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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Anthony Darby on September 02, 2008, 12:34:56 AM
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Here is a fantastic plant: Roscoea 'Red Gurkha', and a wee unidentified plant from Trinidad.
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Red Ghurka will be a hard plant to beat during September.
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Anthony,
That is a VERY cool Roscoea. Amazing colour. :o
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Roscoea Red Gurkha is a stunner... for anyone who missed it, I recommend a look at Paul C's Wisley log of a couple of weeks ago... see here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/wisley/2008/180808/log.html
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Yes, it's lovely, maybe Roscoeas are worth looking at after all. It's a lot better than the insipid pink R. scillifolia I have received (as R. alpina of course).
Since there isn't a "fruiting now" section I'll put Leila's Podophyllum hexandrum apple in here. A pity it gets hidden under all the foliage.
Someone expressed envy earlier when I mentioned that we have Epipactis helleborine as a weed - we do allow it to remain on the garden fringes. Here's why we aren't over impressed with it - and with a tinge of pink this one is slightly better than the greenish white majority.
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Here is a fantastic plant: Roscoea 'Red Gurkha', and a wee unidentified plant from Trinidad.
Hi Anthony,
the "gurkha" is lovely.
I wonder if your unidentified plant is some sort of Torenia?
cheers
fermi
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I wonder if your unidentified plant is some sort of Torenia?
cheers
fermi
The flowers are about 8 mm across and look very like Lobelia.?
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Hi
Today I can participate with one photo of my lovely Amaryllis belladona.
I hope you enjoy it :)
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The "Lady" is "bella" all right Cris ! ;)
Very nice !
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The "Lady" is "bella" all right Cris ! ;)
Very nice !
Encore :) :) :)
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one photo of my lovely Amaryllis belladona.
I hope you enjoy it :)
I've never seen a colour like this before! Beautiful.
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Wonderful weather and some Colchicum
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Hans
Are you able to identify the Colchicum. They are very beautiful.
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Super images Hans ... and wonderful plants. Many thanks for posting.
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Clethra acuminata always makes me chuckle when I see it flowering---the sideways blooms always seem like they want to go somewhere....
Chasmanthium latifolium starting to colour.
And the Ginko biloba with a superb crop of fruits.
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Someone expressed envy earlier when I mentioned that we have Epipactis helleborine as a weed - we do allow it to remain on the garden fringes.
When my daughter was small and realized the Epipactis was an orchid, she would attempt driving the Kubota tractor around the hundreds of plants when mowing the lawn; they became so thick everywhere it became impossible to keep this up. Now they are mown with the rest of the country weeds, and just keep multiplying.
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Kristl
I would swap my bindweed (Convolvulus) for your epipactis any day.
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Kristl
I would swap my bindweed (Convolvulus) for your epipactis any day.
So would I, Kristl, but I don't have any bindweed....would Tropaeolum speciosum sound like a fair swap?? ::) :P ;)
OOH! I SO want to establish Epipactis here... WHY don't they like me?? :'(
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I notice that the plant growing wild in a neighbour's garden (next door to Sandy) is full of fat green seed pods.
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A few species in bloom right now in the shade gardens...I can't vouch for the proper names of the Aconitums.
Aconitum senanense
Chelonopsis yagiharana (in too much sun).
Kirengeshoma palmata still going strong weeks later.
Aralia cachemirica (very, very similar to A. racemosa)---next picture shows the leaf comparison, with A. racemosa on the left.
The graceful Chelonopsis moschata--which has a wonderful habit.
Aconitum sino montanum.
The beautiful North American native Spigelia marilandica---which never, ever, ever makes a single seed for me!!!!
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And a few plants in the sun...
One of the best Liatris species--L. ligulistylis.
Zinnia grandiflora.
Clematis ispahanica has tiny, but rather interesting flowers, and grey foliage.
Lespedeza bicolor always makes a grand show.
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now here fall in south west germany :
sunflowers
ficus
Schizostylis coccinea
Begonia 1
Begonia 2
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Hans
Are you not getting the torrential rain we are having, or are your plants capable of being taken indoors?
They look superb.
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Arthur ,
I think our climate is different -we have not so much rain as in your area -and here in the river Rhein valley we have a climate more and more like mediterranean area - 40 km of us is the warmest city of Germany .
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Lucky you - this year has been exceptional, unless you live in Devon where David Nicholson seems to have rain like this every year ;) ;D ;)
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Arthur - as everything there is always " a pro and contra" - I can not grow here alpines ,Rhododendrons and similar .
Also I have problems with growing Crocus ,Colchicum and such plants ....
The farmers grows here : Mais, Tobacco,Wine.....
and more and more people grows Bananas in here gardens ( I will take pics )
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Hans
what are your problems with colchicum?? I believe you mean not the cultivars but the species??
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Hagen ,
yes I can not grow well here Colchicum -I have it tried before some years -but never they have survived more than one or two seasons .....I have now lost my interest for this plants 8)
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Some blooming for me now in Okotoks, AB
Digitalis laevigata
Digitalis lanata
Onosma stellulata
and two of my favorite annuals, although Cerinthe minor aurea is more of short lived perennial here. This is its second year and I notice it has set a good amount of seed.
Cerinthe major purpurescens
Cerinthe minor aurea
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Linda,
Those Digitalis are amazing. :o
Interestingly, I have Cerinthe major purpurascens in flower here too at the moment. What is Cerinthe minor aurea like as a plant? I'm assuming the flowers are still to open? I've not heard of it before, which is why I ask. I have a yellow version of Cerinthe major (yellow flowers with a red base), plus the normal one (i.e without the purple leaves around the flowers) and the purpurascens (with the purple leaves around the flowers), but I think they're all C. major, or at least I have no reason to call them minor because they're all the same size. Would love to see a pic of the whole plant of your, and also when the flowers open fully (unless they already are).
Still loving both those Digitalis, and the Onosma too, none of which I've seen before (although I would imagine I have seen pics elsewhere here on the forums of the Digitalis. So great to see new pics of so many new things. Thanks.
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Nice to see Cerinthe species again. I had them for a few years and then they died out. One of those plants that you seem to have for a while and then you realise that they are no longer around. I would suggest saving some of the seed for later in case you have the same experience. They look like seed that would be viable for a number of years.
Love the colour of Digitalis laevigata.
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They are definitely viable for at least a couple of years. Have tried sowing them when a couple of years old and they germinate just fine. No idea how long the limit would be, but would be at least a few years I'd guess.
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Here is something brightening the garden in autunm
Scilla scilloides (first flowers)
White platicodon
Lobelia ?
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Paul,
That is as open as the flowers get on the minor, I'll take a picture of the entire plant today for you. It's got a scrambling habit and flops about but worth it I think. Do you get seed from your yellow major and if so is a swap doable? Can you post a picture, I've never seen it?
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At the bigger end of the scale of alpine plants, Puya berteroniana flowered this summer – 10 years from seed. Last year it surprised me by branching, as opposed to producing an offshoot at the base which is more typical bromeliad behaviour, but perhaps this was a prelude to flowering. The spike began to emerge in early June and eventually reached about 1.2 m. Flowers were deep greenish turquoise, set off by orange stamens and emerald green stigma. Despite tickling no seed was set so perhaps this species is not self compatible – or else it insists on the attentions of hummingbirds and sunbirds!
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Ashley
Well worth the wait
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Some plants flowering here over the last few weeks:
Alstroemeria pallida, sown January 08
Cyclamen colchicum & purpurascens
Romneya coulteri – did well this year despite the rain & cold
Hydrangea macrophylla
Ferns
Arctotis
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Paul, Here's a picture of the entire plant of Cerinthe minor aurea. I've tried tying it up in the past but found it better to give it some space and let it do its thing.
Also an unknown allium blooming now. Note that probably 75 - 80% of the plants in my garden are started from seed from Gardens North. This allium was in a mixed seed package.
Clematis ?? heracleifolia - I thought but the description in 'Clematis The Genus' states the foliage is dark green and this is obviously not. It's just starting to bud out but I don't think our weather will hold and let it bloom. We're already getting frost warnings! >:(
Clematis ?? - This from a climbing mix from GN.
Clematis ?? - This from a rare species mix from GN.
And the final four are all heuchera from a mix from GN of course. I love the variation that came with this mix.
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Linda,
I'll check what seeds I have. Thankfully I try to harvest some each time, as some years it doesn't reappear for some reason. This is one of those years, but I'm 99% certain I have seeds stored. Once I have some germinated I'll send you any remainder I have. So how big does the minor get?
Ashley,
That Puya is stunning. What a colour!!!!!!!!! What sort of temperature requirements do they have? I've heard of the genus but know nothing at all about it really. I think the only time I've seen them is when posted here on the forums. I seem to recall remarking on that incredible colour to someone some year or other. Amazing!!
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Ashley,
I'm with Paul on the Puya - it's a real jaw dropper! Shame it didn't like being tickled!
Best Wishes,
Craig
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Thanks Arthur, Paul and Craig. Yes the colour is unique and extremely beautiful but I found it impossible to photograph accurately.
P. berteroniana has had temperatures briefly down to -5 or -7˚C here without ill effect. Similarly for Pp. alpestris, caerulea, chilensis and venusta, but I have lost some plants of mirabilis. The wet of our winters poses a greater threat, so they are planted in gravely, well-drained soil open to the south (NH).
One of the particular advantages of berteroniana for gardens is that the rosettes are small and leaves are relatively soft. At the other extreme is chilensis which is approaching 2 m in diameter here, is considerably less gardener-friendly than a tangle of razor-wire and has yet to flower!
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Hmmmm.. that much cold eh? Must look out for it.... looks like it could be worth the 10 year wait. Is the inflorescence terminal to the rosette? I think it is with most Broms isn't it? You said yours had branched, so I hope that means you will actually have something left for future years?
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Yes the spike is terminal Paul. However the branch is quite big now so I expect the rosette to survive and perhaps even perform again before another decade passes 8)
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When I was at the Mt Tomah Botanic Garden west of Sydney in 2003, there was a fantastic puya, perhaps alpina, in full bloom and covered with dozens of Australian birds, presumably sunbirds, at least 3 species, all supping honey for all they were worth. Bet that one made seed!
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There are some folks who believe that Podophyllum seed is ephemeral---I know this is not the case with P. hexandrum (emodi), which actually benefits from 6 months+ dry storage.
Does anyone have first hand experience with dry stored seed (6 months or longer) of other species?
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Just from this afternoon - before it started to rain
Sternbergia lutea - always flowering with its leaves
Crocus kotschyanus
Cyclamen hederifolium + Crocus banaticus
Cyclamen cyprium - ex NARGS seeds - the earliest of mines
Gerd
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Beautiful Gerd !! Love the kotchyanus group - I hope they are still upright after the rain.. ???
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Yes, indeed, the kotchyanus group is particularly beautiful.
Paddy
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Lovely to see what is flowering in other people's gardens just now. I have lots of Cyclamen hederifolium. The best plants are in gravel close to the house wall, facing south, most planted after I saw how well self-sown seedlings did in this situation. The others are scattered through the garden probably spread by the large ant population. Colchicum speciosum album has a few flowers and the first flower has appeared on Colchicum aggripinum. Pulchellus is the only autumn crocus I have in the garden. It was introduced in used potting soil and is producing seed so prolifically it will soon take over the whole garden. There are still a few flowers on Gentiana paradoxa and an unnamed sino-ornata is flowering well. I was looking at bumble bees on Sedum 'Indian Chief' when something caught my eye and I was surprised to see a flower on the dwarf bearded iris 'Gingerbread Man'.
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Lovely to see what is flowering in other people's gardens just now. I have lots of Cyclamen hederifolium. The best plants are in gravel close to the house wall, facing south, most planted after I saw how well self-sown seedlings did in this situation. The others are scattered through the garden probably spread by the large ant population. Colchicum speciosum album has a few flowers and the first flower has appeared on Colchicum aggripinum. Pulchellus is the only autumn crocus I have in the garden. It was introduced in used potting soil and is producing seed so prolifically it will soon take over the whole garden. There are still a few flowers on Gentiana paradoxa and an unnamed sino-ornata is flowering well. I was looking at bumble bees on Sedum 'Indian Chief' when something caught my eye and I was surprised to see a flower on the dwarf bearded iris 'Gingerbread Man'.
Your garden sounds great Roma, but a picture says more than 1000 words ;)
I would love to see a photo from your garden.
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Beautiful Gerd !! Love the kotchyanus group - I hope they are still upright after the rain.. ???
Thank you, Paddy and Luc!
Please have a look at them from this morning. The ' kotschyanus ' are relatively unharmed while a lot of the ' banaticus ' lay down. Both and the Sternbergia didn't open during this dull day.
Gerd
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Hello all,
Congratulations for all this marvellous plants,
Here some flowers currently blooming in the garden
Note: Colchicum macrophyllum and Colchicum variegatum
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The sun shone for a brief few hours today in Waterford and I galloped into the garden to take a few photographs. The camera had rust on it as it had been so long since I took it out to the garden.
Nothing special, just what was out at the moment enjoying the brief sunshine.
Paddy
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Another few, Paddy
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Paddy,
you can be prout of your Cyclamen "carpet".
Wunderful!
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Nice patches of Cyclamen Paddy!
Using an underwatercamera? no sign of rust on your pictures.
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After visiting Essen (see General Forum) together with Erich Pasche I took the opportunity to do a few pics in Erich's garden
1. Colchicum - sorry - lost the species name
2. - 4. Cyclamen hederifolium
5. Bessera elegans
6. Tricyrtis stolonifera
7. Sternbergia greuteriana - see long stamina!
8. Sternbergia sicula - a small form
Gerd
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Nice patches of Cyclamen Paddy!
Using an underwatercamera? no sign of rust on your pictures.
Yes, super Cyclamen! Do I spot a single very dark red one in the second pic? ::)
Gerd
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Great pix Paddy and Gerd ! Gorgeous Cyclamen :o
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Lovely pics Paddy and Gerd, they have brightened up a dull day here.
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Gerd,
I'm anxious to see your little treasuries soon ;)
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Gerd,
The red cyclamen is C. cilicium (?) normally sold here as a house plant but I planted it out when it died back and it has grown away here for several years. Reputedly it is tender but is doing fine.
Paddy
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Gerd,
The red cyclamen is C. cilicium (?) normally sold here as a house plant but I planted it out when it died back and it has grown away here for several years. Reputedly it is tender but is doing fine.
Paddy
Paddy,
Your C. cilicicum rang a bell for me - Pasche's Colchicum spec. could be Colchicum cilicicum.
I believe your Cyclamen house plant is a small form of Cyclamen persicum, isn't it? ???
Gerd
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Paddy
I agree with Gerd - the houseplant is almost certainly a Cyclamen persicum. Our local florists claim that they are now hardy, but I doubt it. I am aware that there are breeding programmes to i'inject' some hardiness into the tender species.
Cyclamen cilicium is one of the hardy species. As its flower is gnerally smaller than hederifolium or coum, it is planted in rock gardens and at the edge of gardens.
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Gerd and Arthur,
You are both perfectly correct. Cyclamen persicum it is, indeed.
Mary usually purchases a few of these each autumn to put in pots outdoors. When the pots are needed for something else the cyclamen are turfed out and end up in the garden somewhere. This stray has been in this spot for three or four years. When Mary has forgotten about it, I will throw it out as I don't like the clash of colours.
Paddy
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A couple of things in flower today
sternbergia gruteriana
biarium ohridense.
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I like Biarum ohridense. Certainly not 'orrid!
Garden centres sell packets of Cyclamen cilicium with doctored pictures showing red flowers. This lie seems to be perpetuated every year. The plant in the picture is Cyclamen hederifolium photoshopiensis! >:(
Here are Sternbergia sicula and S. greuteriana.
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Tony, a fantastic biarum. Congratulations
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A couple of things in flower today
sternbergia gruteriana
biarium ohridense.
Tony,
Can't find this Biarum. Kew doesn't list it - is it a new described species?
Wonderful tinted spatha!
Gerd
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Sorry,
I found it (googled with an uncorrect spelling), but the question still remains.
Gerd
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Gerd
I have it from two sources both many years ago and they look the same. I have it from Monocot bulbs who no longer trade, a collection numbered MT4629 and also Paul Christian. I have never looked into the species description but you can see from the time I have had it and the MT reference it is not new.I also have a collection of my own from Mt Parnassus which is very similar. Lake Ohrid is of course not that far seperated geographically from Parnassus.
I have spare if you want one.
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Thank you Tony! I'll send a pm.
Gerd
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Ashley that's a very nice Alstroemeria. Flowering in one season great. Do you grow many others?
Edit by Maggi : refers to this post on page three of this thread....... Re: Flowers and Foliage September 2008
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2008, 09:13:01 PM »
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Some plants flowering here over the last few weeks:
Alstroemeria pallida, sown January 08 /color]
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Only a few so far Mark, and most of these yet to reach flowering size. The pallida was unusually quick.
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For various reasons I have not been able to take many photos but I have Crocus speciosus, Lilium rosthornii and Kirengeshoma in flower, The weather is not really nice and I got a cold.
I got a pic of some seed, however. Paeonia ovalifolium I think.
Last month was a boletus month. We got more than we could take care of.
Also various other fungi (sorry for the bad focus)
I also ask forgiveness for posting a month too late.
Göte.
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What an extraordinary shape and colour, beautiful in its own way.
Paddy
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Another beautiful fungus - found on the Edersee last weekend.
The Edersee is also home for Dianthus gratianopolitanus - we found some out-of-season flowers.
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In summer I planted a strong plant of Crinodendron hookerianum in a some larger pot with an acid soil and put all in a shady place. It grew very good during summer and also started producing flowering buds but they still remain small and are not getting bigger. Is this normal or do I make mistakes?
Thanks,
Arne
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Thomas
Does that beautiful fungus have the added bonus of being edible? ;D
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In summer I planted a strong plant of Crinodendron hookerianum in a some larger pot with an acid soil and put all in a shady place. It grew very good during summer and also started producing flowering buds but they still remain small and are not getting bigger. Is this normal or do I make mistakes?
Hi Arne,
This plant makes tiny flower buds a year in advance, so you should have a nice display next summer. Patience ;)
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Here is one from the garden today, Gladiolus callianthus formerly Acidanthera. BUT, I thought I had seen the same plant at Wisley with a different name that I can't bring to mind.
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Ashley, thanks for this information, I didn't know that before.
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Beautiful Gladi David - how tall is it ??
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Luc, about 80/90 cm, as much as I can get away with in my windy garden.
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Arne, I hope you will enjoy your Crinodendron.... it is a super plant.... good foliage and the buds, which last a very long time, before becoming the fully formed red waxy textured blossoms are a perfect contrast to the foliage. When I first "met" the plant I did not know about the early bud formation either... there are just SO MANY things that are NOT in the books! :-X
We can have some damage to the plants in a very bad winter, but the plants can be cut down hard and still regrow if the worst happens. It is only sometimes though, that we get the really cool seedpods.... but I don't think I have a photo of those, sorry! :-[
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Maggi,
Amazing the difference in our weathers. Crinodendron hookerianum is one of the toughest old reliables here, growing to over 3metres and needing to be kept in check every few years. It is obviously happy here as it sets seed.
Also, doing well in the garden and I really must take a photograph before the flowers are gone is Crinodendron patagua (that's fairly close to the name, I think) which has white flowers with a flared opening to the petals. It is more spreading than C. hookerianum but seems equally hardy, certainly no trouble over the past five years I have grown it.
Paddy
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Well, now, Paddy, that IS interesting....... and would this C. patagua set seed too, or does it come f readily from cuttings?? ::) ;)
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Here is one from the garden today, Gladiolus callianthus formerly Acidanthera. BUT, I thought I had seen the same plant at Wisley with a different name that I can't bring to mind.
Gladiolus murielae.
But when I see it, the name Acidanthera always comes first in my mind.
Aaah, it is not so easy for us seniors, isn't it David? ;)
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Maggi,
C. patagua is self-fertile for me. Perhaps less graceful in flower than hookerianum, which also has the advantage of flowering several times during the year in our climate. Were you wanting seed then?
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Rob, if you have seed, that would be terrific, thank you! 8) I'll pm you postal address :-*
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Maggi,
Spring down here, so there'll be a wait. You may get a better offer in the meantime.
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Of course, Rob... will wait... or let you know if a better offer turns up!! ;)
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Thomas
Does that beautiful fungus have the added bonus of being edible? ;D
Arthur I have no name for it and therefore I didn't dare to taste :-X
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In summer I planted a strong plant of Crinodendron hookerianum in a some larger pot with an acid soil and put all in a shady place. It grew very good during summer and also started producing flowering buds but they still remain small and are not getting bigger. Is this normal or do I make mistakes?
Thanks,
Arne
These buds will flower next spring. Mine is in flower now, but has lots of buds for next spring too.
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Maggi, sometimes there are definitely too few information given as I didn't know all these facts. I hope my crinodendron will survive our winter (one day last year we had even -6°C :o ).
I would be interested in seeds of C: patagua, too. ;D
Does someone also grow C. hookerianum 'Ada Hoffman'?
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I hope my crinodendron will survive our winter (one day last year we had even -6°C :o ).
Arne,
Plants here in Ireland get temperatures briefly down to -5°C or so and never seem to suffer.
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Plants here in Ireland get temperatures briefly down to -5°C or so and never seem to suffer.
Then I have hope. :)
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I have been corrected re the peony seeds. It is P obovata. I mix these names up. Probably because the meaning is so similar. :-[
Thank you Hans :D
Göte
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A walk up country to look for migrant birds produced no birds but any amount of fungi. We leave the picking of these to experts and collect our mushrooms fron Asda or Morrisons.
I think I named the Chanterelles correctly but would not risk eating them. There must have been about 3Kg.of them in the area we looked at. Mushroom picking is not part of the culture in Ayrshire
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Last few. For those interested in such things they were taken on a Nikon D200 and a Tamron SP 90mm macro lense. I couldn't be bothered with a tripod so they were all taken hand-held with me wobbling on a slope and Cindy preparing to catch me if I fell. At 105 Kg., she would have been flattened if I had landed on her!
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The first of a mass of flowers are open. Cobaea pringlei started flowering. I bought it as a measly plant this summer at Bingerden. Fascinated by their flowers I had to buy it and to my surprise it grew up to 5 metres. Original it is from Mexico and therefore not the hardiest. The nurseryman told me that it should be hardy with some protection. Even if it is not hardy it is a nice jungle for a year.
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Tom, very photogenic fungi..... thank you.
Arne, now I must search to find what the form C. hookerianum 'Ada Hoffman' looks like! :-\
I agree with you, even if your Cobaea survives only a year, it is delightful... close to a jungle plant indeed 8)
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Here is one from the garden today, Gladiolus callianthus formerly Acidanthera. BUT, I thought I had seen the same plant at Wisley with a different name that I can't bring to mind.
Gladiolus murielae.
But when I see it, the name Acidanthera always comes first in my mind.
Aaah, it is not so easy for us seniors, isn't it David? ;)
Thank you Luit, when I saw the name at Wisley I thought that since I had an aunt Muriel that I would remember it. The grey cells new otherwise! ;D
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Maggi,
Here is the Crinodendron patagua. You will see that the shrub spreads itself out quite a bit, certainly now wider than it is high whereas Crinodendron hookerianum is more upright in habit or maybe this is because I have it growing among other shrubs where it hasn't much room to spread around.
Apologies for the poor quality of the flower but it is will past its best at this stage of the year. I haven't seen seed on C. patagua to date and haven't bothered to try to slip it. If you would like to try I can certainly put a few pieces in the post - with the cut ends stuck into a spud they should stay fresh on their journey.
Paddy
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Paddy, I would certainly like to try slips... is it legal to send spuds in the post!! ??? ::) :o ;)
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I don't see why not, Maggi.
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I don't see why not, Maggi.
Had vision of really fat envelope, Paddy, getting squashed and yucky!! ::) :P ;D
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I think they would need to be well padded in a box or the plants would become tattie?
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Quite so, Anthony! ;D
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I thought that shipping potatoes was not allowed - and especially to Scotland the home of seed potatoes - because of the risk of virus.
Could you not wrap the slips in moss and a polythene bag.
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Arthur, that thought was behind my original query to Paddy......I've contacted him about it :-\
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I have been watching this forum and Ian's bulb log for some time. I am very impressed by your knowledge and all the beautiful pictures. Now I have joined SRGC and I think its time for my small contribution.
I have a small garden in Denmark. My main interest is autumn bulbs, and especially Sternbergia. By the way these are flowering about a month earlier this year than usual.
St. sicula “Dodona gold” have been in flower for about a month, St. lutea and St. sicula graeca for 2 weeks. St. greuteriana have buds. All in the open garden. Do you have same experience?
These pictures are a few days old.
1. Sterbergia lutea
2. Sternbergia sicula “Dodona Gold” – almost done.
3. Oxalis lobata
4. Colchicum Speciosum Album and Crocus nudiflorus
5. Schizostylis coccinea and Crinum powellii
Poul
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Hi Poul, welcome :)
What a beautiful flowers you have. The yellow of the Sternbergias as fabulous (mine did not flowered yet :-[).
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Hi Poul - welcome to the forum from me too ! :D
Nice start - good to see you get your Sternbergias to flower outside so far North !
Thanks for showing and have fun on the Forum !
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Welcome Poul!
Congratulations for having so many flowers on your Sternbergia's.
I havn't more than 3 each year :-[ But more than 3 Crocus flowers ;D
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Hi Poul,
That's a great first posting to the forum. Great plants. Your sternbergias are particularly good.
Welcome. Paddy
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Lovely pictures Poul, welcome to the Forum.
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Hello, Poul, welcome to the Forum... what fine plants you have there!
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Hello Poul,
welcome! The white C. speciosum and the blue C. nudiflorus make a strong contrast in a flower bed.
Isn't it a bit pity the crocus had already fallen over?
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Armin, you have mentioned what I consider to be the only fault of autumn flowering crocus.... they are not good at standing up! Some colchicums tend to flop a lot too.... it is very difficult to find a place to grow these delightful flowers where they can be seen well but can have some protection or support from the wind and rain.... has anyone got any clever ideas to help this problem?
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Maggi,
one day Thomas will have bred & selected those crocus and colchicums who can withstand rain and storm ;) ;D ;D
That would be super 8)
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Armin, i think you are right.... if anyone can then Thomas can :D He has a great skill with these flowers.
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Escholtzia stauntonii is always the last woody species to bloom in the garden here.
Actinidia fruits still trying to ripen.
Epilobium canum garrettii still blooming (3rd month?)
And first hint of autumn colour in the Euonymus.
First frost last night!!!!
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TC,
I think you should pick the chanterelles. There is no poisonus fungus that is even remotely similar and they are for some reaon never attacked by larvae. (But by deer)
The dangerous ones are the white agarics. We had a death this year in Sweden (A foreign woman who did not have the Swedish mushroom collecting background). They are mistaken for Champignons. However, the Champignons never have white gills even very young ones have pink gills - later they become black. The agarics always have white gills.
Göte
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I would always advise caution with fungi: this from a fungi book:
"Caution is required when identifying chanterelles for eating as there are look-alikes that either taste poor or can make you very ill:
The False chanterelle (Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca) has finer, more orange gills and a darker cap.
The Jack O'Lantern mushroom (Omphalotus olearius) and its sister species (Omphalotus olivascens) are very similar in appearance to chanterelles and will make you very sick, although they are not lethal. Unlike chanterelles they have true gills (not forked or divided) that are thinner, have distinct crowns, and generally do not reach up to the edge. Additionally, the Jack-O-Lantern mushroom is bioluminescent and it tends to grow in clumps on trees – NOT under trees, like the chanterelle.
Be Aware of the deadly Cortinarius speciosissimus
There are about 10,000 species of mushroom found in Britain and Cortinarius speciosissimus, which has a reddish brown cap and rust-coloured gills, is known to be one of the most deadly. Found mostly in Scotland, where it grows in conifer woods, it causes damage to the liver, kidneys and spinal cord. As other members of the Cortinarius family are also dangerous, none is recommended for human consumption. This species grows in similar locations and can look similar to edible chanterelles."
There has been a case in recent weeks of four people admitted to hospital in Northern Scotland ,after eating wild mushrooms... two are now on kidney dialysis and may require transplants. :o
Ian has just told me that one woman of these four poisoned has died. :(
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a cuple of autumn species
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When the Horse Whisperer mushroom story first broke I looked up the web to find the species they had eaten. It was a horrible brown thing that I would never have considered picking. Carol and I are long time fungi foragers but we have a very limited list of types that we collect and eat. These all taste good and are, obviously, non toxic.
I hope that for once Ian has got something wrong in saying that one of the females has died from the poisoning.
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A woman on the Isle of Wight died on the 17th after eating wild fungi and it may be this woman Ian is referring to, rather than one of the 4 in Scotland who became ill..... nasty way to go for the poor woman.
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When the Horse Whisperer mushroom story first broke I looked up the web to find the species they had eaten. It was a horrible brown thing that I would never have considered picking.
To explain this reference to the Horse Whisperer: this quote from a newspaper
"........... the poisonous species of mushroom: Cortinarius speciosissimus, to which novelist Nicholas Evans, his wife and in-laws fell victim while on holiday near Forres last week.
Evans, author of the bestselling novel The Horse Whisperer, and his wife, Charlotte, were on holiday on the Moray estate of her brother, Sir Alastair Gordon-Cumming, and they, plus Sir Alastair’s wife Louise, had to be hospitalised after cooking and eating mushrooms picked during a woodland walk. They were given dialysis at Aberdeen Royal Infirmary"
The fungus reportedly causing the poisoning is not too hard to mistake for a chanterelle, for the inwise and unwary!
http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/gallery/DisplayBlock~bid~5455.asp for pix
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Yes, it´s always very tragic when such a pleasant thing as picking mushrooms in the forest ends in people getting poisioned.
I think that mushrooms lika plants require practising to learn. But, I must say that I think that mistaking Cortinarius for Cantharellus should not be any risk at all if you consult even a basic field book about mushrooms. They are really very different in apperance. On the other hand I would always avoid brown mushrooms with brown gills like the Tricholomas and Rozites caperata (don´t know The English names).
The false chanterelle is also very different from the genuine one. The safest thing is to stick to the Boletus kind of mushrooms.
An other thing is that even a edible mushroom can make you sick if it has started to decay when it´s picked.
Lars
Stockholm / Sweden
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Two autumnflowering bulbs in the autumn sun.
1. Crocus hadriaticus 'Crystal'
2. Colchicum sanguicolle
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Lilium gloriosoides var.
Open today in yet more sunshine :) :) :)
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Exquisite Lilium Dave !
Good to see these Autumn bulbs Kenneth - very nice colours.
Here's some flowers in my garden at the moment
1) Delphinium tatsianense - sown early this year
2) Gentiana 'Blue silk'
3) Same contrasting with a yellow Gazania
4) general view showing all three
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Luc
I was getting worried that you only admired flowers and did not grow them anymore. ;)
Your rock garden is looking very good. How big is it? What further treasures might we expect?
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Hi Art !
My garden isn't all that big - I guess all the parts added up, some 250 m2.
I've been a bit lazy taking pix lately - also because there's fewer things flowering in Summer.
I posted some pix of my garden in last years May thread - page 6
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=474.75
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The seedpod I really like: Asclepias syriaca
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a cuple of autumn species
Rafa,
I'd not heard of an autumn flowering muscari before.
What can you tell us about it?
cheers
fermi
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Thank you all for the warm welcome!
I have been very lucky with my Sternbergia, the last 3 years they had been very floriferious. Specially St. Lutea has flowered well, but also Greuteriana and sicula. Unfortunately I don't know what clone my Lutea is, maybee it is "Autumn Gold". I have to tell you the story of this particular bulb: About 16 years ago I was on a summer holyday in Italy. I visited a garden "Villa Carlotta" near the lake Como. In the rock garden I found a dormant bulb on the surface. I did not know what it was, but it looked like a Narcissus. I took it home and planted it in my rock garten and 2 years later it flowered.
Then I found out it was a Sternbergia. Every year since it has flowered and increased to about 25 bulbs different places in my garden. Now I have St. greuteriana, St. sicula, St. clusiana and seedlings of St. colchiciflora. I have trouble with the last one. When I buy a bulb it flower the first year and I get seeds. But next year it has disappeared. I have tried different places but with the same result. Now I hope there will be more success with my seedlings.
Here is some new pictures:
1. As you can see, Thomas I have more than 3 crocus nudiflorus ;)
But they have just started flowering. I love crocus too and have several species. By the way can you give me an advice on Cr. mathewi? I planted a single corm and in 4 years I had 8 flowering corms. I was very pleased, but last year not a single one flowered and the leaves was very small too. They are in the same place in my rock garden as before, only replanted once. What went wrong?
2. Armin, it is a great contrast between nudiflorus and Col. speciosum Album. And I was lucky they flowered at the same time ;D
3. Sterbergia sicula "dodona gold". This group look better than the one last week.
4. Sterbergia greuteriana
5. Seed pods of Crocosmia Lucifer
6. Crocus banaticus
7. Colchicum "water lilly"
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Hi Poul !
Another great series of pictures.
Regarding your non flowering C. mathewii I don't want to speak for Thomas, but we all seemed to have much less flowers because of the particularly hot weather during Spring 2007, which considerably shortened the growing season of the bulbs resulting in smaller bulbs and less flowers... :'(
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Armin, you have mentioned what I consider to be the only fault of autumn flowering crocus.... they are not good at standing up! Some colchicums tend to flop a lot too.... it is very difficult to find a place to grow these delightful flowers where they can be seen well but can have some protection or support from the wind and rain.... has anyone got any clever ideas to help this problem?
I plant the tender species under scrubs and trees where they get some protection from heavy rain.
This doesn't help in every case but often it saves the beauties from demolition.
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By the way can you give me an advice on Cr. mathewi? I planted a single corm and in 4 years I had 8 flowering corms. I was very pleased, but last year not a single one flowered and the leaves was very small too. They are in the same place in my rock garden as before, only replanted once. What went wrong?
Poul, it is as Luc mentions: we all had a bad flowering season last year. Did you have a look at the corms? Perhaps they are rotten or eaten by pests? I find C. mathewii a very floriferous plant, but in the open garden I often lost some corms. For this reason I've planted them under scrubs last year to protect them from summer moisture. Any signs of the plants this year?
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Thomas, there is no sign of Cr. mathewi yet, so I suppose no flowers this year too. I have not looked at the corms for any rot, but they grow in a elevated place with very good drainage. In this place I have never had problems with rotting. But I will take your advice and replant them in a place protected from summer rain. Luckily I have some seedlings in spare from previous years under cold glass, and I hope they will flower in a couple of years.
Poul
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Poul, I have 3 baskets with Crocus mathewii from different sources, only one has sent flowers so far.
The other two don't show any sign of life, so there's still hope, that yours are still alive!!
Wait 2 or 3 weeks more, if they don't grow, have a look under the surface if there are still corms!
By the way: You have a wonderful clump of Crocus nudiflorus!!! :o Definitely more than 3 flowers ;)
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Two autumnflowering bulbs in the autumn sun.
1. Crocus hadriaticus 'Crystal'
2. Colchicum sanguicolle
Kenneth,
How gorgeous this Colchicum is ! Where can I find such a beauty ? Thank you
Dominique
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a cuple of autumn species
Thank you Rafa. I like particularly Muscari parviflorum
Dominique
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I couldn't resist a picture of this Eucomis pole evansii this weekend - flowering for the first time after 3 years - and proof that neglect can pay off! Can't remember when it was last fed or repotted)
Sue
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Dominique. I got my bulbs from the botanical garden of Gothenburg. A small part of their surplus. I see that Rare Plants have it for sale in their autumn catalogue: www.rareplants.co.uk. (Sorry to say it is quite expensive!)
Now I see that it is not in the web catalogue only in the paper one. Maybe it is sold out?
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Poul,
Another excellent series of photographs, great plants.
Sue, you give me hope. I have a Eucomis pole-evansii in a pot for the last three years, excellent foliage growth but no flower yet. Maybe next year!
Paddy
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lapageria rosea with a pink and white growing together
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Tony
Is this growing in your garden? I ask as I thought it was quite tender and you live in the frozen north ;D
Very nice plant(s)
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Here is a ginger (Hedichium sp.) flowering on the patio. I overwinter this in the greenhouse.
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Like the ginger - is it scented at all?
Sue
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Haven't noticed, but in Jamaica I noticed flowering gingers were patrolled by Doctor Birds (Streamer-tailed humming birds Trochilus polytmus). Stuck in the house at the moment due to minor surgery.
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Several years ago I went to Rosemoor Gardens in Devon where they had wonderful gingers flowering with some really deep perfume, but Devon is a long way from Northumberland and I've never tried - also the plants were huge and I just wasn't certain that they'd do anything in a pot.
Hope you recovered soon and are up and about.
Sue
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Arthur
they are growing in two large plastic pots on either side of the front door(sound naff but is not).One has a red one and the other both a red and white one. They have been there several years and are the offspring several generations removed from my original plants.I have not succeeded with them in the open garden. Last year they fruited and I have produced masses of seedlings so will be trying some.
It is not the frozen North here just wet and dull. We have not had a really cold winter for years.
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It is worth a try in the open garden Art, my Lapageria rosea is in a sheltered spot and flowers well. Of course if we have a really hard winter... 8)
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Anthony, hope you are soon fully recovered. That Hedichium rather suggests that Dunblane does have SOME warm weather then ?? ::) They look so exotic!
Tony, do you mean the Lapagerias overwinter outside in their pots, or do you give them some cover ?I suppose close to the house they gain some shelter and warmth.
Lovely to see these "glam" plants doing so well ..... wonder if I could get brave and try these in Aberdeen?? :-\
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Anthony
I hope you are recovering well.
Maggi yes outside with no protection - that is probably the kiss of death!
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Anthony,
Hope you're on the mend. Best wishes from here in Aus.
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Thanks for the good wishes. Ibuprofen is a wonderful thing. :) The gingers are in a big pot but need to be split as the pot is gradually changing shape!
Here is Narcissus serotinus, also taken at the weekend.
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Anthony,
a very fine wee gem ;)
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Finally we start to feel Autumn in the air down here...
Scilla hanburyi and Biarum angustatum are amongst the early bloomers.
Sorry for quality of the photos, my camera is out of focus...new one soon.
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Oren that is a very fine biarum,a lovely colour.Iwould be interested to know its origin.
Here is one of mine from Spain flowering today which is not very exciting and has an awful smell. Also a Bessera elegans a very nice late flowering bulb for the alpine house. The inside of the flower is usually hidden but has very interesting colours.
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Tony,
My B. angustatum are grown from seeds from colonies found very close to the sea in north Israel
it has a very strong velvet color.
Your Biarum is fantastic, it is very similar to the tenuifolium that is widespread in the Mediterranean Islands.
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Tony ,
wow :o :o :o
very nice Bessera - are they difficould ?
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Hans they are as easy as possible.Put them in a pot in the spring ,water and wait for then to flower! They also multiply with lots of offsets.
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Tony ,
thank you for your informations ;)
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Tony ,
wow :o :o :o
very nice Bessera - are they difficould ?
Hans, I showed Bessera in Weekly Lisse Flowershow on Sept. 16 (reply 197) and some weeks before too.
On Sept. 17, I showed a (bad) picture of a bed (Reply 215-217) where they are cultivated near my place.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.210 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.210)
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Luit ,
thank you - sorry I have not seen ( again ) your pic ... :'( :'( :'(
You are lucky people in Netherland ....you go cycling and see Bessera .... :o
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Luit ,
You are lucky people in Netherland ....you go cycling and see Bessera .... :o
I cycled yesterday again and saw the man had cut off almost all the flowers.
He told me that he hoped for better growing bulbs that way.
I was just able to pick some nice flowers he missed when cutting.
Rough people, those bulbgrowers ;D ;D :(
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Here are some flowers from my garden this week:
1) Armeria trojana
2) Cyclamen intaminatum
3) Draba polytricha
4) Echinacea purpurea 'After Midnight'
5) Oxalis perdicaria (flowers not open because they were just in the shade)
6) Primula auricula 'Dusky Yellow'
7) Scilla lingulata
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And some plants that have beautiful leaves this time of the year:
1) Heuchera 'Caramel'
2) Heuchera 'Citronelle'
3) Heuchera 'Obsidian'
4) Heuchera 'Tiramisu'
And a girl with a lot of family in my garden:
5)Araneus diadematus
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Wim, that is a lovely Scilla (Scilla lingulata). The rosette of leaves makes it very pretty. Do you ever have spare seed?
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It's my first year I have this Scilla. So I'll see if it sets seed. If it does I'll let you know and send you some.
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Has Oxalis lobata had a name change?
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Here area few Fall/Autumn pictures from Newfoundland. The first Colchicum to flower is always C. agrippinum, and the first crocus, Crocus nudiflorum, is just appearing. For me one of the most exciting things in the garden is seeing the tips of the bulb flowers appearing after a period of dormancy - in some cases re-assurance that they have survived! Clematis integrifolia is in seed, and Erigeron karvinskianum has filled the beds with its cloud of flowers. I know this is considered a weed in the UK, but it rarely overwinters here and is a very useful gap filler as it flowers all summer. I think we grow Sedum spectabile as much for its visitors as for its flowers!
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Wim,
The leaves on that Scilla are rather nice, as Anthony mentioned. Quite unusual for the smaller Scilla, at least those that I've seen anyway.
Lesley,
Oxalis lobata and Oxalis perdicaria are very, very similar apparently. Some say that one is a horticultural variant of the other (I can't remember which was around so am not stating it! ;)). The two that I have under the respective names are very marginally different, mainly size of leaves and flowers etc, but I wouldn't have thought there was enough for species differentiation, at least not with the two I have anyway!? :o
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Lesley,
I didn't realise those two oxalis where so similar. I bought it as O. perdicaria but it can just as well be O. lobata.
Paul,
I didn't know there existed a Scilla like that untill I saw it at the alpine nursery of Kathy Portier in Bruges where I bought. I thought it was very nice also :)
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Wim, here is a picture, which shows the Scilla in 1 l. pot.
Scilla lingulata
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WOW,
That's very impressive
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It's my first year I have this Scilla. So I'll see if it sets seed. If it does I'll let you know and send you some.
Thanks Wim. I love well behaved plants.
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Lovely pot of the Scilla lingulata, Luit, I never saw such a potfull!
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Wim, I forgot to mention that you should keep it under glass in winter.
But it is then really hardy!
Like most Scilla it is a very easy bulb. Easy to propagate by young bulbs.
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A tremendous potful Luit.
Howard, it just goes to show you how cosmopolitan the painted lady (I note that it has now been sunk into the genus Vanessa) is. I think South America is the only (excepting antarctica) continent in which it is not found. We occasionally get the American painted lady (V. virginiensis) blown over (I found this species breeding in Jamaica) but I think the Canary Islands and Madeira have the closest colonies.
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Luit,
Stunning pot of the Scilla. Still can't get over those leaves.... so unlike the small Scillas. Very nice. 8)
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Luit,
I concur my previous forumist - absolut impressive pot of scillas :o :o :o
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It's mighty cold, but the Gaillardias are still going strong.
Salvia azurea has just started blooming. This is native to the central USA, about 1.5m, with stunning flowers. It would be much happier somewhere with a warmer and longer autumn.
The common Clematis ternifolia started a few weeks ago, but will also get zapped soon if it gets any colder.
One of the lesser-known Ampelopsis, A. humilifolia, does much better here than the rampant and better-known A. brevipendunculata. It's berries are just starting to colour.
The remainder of the Magnolia tripetala pods were collected today.
And here are the beautiful acorns in furry cups of Quecus dentata (the Japanese Emperor Oak).
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A few in bloom today before the wind and rain obliterates them.
Fuchsia aff loxensis.
Petrocosma forrestii.
Salvia patens Guanajuato.
Timbouchina urvilleana.
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Well, the sun is shining. 8) I managed out to the bulbhouse and here is Allium callimischon haemostictum.
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Luit,
You certainly have SCILL with you Scillas ;)
Wim, I forgot to mention that you should keep it under glass in winter.
But it is then really hardy!
Like most Scilla it is a very easy bulb. Easy to propagate by young bulbs.
I have not the same skill. :( I had only lingulata for one season. They flowered well in the autumn, but could not stand the winter in Denmark, (- 15) though I kept them fairy dry under cold glass.
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The weather is bad with only a little sunshine, but here is a few highlights
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After some very busy weeks I am glad to have the time to join the forum again as usually before.
Let me express my sincere thanks to all the friends who made so many fine contributions in
the meantime.
The flowers in the garden get fewer,but not less beautiful.
When we visited Erfurt we noted a new kind of trough-planting.
Begonia grandis starts to become a bit invasive, but after the first frost this problem will be solved.
Magnolia tripetala also grows in Germany well with us and is one of our favourite trees for its flowers,leaves,fruit and the scent of the bark.
Aster coloradoensis is very valuable for the flowers who last until frost.
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Good to have you around again, Rudi 8)
I'm especially interested in the most innovative trough planting... this is a subject very dear to many of us in the SRGC you know ;) ;D
Magnolia tripetala also grows in Germany well with us and is one of our favourite trees for its flowers,leaves,fruit and the scent of the bark
Please tell me about this scent of the bark... I do not know about this ?
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OK Joakim, you stick to your way, I'll stick to mine. Potaytoes - potaaatoes. Let's call the whole thing off. Cliff, Anthony's answer was what I would have expected from you :) but I have NO intention of getting into a discussion about the relative qualities of different kinds of knitwear. (You didn't think I'd get that one, did you? :-\
Incidentally, I have a very interesting Ranunculus hybrid to show you soon. Watch the October in the Southern Hemisphere page.
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Incidentally, I have a very interesting Ranunculus hybrid to show you soon. Watch the October in the Southern Hemisphere page.
Can't wait, Lesley ... can't wait.
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Here is a flower,seed collected in China by a german friend. Very late flowering but is managing to grow outside in a raised bed
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Here is a flower,seed collected in China by a german friend. Very late flowering but is managing to grow outside in a raised bed
Nice one Tony. We find most autumn-blooming gentians are flower-floppers. That one is so nice and rigid it appears it could weather wind and rain - both common here in the autumn.
johnw
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Kristl - I have never seen a Ginkgo fruit here in Nova Scotia - not even old ones with a male nearby. Is this non-fruiting a common occurrence in the cooler parts of the UK?
johnw
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Here is a flower,seed collected in China by a german friend. Very late flowering but is managing to grow outside in a raised bed
Very nice Tony. Mine are still small. I do have Gentiana acaulis flowering now!
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Here is a flower,seed collected in China by a german friend. Very late flowering but is managing to grow outside in a raised bed
If you can find a picture of mine on the OLD Forum, of Gentiana depressa, you may be Gentiana IMpressa! :D
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Maggi,you asked about the scent of Magnolia tripetala: scratching or injuring the bark and pruning results in a pleasant spicy scent, unlike the scent of the flowers which is not too pleasant to my nose.
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Rudi, thank you for your help with the scent of the magnolia. 8)
Friends: I intend to remove the posts about names and their pronounciation.... good bad and indifferent, to a new thread , to be called ( and this IS definitive) Latin names and how we say them. ::)
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Good idea Maggi !! :D
At least it will save us from looking for it in a couple of months time... ;D
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Yes, I agree with Luc, a good idea. It is bound to involve some hilarity somewhere/sometime.