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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Oron Peri on September 20, 2008, 09:23:38 AM

Title: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Oron Peri on September 20, 2008, 09:23:38 AM
P. parviflorum is in flower now, it is common in Israel in different habitats, growing in  heavy shade under trees or in open sunny areas.
Personally i prefer the striking leaves that appear after the first rain.
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Hans J on September 20, 2008, 09:37:08 AM
Hi Oron ,

great to see this plants - I know it only from pics .... :'(

Best wishes
Hans
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Maggi Young on September 20, 2008, 11:58:18 AM
I think Hubi will like this one.... it has leaves like a giant crocus! ;)
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Paul T on September 22, 2008, 11:50:13 AM
Oron,

Very nice.  A species I've not heard of before... and oh those leaves!!!!  :o
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Alberto on October 02, 2008, 08:15:25 PM
Oron, very fine bulbous plant! Is it scented like other Pancratium?

Ciao
Alberto

Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: dominique on October 03, 2008, 11:46:26 AM
Hi Oron
fabulous plant . I like not only leaves, greenish flowers are lovely too. I hope you can have seeds. In this case, I would put me on waiting list!
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Oron Peri on October 09, 2008, 03:05:27 PM
Alberto,

This species doesn't perfume at all, but now that you have asked i will have to check next year
, maybe it perfumes at night...

Dominique, i think there are going to be few seeds in a few weeks, I Will let you know when I have them.
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: dominique on October 27, 2008, 09:58:30 AM
thank you very much Oron
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Hans A. on September 20, 2010, 02:21:32 PM
Vagaria parviflorum started to flower and also Pancratium sickenbergeri will start soon - if slugs are not faster.
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: JoshY46013 on September 20, 2010, 07:45:33 PM
So Pancratium parviflorum is a syn. for Vagaria parviflorum?  

My Pancratium parviflorum leaves are solid :(

Josh
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Hans A. on September 21, 2010, 09:29:24 AM
So Pancratium parviflorum is a syn. for Vagaria parviflorum?  
Yes, please have a look here:
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id=290995&repSynonym_id=-9998&name_id=286087&status=false

Today open: Pancratium sickenbergeri
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Hans J on September 21, 2010, 11:46:34 AM
After Kew is :

Vagaria parviflora is the acceptet name

P.sickenbergerii is a Pancratium
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: JoshY46013 on September 21, 2010, 05:49:09 PM
Do all Pancratium parviflorum have variegation?  Mine doesn't.
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Oron Peri on September 21, 2010, 08:09:31 PM
Do all Pancratium parviflorum have variegation?  Mine doesn't.

Yes Josh, they are.
Do you have a photo of your plant's leaves?, it would be intresting to see it.
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Tony Willis on September 21, 2010, 11:22:51 PM
Oron that is a super plant,beautiful leaves.

The Pancratium sickenbergeri are now in their second year from your seed so I expect it will be some years yet before I see a flower.
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: JoshY46013 on September 22, 2010, 04:47:37 AM
I talked to a few people and they confirmed the identity :) The guy who sent it to me is a very reliable person and he has seen it bloom several timesl.  It's Vagaria parviflora but the leaves are solid!  I'll post a picture tomorrow but  I just received them and the leaves are cut back so there isn't much to see ;( 
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Hans A. on September 22, 2010, 08:28:28 AM
Pancratium parviflorum I also only  know with variegated leaves.

Here a better picture of Pancratium sickenbergeri, it grows in a very dry and extreme well drained bed - even for Oncos it is to dry - unfortunately it seems it is still not dry enough as it normally does not produce the wonderful curled leaves.  ::)
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Oron Peri on September 22, 2010, 09:21:19 AM
Thanks Tony, infact i grow Vagaria parviflora for its leaves rather than flowers. Flowers last usually only a few days and it doesn't bloom regularly over the years, often only few stems in a big clump.
But the Leaves last all winter and they can grow in heavy shade here, showing even better the striped leaves.

Pancratium parviflorum I also only  know with variegated leaves.

Here a better picture of Pancratium sickenbergeri, it grows in a very dry and extreme well drained bed - even for Oncos it is to dry - unfortunately it seems it is still not dry enough as it normally does not produce the wonderful curled leaves.  ::)

Hans,
That is fantastic!!, i don't manage to keep mine in life...In its natural habitat in the Negev Desert, it receive around 100mm or less of rain and  as they grow in pure sand water doesn't last long.
Its perfume is to die for isn't it
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: JoshY46013 on September 22, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
Hans,

   I will get you a pic asap, it's quite rainy today :( 



   The Pancratium sickenbergeri is beautiful as well, does anyone know a source for this or for the Vagaria parviflora with the variegation?
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: Hans A. on September 23, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
Thanks Oron,we have about 800 mm of rain, but in difference to its natural habitat it grows here in nearly pure gravel. So it does fine and flowered for me the last three years. It does not get any protection from rain.
And I agree, the wonderful honey scent of the flowers alone makes it worth to grow. A pitty, but I got not a single seed in the last years.
Title: Re: Pancratium [Vagaria] parviflorum
Post by: BULBISSIME on September 23, 2010, 09:39:09 PM
Lucky you are hans ! I'm still waiting for flowers for 2 years....
But for sure they will come... one day  :P
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