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Bulbs => Crocus => Topic started by: Thomas Huber on September 01, 2008, 02:58:05 PM
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A wonderful new entry to my collection, so far only known from Ian's bulb log:
Crocus scharojanii var flavus, a hybrid with vallicola.
The first 3 photos show its natural look, but for the last photo
I have used my itchy fingers to open the petals somewhat wider.
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Thomas
I like this variety better than scharojanii. A wonderful colour
Was it a gift, or did you buy the corm?
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Very special Thomas.. and very beautiful indeed ! :o
Nice colour and the pointed petals make it seem ever so fragile !
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Was it a gift, or did you buy the corm?
Arthur, such plants are unpayable and I don't know any source where it is sold :-[
It was a good swap with a friend!
Yes Luc, its hard to describe its beauty with words - a picture says more than 1000 words :o
Watch this photo, made earlier today, and marvel, what a little bit of sunshine can change:
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Was it a gift, or did you buy the corm?
Arthur, such plants are unpayable and I don't know any source where it is sold :-[
It was a good swap with a friend!
I thought that was the case. I have good friends, but none of them have this beautiful Crocus
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The right bulb in the right hands.
No comment!
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D...... lightful, .......elicious, ....electable.
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And d...lovely David. I mean lovely, David. ;D
A very tasty crocus Thomas and it will feel absolutely at home and happy with you. :)
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Have been too busy lately but I meant to say that so many of your crocus seeds are coming through, many from last year's July sowing and some stragglers from 05. All that come through last year are flourishing. I see a small lawn in my mind's eye. :)
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somptuous flower Thomas. Thanks
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Thomas,
Interesting crocus and, indeed, a valuable addition to your collection. I hope it is from Turkey.
No words, nice crocus with pleasant elongated shape of flower! There are many more beautiful species among widely avalable crocus types, but undoubltably rare ones are always very valuable for a serious collection.
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Thanks Dom and Zhirair!
I don't know where it came from, but I guess it's from Caucasus!
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Thomas,
an excellent good start into autuum crocus flowering season.
Impressive like fireworks of Oktoberfest ;D
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Thomas,
Fascinating form with those long tips. So unusual!!
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a good start in the new crocus-season,
Crocus autranii, a four years old seedling
Crocus kotschyanus ssp.cappadocius
Crocus kotschyanus ssp.hakkariensis in two forms
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Wunderschön Dirk !!! :o
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Beautiful Dirk, it looks as if you have had some good growing weather.
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Dirk are you pots in a covered area?
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Dirk,
Beautiful! particularly the first and last ones.
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:o :o
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I'll second that Thomas :)
Where do you obtain these rare beauties Dirk? I note that C autranii is raised from seed, are the others also?
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Dirk,
Very special - super !
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Many thanks for the compliments.
Mark, all pots standing outside without protection
Tony, cappadocius corms come from Cambridge Bulbs
hakkariensis grown by me from corms and seeds
today with many sunshine, open flowers from
Cr.autranii
Cr.kotschyanus ssp.cappadocius
Cr.kotschyanus ssp.hakkariensis
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Super 8) Dirk!
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Dirk,
Oh that veining in the second one (ssp cappadocius). Glorious!!!!!!! Love the form of the autranii as well. Great to see these species we aren't likely to ever see anywhere else. Thanks so much for sharing your pictures. 8)
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Dirk,
You have marvellous pieces in your collection :o
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Crocus pulchellus zephyr
Crocus serotinus clusii
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Two real beauties Michael !!!
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Michael, I second Luc: beautiful flowers, but I have to criticize, that the names are wrong!
First one is speciosus Albus and the
second is speciosus, possibly a hybrid with pulchellus if the white anthers I see are correct!
Sorry to be such a wisenheimer - I just want to help :-\
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Last days sunshine brought some new flowers above soil level:
- mixed bed
- C. gilanicus, a pure white form
- C. karduchorum - the true form, not kotschyanus var leucopharynx from trade
- C. mathewii, with a soft blue throat
- again - the dark blue throated forms are still sleeping
- C. serotinus ssp salzmannii, received as nevadensis from a botanical garden in Germany - hope the other corms will be true! :-\
- C. vallicola, somewhat dirty from a rainshower
- again from the inside
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And still some more:
- C. kotschyanus ssp cappadocius, the ssp without hairs in the throat - not half as beautiful as Dirk's form but also true
- C. kotschyanus ssp hakkariensis, to be distinguished from ssp kotschyanus by the corm lying on its side in the soil
future will clarify, if this feature alone justifies subspecies status!
- C. speciosus ssp speciosus from Azerbaijan, really different from the trade forms!
- C. speciosus ssp speciosus from Turkey
- again, this form has very soft blue outer petals
and last but not least my favourite early
- Crocus tournefortii
- first day of flowering it looks nearly white, becomes bluish the second day
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What a stunning series Thomas !!! ;D
So hard to choose from and so many unknown ones (to me at least).
C. karduchrum leaves me speachless (which doesn't happen often ;D) -
such a delicate looking species - wonderful !
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Thomas, you show us not only a little crocusworld, it`s an universe. fantastico!!!
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AMAZING Thomas, last week Wednesday no sign of buds and now so many flowers. ???
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Thomas - a beautiful selection of crocus. The forms of C. speciosus are much more attractive than the trade forms. And all so early! Here nothing is showing above ground.
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Gerry I have many noses above ground.
Going unnoticed until today is the gorgeous nudiflorus 'Orla'. I dont remember when or where I got it. I didnt get it this year and from my photos database it didnt flower last year. The height is 17cm 6.5 inches so I have now moved the pot in to the greenhouse. Fingers crossed an expert doesnt come forward and say it isnt 'Orla'
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If it is C nudiflorus (and it certainly looks like it) then it is Orla :)
Thomas - fantastic! Looks like you got the sunny day you wanted for pics :) :) :)
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Lovely pictures of some lovely Crocuses folks.
I was getting quite worried about my Autumn flowering Crocuses which I keep outside taking all that the weather can throw at them. Boy have they had some weather this year. Here are my first two to flower, both from Thomas- C. pulchellus 'Inspiration' and C. speciosus 'Antibir'
By the way I'd better explain my Crocus labelling system which takes into account my advancing years and failing memory. It also means I don't keep having to rush upstairs and check my database on the computer.
Black pot label-name, source and date, number of corms.
Green label-indicates to me that the pot contains an Autumn flowering species.
Yellow label-a species that needs a dry or dryish Summer.
Well it works for me!
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Mark, your 'Orla' are from Aberdeen!
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[Michael, I second Luc: beautiful flowers, but I have to criticize, that the names are wrong!]
Thanks Thomas, I would be delighted with any correction of identification,as I have only recently caught the crocus bug and am not familiar with the species and hybs. These were purchased from a well known supplier last year and it would appear that everything that he sent me were incorrectly named. I usually put a ? after any bulbs pics that I post but forgot this time.
Cheers Michael.
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C. speciosus antibir is gorgeous David and congrats with your labelling system - I might copy it...
No sign of any autumn Crocus in the garden yet here ... here's hoping...
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What a beautiful picture of Crocus spec. Artabir, David. 8)
But I'm afraid you'll have to rush upstairs and check the database on the computer
for the right name this time.
I love your system with the labels. Always learning something smart on this Forum! :D
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What a beautiful picture of Crocus spec. Artabir, David. 8)
But I'm afraid you'll have to rush upstairs and check the database on the computer
for the right name this time.
I love your system with the labels. Always learning something smart on this Forum! :D
Luit, thank you. My wife sometimes says I don't know my 'R's' from my elbow! :o This time I can't read my 'R's' from my 'N's' ;D
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Maggi you must have a good crystal ball. How long have I had them?
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Maggi you must have a good crystal ball. How long have I had them?
Well, given the fact so many think I'm a witch...... ;) ( I blame the pointed black hat and eccentric mode of transport... but brooms are always handy, sre they not??)
....you've had them just over a year, Mark :)
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Mark,
your white form of crocus nudiflorus is just stunning!
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AMAZING Thomas, last week Wednesday no sign of buds and now so many flowers. ???
Luit, the rainy and cold weather must have set them into growth, but there are still thousands under ground!
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What a beautiful picture of Crocus spec. Artabir, David. 8)
But I'm afraid you'll have to rush upstairs and check the database on the computer
for the right name this time.
Luit, thank you. My wife sometimes says I don't know my 'R's' from my elbow! :o This time I can't read my 'R's' from my 'N's' ;D
It must not have been your fault, David. Perhaps it was my terrible handwriting on the paperbag :-\
You were not the first! Since a few weeks I send the correct names via e-mail to my swap partners.
Did you put your nose on speciosus Artabir? It has a wonderful scent!!!
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Dirk and Thomas and all
thank you for so beautiful pics. Here Colchicum are early this year but not crocuses. No flower to day. ???
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some crocus from these days
Cr.vallicola in two forms
Cr.speciosus ssp.speciosus
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They are all nice Dirk but I particularly like the second C. vallicola form.
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I'll second David on this one Dirk - it's a gem !
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Super images from everybody. 8)
It is a real pleasure to see them.
I still have to wait until some of mine will open their buds. :P
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Dirk, I`m baff. C. vallicola with stripes, never heard, never seen before.
Here is an ordinary C. banaticus. I can`t take a photo with the right color. Of course he isn`t blue, it should be a deep violet.
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A mirror helped to achieve the right color of this bicolored Crocus banaticus.
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Hagen
Beautiful crocus, expertly photographed.
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Lovely Hagen, well done.
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Verrrry schön Hagen !
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Both are better photographed than my camera can do
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Hagen, cute C. banaticus. 8)
To my real surprise my 1st. autuum crocus opened today at 14°C and full sunshine.
C. hadriaticus hadriaticus
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my only two in flower at the moment
crocus vallicola turkey zigana
crocus speciosus turkey bolu
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Tony,
a nice flower shape of C. vallicola with the curled pedals tips.
And your form of C. speciosus has a strong veining! Beautiful!
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My cancellatus ssp cancellatus opened its bud today
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Art - very beautiful
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I second Gerry on this one Art ! Very nice indeed !
Nothing above ground here yet... but that's outside .. ???
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Great photos everybody - seems like autumn has started all over Europe now!
Some more from my own garden, taken during the short sunshine period today:
- cancellatus ssp mazziaricus
- hadriaticus var chrysobelonicus, although an unvalid name I still use it for this beauty, received from Anne Wright :-*
- " from the outside
- hadriaticus ssp hadriaticus without yellow throat - not ssp parnassicus which is told to be the one without yellow throat!
- " again from the outside
- karduchorum - a form with smaller petals that the one shown last week
- mathewii, the white form beneath the soft-blue throated one
- medius, the wild form from Liguria/Italy - really different from the small flowered trade form
- nudiflorus, this form flowered soft-lilac last year - this year it's become very dark
- serotinus ssp serotinus from Southern Spain - although told to grow only in Portugal
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All of them are magnifiscent, Thomas. Impossible to choose the best one. Unfortunately I can't enlarge images. We have had autumn weather here for about 3 weeks, but not a single crocus started flowering in the open. There are some shoots, so there is some hope.
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Great pics :o - I see a new addiction coming... ;) :P
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Thomas
I agree with Oleg, 'All are magnificent'.
My pots are starting to move and I should have more to post next week.
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Great pics :o - I see a new addiction coming... ;) :P
Hans
I cannot believe that you are not already addicted :o ;) :o
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I did not want to observe this thread to much - and I know why ! ;D 8)
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All of them are magnifiscent, Thomas. Impossible to choose the best one. Unfortunately I can't enlarge images. We have had autumn weather here for about 3 weeks, but not a single crocus started flowering in the open. There are some shoots, so there is some hope.
Oleg, enlarging the pictures works well for me? Problems with your computer?
Hans, I told you, I will start the crocus fever in you soon ;D
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Thanks, Thomas. I tried it again an now am enjoying full beauty
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Thomas - beautiful crocus. The C.medius from Faiallo is very impressive. Was this grown from seed? How long did it take? I'm still awaiting flowers from seeds collected further west, near Carcare - they seem very slow.
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Hi Thomas,
The C. medius is a real beauty...aaahh...nudiflorus...oohh...serotinus :P
I get another attack of fever when I see your excellent crocus pictures ;D
In my delirium I see C. hadriaticus var chrysobelonicus has a dark stem.
Is that the main difference to C. hadriaticus ssp hadriaticus (compared to my picture posted Sept.14th)?
Can you kindly explain?
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Beauties Thomas, all of them.
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What a magnificent show Thomas !!!
Thanks for showing them !
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Very beutiful pictures, Thomas, and as always photographed with taste and professionalism.
Relating crocuses, it's quite hard to charge their beauty by photos, as many look great in pictures, but in real make the opposite impression. This year I trashed all my crocus cancellatus, hadriaticus and some crocus serotinus forms finding them not attractive, beacause when my other crocus species bloom they get lost on the background of more showy forms. Though that's my personal opinion. In spite of everything I know that crocus nudiflorus never can dissapoint me.
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Thomas - beautiful crocus. The C.medius from Faiallo is very impressive. Was this grown from seed? How long did it take? I'm still awaiting flowers from seeds collected further west, near Carcare - they seem very slow.
Not from seed, Gerry. I received them as corms labelled Crocus medius, this spring they
flowered and I had to re-label them to Crocus etruscus. Both are not to distinguish by
the leaves and corms alone. You can imagine my surprise when I found this flower now.
Had some seed this summer but can't tell you how long they need to flowering size.
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Zhirair you dumped crocus cancellatus, hadriaticus and some crocus serotinus forms? :o
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In my delirium I see C. hadriaticus var chrysobelonicus has a dark stem.
Is that the main difference to C. hadriaticus ssp hadriaticus (compared to my picture posted Sept.14th)?
Can you kindly explain?
Armin, Brian Mathew doesn't mention the difference between var. chrysobelonicus, var. saundersianus and var. hadriaticus
but I guess it's exact this dark stem. Anne Wright offers the plant under this name in her nursery.
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This year I trashed all my crocus cancellatus, hadriaticus and some crocus serotinus forms finding them not attractive, beacause when my other crocus species bloom they get lost on the background of more showy forms. Though that's my personal opinion. In spite of everything I know that crocus nudiflorus never can dissapoint me.
Zhirair, one mans trash is the other mans treasure :-[
Re nudiflorus, I will show you a photo of a small flowered nudiflorus later when it's out - it's just 10-12cm tall!!
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Armin, Brian Mathew doesn't mention the difference between var. chrysobelonicus, var. saundersianus and var. hadriaticus
but I guess it's exact this dark stem. Anne Wright offers the plant under this name in her nursery.
For those whose Latin is a good deal better than mine here are Herbert's original descriptions. As far as I can understand it, the exterior of the flower of var. chrysobelonicus is described as dark. According to Stearn's 'Botanical Latin', "rubro livido" would mean something like blackish red.
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Thanks Gerry, now we need somebody to translate this into English or German :-\
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I still have Latin at school but don't ask me to translate that. ;D
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Anyone remember Peter Cook's E L Whistey character 'I would have liked to have been a Judge-but I didn't have the Latin' ;D
Here is my Crocus goulimyi
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David
Nice colour - my goulimyi are not yet up.
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Mark,
Yes, I got rid of thoses crocuses. I dind't like crocus cancellatus at all, thogh it grew and increased well. It's in the last place in my autumn crocus chart. Crocus hadriaticus is nice, but too far from my taste. Crocus cancellatus salzmanii is among my favourite species. I just kept the most showy ones. I think it is better to have less and take a perfect care of them, than to have many and be short of time.
Thomas, crocus nudiflorus is a real gem for me. Even very samll forms are in the cercle of my interest. It is good to have some small forms as well for camparison purposes.
David, crocus goulimyi is a real beauty!!! I love it very much - all forms.
This year I didn't harvest all my crocus goulimyi forms and they showed a great vigour: grwe up to 20-25 cm tall and are unbelivably florifeous. One bulb produces masses of flowers, especially the variety 'Many White'. I took some photos and will try to post soon. A gratious crocus and planted in groups in makes dramatical effect!!!!!!!!!
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Crocus niveus.
This delicately bicolored form was raised from Jim Archibald seed:- ex D. M. Hoskins 98-2 & other collections made in Greece, Lakonia, N of Pirgos Dirou (JCA pop.ref. 348.806). In my experience, most forms of C. niveus don’t like winter wet & this one is no exception.
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Very nice Gerry ! A true Gem !! 8)
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Woow Gerry - wish I had such a beautiful niveus in my collection.
Mine are all growing outside and are still doing well - at least they did last year. Hope to see them again in the next weeks!
Two days ago the dust-dry soil was watered by me, today I have many new flowers:
- kotschyanus var leucopharynx, called C. karduchorum in trade for more than 40 years, but easy to distinguish from it by it's 3-devided style.
- a small flowered form of Crocus medius, only half the size of the Faiallo form
- nudiflorus, ex bulb-log-master, in backlight
- I agree with you, Zhirair, that many salzmannii aren't very showy, but this small beauty IS!
- same beauty in backlight
- speciosus Oxonian, the most beautiful speciosus cultivar with the dark stem
- last for today some impressions from my garden
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Again a marvelous display Thomas !!! :D
No sign of Oxonion and of salzmannii here yet.. ???
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Thomas - another set of beautiful crocus. You are fortunate to be able to grow C.niveus outside - the only one that survives outside here is a trade form, others just rot. Last year I lost most of the corms of a number of seed-raised forms including the bicolored form - only 2 corms left. When/if it increases I'll send you a couple. In the open-ground trials of Autumn crocus at Wisley in the 1990s C.niveus performed badly.
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Lovely niveus Gerry. Cracking show Thomas, I really liked the kotschyanus leucopharynx, a little beauty. I share your views on Crocus speciosus 'Oxonion', here's a picture of mine from today. This has been playing cat and mouse with me for a few days as far as fully opening is concerned. I think it knows I'm going to Spain on Sunday for a week and I did want to get a picture of it before I went.
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Thomas, it`s a pleasure to see your schottertrifts with such a lot of crocusspecies. Wirklich schön.
David, your pics showes that OXONIAN is real the best C speciosus. Fine.
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Armin, Brian Mathew doesn't mention the difference between var. chrysobelonicus, var. saundersianus and var. hadriaticus
but I guess it's exact this dark stem. Anne Wright offers the plant under this name in her nursery.
For those whose Latin is a good deal better than mine here are Herbert's original descriptions. As far as I can understand it, the exterior of the flower of var. chrysobelonicus is described as dark. According to Stearn's 'Botanical Latin', "rubro livido" would mean something like blackish red.
Thanks Gerry for support!
Same as Thomas I don't understand latin - I asked my son to kindly translate the descriptions but he failed - to many unknown vocabulary was his excuse :P :-[
Your C. niveus is beautiful 8) It is a pity that it is not hardy outside in your climate.
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Lovely niveus Gerry. Cracking show Thomas, I really liked the kotschyanus leucopharynx, a little beauty. I share your views on Crocus speciosus 'Oxonion', here's a picture of mine from today. This has been playing cat and mouse with me for a few days as far as fully opening is concerned. I think it knows I'm going to Spain on Sunday for a week and I did want to get a picture of it before I went.
David,
C.goulimyi and C. speciosus "Oxonian" are very beautiful crocus you show us. Congratulation!
My C. speciosum just show noses. Need more sunny days...
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Thomas,
simply marvellous :o 8)
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Thanks Gerry for support!
Same as Thomas I don't understand latin - I asked my son to kindly translate the descriptions but he failed - to many unknown vocabulary was his excuse :
Armin - To the best of my feeble ability, I'm working on a translation of the relevant sections. At least it keeps senile decay at bay!
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Gerry,
thank you in advance. I'll be glad to read your translation later.
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Armin - I think your son can be excused, the vocabulary of botanical Latin seems to be quite specialised. When I post my partial translation maybe he can check my command of grammar?
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Gerry, I'll give it a trial :D
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Thomas
If you show too many more pictures like those of your garden crocuses I shall either give up growing crocuses or move to Germany ;D ;D ;D Fantastich!!
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I realise that these pictures are no big deal for all you Crocus fanatics but I was so thrilled with them that I had to share.
Seed was sown in January 03, last year we had 1 flower this year it looks as if all four seedlings are going to flower. Now the big question is how long will I have to wait for them to bulk up to a 6 inch pot.
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Shelagh,
you don't have to hide your breeding success. ;)
Congratulation! This is a beautiful pot of C.banaticus.
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Well, Shelagh, I think something that beautiful deserves to be shared with as many people as possible! Lovely photos, too. 8)
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I realise that these pictures are no big deal for all you Crocus fanatics but I was so thrilled with them that I had to share.
Seed was sown in January 03, last year we had 1 flower this year it looks as if all four seedlings are going to flower. Now the big question is how long will I have to wait for them to bulk up to a 6 inch pot.
Shelagh
Beautiful banaticus - wish I could get mine to flower.
On the question of bulking up, I recently bought 2 pots of Banaticus from a well known Cyclamen Nursery. In one pot there were 12 noses and the other pot had 8 noses. As the pots were only £4 each, I do not think they were planted with more than one corm. Will post a picture of the pots.
Previously when I re-potted a similar pot from the same Nursery, there were in excess of 20 cormlets that I am growing on.
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Thanks Gerry, now we need somebody to translate this into English or German :-\
Since nobody else has come forward I will have a go myself at a free translation of the sections dealing with the two varieties of C. hadriaticus mentioned by Thomas & distinguished by W. Herbert in 1845 but which Brian Mathew does not recognize. Since I don’t understand some of Herbert’s abbreviations I have omitted his descriptions of the leaves which don't seem to differ much. My additions to the original are in italics [thus].
“var. Chrysobelonicus; ...........perianth white; throat hairless [BM says pubescent], orange; exterior [ = base of segments & perianth tube ?] often marked with blackish-red or striated/veined; filaments white, hairless; Found on the stony hill of Chrysobeloni on Lefkas/Lefkada where P. Vrioni first discovered it. Flowers October.
var. Saundersianus; ......... perianth whiteish/off-white; throat deep orange; [exterior?] apparently not striated. From the hill of Bisdun, the site of ancient Dodona, near the town called Janina by the Albanians of Epirus.* Obtained via the good offices of S.S. Saunders, the British Consul. Flowers December to January”
*Janina = Ioannina did not become part of Greece until1913
It is nearly 60 years since I was taught Latin &, to my regret, I paid no attention at the time. For vocabulary I have made use of W.T. Stearn’s wonderful book Botanical Latin but my command of grammar is rudimentary at best. Corrections welcome.
Other people can decide whether Anne Wright’s plant corresponds to Herbert’s variety ‘Chrysobelonicus’. A form recently collected from Dodona (AH 8690 ) is in cultivation. At least in photographs, this looks somewhat different to other cultivated forms.
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Gerry,
many thanks for your instructive translation. ;) :D
Never stop learning ;D
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I'm awaiting developments with interest. I was given the original corms by a friend who seemed to be quite expert, but I will accept any better offers! Mine are only just showing above ground so far. Bowles' book on Crocus and Colchicum isn't much help either, the descriptions of the two varieties seem to be much the same.
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I realise that these pictures are no big deal for all you Crocus fanatics but I was so thrilled with them that I had to share
Shelagh - a very nice photo. It's clear from your enthusiasm that you too could become a Crocus fanatic. Just don't fight it!
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Shelagh
Beautiful banaticus - wish I could get mine to flower.
On the question of bulking up, I recently bought 2 pots of Banaticus from a well known Cyclamen Nursery. In one pot there were 12 noses and the other pot had 8 noses. As the pots were only £4 each, I do not think they were planted with more than one corm. Will post a picture of the pots.
Previously when I re-potted a similar pot from the same Nursery, there were in excess of 20 cormlets that I am growing on.
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Here is the proof. Although I count the owner as a friend, the pots were selected at random. Think you would agree - a banaticus bonus :) ;) :)
P.S. Just counted second pot and there are now 10 noses. :o ;D 8)
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Here's a pic of my Crocus speciosus xantholaimos from Tony Goode (thank you Tony). Tony's note that came with it said 'may have crossed with pulchellus, or if it has white anthers is pulchellus'. Looks like xantholaimos to me Tony!
By the way I wasn't the one in our our household who booked a weeks break in Spain right in the middle of the Autumn Crocus flowering season!!
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P.S. Just counted second pot and there are now 10 noses. :o ;D 8)
In actual fact there are 13 8)
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By jove, this gets a better bargain by the minute, Arthur!
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Thomas, it`s a pleasure to see your schottertrifts with such a lot of crocusspecies. Wirklich schön.
David, your pics showes that OXONIAN is real the best C speciosus. Fine.
Hagen,
crocus speciosus 'Oxonian' is, no doubt, very beautiful (especially its dark colour), but it has a serious shortcoming - week tubes, which are easily damaged from slight winds. I have lighter native forms of this crocus, which are very tall, large-flowered and have much stronger tubes.
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I realise that these pictures are no big deal for all you Crocus fanatics but I was so thrilled with them that I had to share.
Seed was sown in January 03, last year we had 1 flower this year it looks as if all four seedlings are going to flower. Now the big question is how long will I have to wait for them to bulk up to a 6 inch pot.
Shelagh, every crocus photo is a big deal!
Well done, don't hesitate to show more!!
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Here's a pic of my Crocus speciosus xantholaimos from Tony Goode (thank you Tony). Tony's note that came with it said 'may have crossed with pulchellus, or if it has white anthers is pulchellus'. Looks like xantholaimos to me Tony!
David, did Tony really make the same comments on the same plants that you've been sent by me, too ;D
Gerry, I will try to examine one of my/Anne's flowers to find out if it is pubescent or hairless.
DONE: It has a hairy throat! So it doesn't seem to be var. chrysobelonicus :-\
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Last week I bought back copies of the Plantsman magazine from March and June 2002 that have articles from Brian Mathews. I lent them out but they never came back. So good to look at them again now that I'm hooked more than ever on Crocus. You should order them.
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Gerry, I will try to examine one of my/Anne's flowers to find out if it is pubescent or hairless.
DONE: It has a hairy throat! So it doesn't seem to be var. chrysobelonicus :-\
Thomas - Very interesting. I'll have a look at my own specimens of Anne's plants in due course - they are only just showing. BM (p60) seems to imply that all forms of C.hadriaticus have a hairy throat & I would guess that his description was based on both living plants & herbarium specimens. I would imagine that Herbert's description was based entirely on dried, herbarium material. I wonder how well throat hairs survive in such material?
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Thomas - Very interesting. I'll have a look at my own specimens of Anne's plants in due course - they are only just showing. BM (p60) seems to imply that all forms of C.hadriaticus have a hairy throat & I would guess that his description was based on both living plants & herbarium specimens. I would imagine that Herbert's description was based entirely on dried, herbarium material. I wonder how well throat hairs survive in such material?
This was exactly my thought, but I would never assume that Herbert has done careless observations!
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Herewith first flowers on the bargain pot of Crocus banaticus. Picture quality not good as summer ended as quickly as it started and I did not want to use flash.
The Crocus on the left is a first flowering of speciosus ssp. xantholaimos from Jim Archibald seed. The Sternbergia greuteriana is one I was recently given, originating from the Omalos Plateau in Crete - it is significantly smaller than the 3 other pots I have.
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Very worthwhile waiting for Art !
Love them all !!
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Last week I bought back copies of the Plantsman magazine from March and June 2002 that have articles from Brian Mathews.
Mark - where did you buy them? Locally? They are not currently listed on Abebooks.
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The Sternbergia greuteriana is one I was recently given, originating from the Omalos Plateau in Crete - it is significantly smaller than the 3 other pots I have.
Art - the S.greuteriana is small & really nice It also seems to have much narrower leaves than other plants I have seen. Am I right in thinking it came from Peter M?
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Gerry
It was Melvyn J who gave me the greuteriana this year.
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http://www.rhs.org.uk/Learning/Publications/pubs_journals_plantsman.htm (http://www.rhs.org.uk/Learning/Publications/pubs_journals_plantsman.htm)
March has 13 pages and 17 photos
I want would like C. gotoburgensis 'Ember'
June has 10 pages and 13 photos
I lust after sieberi 'Midas Touch'
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Are we coming to any decisions then, friends? Or is the deciding part of the fun? ???
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To travel hopefully is better than to arrive.
Edit - sorry Martin, during the night I remembered the correct version.
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It is better to travel than to arrive.
Not on First Great Western trains it isn't!
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A couple of Crocus pulchellus.
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Crocus ex Marcus Harvey
For a number of years I've had a form of Crocus niveus said to be raised from Marcus Harvey seed. I obtained it as full-sized corms. It multiplies readily but has never flowered & shows no inclination to do so. I wonder if any friends in NZ or Australia have any experience or useful knowledge of this plant before I dispose of it as a waste of space.
(I first posted this on the Crocus SH thread. Either no one saw it or no one has any comment)
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Gerry,
Saw your comment on the other thread, but can't volunteer much to help you. The only (public) offering of C. niveus seed from Marcus I know of was in 02/03 - an 800m collection from around Mani.
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I've bought C. niveus Lilac form from Marcus twice now and optomistic though I am by nature, I'm hard put to see much lilac in the colouring. One corm (of 6) had the merest slight suggestion of not quite white colouring.
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few pics of my crocuses
many started to bloom just at the beginning of september, but I was lasy to photograph and resize the pics; to be more clear there is a lot to do in the garden.
crocus goulimyi
crocus goulimyi 'Many White' - superb cultivar, vigorous, abundant bloomer and good increaser
crocus longiflorus
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crocus speciosus 'Oxonian' - good colour, but weaker tubes for such a large-sized flowers
crocus speciosus 'Cloudy Sky' - vigorous, large-flowered and tall (up to 25 cm), outer tepals are milky-white from outside, very thick tube, large corms.
sternbergia sicula
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Rob & Lesley -
Thanks for comments. I have no problem flowering other forms of C. niveus. The Marcus Harvey plant (from a UK supplier) was described as either lilac or white from collection made in the Peloponnese between Tripolis & Sparta. I've had it since 1998 & my patience has finally run out.
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Gerry, have you tried to plant them outside?? It will work or not - better to throw them in the rubbish!
Zhirair, I love your Crocus 'Cloudy Sky', but from your photo it looks
like a crocus with white anthers and yellow throat - also called Crocus pulchellus!
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Thomas,
I remember your last year comments about the colour of the anthers of my crocus speciosus 'Cloudy Sky'. This year I specially paid attention to this aspect and should say that it has creamy anthers. In difference, my crocus speciosus Goris has orange anthers. Anyway, 'Cloudy Sky' doesn't remind me or look like crocus pulchellus at all; and it is even difficult to think about its hybrid origin, as crocus pulchellus doesn't grow in Armenia.
I am waiting for blooming of my crocus speciosus Pambak, which is from the same locality as 'Cloudy Sky', but has uniform colour. As I remember it also should have creamy anthers.
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Zhirair,
Fantastic pics, particularly the 'Mani White' pics. Stunning flowers!
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Wonderful flowers Zhirair !
I agree with Paul - the clump of goulimyi "Many White" is a real stunner !!!
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Thomas,
I remember your last year comments about the colour of the anthers of my crocus speciosus 'Cloudy Sky'. This year I specially paid attention to this aspect and should say that it has creamy anthers. In difference, my crocus speciosus Goris has orange anthers. Anyway, 'Cloudy Sky' doesn't remind me or look like crocus pulchellus at all; and it is even difficult to think about its hybrid origin, as crocus pulchellus doesn't grow in Armenia.
Zhirair, I'm with you, 'Cloudy Sky' indeed looks like a true speciosus from flower shape and style. But there are still the two features of creamy/white anthers and yellow throat that generally set a Crocus as pulchellus. Even if C. pulchellus doesn't grow in Armenia according to literature - you know plants don't read these books and it's always possible to find new habitats of plants, not known to botanics before. Did you also observe the throat of your plant? Is it yellow?
In every case your selection is a wonderful plant!!
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crocus goulimyi 'Many White' - superb cultivar, vigorous, abundant bloomer and good increaser
Zhirair - I agree completely with your comments on 'Mani White'. Given its vigour & rate of increase.
many nurseries charge a ridiculously high price for it.
Thomas - my patience is exhausted - it's for the rubbish.
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Thomas,
I am posting photos of crocus speciosus Goris from the South of the country. I am interested in your opinion about it as well. I hope with this one everything is O.K.
Gerry,
I grwo different forms of crocus goulimyi, and, no doubt, 'Many White' is the best. Besides, it flowers for a very long period of time, as a single corm produces masses of flowers.
Relating crocus niveus, I think it's better to get rid of it, get a good clone and enjoy it. I grow different forms of this crocus, it is a good spesies, but I must admitt that there are also very unimpressive and not attractive variations among this species, which are not very vigorous, have week tubes and not long lasting. This year I am going to select the best ones and get rid of the other worse forms.
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crocus speciosus Goris
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Wonderful extra-large sized flowers - true speciosus to my eye!!
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I more into snowdrops but i had to buy these to swap for Galanthusses. I kept some for myself and they are very beautiful, but i am not going to start a Crocuscollection.
I bought these as 2 forms from Crocus speciosus Aino.
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Thomas,
I am pleased you liked crocus speciosus Goris. It's right, it is large-flowered and tall, but 'Cludy Sky' is much more vigorous, larger and considerably taller (up to 25 cm), having twise as big corms, stronger tubes and being more floriferous.
Gerard,
Thanks for sharing the pics of crocus speciosus 'Aino'. I would like to ask if your photos clearly reflect its colour. In the descriptions, it is said that 'Aino' has the same dark colour of 'Oxonian', just having stronger tubes; or shortly speaking - it is improved 'Oxonian'.
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The C. speciosus goris is very nice.
here are some of mine out today in the first sunshine of the summer.
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Wonderful pix Tony ! All really good, but that bi-coloured C. speciosus is a real eye-catcher !
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Tony
The Crocus speciosus from Hasan Dag is a real beauty. Where is Hasan Dag - not a mountain I've heard of before.
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Arthur
it is an extinct volcano to the east of Kayseri. Very acid soil.
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Zhirair, its darker then in the photo, the sun was shining very much.I make closer pics later.
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Here are my Crocus mathewii today. Another good potful bought 2 years ago at a favourite nursery.
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Art,
Thanks for the photos, this species is superb :o
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They're absolutely perfect Art !!!
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few pictures from this weekend,
Crocus banaticus
Crocus vallicola from Zigana-Pass
Crocus speciosus ssp.?? white antheren, pale yellow throat from Lerik,Talish Mts.
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and more pictures
Crocus hadriaticus ssp.parnassicus 2x
Crocus `` ssp.hadriaticus 3 forms with closed flower
`` `` open flower
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Here they are, special for Thomas some close one's.
Michael Hoog won with these a special Award of Merit Trial Grounds in 1999 at the dutch KAVB
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Dirk
Wonderful Crocus and interesting to see the variation in hadriaticus.
Gerard
Beautiful speciosus. How deep are the baskets in which you are growing the Crocus
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Art, Dirk, Gerard-
Beautiful crocus all. Congratulations!
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Hello to everybody,
it is a great pleasure to see all this nice crocus forms.
Gerard,
I receipt 3 corms of "Aino" from P.C Nijssen this week. I'm not sure they will flower still this year. But I'll be anxious if it is the improved "Oxonian".
Today we had the whole day sunshine forcing blossom of C.pulchellus Zephyr and C. speciosus, different forms.
Especial I like my speciosus seedling (likely from "Conquerer") which got a twin this year flowering freely in my lawn. Both show a nice veining.
Special thanks here to Thomas Huber who donated me some C. speciosus corms from his excess stock. ;)
Still many noses looking up. More to come soon, I hope.
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Great pictures everyone. Beautiful!! That twin of yours Armin is glorious, just love that bicolour effect.
Dirk,
Those pics are wonderful, particularly those 3 closed ssp hadriatus which show so much difference. Very nice!
Art,
The C. mathewii are just so striking aren't they? Good dark centre to the clone you have too!! Great stuff!! 8)
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Arthur the baskets are about 20 cm deep.
Armin, GP Nijssen bought them from the same grower like i did.
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Art , what a stunning pot of Cr. mathewii,
Armin , that bicoloured C. speciosus seedling of yours is delicious , perhaps a somewhat like C. speciosus 'Aitchisonii' as I grow it here.
The last flowers on C.minimus 'Bevala' and kosaninii in my garden today , so one could enjoy 12 months of Crocus flowers , if one would be fortunate enough to garden in both hemispheres,
Otto.
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Armin
All your various Crocus are excellent, but the speciosus twins are really different. Where did you obtain the seed?
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Art - I'd be interested to hear how long your C. mathewii last in flower. A number of years ago I acquired some from probably the same nursery. After having read much in praise of this stunning plant I must confess I was rather disappointed. Yes, it was very beautiful but the flowers were insubstantial & very short-lived. When I lost my plants I didn't bother to replace them.
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Gerry,
Interestingly, when Crocus mathewii flowered for me earlier this season (I'm in the southern hemisphere, so the season has just finished for spring) I remember being pleased at how thick and substantial the flower was, and how long it lasted for (I posted a pic of it too). Mine originated from Marcus Harvey in Tasmania, who sells overseas as far as I know.
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Interesting Paul. Perhaps I should try again, though £12.00 per corm is a bit much.
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Gerry
Crocus mathewii was £4 a pot. The first time I bought from my favourite nursery, the main nose was damaged, but I did find 8 cormlets when I repotted. :) 8) :)
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Art , what a stunning pot of Cr. mathewii,
Armin , that bicoloured C. speciosus seedling of yours is delicious , perhaps a somewhat like C. speciosus 'Aitchisonii' as I grow it here.
The last flowers on C.minimus 'Bevala' and kosaninii in my garden today , so one could enjoy 12 months of Crocus flowers , if one would be fortunate enough to garden in both hemispheres,
Otto.
Otto, I've never bought C. speciosus 'Aitchisonii' only C. speciosus 'Conqueror'. It means nothing...when purchased from a local garden center (likely Dutch source). The seedlings are self sown.
Does anybody can show the differences?
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Arthur the baskets are about 20 cm deep.
Armin, GP Nijssen bought them from the same grower like i did.
Gerard,
let's wait and see if mine look the same excellent like your "Aino" ;) ;D
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Glorious crocuses everyone. Mine finishing too, like Otto's, just a few final flowers on minimus 'Bavela.'
I think it takes a lot to beat C. hadriaticus.
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As September draws to a close the crocus season here is just getting going.
Crocus nudiflorus was among the first. The 6 corms planted out a couple of years ago have increased well.
Also in flower are:
Crocus tournefortii
Crocus serotinus ssp salzmannii
Crocus specioses ssp xantholaimos (with the yellow throat - ssp speciosus does not have this)
Crocus goulimyi ssp leucanthus
Crocus (possibly) boryi x tournefortii - certainly seems to ahve some attributes of both
Crocus boryi
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Tony,
Finally we see some crocus pics from you. Thank you. Your crocuses are wonderful as always; and I should admit I always wait for your pictures with great interest.
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Great show Tony !
The Autumn colours pic is fabulous !
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Tony do you have a new camera? The photos are great
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Same Camera (Nikkon Coolpix 995) but a bit of sunshine helps 8)
Thanks for the compliments!
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Here are some more of my Crocus.
I would like help in identifying the white crocus.
The veined crocus is a goulimyi - it is a deeper colour than I have captured.
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Can't help with the ID Art, but it's really pristine white isn't it ? Very nice indeed.
Like the veines in the goulimyi too !
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It is very difficult for me to grow Crocus (Fritillaria and Sternbergia) in my Alpine conditions (very wet and/or very hot/cold). Here are the first positive results after some experiments. No extraordinary plants for you but I am happy with them.
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Art,
could your crocus be Crocus goulimyi leucantha?
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Arthur, I'm with Wim: Your white crocus looks like goulimyi ssp leucanthus or at least a white form of goulimyi.
And what an wonderful striped goulimyi - I've never seen such a good form!!
Tony: Great to have you back for posting - we all missed your photos!
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Here they are, special for Thomas some close one's.
Michael Hoog won with these a special Award of Merit Trial Grounds in 1999 at the dutch KAVB
Thanks for posting these photos Gerard. From the first two photos I would say that these are
two different crocus - BUT I have the same form and I've noticed, that the colour and veining
of new flowers is much darker than 2 or 3 days old flowers. Note this effect on my photos
with the younger (smaller) ones below and also in the sideshot. I've never noticed
such a dramatic colour-loss in crocus flowers!
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Hans, I am not surprised that you are pleased with these lovely Crocus.... also very good photos of them......they have such charm!
Arthur, I too agree with Wim and Thomas.....not that anybody takes my identifications too seriously, I suspect ;) ;D I do think that it is aleast possible to make an ID for a crocus, which is more than I can say for Sternbergias.... I have given up on those altogether, as I have with all the lovely Colchicum cultivars we are being shown in the Forum..... I like them, but could most be named if all labels were lost? :-[ Why, they are nearly the same as the snowdrops!! :-X ;) Give me a crocus to enjoy, any day!
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Thomas & Wim
I thought it probably was leucantha, but was intrigued by the speckled sheath (not sure this is the correct botanical term).
Thomas The veined goulimyi was given to me this year by a good friend. I will try to capture a better photo as it is a stunner. Origin was Monemvassia
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Thomas, crocus nudiflorus is a real gem for me. Even very samll forms are in the cercle of my interest. It is good to have some small forms as well for camparison purposes.
Finally it's out: My smallest nudiflorus, nearly half the size of the other forms I have - an extra special for Zhirair!
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Thomas & Wim
I thought it probably was leucantha, but was intrigued by the speckled sheath (not sure this is the correct botanical term).
Arthur I've noticed this speckling in other goulimyi's, too!
Additional note: Just had a look at my photos from last year:
Seems like this speckling is present particularly in ssp leucanthus.
ssp goulimyi has only a soft bract colour.
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No Crocus goulimyi out of the soil yet here to check speckling or otherwise!!
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Photographed yesterday in the Botanical Garden of Wuppertal
A Question to the specialists: something special? ???
The first was labeled Crocus speciosus - the second species had no label
Gerd
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Gerd - every Crocus is special!!!! ;D Crocus speciosus and speciosus Albus!
This strong veined form is one of my favourites. I think it is speciosus Artabir.
It stands stronger than the other forms in autumn rain and wind and has a
very sweet scent.
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Arthur I've noticed this speckling in other goulimyi's, too!
Speckling is present in all my forms of C.goulimyi, heavier in subsp. leucanthus than subsp goulimyi & heaviest of all - the young sheath is virtually black - in a bicolored form that could be either. I find that the speckling tends to fade as the flower ages.
Addition - I've just looked at 'Mani White': speckling is present but very sparse.
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1 Crocus tournefortii
2 Can anyone ID this one please. grown from seed as Scharojanii . looks like pulchellus but I am not sure.
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Gerd - every Crocus is special!!!! ;D Crocus speciosus and speciosus Albus!
This strong veined form is one of my favourites. I think it is speciosus Artabir.
It stands stronger than the other forms in autumn rain and wind and has a
very sweet scent.
Thank you Thomas! You are a living Crocus-Encyclopaedia! :) :) :)
Between the specials Artabir seems especially special to me.
Gerd
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1 Crocus tournefortii
2 Can anyone ID this one please. grown from seed as Scharojanii . looks like pulchellus but I am not sure.
Michael,
your unknown crocus looks like C. kotschyanus!
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Yes, Michael, that looks like a nice dark form of C. kotschyanus .......many forms are rather paler and a bit washed out.
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Crocus specioses ssp xantholaimos (with the yellow throat - ssp speciosus does not have this)
Crocus boryi
Hallo Tony,
your C. speciosus ssp. xantholaimos with the yellow throat is suberb.
I just noticed my "Conquerer" and my seedlings have a yellow throat too. Consequentially I'm thinking "Conquerer" is a selection of ssp. xantholaimos. Can you confirm my presumption?
Your C. boryi is of my special interest too. Can you kindly post a picture to show the inner markings?
Thanks in advance.
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It is very difficult for me to grow Crocus (Fritillaria and Sternbergia) in my Alpine conditions (very wet and/or very hot/cold). Here are the first positive results after some experiments. No extraordinary plants for you but I am happy with them.
Hans,
any crocus is extraordinary ;). I remember your fantastic pictures from spring and still admire to have such a beautiful C. vernus ssp albiflorus meadow close to my garden! 8);D
And, your C. cancellatus seems to have nice dark outer markings. Do you have a picture from the side to see the full beauty?
Is it grown from seed or corms purchased, from whom?
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Yes, Michael, that looks like a nice dark form of C. kotschyanus
Thanks Maggi for your confirmation ;) :D
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Armin, Thomas has a photo that does show quite well the interior of Crocus boryi here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=771.msg19026;topicseen#msg19026
« Reply #96 on: September 19, 2007, 08:24:27 AM »
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And Andrew shows some here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=171.msg2680;topicseen#msg2680
Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 12:20:20 PM »... and in more posts down the page!
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Michael, here are great shots of C. scardicus from Tony G: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1286.msg33488;topicseen#msg33488 their colour is unlike any other 8)
See also Bulb Logs... .numbers 15/04 13/05 13/06 15/06 15/07
For anyone not familiar with the BulbLog, the Numbers refer to log/year e.g. log 15/04 is log 15 of 2004
Bulb Logs are here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/bulblog.html
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Thanks for the ID folks.
cheers
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Fabulous Maggi,
many thanks for the ultrafast links ;D
I was worth to make a quick tour ;)
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Anthony, did you manage to locate your pot of Cr. kosaninii? Was it left at the show?
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Thomas,
Thanks fpr posting a pic of your crocus nudiflorus small form. It looks cute. I suppose it is a wild form.
By the way, can anybody give me a hint whre to obtain crocus nudiflorus white form? I was very excited when I saw Mark's 'Orla'.
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Armin,
here is an other photo. I have that Crocus from Janis R.
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Yes, Michael, that looks like a nice dark form of C. kotschyanus .......many forms are rather paler and a bit washed out.
Very similar in basic flower colour to C pulchellus, easy to confuse until you look at the yellow markings in the throat. The clearly defined W or M shape (depends which way up!) is absolutely typical of C kotschyanus while C pulchellus has a yellow zone in the throat but with no clear 'pattern' to it.
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Thanks for these clear distinctions Tony, as well as the great pictures from everyone.
Can you tell me where to find a good key to Crocus?
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Ashley - the only key to crocus I have ever seen (& that only for European ones) is in Bulbs: the bulbous plants of Europe & their allies by C. Grey-Wilson & B. Mathew (1981).
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Anthony, did you manage to locate your pot of Cr. kosaninii? Was it left at the show?
No, it has definitely gone west! :'(
I have boryi in flower and will bring it into the kitchen to take its pic. Weather here is crap, unlike the tropic of Aberdeen, at the moment! >:(
I notice that PC is sell cvijicii, and I quote "The flowers come in shades of cream, primrose and yellow. The yellow form only is illustrated, though our stock contains several colour forms, however all are deliciously and uniquely scented of Freesia.". At £9.50 per corm they are not cheep.
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your C. speciosus ssp. xantholaimos with the yellow throat is suberb.
I just noticed my "Conquerer" and my seedlings have a yellow throat too. Consequentially I'm thinking "Conquerer" is a selection of ssp. xantholaimos. Can you confirm my presumption?
Armin, my Conquerer - or at least what I think it is Conquerer - doesn't show a yellow throat.
It's the largest speciosus I have in my collection, while ssp xantholaimos has only small flowers.
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Thanks for these clear distinctions Tony, as well as the great pictures from everyone.
Can you tell me where to find a good key to Crocus?
Ashley, there is also a key in Brian Mathew's "The Crocus".
Contact me via PM if you want it!
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Zhirair, I will send you a pm about "Orla"
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Hans, your pic of Crocus cancellatus is beautiful... such markings!
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Thanks for those Crocus key references Gerry and Thomas. Has the taxonomy remained stable since they were published?
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Ashley - Sorry, I forgot the key in The Crocus - the pages are missing in my photocopy. Brian Mathew published some additions & minor revisions to The Crocus in The Plantsman(March & June, 2002) but he retains the same basic system of classification. I don't know whether Pasche & Kerrndorff have made any significant changes more recently - Thomas would know.
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Anthony I was looking at the web site also. That korolkowii is a stunner
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Too rich for me Mark. :( Here is boryi, kotschyanus 'Ayres' outside in a trough and serotinus clusii.
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I notice that PC is sell cvijicii, and I quote "The flowers come in shades of cream, primrose and yellow. The yellow form only is illustrated, though our stock contains several colour forms, however all are deliciously and uniquely scented of Freesia.".
Am I missing something? None of my cvijicii have this delicious scent of Freesias. Has anyone else noted it? Perhaps I am just olefactorily challenged :P
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I'm NOT olfactorily challenged, sniffing at everything and getting much pleasure from many unexpected plants but nothing from C. cvijicii, certainly not freesias! Maybe PC has a group of freesias growing nearby.
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Crocus Banaticus.
My favourite crocus enjoying the Autumn sunshine.
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Welcome Eric - nice banaticus clump you have!!
Where do you garden?
Tony, I still havn't any cvijicii flowering in my garden, so can't tell you anything about their scent :'(
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Here is another photo of the veined Crocus goulimyi - I think this better represents the true colour. :) 8) :)
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:o :o :o
Great, Arthur!!!
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I agree with Thomas !
A true beauty Art ! :D
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Armin,
here is an other photo. I have that Crocus from Janis R.
Hans, thank you suberb.
Very desireable form you keep.
My C. cancellatus from PC Nijssen are not yet up.
I hope I can please them in my garden.
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your C. speciosus ssp. xantholaimos with the yellow throat is suberb.
I just noticed my "Conquerer" and my seedlings have a yellow throat too. Consequentially I'm thinking "Conquerer" is a selection of ssp. xantholaimos. Can you confirm my presumption?
Armin, my Conquerer - or at least what I think it is Conquerer - doesn't show a yellow throat.
It's the largest speciosus I have in my collection, while ssp xantholaimos has only small flowers.
Thomas,
aah - Do I eventual detect an area of uncertainty? ;) ;D ::)
I'll give you a ring...
Thank you anyway for your honest answer.
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Too rich for me Mark. :( Here is boryi, kotschyanus 'Ayres' outside in a trough and serotinus clusii.
Anthony,
gratulation - very beautiful C. boryi with lovely yellow throat and red elongated style. :o :o :o
Definitively one on my wish list.
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Here is another photo of the veined Crocus goulimyi - I think this better represents the true colour. :) 8) :)
Arthur, a real a stunner.
Extrordinate coloration for a C. goulimyi :o 8)
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Here is another photo of the veined Crocus goulimyi - I think this better represents the true colour. :) 8) :)
That is a real gem Art, a lovely Crocus.
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Too rich for me Mark. :( Here is boryi, kotschyanus 'Ayres' outside in a trough and serotinus clusii.
Anthony,
gratulation - very beautiful C. boryi with lovely yellow throat and red elongated style. :o :o :o
Definitively one on my wish list.
Armin, hopefully there will be a spare one next summer, so I will put your name on it. ;D
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I have a friend who says quite often "I'm not rich enough to buy ..." then goes out with the boys and comes home falling down drunk. He also smokes
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I have a friend who says quite often "I'm not rich enough to buy ..." then goes out with the boys and comes home falling down drunk. He also smokes
Yes, and a certain government a dozen or so years ago suggested to my dad that he (collective noun here) could cut down the time spent in the pub to pay for prescription, dental and eye test charges. My dad never went near a pub! He did, however, select which prescriptions he thought he could do without. Thatcher and her ilk (Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Vlad the impaler etc.) have a lot to answer for. >:(
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I have a friend who says quite often "I'm not rich enough to buy ..." then goes out with the boys and comes home falling down drunk. He also smokes
Yes, and a certain government a dozen or so years ago suggested to my dad that he (collective noun here) could cut down the time spent in the pub to pay for prescription, dental and eye test charges. My dad never went near a pub! He did, however, select which prescriptions he thought he could do without. Thatcher and her ilk (Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, Vlad the impaler etc.) have a lot to answer for. >:(
Politics and Religion!!!! ;D
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I have noticed that Prudence has managed so much better :o >:( :o
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Do we detect a certain tendency towards the left here Anthony? Not at all a criticism, I'll happily join you.
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Moi Lesley? ::)