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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: Maggi Young on June 23, 2008, 09:13:01 PM

Title: query : Thalictrum??
Post by: Maggi Young on June 23, 2008, 09:13:01 PM

Hello, Folks,
 a message received from Nancy Scherer.........
"Hello!

 I recently bought a plant from a nursery here in the US that was
 labeled Thalictrum fendleri. The nursery owner said that she got the
 seed from your organization. When I Googled on the plant's name and
 looked at the photos, they were all of a different plant. Would it be
 possible to email you a photo of the plant I bought and see if anyone
 there can identify it? I just want to know its real name and its
 requirements, not to return it or complain about it!

 Thank you so much!
 Best regards,
 Nancy Scherer  "

Here is the plant in question.....
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I have to say, on first look, it doesn't seem to me to BE a thalictrum!  ::) :-\ :-X
Suggestions, Friends, please.

Title: Re: query : Thalictrum??
Post by: arisaema on June 23, 2008, 10:03:26 PM

T. lucidum (http://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/plants/magnoliophyta/magnoliophytina/magnoliopsida/ranunculaceae/thalictrum/lucidum-1b.jpg) or relative?

Title: Re: query : Thalictrum??
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 23, 2008, 11:30:38 PM

I don't think it is a Thalictrum. Wrong sort of foliage.

Title: Re: query : Thalictrum??
Post by: Maggi Young on June 24, 2008, 04:25:15 PM

Arisaema, yes, I suppose T. lucidum or angustifolium ( if those are not synonymous!)
 I have just received this note from Nancy .......

"Hello Maggie and Ian,

The best plant nerd I know here in Minnesota, Henry Fieldseth,
suggested  Thalictrum cooleyi 
(  http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/detail.cfm?imgnum=1241357 ) which
is perhaps not quite it, but at least shows that a Thalictrum can have
foliage like my mystery plant has!

Thanks again! I will keep checking your forum in case someone can
identify the plant for sure. Maybe the person who provided the seed in
the first place.

Nancy"


Just been checking up on these three and it seems that it almost certainly one of them!! We have never grown a thalictrum with this sort of leave, only the kind with the rounded, gingko/aquilegia type foliage!

This may be a helpful link: http://www.robsplants.com/plants/ThaliLucid.php

Title: Re: query : Thalictrum??
Post by: Afloden on June 25, 2008, 01:47:33 AM

Hello,

 I have one from Russian seed that looks identical to that plant. I was hoping for flowers again this year, but no luck. Last year they were white, but I was not identifying Thalictrum last year. If I get a minute tomorrow I'll run by the library to check the Flora of the U.S.S.R.

 Aaron

Title: Re: query : Thalictrum??
Post by: basia_k on June 25, 2008, 08:34:04 PM

Mixed with "normal" flowers of T.aquilegifolium are yellow flowers of T.lucidum. The plant's foliage is invisible here, but it is is absolutely the same as in the photo shown in the first post.

Regards, Barbara.