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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Diane Whitehead on August 22, 2025, 02:03:45 AM

Title: a tall thornless rose
Post by: Diane Whitehead on August 22, 2025, 02:03:45 AM
I have had two tall David Austin roses, Generous Gardener and Tea Clipper,  for about ten years. 

Today I noticed an equally tall rose - way over my head - with two thornless unbranched canes that have emerged right against the David Austins.  There are sweetly scented pale pink flowers at the top of each.

Could the David Austins have been grafted onto this for a rootstock?

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Title: Re: a tall thornless rose
Post by: Vinny 123 on August 22, 2025, 07:33:12 AM
Even on very old roses, the graft can usually be easily seen, so if you can, investigate the base of the plants.
Your uninvited guest seems to be very similar to Generous Gardener except in the number or petals - could it be a sport of the variety? If it is from Generous Gardener, will it persist, as in flowers of that form?

What rootstock is used varies across the world, but as your original plants appear to be climbers, in the UK they would probably be grafted onto Dr. Huey, itself actually a rambler, which has deep red flowers (shrub roses are usually grafted to Rosa laxa stocks, which has simple white flowers). Where David Austin might produce plants for N America, would take some digging, or just ask them direct.
Title: Re: a tall thornless rose
Post by: Diane Whitehead on August 22, 2025, 06:22:59 PM
Thanks, Vinny.

A sport certainly sounds possible, and I like having no thorns.  I'll grow some seeds from it.
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