dark, brown is dirty, brown is unimaginative, brown is the last resort in flower colours.

You are all wrong!   Brown is Hovis!


(To all our non-U.K. residents - Hovis is a brand name for a particularly well-known and well-advertised brand of brown bread - the advert that is now etched into many British brains is; 'Don't say brown - say Hovis".

I could also have written:-

Brown is dynamic; Brown is thrifty; Brown is a natural leader; Brown is our saviour; Brown is the new James Bond; Brown is the greatest world leader since Vlad the Impaler ... but we tend to steer away from politics and religion on this forum (and rightly so)!  So I will just remind you all that Brown is our Prime Minister.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on October 30, 2008, 12:03:06 PM
............ and has about as much charisma as our kitchen sink! ::)
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 30, 2008, 07:16:59 PM
Some posts have been lost as the Forum moved over to a new server this afternoon.... here are some of those missing:

PADDY TOBIN WROTE:


Hi Fermi,

Just catching up to your post now; retired to bed after posting last evening.

My yucca is Y. filamentosa 'Bright Edge' (to the best of my recollection) and I wonder if your plant is Y. whipplei? The narrower foliage is what leads me to this name. Y. filamentosa has wider foliage and the cultivar 'Bright Edge', as per the name, has bright edges.

Like the pictures.

Paddy


and  LUIT WROTE:

I agree with Paddy, tried to find out the other name but could not find it -  but Yucca. whipplei
sounds reasonable??
In Holland the one Paddy mentions is grown as Y. filamentosa.


Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: snowdropman on October 30, 2008, 07:31:54 PM
Hi Fermi & Lesley - any news of how Otto is progressing?
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 30, 2008, 09:56:02 PM
Hi Fermi & Lesley - any news of how Otto is progressing?
I'm very remiss for not having passed on Otto's recent message of thanks to all on the Forum who've sent messages!
I spoke to Otto a couple of nights ago at his cousins' place.
He was not allowed to go "home" until Sunday but felt by then things were really improved and he was confident that he would have no major probelms (apart from not being allowed to garden!!!) on his subsequent return to his home. He sounded a lot chirpier and very positive. He should have returned to his own place last night and I will hopefully see him tomorrow.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 30, 2008, 10:01:42 PM
Hi Fermi,

Just catching up to your post now; retired to bed after posting last evening.

My yucca is Y. filamentosa 'Bright Edge' (to the best of my recollection) and I wonder if your plant is Y. whipplei? The narrower foliage is what leads me to this name. Y. filamentosa has wider foliage and the cultivar 'Bright Edge', as per the name, has bright edges.

Like the pictures.

Paddy
Hi Paddy,
quite possible as the naming of plants in Australia can be simple guess work sometimes! We do grow one similar to yours and that flowers late in the summer and this one must be another species, possibly Y. whipplei, which I did have at one stage, so maybe I've just mixed up the names!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: snowdropman on October 30, 2008, 10:03:02 PM
Fermi - many thanks for the update on Otto - very good news - please give him my regards when you see him.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 30, 2008, 10:30:02 PM
More excitement in the garden with some new flowers from seed!
First a penstemon from AGS Seedex, P. californicus.
[attachthumb=1]

[attachthumb=2]
And in the Shadehouse, Linum monogynum from NZAGS Seedex 2007 - I was too chicken to try to separate out the seedlings!
[attachthumb=3]
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 30, 2008, 10:33:21 PM
Fermi - many thanks for the update on Otto - very good news - please give him my regards when you see him.
Hi Chris,
I've just spoken to Otto at home; he's well and thanks you for your wishes.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on October 30, 2008, 11:03:58 PM
Quote
Salvia jurisicii is herbaceous and ours is a pale purple shade.

Did not see this plant here for ages Fermi, though trade offers seed of it here.
In our climate it is better used as a biennial.
But easy from seed.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on October 31, 2008, 12:04:28 AM
Fermi,

Glad to hear that Otto is home and as well as can be expected.  I have delayed emailing him because I figured he wouldn't want lots of emails to go through when he got home.  Please pass on the best from Yvonne and I if you're talking to him, and hopefully I'll be in direct contact by email with him soon.

Thanks for the Otto updates by the way.... it has been great to be able to hear how he's going.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 31, 2008, 11:39:56 AM
We are so pleased to hear that Otto is home and on the mend.  Just had a message in the mail from him, actually, as I was reading these posts!

We are able to spend time with Otto and his garden whenever we like, even from thousands of miles away, because some time ago he sent us a CD with a super Australian TV programme, featuring him and his garden.... a real treat, I can tell you.  It's really nice way to feel close to a man of tremendous talent and personality. We wish you a complete and speedy recovery, Otto!  :-* :-*
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 31, 2008, 02:25:36 PM
Fermi,

That Penstemon californicus is a delicious plant, great grey foliage which would grace the garden even without the attractive flowers.

Glad to hear that Otto is well.

Paddy
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on October 31, 2008, 04:29:21 PM
For Otto, from us all.......

[attach=1]

[attach=2]


[attach=3]

[attach=4]
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 02, 2008, 07:40:44 PM
Otto is indeed feeling better, I spoke to him last evening (my time). The main pain now is from the op itself, where the cut was made, not from the spine which was damaged. He is a bit frustrated not being able to drive or garden but that will come in just a few weeks. He ventured down his steep garden yesterday, with sticks, and had no problems. He expects to be back into the Forum today (Monday).

The time people are kept in hospital nowadays seems almost frighteningly short. One of my Market Trust bosses went into Dunedin Public on Thursday week before last, had op for malignant tumour on Friday and was back home Monday morning. Seems OK though.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on November 02, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
Good to hear Otto is improving Lesley.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: snowdropman on November 02, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
Otto is indeed feeling better

Lesley - this is excellent news - many thanks for keeping us up to date.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Lyttle on November 03, 2008, 10:26:07 AM
Quote
So what is mine then David?

Lesley,

I am going to have to eat humble pie on this one - I now have a clone of your Clematis foetida kindly supplied by Peter Cooke. He told me it originally came from Muriel Davision of Maple Glen. Although it is noticeably different from the common local form of Clematis foetida it apparently keys out as Clematis foetida which is as good an identification as anyone can manage. I guess this is another example the wide amount of variation present within many species of New Zealand plants.
Title: Re: October 2008 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on November 03, 2008, 09:20:39 PM
Thanks for this David. I had wondered about natural variation because so many plants DO vary enormously in the wild, but you being you, I didn't like to argue. I hope your pie tastes good though. ;D
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal