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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on August 01, 2008, 12:23:08 AM
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Still the middle of winter here but spring is around the corner!
And I don't have any new daffodil pics to show!Hopefully over the weekend I'll get a chance to get some more pics in daylight.
Here's a pic of a seedpot of Delphinium luteum.
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There was a discussion last year on the Forum about this species. Someone in the USA couldn't receive seed of it because it is a protected plant!
I posted a pic of the parent plant in flower as I wasn't sure if it was true to name and soemone replied that it was. I thought it looked a bit pale and wondered if it was a hybrid. I grew it from NZAGS Seedex seed originally.
cheers
fermi
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Well that's a bit silly. If it was protected then you'd think they'd want all they could get of it.
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Lesley,
It makes as much sense as Customs authorities destroying CITES plants if they don't have the proper authorization papers! The systems were set up to protect the plants but in the end just end up protecting the bureaucracy!
I think the system in the US is if a plant is under a particular protection order (endangered or threathened) then no one can trade or propagate it legally, except some institutions such as Botanic Gardens or Universities. I remember talking to Norman Singer about this in regard to a rare penstemon he and Geoffrey Charlesworth grew. Because they got it before it attained its protected status they were allowed to continue growing it, but they couldn't sell or even give away any of it! Believe me I would've tried if I could, but they would've been prosecuted if it became known that I got my plant from them! It sounds crazy, but maybe I have it all wrong; perhaps one of our US Forumists could shed some light on the situation?
cheers
fermi
cheers
fermi
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Strict laws is to make it easy for the ones who uphold the law.
Even if You have a plant in the garden and grow plant from that how can You prove that You did not just dig up the plants. Or the reverse (stealing from the forest and claiming home grown) so no trading= no digging is the idea. I can see some logic in it but there are other sides to it that make it less logic.
Hopefully there might be others that know the rules that can make it clearer for us.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hi all
Well, as Lesley has mentioned, it has been extremely wet here in New Zealand. After 2 weeks of solid rain and flooding, it looks as if the worst has passed.
Just some hellebores, reticulata irises, Crocus and Hepatica in flower at the moment.
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The Hellebores are nice, but where are the pictures of Crocus, Reticulate Iris and Hepatica?
We could do with some of your rain - it is promises, promises, promises.
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Unfortunately, today's rain prevented pics of the others :(
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Well since it's nearing the end of the Oxalis season for me, thought I would post some pics.
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And a couple more
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Ross, do you keep your Oxalis under cover?
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No. They get whatever comes thier way. They can get a little dry in winter when they are growing/flowering so I have to water fairly frequently, especially since the bilbs are crammed in there.
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I think most bulbs like to be crammed in, though, don't they? Ian ( the Bulb Despot) Young even uses polstyrene/styrofoam pellets as surrogate bulbs to create the effect of a crowded pot for those bulbs he has only a few of 8)
Good to see you have got your photo attached to your profile, Ross..... you are winning the prize for best-dressed forumists' pic so far! ;)
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LOL. I stay away from the front end of cameras generally, but had to have my photo taken for a publication
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Yes, very nattily dressed. You get my vote also.
Paddy
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Nice pictures of some nice plants Ross, I don't grow any Oxalis but I must put that right soon.
Arthur, if you need rain you can have some of mine, I have lots to spare. We are only a small Island but a couple of hundred miles East in England can make an awful lot of difference as far as rainfall goes.
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Nice Oxalis. I have these but under some different names, involving fulva and glabra. Never quite sure what's what with Oxalis. Is your massoniana still flowering. Mine finished about May/June I think.
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Welcome, Ross, looking forward to seeing more of your garden.
Here are a few things from our place.
Firstly a Glenbrook Cyclamineus Hybrid, "Slip'ry"
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More of the row of Narcissus (possibly)"Smarple", another Glenbrook creation,
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And yet another of Rod's 'hoops', this time "Ianmon"
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And nearby the first florets are openning on the spikes of Bulbinella cauda-felis.
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More later including some pics from Otto's garden!
cheers
fermi
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Here are some pics that Otto took which I said I'd post for him. I hope that I get the names straight!
I think this is the one Otto thinks may be Iris histrioides "Lady Beatrix Stanley"
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If anyone can say one way or the other we'd be pleased to know!
This is Iris histrio (or is it I. histrioides?) originally form E.B.Anderson in 1964.
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And this is iris histrio ssp aintabensis MT4501 collected by Mathew and Tomlinson in Maras, Turkey, recieved from Brian Mathew 1976.
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And another "retic", Iris danfordiae
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This is the form collected by Janis Ruksans in Turkey.
Next is Fritillaria argolica.
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And finally A tall white hoop-petticoat raised by Rod Barwick of Glenbrook Bulb Farm in Tasmania.
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cheers,
fermi on behalf of Otto Fauser.
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As well as Otto's own pics, here are a few of mine, as our garden club paid a visit to Otto on the weekend.
Here's a general view to give you an idea of the lie of the land - very steep!
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And here's the man himself, looking a bit blurry due to my photography or is it because of the cap?
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Otto is well known for his bulb collections especially galanthus, crocus and iris. Here are a few:
Galanthus lining a pathway:
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Galanthus ikariae
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Galnthus "Spindlestone Surprise"
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Pots of special snowdrops heeled-in in compost!
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A single plant of Corydalis popovii
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One of my favourite "retics", Iris "George"
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More later!
cheers
fermi
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O. massoniana is just hanging on and about done. It's been a wierd season.
Nice Oxalis. I have these but under some different names, involving fulva and glabra. Never quite sure what's what with Oxalis. Is your massoniana still flowering. Mine finished about May/June I think.
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Fermi
Your shots of Narcissus brighten up any day - particularly 'Slip'ry' The clump of 'Ianmon' - did you plant a lot, or has it clumped up well?
Thank you for posting Otto's photos and your own of his garden
Is that a public road that can be seen in your first picture? How high is the garden above the road? I would be worried that people would steal from the garden - does this happen?
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Fermi, what is the tree behind Otto, with the huge pink flowers ?
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Maggi,
Looks like a Rhododendron to me. A very early Rhodo if so. Ours up here don't open for ages yet, but then again this year is very strange weather so you never know what will be flowering at what time.
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Fermi,
Love the 'Slip'ry', and haven't seen the 'Ianmon' before either. That Bulbinella is particularly choice though. Nice white. Do you have the pink species as well? I've just got the "normal" yellow one, but when it comes into flower (a while yet) it is such a show. Your white looks to be a good eye catcher, and if it is this early usually then it's a nice time for it too.
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Wonderful work Fermi !
Great Narcissi - is "Ianmon" really as small as it looks ? It looks hardly 2" high ??.
Otto's Iris histrio is my favourite amongst the Iris'
Thanks a lot for the Spring feeling !
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Fermi,
Great show; lovely plants and especially good to get a view of a garden - nice to compare garden layouts from the southern hemisphere. Otto is very obviously an enthusiast and the garden looks wonderful. The snowdrops look very well.
Like Maggi, my eye was taken by the tree with the pink flowers. It strikes me as possibly a rhododendron though it seems very upright and tall rather than having the usual spread of a rhododedron. Looking forward to you naming it.
Paddy
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Thanks for posting those Fermi. Otto's garden looks a very special place.
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Lovely to see some of Otto's early bulbs. Just another 5 weeks until I'll be there :D Corydalis popovii seems to be stoniferous? I have a few little ones in one pot but one potted on its own is coming up in 6 places around the edge of the pot, even behind the label. Some buds too.
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Thanks Fermi for putting those photos on. Not lucky enough to be crossing the ditch next month. Keep on with the posting. Very nice bulbinella indeed.
Susan
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Fermi, what is the tree behind Otto, with the huge pink flowers ?
Hi Maggi, yes, it is a Rhodo, but you'll have to ask Otto which one!
Susan,
very sorry you can't be here, but maybe sometime soon, we'd love to repay your hospitality from when we visited NZ in summer!
Here are a few more from Otto's garden.
A lovely soft pink form of the Chilean Bellflower, Lapageria rosea.
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Cyclamen and daphne
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Nice hellebores!
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More later,
cheers
fermi
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I don't want to wait a month to come down there for a visit...... I want to see all these wonderful plants in flower in person, and I know they'll be over by then. :'(
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Some will be over but there will be masses more, so don't cry :'(
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Lesley, but that Galanthus and Hellebores will be mostly over, and you KNOW how much I love them. Of course the Frits should be out by then, which will be a bonus, but still is a shame to miss the Galanthus. A bit too far for a day trip too unfortunately (well 700+km each way is a LOT too far for a day trip, actually. ;)).
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Fermi,
Is that Lapageria out now? Mine (only the old red one) does not flower until late summer and in fact has still got a bud left despite snow and frost.
Susan
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Susan,
What snow, what frost - all I have seen lately is rain though I must admit I have not been able to see what is happening up in Halfway Bush through the murk.
Fermi,
Very much enjoyed your postings from your own and Otto's garden. I see bulbs flourish in the relatively dry climate ( from our point of view).
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David, we've been known to have the odd centimetre or two of rain lately, but then we in the banana belt of Dunedin where the olives are about to flower, do look forward to a little snow to clean up the pests occasionally. The odd thing is that from our lofty heights, sometimes the peninsula is hidden behind a heavy veil of mist so maybe that is what is clouding your vision!
Susan
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Can't believe the size of the pink Lapageria flowers! Fab! Felllow forumist and near (about 3/4 mile away) neighbours, Brian and Maureen Wilson grow these very well but I don't think I have seen such large blooms there.... must be a really fine form , Fermi!
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And really superb examples of alliteration Maggi. Did you need to go into a darkened room to conjure them up? :)
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No, Lesley, constant alleyways of alliteration are a super side effect of my marvelous medication ::)
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More from Otto's garden; A clump of Colchicum diampolis in bud
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A fine patch of Retic iris "Harmony"
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A self coloured form of Iris bucharica,
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In the little alpine house, some Dionysia aretioides in flower,
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Cyclamen alpinum,
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Corydalis wilsonii (I think!)
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And Corydalis solida forms
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cheers
fermi
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Can't believe the size of the pink Lapageria flowers! Fab! Felllow forumist and near (about 3/4 mile away) neighbours, Brian and Maureen Wilson grow these very well but I don't think I have seen such large blooms there.... must be a really fine form , Fermi!
Maggi - How hardy do you think these Lapagerias might be?
dreaming...
johnw
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Thanks Fermi for posting so many photos of my garden and plants. It was great to welcome 50 members from our Ferny Creek Horticultural Soc.to my garden, followed by afternoon tea/ coffee inside, haven't had that many people in my house, there were many helping hands and everyone brought a plate.
Maggi , you were right , the tree with pink flowers is Rhododendron arborium ssp. campbellii , 30 years old, and 10 metres tall.You will get a better overview of my garden from the DVD I sent you afew weeks ago, the one the ABC =Australian Broadcasting Commission- Television made of my garden . My garden is not fenced in , and in 30 years not one plant has been taken, the invitation is there :Cyclamen, Crocus, Snowdrops, etc . planted on the roadside!
Lesley, I have never found my plants of Corydalis popovii to be stoloniferous, for me they do not divide or make offsets- but they are longlived- I had one tuber that lived for 35 !!!years, grew to the size of a tennis ball and then died.
Susan , my Lapagerias flower here also in Feb. March, April, but that pale pink one has lasted for over 2 months -it is actually white , but has turned pale pink,I think because of winter,s cold.
Fermi ,the 1st. Iris ret.picture is actually the one, that "old" E.B.Anderson sent me bulbs of in 1964, a long time ago, I would be grateful if some one could identify it :is it I. histrio or histrioides? and is the 2nd . photo the clone "Lady Beatrix Stanley"of I. histrioides? many thanks.
Thanks for all your kind remarks to you all,
Otto.
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Fermi
Your shots of Narcissus brighten up any day - particularly 'Slip'ry' The clump of 'Ianmon' - did you plant a lot, or has it clumped up well?
Hi Arthur,
Thanks for your comments, I particularly like "Slip'ry" though it's a giant compared to some of the ones that Keira Bulbs produce!
"Ianmon" has clumped up after a couple of years but I did divide it last year! I would've originally started with 1 or 2 bulbs - I can't afford to buy these by the dozen! And in our climate these "hoops" tend to multiply freely.
cheers
fermi
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Otto,
Apparently those histrioides cultivars come down ot minor differences in the signal and fall markings. I have a very similar one (to the second of the pics Fermi posted) that was identified as Iris histrioides 'April Tears' (or some name like that anyway) when I asked about it on a list or here a year or two ago. Hopefully someone here will know for sure, or else put a pic of it down in the ID section or the Iris section to see what people think of it. A lot of people don't seem to come into the Southern Hemisphere threads (thanks to those regulars who do), whereas I think the other areas might get more viewing and therefore more chance of IDing it. Mine are still to come yet, but I will carefully photograph when they're in flower for comparison. I would suggest if still possible to get a good detail photo of the markings..... makes it a bit easier when someone inevitably asks. Of course this may mean you need to get help from someone else to take it for you who can actually get down that far to get a closeup photograph. Here's hoping your back isn't bothering you TOO much right now.
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Thank you, Otto, I do like that rhodo....I wasn't aware of that pink form, which is especially nice.
As it happens, we have just been enjoying the DVD, so now we feel we have really visited your garden! A triumph to have made such a charming garden on a challenging slope like that....and the programme gave what seemed like a good flavour of it... and you!! 8) Most kind of you to send us the dvd....I suspect it will be viewed often.
Thanks too for the Iris photos... Ian is puzzling over them.... :-\
I'm amazed that you could cope with all those visitors when you are having such terrible problems with your back...you must have been quite exhausted when they all left? They must have had the most glorious visit though, in spite of the rain!
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Paul, you probably mean 'Angel's Tears.'
Otto, Maybe the corydalis has just made long under-surface leaf stems, to come up so far from the centre (well, only about 5 cms). I'm sure it's correctly named, the seed was from Franz Hadacek. If mine lives for 35 years, I'll be 100 so we can both go together, gracefully. :)
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A lot of plants do seem to relish this type of "sneak underground to the edge of the pot as fast as I can" mode of growth, don't they? Can be quite bothersome ( even a scunner ::) ) when you're trying to make a neat show pot at times ::) ???
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Lesley,
I could very well have meant that, I just don't remember for sure. If that is a variety then that would likely be it. Thanks for the correction. :)
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Otto,
Apparently those histrioides cultivars come down ot minor differences in the signal and fall markings. I have a very similar one (to the second of the pics Fermi posted) that was identified as Iris histrioides 'April Tears' (or some name like that anyway) when I asked about it on a list or here a year or two ago. Hopefully someone here will know for sure, or else put a pic of it down in the ID section or the Iris section to see what people think of it. A lot of people don't seem to come into the Southern Hemisphere threads (thanks to those regulars who do), whereas I think the other areas might get more viewing and therefore more chance of IDing it.
Hi Paul,
I'll re-post some in the iris pages.
cheers
fermi
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The last couple of pics for today (posted some in the Iris retic section and the Crocus section as well)....
Another of the double Helleborus, this one is named 'Double Queen' and has I think been tissue cultured. Glorious flower on a good healthy grower (which some of the doubles don't appear to be). Also, another of the Narcissus romieuxii, this one called 'Ben'bler'. I am very impressed with it as it is such a pure gold, perfectly shaped, and hopefully in the future a little longer in the stem. Quite a few of them are flowering quite short this year, but we've had some quite warm days which are confusing things. Glorious 14'C yesterday and I was actually out in a T-shirt enjoying the sun and working in the garden.
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Long stem or not, a really interesting flower - good intense colour !
Paul, is 'Ben'bler' a collection from Morocco? The name sounds Arabic for me.
Gerd
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Gerd,
Very intense colour, by far the strongest colouration out in flower yet in the hoop petticoat daffs, but there are still qutie a few to come. I'd really call this one a surperior form, that is for sure. What is particularly amusing is that when it was half open it looked totally boring. I thought it was "just another bulbocodium" at the time due to shape etc, but as it has expanded the shape has perfected and the colour has seriously intensified. Now, I wouldn't be without it. Just goes to show that first impressions as they open can be SO wrong! ::)
As to the name..... I think it is another naming from Glenbrook in Tasmania, but I am not sure of that. I know that Fermi posted a pic of 'Slip'ry', which I am assuming is in the same series by the use of the apostrophe, but I really don't know anything about origins. This 'Ben'bler' was given to me by a friend who regularly gets from Glenbrook (I slipped off their list while I was ill as I could not afford to order, and I have unfortunately never contacted them to get back onto the list to get a catalogue), so I am assuming that was it's origin breeding-wise. Others here will likely know far more than me. This is only my first year with it, so I am yet to find out how well it multiplies etc. I am hoping it will multiply like some of the others, because if it does then I'll have quite a few by the end of this season. Sorry I can't be more help with the origins of the name.
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Paul
just noticed that you admired Deinanthe caerulea, there is a nice clump growing in my garden , in almost complete shade and always moist, you are most welcome to take a piece home when you visit in september. I admired Lilium fargesii, do you knowif anyone in Australia grows it ?
Otto.
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Otto,
Visiting your place is going to be VERY dangerous I think. ;D I hadn't heard of Lilium fargesii myself either. Rob K in Tassie may have some idea as he is far more of a Lilium connoisseur than I am. He'd be far more likely to have the contacts to find out. Otherwise I can always ask for you on Lilium-L if you'd like?
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Paul, I shall keep you in check. In all fairness, anything I can't take home, you won't be allowed to either. ;D
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Lesley,
Well if that is the threat I am not talking to you when I'm down there. If you're going to threaten me like that you obviously aren't the nice person I USED to think you were!! :o :o ;)
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A few photos taken today.
Cyclamen coum & ssp coum
dark oxalis
grey succulent
Hermodactylus tuberosus
Iris grant-duffii
Narcissus fernandesii
oxtongue lily leaves
variegated hellebore
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Pat,
The variegated Helleborus... is that one of the orientalis types? if so, I've never come across one before? Where can I get one? I love variegated plants, but that is one I haven't come across before.
On to your other pics.... nice Cyclamens, your Hermodactylus tuberosus are only a few days ahead of mine I think, and that Narcissus fernandesii is so cute (also a few days off for me)! Great Stuff!! 8)
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Pat, what is an "oxtongue lily", please? Also, I don't recognise the "grey succulent".. it looks like silver water hyacinths!
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Paul, just noticed your pic, in Reply 49, of Narcissus romieuxii Ben'bler, such a little beauty. Is it a SH raised bulb?
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Maggi,
The "Ox Tongue lily" is Haemanthus coccineus I think (unless Pat has a different species that she knows as that). Also known as "Paintbrush Lily" here too.
David,
I think it is a Glenbrook release, from Tasmania. Graham of the minature daffs fame would know for sure.
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I couldn't think of the botanical name of the ox-tongue lily at the time - thanks for supplying the correct name.
Yes the variegated hellebore is from Helleborus orientalis seed - came as seed from a friend in Ireland who grew some seed and one of the seedlings was a variegated form - subsequently named 'Graigueconna' by Rosemary Brown (my most favourite garden which is threatened in the fairly near future - if only there was a way to save this plantsperson's paradise!!). Rosemary sent me 5 seeds back in the 90's or maybe the 80's and one was variegated. I have never been able to raise another variegated one from seed since. I have divided it once and sold a piece (well I was offered a very good price so I did divide off a piece which was very difficult)
The grey succulent is a common plant in Australia - don't know the botanical name - I got a piece from an old local cemetery.
I would like the correct name for this and also for the plum coloured leaf oxalis.
Any hints on getting the Iris grant-duffii to flower will be gratefully received - it is known to be a shy flowerer in cultivation. At least the sun is out today so I might be able to get out there after so many chill damp days.
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I think the oxalis is O. purpurea 'Nigra.' Same pink flowers as the regular form with green leaves.
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Some spring things are already in bloom here!
"Campernelles", Narcissus x odorus
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And under a salvia bush, so it required a flash- Retic iris "Clairette"
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cheers
fermi
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Lovely, Fermi.
And Lesley is write when she writes somewhere that the retics smell of violets..... the 'Pauline' that I posted recently (the unknown one) in the sun smells exactly of violets. The 'Harmony' that is just opening was disgustingly scented, but it was only just opening so I imagine it will settle down. 'Gordon' had no perfume at all as far as I can tell.
Lesley, why did you have to wait to tell us about the perfume until after I'd made my crocus garden and put all the retics in there? Would have been SO much easier to smell them when they were in their pots. ::)
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Well I think I've mentioned it before Paul. Anyway, it's good to dig things up and put them elsewhere. Stops us getting complacent. :)
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But I'm really comfortable with complacency!! :P
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Pat,
My Hermodactylus tuberosus opened today. I noticed it when I was out sniffing the retic iris as Lesley suggested. ;D
A shame that the Helleborus isn't available anywhere. A very desirable plant from my point of view. :)
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Paul if you give me some cultural hints on getting the variegated hellebore to increase rapidly - I should really repot it anyway as it has been in the same pot for a few years - what do you feed your hellebores with?
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Pat,
Helleborus in general prefer to be out of pots, but if potted then definitely best to repot regularly. I feed them with dynamic lifter and the Bulb food that I've mentioned elsewhere, making sure to add a soil wetting agent to stop the soil becoming water repulsive. Straight repotting seems to rarely bother them at all, but I do tend to try to shake most of the older media off, then make sure that the new media fills in the gaps amongst the roots. I think regular repotting is the only way that most hellebores will survive long term in pots (except x ballardiae which apparently doesn't seem to mind for at least a few years), but you can also leave the pot in a place where the roots can escape out the holes, which seems to give them the longer root run that the pot normally restricts.
As to dividing... I find that at this time of year they really do not mind being divided, but keep them a little on the drier side if dividing smaller pieces off as they can rot fairly easily. We have a local Helleborus breeder here who sells them every few years divided and in flower, just one or two points and roots, and very rarely do they ever not survive (he wraps the roots in damp newspaper for selling). The big thing is to be careful on the watering after replanting.
That all any help?
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Had a possum come through and somewhat less in the way of hoop petticoat daffs are now flowering my pots! ::) Thankfully leaves were left alone. The 'Ben'bler' that was shown previously had two glorious flowers on it yesterday that I had been enjoying immensely..... all gone today! :'( Just goes to show that I should be doing what I have done other years, and move them out to a rack near my front door where I can see them regularly. Too late now though unfortunately. I had been hoping for seed set so I could send some off to people, as it had been fairly popular. Still, now that it no longer has flowers maybe it will dedicate itself to multiplying instead so I'll have extras. ???
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Had a possum come through and somewhat less in the way of hoop petticoat daffs are now flowering my pots! ::) Thankfully leaves were left alone. The 'Ben'bler' that was shown previously had two glorious flowers on it yesterday that I had been enjoying immensely..... all gone today! :'( Still, now that it no longer has flowers maybe it will dedicate itself to multiplying instead so I'll have extras. ???
Oh well, there's some good to come from this misfortune, Paul! It's one I hadn't got from Glenbrook yet! The GBF catalogue says "Ben'Bler" is a Div 10Y-Y bred from "Spoirot" x ""Julia Jane".
Here's another pic of the Bulbinella cauda-felis,
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And its much taller cousin, B. robusta
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Nearby is a clump of lemon "hoops" that I got from a friend, Shirley, in the Dandenongs and I thought it was Narcissus bulbocodium var. citrinum, but I wonder now if it's one of the GBF range?
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Another uncertain one has become a clump over a few years and is most likely "Kholmes", another GBF "detective series"
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On a sad note, I found that a clump of Narc "Snowski" has become virus-infected! :-[
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I can see that you have the dratted red spider mites too - rotten little sapsuckers!
Thanks Paul for the cultural notes for the hellebores - I will repot soon.
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Fermi,
Love that white Bulbinella. What is the "common" yellow one? I have it in mind as B. nutans, but maybe that is incorrect? Your B. robusta looks somewhat more robust to me. The first of the unsure hoop petticoats looks to me Spoirot, but I don't have a full range of GBF stuff to know what others he has that are similar.... do you have that elsewhere to compare? I don't have Kholmes unfortunately so can't give you any idea as to whether it is that or not, but whatever it is you have I definitely rather like it. Nice softer colour and shape to it. If 'Ben'Bler' multiplies successfully I'll share a bulb with you if you haven't already bought it by then. Thanks for the info re ID.
And I worked out that it was birds, not possums that did the munching after I found one of the flowers of 'Ben'Bler' under our massive magnolia about 4 metres away (and now safely in a vase, albeit with a fairly short stem). A possum would never have carried it that far, it's have eaten it or dropped it immediately, whereas the rosellas nip and carry to munch. I do hope it isn't the pair of Eastern Rosellas that we have nesting at night in our pittosporum in the back yard..... I love having them there but would not want them to be damaging my garden. Whatever attacked the daffs I think would have also been what hit the hellebores a couple of weeks ago. :'(
Pat,
Good luck with the repot. I would suggest if possible to at least divide it carefully in two, so that you don't only have the one plant. That way you have backup. Unless of course you can still get a piece back from the person you sold the piece to, in which case that is your backup. I always get a bit nervous having only one of something, particularly if it is not replaceable. I try to get a piece off to someone "off site" so that if anything happens in my own collection there is a piece to start from again somewhere else. Isn't paranoia wonderful! ;)
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David, Fermi is correct, Ben'Bler is an introduction from Rod Barwick of Glenbrook Bulb Farm. Rod has introduced a large number of miniatures over the years, including a large number of bulbocodium hybrids. He is noted for miniatures produced by making what I term "left field crosses". Rod is the other big Australian miniature hybridiser. Keira Bulbs (ie my wife and I) is the other large Australian miniature hybridisers. Rod has been instrumental in us becoming miniature hybridisers and we grow most of his introductions and as exporters around the world have helped spread his introductions.
If you looked carefully at our postings you would have noticed that we have bred quite a few bulbocodium hybrids. So far we have only named "Clay's Gold" a giant yellow bulbocodium named after a well known daffodil enthusiast in the US. We breed giant bulbocodiums and tiny bulbocodiums.
Ben'Bler is a particularly fine giant bulbocodium. Rod's other two large bulbocodium introductions are Mitimoto and Olumbo.
Rod is also the king of the miniature double (we are a long way behind him in this area) and a leading breeder of fertile jonquilla hybrids.
I have posted a few of Rod's flowers that illustrate his hybridising skills.
Paul, the flowers being cut off is Currawong damage. I picked up another 100m roll of anti-bird netting day to ensure that our miniatures are protected from the evil cockatoos and currawongs.
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Graham, thanks for that. I drool over all your pictures by the way!
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Fermi and Graham,
great stuff! Enjoyed your pictures. :)
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Graham,
Some beauties in there. Re currawong damage ... I've never had anything like this before, and they must do it first thing every morning (more flowers gone this morning). The thing is that they took a couple of bearded iris off as well, looking decidedly chewed where the chomping happened, but clear above and below. Only happening in one part of the garden and have never had anything like it before. Why would they suddenly start doing this for no reason, and why only ever first thing in the morning?
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Re currawong damage ... Why would they suddenly start doing this for no reason, and why only ever first thing in the morning?
Hi Paul,
Because it's before you get up to shoo them away!
I can see that you have the dratted red spider mites too - rotten little sapsuckers!
Hi Pat,
yes, the red-legged earth mites are the bane of my life once the cool weather brings them out of hiding! I wonder if they are acting as vectors for the virus I'm noticing this year?!
cheers
fermi
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Despite our hot climate we can grow some shade loving things! Here's a nice patch of Cyclamen coum which has developed over the last few years.
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Another dwarf narcissus doing well this year is "Topolino"
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In a hot spot we have this South African daisy going mad: Dymondia margaretae
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And this unnamed Globularia enjoys similar conditions; anyone hazard a species name for it?
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
You're so far ahead of my place daff-wise. I have Tete-a-tete out in the daffs and that is all other than the hoop petticoats and N. cordubensis. Not other variety out at all in either pots or the ground.
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A few photos taken today.
Cyclamen coum & ssp coum
dark oxalis
grey succulent
Hermodactylus tuberosus
Iris grant-duffii
Narcissus fernandesii
oxtongue lily leaves
variegated hellebore
Pat,
In which conditions do you grow your Iris grant-duffii?
Iris grant-duffii is very rare in Israel and it grows only in few locations.
It grows in undrained soils where the rain water creates swamps.
All the best,
Miriam
Here is a picture of Iris grant-duffii from northen Israel:
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very lovely photo of this fine iris, Miriam. 8)
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Great to see this picture of one which I doubt is in NZ though there is perhaps one person who may have seed. I'll ask next time we have a coffee together which should be soon.
Fermi, have you considered the possibiliy that your Globularia may be an aster or an erigeron? You'll be better able to judge from the plant itself, but from the enlarged pic, the base of the flower is erigeron-like. Leaves are ???
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Miriam,
The story behind my Iris grant-duffii - 5 seeds were given to a an iris species friend and expert in Victoria - seed came via UK iris expert from Mr Cohen in Israel. This friend gave me two of the 5 seeds and I germinated one in 1999. I do have the excellent book - A Guide to Species Irises and their identification and cultivation edited by The Species Group of the British Iris Society.
I read the cultivation notes in this book: "a heavy, degraded limeston soil or alkaline, uncalcareous soil (sucha s basalt soil) seems best. Heavy feeding is suggested, especially a low-nitrogen and high-potash diet. Maximum sunlight is needed in the flowering period. The plant must be protected from rain in summer( as with the high desert irises) althought it should be winter-hardy in temperate climates. The species is easy to raise from seed but it will be ready to flower only after 6-7 years."
I grow it on a hillside facing east and slightly south. As it is down the hill it can get seepage (in wet years) - the soil is slightly alkaline clay loam on the heavy side but drainage material added before planting the seedlings. I now have 3 good sized fans and two smaller fans. I guess I can water it with a potash rich liquid fertilizer without overdoing it as it comes from seasonal damp meadows and open turf fields, flooded in winter; sea level to 800m. We are about 380 metres here.
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You're so far ahead of my place daff-wise. I have Tete-a-tete out in the daffs and that is all other than the hoop petticoats and N. cordubensis. Not other variety out at all in either pots or the ground.
Hi Paul,
Tete a tete is yet to open here, so you are ahead on that one!
here is another Cyclamenius hybrid, though not a dwarf, "Cyclades"
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And GBF's hoop "Ianmon"
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Next are two South Africans, though not the best examples!
The first flower open on Babiana pygmaea
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More earth mite damage on Lachenalia reflexa,
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yes they will scrape away the leaf surface until they make a hole!
Fermi, have you considered the possibiliy that your Globularia may be an aster or an erigeron? You'll be better able to judge from the plant itself, but from the enlarged pic, the base of the flower is erigeron-like. Leaves are ???
Hi Lesley,
no this is definitely a globularia; it's been "going 'round" the group for many years. I think I originally got it from the Ferny Creek Hort Soc Plant stall, but just as Globularia sp. I must try to key it out one day. i'll try to post a better pic a bit later in the season.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I like the two daffs, particularly the Cyclades. How widespread are the Earth Mites down your way? Should I be bringing anything back with me from Victoria without expecting to bring along hitch-hikers? ???
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Fermi,
I like the two daffs, particularly the Cyclades. How widespread are the Earth Mites down your way? Should I be bringing anything back with me from Victoria without expecting to bring along hitch-hikers? ???
Paul, the earth-mites are pasture pests and our garden ( and I daresay, Pat's as well ) is surrounded by pasture so we keep getting re-infested. However (so far) they are easily controlled with Pyrethrum spray.
Here are some new pics from the weekend.
Slightly smaller flowers than Babiana pygmaea, but more of them - B. odorata, which is very pleasantly scented.
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I'd missed the first flowers on the next two Moraeas, the first is the delightfully citrus scented M.macronyx. Yes, Paul, it'll be on the Plant Stall!
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And the next was moved without a label from another bed, but maybe M. ciliata,
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The flower is similar to M. macronyx so I cross pollinated them to see if they're compatible.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I was sitting open mouthed at the yellow and white combination Moraea, then read your comment and had to laugh. That IS spectacular!!!!! How tall is the last unknown of yours? I find here that M. ciliata only ever reaches a few inches high, in a pot anyway, and for me has one lonely flower every year that most years I find after it has curled up (this years was about a fortnight ago, and Yes I missed it! ::) I did get a photo of mine last year if you want me to post it for comparison? Whatever yours is, I think it is very elegant, and I don't recall thinking that about ciliata!? :-\
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How tall is the last unknown of yours? I find here that M. ciliata only ever reaches a few inches high, in a pot anyway, and for me has one lonely flower every year that most years I find after it has curled up (this years was about a fortnight ago, and Yes I missed it! ::) I did get a photo of mine last year if you want me to post it for comparison? Whatever yours is, I think it is very elegant, and I don't recall thinking that about ciliata!? :-\
Hi Paul,
yes, I'd missed the first flowers on both of these but the "unknown" deigned to flower again! I now have enough of M. macronyx that I caught the first flowering of some in a pot while I missed those in the sandbed.
Both are only a few inches high.
A photo of yours would be worthwhile for comparison.
cheers
fermi
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Here are some reticulta type iris which are in flower in the Rock Garden:
"George"
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"Clairette"
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And "Springtime"
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And yet again, good ol' "Harmony"
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Here's a better pic of Narcissus "Topolino"
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And a close-up,
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And just to keep the white fever burning, here's Galanthus "Ophelia"
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and in close-up
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cheers
fermi
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Wow Fermi you do have some treasures don't you?\
Today I thought I would weed an area where I put in some bulbocodium seedlings years ago - 1997 to be exact and I have left that spot to mother nature. It stays fairly dry as there are a couple of pines nearby which sap up any excess moisture but there were some jolly little flowers blooming so I thought I better check tags and renew.
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Lovely Fermi, gives us rain soaked Brits something to look forward to.
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For those of you who remember the pics from Otto's garden here is a very different view!
These were taken by Margi Petzke from the Ornamental Plants Collection Association of Australia, Now the Garden PlantsCollection, as they were visiting the week after the FCHS Rock garden Group!
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Tim was there to lead the group down to Otto's.
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It was a bit snowier than when we visited, but Otto was ever the ready host!
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And the galanthus looked at home!
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And remember this Fritillaria?
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And these crocus?
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I'm pretty sure there's a cyclamen under here!
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And some Narcissus cyclamenius!
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And Maggi, just for you, Rhododendron arboreum ssp campbellii
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And, yes, I did get Margi's permission to post her pics here!
cheers
fermi
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Great pics, I just can't get my mind to relate to snow and Oz combined!
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Thanks Fermi - wonderful plants.
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Fermi,
Great pics. The snow must have made viewing the treasures in Otto's garden that bit more challenging! ;)
I love the Iris retics..... I have some of those out as well, plus 'Gordon' is still flowering, and 'Violet Beauty' is currently out. A couple more have buds but I don't expect many more after that. Hopefully next year after they have had this spring in the new garden they will be better flowering. My 'George' isn't flowering this year unfortunately. It is a pain to photograph isn't it? Never as rich in the pics as it is in real life. I am hoping that mine may still send up a late flower, but I think it was one of those that was really suffering in the pots. ::)
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Great show Fermi !
Snow in Australia... as David wrote... somehow it feels funny ??? ;D
The Moraeas you showed earlier on are simply stunning !
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Thanks for all of these Fermi. Can't see too many of Tim and Otto. ;D
Tell me what you can about the differences between 'Springtime' and 'Clairette.' Is it just the one is paler than the other? I may have one wrongly named as they seem pretty much the same. But neither is out yet so I can't compare. Coming, but more rain, more snow and predicted to go on at least to the end of the month.
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Great show, Fermi,
I notice from one photograph that the labels are quite close together. It seems gardeners everywhere want to squash in as many treasures as possible.
Paddy
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Paddy,
It's gardening addiction combined with space constraints. Same the world over for those of us who live in suburban blocks I think. Different for those who have decent acreage of course.... like I would like to have. permanent water too would be nice, some high tree cover from trees that don't have invasive roots... a nice pond with an island in the middle for the ducks to nest one.... I don't want much really!! ;D
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In spite of continued rain I had to go and take pics of these. Both are worse for the weather but will most likely be mushed if I wait any longer. Both have some more buds though. I'm hoping the damage to the white one's leaves is continual rain rather than anything nastier.
First Iris aucheri, 1st flower from seed, 5 years.
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Great show, Fermi,
I notice from one photograph that the labels are quite close together. It seems gardeners everywhere want to squash in as many treasures as possible.
Paddy
Hi Paddy, if it's the pic of Galanthus "Ophelia" you mean, it's because that's in one of the few shady parts of our garden, so I do hav eto cram in as much as I can. Unfortunately it does make the place look like a graveyard for mice, especially during the summer when there's no growth above ground.
Tell me what you can about the differences between 'Springtime' and 'Clairette.' Is it just the one is paler than the other? I may have one wrongly named as they seem pretty much the same. But neither is out yet so I can't compare.
Hi Lesley,
I'm not too sure either! I got "Springtime" from Palmiro, another keen grower of Dwarf Iris, and hoped to compare the two of them. The pic I posted was just as it unfurled and the darker colouring maybe due to that. I should've got another pic on the weekend but forgot!
cheers
fermi
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Then there is the first flower on Corydalis popovii. I'm very pleased with the colour as I'd expected it to be more white than this.
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Not a good pic. With 6 attempts I still couldn't get the flowers in focus!
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Super Juno's Lesley - love both of them.
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Great Junos, Lesley.
A couple of recent pics from my garden as well.....
A rather nice variegated Euphorbia called 'Tassie Tiger'.
a double hellebore.
a couple of shots of a very small hoop petticoat daffodill called Narcissus bulbocodium graelsii.
Spiloxene linearis is just starting to flower, but rarely getting enough warmth to actually open any of the flowers. :-\
And a couple of different shots of my Moraea ciliata for comparison with Fermi's from the previous page. What do you think Fermi?
I'll also post some pics in the Galanthus and Crocus areas, plus a Glad in the South African section.
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Paul,
Did you buy the Euphorbia direct from the source or is it available locally for you?
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It was actually given to me by a friend in the Southern Highlands, who got it from Tasmania originally I think?
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Interesting Euphorbia, Paul.
Earlier I posted a pic of a Narcissus cantabricus grown from seed labelled "var clusii", but this one appeared to be "var monophyllus".
Two more have flowered and appear to be "var monophyllus" as well!
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Now for more retics!
Iris "Marguerite"
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Iris"Pauline"
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And a clearer pic of Iris "Springtime"
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Great Narc. Pure white by the look of it?
Is your Iris retic 'Marguerite' variegated?
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It was actually given to me by a friend in the Southern Highlands, who got it from Tasmania originally I think?
The 'Tasmanian Tiger' is Sally's introduction from a seedling found in Barb Jennings' place; it's supposedly become very popular overseas - popular enough to pay for a new bathroom (allegedly!). I've even seen it in our local Bot. Gardens, but without a credit to either of them. Very good en masse.
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Rob,
I'll correct the name of it.... I didn't realise it was 'Tasmanian Tiger', not 'Tassie Tiger'. I knew that it had originally been sold by Sally, but couldn't afford to buy it at the time when I used to receive her catalogues years ago before she stopped sending them. I'd imagine it would be stunning en masse, given that even one single plant in a small pot is quite noticeable. Must try propagating a piece off it as I get paranoid about having only one of something in case it dies. ::)
Thanks for the info.
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It does quite easily from cuttings Paul.
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I'm assuming severing one of the lower shoots without buds, leaving it to dry for a few days, then into a sandy mix with hormones?
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Most of that, yes, but I wouldn't let them dry for a few days. I'd put them in sand right away. Whatever works for you though.
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Lesley,
OK, I thought they were of the succulent persuasion and would rot if not allowed to dry off at the cut surface. However, I've not done much in the way of cuttings of Euphorbia, whereas you know them. Glad I wouldn't have made the mistake of drying them and diminishing the chances of striking. Thanks for the info.
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A couple of daffodils - Yornup has 2 lemon and the bright yellow - if Yornup H A Brown 1939 is Y-Y would the single bright yellow be the one correctly labelled.
Ababa H A Brown 1929 - narcissus from Hancocks.
Also a Juno which flowered for the first time - seed came as Iris aucheri mixed forms Leylak Station. The colour was a surprise - any comments.
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Pat,
That is one impressive juno. So much darker than anything I've ever seen (I've only seen pics though in most cases. ;)). Such a wonderfully strong colour.
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Paul,
We grow a very similar euphorbia here - no label with it as far as I know, but it is a pretty thing.
Re propagation of euphorbias, these bigger garden varieties at any rate: Mary's practice is to wait until the stems have reached about a foot in height; she then cuts off the top 6 inches and pushes in into the ground to the side of the clump or somewhere else if she wants a plant there. Her idea is that by cutting back the plant at this stage it will thicken up and be less likely to flop over later on in the year. There is also the benefit of increasing the clump and spreading the plant through the garden. Sounds simple and it apparently is as the euphorbias do very well here, their only drawback being flopping at this time of year - over soft growth due to too much rain, I think.
Paddy
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Paddy,
Not a problem we have here!! ;D Mine is only about a foot tall in flower, and so I am intending to take off a couple of the lower shoots for propagating. Given the flowers are terminal I doubt it would work as a cutting, plus I'll let it set a few seeds and see what results in the seedlings. Might even try crossing it with a dark red type to see whether I could fluke some nice red and white variegated plant! ;D
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There are of course, many succulemt Euphorbia species, mostly African I imagine but so far as I know, the variegated forms around are selected seedlings from E. characias. I would also expect that any seedlings the variegated forms might produce are likely to be either green like the original, or fully cream-coloured, with no chlorophyll and so would collapse very quickly. I don't want to destroy your dreams Paul, but again, it's unlikely that you'd have much joy hybridizing with the red-leaved kinds either. Plants tend to cross-pollinate within their groups within a genus. Still, nothing ventured.....
Pat that is the wonderful dark form that Tony Hall called 'Storm Cloud' or 'Storm Warning' or something similar. I hope you're hand-pollinating. The Leylek Station sems to be an outstanding source of different colour forms of. I. aucheri from white through to this stunning dark blue.
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Lesley,
As you say... nothing ventured.....! It will at least be fairly easy to identify those with variegation, unlike having to wait for something to reach flowering size to see if you want it.
Still can't get over that flower on Pat's iris. :o
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Fermi,
Is your Iris retic 'Marguerite' variegated?
Hi Paul, I checked this morning and it didn't look variegated; I wonder if Marcus got them mixed up? I just got it this year.
Pat,
that Iris aucheri from Leylek Station is a stunner. :o How long did it take from seed?
Just one plant pic this morning, Tropaeolum tricolor growing on a Euonymus "hedge" out in the open and apparently unaffected by recent frosts.
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cheers
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Fermi,
Tropaeolum tricolor isn't affected by our frosts at all, even in pots in the open in the backyard. -8 or -9'C in a 7 inch black plastic pot doesn't bother it in the slightest, flowering madly. We had -6 or so the other night and hasn't even damaged a leaf or flower. :D Isn't it SUCH a cool plant? I have Tropaeolum brachyceras just coming into flower here at the moment as well.... wish I grew more of the tuberous types but haven't found them as yet.
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Great Narc. Pure white by the look of it?
Yes it is, Paul, and yes, it'll be on the stall!
Here are some other daffs in flower at our place.
First another clump of Narcissus "Snowski", hopefully no virus in this lot!
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And N."Tete a tete" has started here too, Paul.
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One of the larger (actually one of the largest) Daffodils is "Kathleen", a lemony trumpet,
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cheers
fermi
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Pat , congratulations on flowering that deep, deep purple-black form of iris aucheri .I flowered the same coloured one last year, it is having a rest this year. I find I . aucheri is one of the easier ones , together with I. bucharica ,vicaria , planifolia ,magnifica, flourishing in the open garden. Most Junos take 4-6 years to flower from seed for me.
I. aucheri has been collected on numerous occasions in Turkey, many times at Leylek Station, your very dark one could be the collection no.ANM 2822 , or KPPZ157B . Other collections from Leylek Station have been given names such as"Leylek Ice" ,"Snowflake", "Shooting Star", "Vigour" etc. At the moment I have a bicoloured in bloom, white and medium blue, rather nice.
Ciao Otto.
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Lesley,
I'm not sure whether to post this here where you asked the question, or whether to post it in the retic thread. If the powers that be want to move it to the retic section then go for it. 8)
I've photographed the Iris reticulata 'Springtime' and 'Clairette' (the latter just opened) for you here for comparison. I find that the 'Clairette' has a much purer pale blue in the arms etc, whereas the 'Springtime' has much more mauve/purple in them, making them look totally different. The 'Clairette' is a two tone blue, whereas the other looks purply and darker, dspite the fact that the falls really aren't that different in actual shade of colour. There is more white on the falls of 'Clairette' in the individual that I have out at the moment, but that may not be representative. This helpful in working them out?
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Thanks for these pics Paul. I'l need to go and look at mine. Only 'Springtime' is out at present and it could have got mixed up anyway. I didn't expect to see so much yellow on the falls, in either one.
I think 'Shooting Star' might have been what my brain couldn't remember (not Storm something), when talking about Tony Hall naming some clones. That was certainly one which he brought here in 2000. It flowered twice out of season both times and then died without making seed.
Much as I admire and respect Tony, I doubt if there's much point in naming a clone which ultimately won't be distributed from divisions, except on a very limited basis, though I suppose it looks good on a show bench. Better to go for seed and a "strain" name.
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Much as I admire and respect Tony, I doubt if there's much point in naming a clone which ultimately won't be distributed from divisions, except on a very limited basis, though I suppose it looks good on a show bench. Better to go for seed and a "strain" name.
Take your point about naming, Lesley, but it may be that Tony gave plant the varietal name because it got an award from joint rock ( or Iris ??) RHS committee and then it has to havea varietal name to have award confirmed.
That rule is a galloping anachronism.... complaints are made that awards should be made to a species ( not just talking abou iris here, of course) because certain species are considered generally great plants, then when award is made, it is only ratified if name is given to that specimen... crazy!
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You're probably right Maggi, about the plant being up for an award. Tony gave me 5 clones, all with varietal names, all different colours.
I agree entirely about the varietal naming being an anachronism and I believe it is also unethical. It really makes me angry when an entirely wild plant, i.e. a plant collected from the wild, is introduced with a varietal name. A wild species IS NOT 'Bill Bloggs' or 'Jane Doe' or who/whatever. It is (just) a genus and (just) a species, maybe with a subspecies name as well.
A certain south-of-England nurseryman gave such names to many plants he had collected in the mountains here in New Zealand - I was with him at the time - and it made my blood boil. My reaction was "who the hell does he think he is, to be naming our native flora after his friends and relatives?"
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I get a bit ratty about naming species, think that is daft, though I think it is useful in hybrids etc so that you can know what it is you are getting......look at some of the muddles we get into tryingto decide WHAT it IS we are growing!! :-\ :( ???
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Otto,
The Iris aucheri came from BIS 519 2001-02 seedlist.
Iris aucheri, mixed forms all ex Leylek Station pale blue to deep violet purple UK
I have emailed Margaret to see if she can give me more details.
It was a heck of surprise when I saw the bloom and checked the tag to see it was an Iris aucheri form. So very different.
So it must have taken 6 years to come to flower.
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Pat,
And what a nice surprise to have!! ;D
Here's a couple more things flowering today...... The Tropaeolum brachyceras is less than an inch wide on fine twinings stems climbing up whatever it can find. The Iris reticulata 'Edward' is a new purchase this year. It is probably a bit bluer than in the picture, but the strong orange signals are very noticeable, and certainly different to anything else i have in flower by way of retics this year. Should I be posting these retic pics down in the retic thread as well?