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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Renate Brinkers on August 21, 2008, 09:47:05 PM

Title: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Renate Brinkers on August 21, 2008, 09:47:05 PM
Here some pictures of my Pancratium canariense. I got it two years ago as I spent some time at Gran Canaria and it flowers the first time for me. Normaly the flower stalk should be among 50cm long and it should flower in autumn but this year everything flowers much earlier than other years.
The first flower opened today with a scent that remembers a bit at lemon.
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 21, 2008, 10:26:10 PM
Renate,

Delighted to see the flower of this plant. I grow the foliage spectacularly well but have never flowered it. Your secret?

Paddy
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Paul T on August 22, 2008, 12:28:45 AM
Congratulations Renate.  Well Done!!  8)
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Hans J on August 22, 2008, 07:12:32 AM
Renate ,

nice to see this plant in flower - congratulation .
I will have to wait some years with my pot with seedlings .....
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Gerdk on August 22, 2008, 07:24:36 AM
Good morning Hans!

Did you wake up early (like me)?  ;D

Because of its long roots Pancratium was grown in a clay pipe (Tonrohr) at the Botanical Garden of Wuppertal.

Gerd
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Hans J on August 22, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
Good morning Gerd ,

as you know :

"only the early cat catch the birds"  ;D
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Renate Brinkers on August 22, 2008, 09:49:25 AM
Thanks but I have not the feeling that I did something special.
I kept it dry and cold in winter. In summer I placed it on the most sunny place in the greenhouse and gave it just a bit of water every 8 to 10 days.
We had a really hot and sunny summer and then, two weeks ago from one day to another the temperatures had fallen down to 20 to 25°C at day (before we had weeks with tempertures of 25° to 30°) and at night to 11° to 15° - my idea is that this is the real reason for flowering.


Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Renate Brinkers on August 22, 2008, 09:53:09 AM
Gerd,
thanks for that idea, I will try it with P.maritimum. We saw P.maritimum in Andalusia and the bulbs have been very, very deep in the sand.
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Gerdk on August 22, 2008, 02:38:39 PM
Good morning Gerd ,

as you know :

"only the early cat catch the birds"  ;D

You love cats, I like birds - so " the early bird catches the worm "  ;) ;) ;)

Gerd,
thanks for that idea, I will try it with P.maritimum. We saw P.maritimum in Andalusia and the bulbs have been very, very deep in the sand.

Renate,
Please try it - I saw the Pancratium in the greenhouse at Wuppertal, it grew perfectly.

Gerd
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Hans J on August 22, 2008, 02:51:48 PM
Gerd :

do you know this ?

'Morgenstund hat Gold im Mund' ......( you know I'm a dental technican )  ;D
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Armin on August 22, 2008, 10:33:34 PM
Renate,
a beautiful flower plant :o
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Renate Brinkers on August 22, 2008, 10:46:06 PM
Gerd,
yes I will, cross your fingers for interesting pictures next year.

Thanks Armin,
now I hope for the next species - theres an unknown which didnīt flowered til now...
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 22, 2008, 11:32:47 PM
Hans,

Has this anything to do with gold fillings in teeth? (You being a dental technician)

Or who put the gold in Morgenstund's mouth?

Paddy
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Hans J on August 23, 2008, 07:25:36 AM
Hi Paddy ,

this is really a very old verb in germany - please look :

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenstund_hat_Gold_im_Mund

this verb is orginal in latin and it is truly translatet :

aurora habet aurum in ore

this means if you stand up early so you can do a lot good things  ......in my work we says this verb because we must work always with gold ....

the opposite of this verb is
"Morgenstund hat Blei im Hintern" .....should I translate it ?
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Armin on August 23, 2008, 08:50:10 PM
Paddy,
Hans,

"Morgenstund hat Gold im Mund" is the same as "The early bird catches the worm".

Cheers.
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 23, 2008, 11:30:15 PM
Ah, now I understand. Many thanks.


Armin, we sometimes continue the saying: The early bird catches the worm but it is the second mouse which gets the cheese.


 Paddy
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Renate Brinkers on August 24, 2008, 10:58:01 AM
Hi Paddy,
thats the best one!
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Armin on August 24, 2008, 11:11:23 PM
Paddy,
I didn't know that saying yet but it is a good one ;D
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Cris on September 01, 2008, 06:06:45 PM
Hi

I also have some seedling of Pancratium canariensis. They were sown this spring, so they are very little.
The flowers are very beautiful. Do you know how much time it takes to bloom from seed?
Well, I shall wait 14 years to see the flowers of my little Brunsvigia ::)

My Pancratium maritimum now as no leaves, but the 2 year seedeling maintains their leaves ok.
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Renate Brinkers on September 25, 2008, 12:18:31 PM
Hi Cris,
I think it should take four to five years until you can get flowers.
I hoped to get seed from mine but unfortunately they didnīt set seed.
Title: Re: Pancratium canariense
Post by: Cris on September 29, 2008, 01:33:38 PM
Hi Renate
Thanks for the information. I realy must wait :-\
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