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Title: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 05, 2008, 09:54:20 PM
I better start a new thread here, rather than piggy back onto Switzerland. 
We spent a week in Ischgl, in the Silvretta region of Austria which is almost as far south and west as you can get before you hit the Swiss border.
The weather was cold at the beginning of the week, with fresh snow falling on land above about 2600m
Intrepid travellers at the Austria-Swiss border (husband Michael and sister Carol)
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 05, 2008, 10:01:30 PM
There were orchids in abundance
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 05, 2008, 10:03:00 PM
And the gentians weren't bad either
... more later when I have edited some more pictures
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 05, 2008, 10:06:03 PM
Super start, Diane... thanks.
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Armin on August 05, 2008, 10:08:21 PM
Lovely pictures Diane.
Please post more...
 
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: ranunculus on August 16, 2008, 07:43:01 PM
We all echo Armin, Diane ... we are ready for more ... please....
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 16, 2008, 07:51:59 PM
Diane,

Keep the photographs coming, please. Very promising start, would love to see more.

Paddy
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 16, 2008, 08:10:08 PM
Indeed, we are all waiting expectantly for more photos from Diane, but I understand the lady is busy with houseguests and housepainters and seedlists.....none of which is conducive to leisure time for posting on the forum... we must be patient, my friends  :-*
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on August 16, 2008, 11:15:22 PM
And the gentians weren't bad either

Good Lord!
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 17, 2008, 10:34:33 PM
Indeed, we are all waiting expectantly for more photos from Diane, but I understand the lady is busy with houseguests and housepainters and seedlists.....none of which is conducive to leisure time for posting on the forum... we must be patient, my friends  :-*   

And potting up hundreds of pots of bulbs and cyclamen, and putting up a new Access frame ...    :'(
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 17, 2008, 10:47:49 PM
Well, here's a start
We stayed at Ischgl in the Silvretta region, a small resort, but well served with local buses and cablecars.  Clearly much more of a winter resort than a summer one, many of the walks were on ski runs or tracks through ski areas.  The snow was still lying at the top (third week in July) and it was very cold at the beginning of the week, although it got gradually better as the week progressed. 
High up we found Lloydia serotina, sorry for scruffy picture, but I was so excited to find it and it was the only plant. 
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 17, 2008, 10:52:20 PM
A few views from above Ischgl, some erosion here due to skiing, but it didn't spoil the wealth of flora
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 17, 2008, 11:01:24 PM
The orchids were growing in profusion, at the beginning of this thread, I showed a field of them.  Mainly Dactylorhiza ?fuchsii in wetter areas and Gymnadenia conopsea in slighly drier areas, although sometimes they were together

Dactylorhiza sp
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 17, 2008, 11:04:08 PM
Gymnadenia conopsea could be easily identified by the fantastic scent
I think the second picture is an beautiful albino of the same species, can anyone confirm?

Gymnadenia conopsea
Gymnadenia conopsea white form
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 17, 2008, 11:12:18 PM
Keeping on the orchid theme

Nigritella nigra
Pseudorchis albida
Platanthera bifolia
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 17, 2008, 11:18:07 PM
Still more orchids

Traunsteinera globosa
Coeloglossum viride

Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: ranunculus on August 18, 2008, 07:33:29 AM
Lovely photos Diane ... looking forward to more.

Your white Gymnadenia looks right ... have seen a small colony in Val Gardena (Italy) this July.
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: ian mcenery on August 18, 2008, 01:56:50 PM
Great Diane - keep em coming!!
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 18, 2008, 10:26:04 PM
Diane,

What beautiful plants, great shots.

Paddy
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 18, 2008, 11:07:23 PM
The gentians seemed in particularly good shape

Gentiana nivalis
Gentiana verna or bavarica  G verna confirmed by Franz
Gentiana acaulis
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 18, 2008, 11:10:31 PM
My word! Who couldn't love a gentian?  Those blues!  8)
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 18, 2008, 11:16:12 PM
And a rhodo for you Maggi
Rhododendron ferrugineum
And Loiseleuria procumbens in fruit
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 18, 2008, 11:25:28 PM
Good to see the Loiseleuria with those fine seed pods, Diane.... handsome, aren't they? Never seen 'em so plump.

Thanks for the rhodos, by the way! I must say my rhodo fixation has been satisfied very well by the  posts from these year's assorted summer trips to the mountains by you folks!  Not to mention the big Rhododendron arboreum ssp campbellii in Otto's  snowy Dandenong garden! 
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 18, 2008, 11:28:06 PM
A few random bits and pieces

Primula farinosa
Campanula barbata
Lilium martagon
Gentianella germanica

Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 18, 2008, 11:34:07 PM
Off for an early night, to dream of rhodo covered hilsides and drifts of gymnadenia conopsea, scenting the air!

Diane, are you "back to school" yet, or is it just Scottish schools?

My little neighbour starts tomorrow at primary.... as does Jean Wyllie's grandaughter, Lottie...... :D
Happy days, eh? :D
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 18, 2008, 11:40:03 PM
Off for an early night, to dream of rhodo covered hilsides and drifts of gymnadenia conopsea, scenting the air!
Diane, are you "back to school" yet, or is it just Scottish schools?
My little neighbour starts tomorrow at primary.... as does Jean Wyllie's grandaughter, Lottie...... :D
Happy days, eh? :D 

not such an early night! but enough for now.  No school yet, English schools typically go back around the first Monday in September, so a good while yet, to continue all those jobs (still around 400 cyclamen still to repot and plenty of bulbs not yet done, and new Access frame to glaze and fill with a ton of sand  ::)  )
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 18, 2008, 11:47:24 PM
Just as well restart later for you, then  if those are all to be repotted ! We are not putting out a list this year so some bulbs are not yet repotted but we are catching up on tree pruning  :P
Thank goodness for the chance to make these virtual mountain visits here in the Forum........does us good after all that chopping and shredding... thanks!
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 19, 2008, 12:24:22 AM
Diane,

Loved the gentians.

Wish Maggi would stop talking about back to school - it comes soon  enough!

Paddy
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on August 19, 2008, 08:35:57 AM
Wonderful show Diane !
I agree with messages above : the Gentians are super !!
Thanks for extending our holliday feeling !
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 19, 2008, 05:40:28 PM
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Wish Maggi would stop talking about back to school - it comes soon  enough!
Sorry, Paddy, I extend my sincere apologies to you  :-*
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 19, 2008, 06:54:09 PM
Forgiven, Maggi.

Diane's photographs more than compensate for the momentary recollection of work.

Great report, Diane, really enjoying it.

Paddy
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: hadacekf on August 19, 2008, 08:11:08 PM
Diana,
It is Gentiana verna. Beautiful plants and great photographs.

Edit by Maggi : refers to this post on previous page:  Re: Austria 2008
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2008, 11:07:23 PM »  
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
Diana,
It is Gentiana verna. Beautiful plants and great photographs.

Thanks, Franz, good to have confirmation from an expert   8)
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 09:55:58 PM
Here was an interesting sign - marking the watershed between the Rhine and the Danube.  All water from one side eventually ending up in the North Sea and the other side ending up in the Black Sea
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 10:07:58 PM
But on with the plants ...
Some taller plants

Adenostyles alliariae
Cicerbita alpina
Campanula glomerata
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 10:09:57 PM
The easy way to the top (notice it's a double decker cable car)
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 10:13:17 PM
Mountain view and
Invasive lupins by the lake
Llamas
Help needed here on ID: Little/Short tailed blue?
?Fritillaria sp?
 
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 10:23:08 PM
Antennaria dioica
Linaria alpina
Myosotis alpestris
Salix reticulata
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 10:31:13 PM
This batch I would welcome confirmation or otherwise of names

Saxifraga stellaris (confirmed by Franz)
Campanula ?rotundifolia (confirmed as C scheuchzeri)
Androsace ?obtusifolia  but the foliage is not very obtuse so is it A chamaejasme? (confirmed as A obtusifolia)
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on August 19, 2008, 10:41:34 PM
A lovely set of phogographs, Diane.

I was very taken with Cicerbita alpina in Switzerland. It struck me as a lovely plant, so glad to see you considered it worth posting a photograph of it here. It doesn't really match the general expectations of an alpine plant but it certainly is a good plant.

Of course, the other plants are all excellent also.

Paddy
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 19, 2008, 10:46:21 PM
An interesting fern, I think Botrychium lunaria
Natural rockery and crevice
Doronicum grandiflorum
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: ranunculus on August 20, 2008, 07:18:06 AM
Beautiful image of Doronicum grandiflorum Diane ... competition entry perhaps?   ;)
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on August 20, 2008, 10:21:15 AM
Beautiful image of Doronicum grandiflorum Diane ... competition entry perhaps?   ;)
Now there's a good idea, Cliff .....it's a bosker!
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on August 20, 2008, 10:21:50 AM
I agree !!! Wonderful pic !
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: hadacekf on August 20, 2008, 08:51:09 PM
Diana,
It is
Saxifraga stellaris
Campanula scheuchzeri
Androsace obtusifolia
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 20, 2008, 08:59:45 PM
It is Saxifraga stellaris, Campanula scheuchzeri, Androsace obtusifolia

Thank you Franz, I don't know what we do without you (and I'm pleased I wasn't too far off)
Do you have any thoughts on the orchid? (message #13 on this thread) - do you think it is an albino Gymndenia conopsea?


And I hope someone may have a go at identifying the butterflies??
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on August 21, 2008, 10:27:18 AM
The black butterfly with white speckles is the Grizzled Skipper (Pyrgus malvae). The blue looks like a Dusky Blue, but I'm not sure? Will have to check. The frits are difficult to identify from above.
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Ian Y on August 21, 2008, 11:21:52 AM
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The frits are difficult to identify from above.
So the fritillary butterflies are as tricky as the fritillary flowers, then, Anthony?  ;D
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: hadacekf on August 21, 2008, 07:06:24 PM
Diana,
Sorry, I am not a orchid expert.
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on August 22, 2008, 04:25:43 PM
It is Saxifraga stellaris, Campanula scheuchzeri, Androsace obtusifolia

Thank you Franz, I don't know what we do without you (and I'm pleased I wasn't too far off)
Do you have any thoughts on the orchid? (message #13 on this thread) - do you think it is an albino Gymndenia conopsea?


And I hope someone may have a go at identifying the butterflies??

It is an albino of Gymnadenia conopsea in message #13 !
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on August 22, 2008, 06:00:41 PM
It is an albino of Gymnadenia conopsea in message #13 !

Thank you Gerhard for that, it was a stunner
And thanks to Anthony for having a go at the butterflies.
Title: Re: Austria 2008
Post by: shelagh on August 23, 2008, 02:31:12 PM
It sure looks like a Botrychium lunaria to me.  We found it on a day out with the Yorkshire Fernies led by Barry husband of our own forumist Anne Wright.  I couldn't believe it was so tiny, having only ever seen pictures.
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