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Title: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 20, 2023, 11:22:02 AM
Cyclamen elegans a few weeks ago and today with some snow.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Leena on January 24, 2023, 10:24:43 AM
Herman, very nice flowering!
The seeds I got from you germinated well in the autumn after about three months from sowing, except C.purpurascens didn't, but I expect to see it germinating later next spring.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on January 24, 2023, 01:22:25 PM
Herman, very nice flowering!
The seeds I got from you germinated well in the autumn after about three months from sowing, except C.purpurascens didn't, but I expect to see it germinating later next spring.
Leena that is good news. Let me know if you need new seeds this year.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Claire Cockcroft on January 30, 2023, 11:42:17 PM
Cyclamen intaminatum in an alpine house, unfazed by 21 degree F (-6C) weather

...Claire
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Pauli on January 31, 2023, 05:29:04 AM
Looks very much like coum .....
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Claire Cockcroft on January 31, 2023, 05:29:56 PM
Yes, it does look like C. coum.  I've had this plant since 1998 under the name C. intaminatum.  All this time under the wrong name? :(
...Claire
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 01, 2023, 01:55:27 PM
Cyclamen intaminatum in an alpine house, unfazed by 21 degree F (-6C) weather

...Claire
Claire, the flowers from intaminatum are smaller and here it flowers already in October. Cyclamen coum start flowering now.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: partisangardener on February 01, 2023, 04:55:31 PM
Claires is certainly no C. intaminatum. Which has nor dark marks on the flower and another flower shape. Intaminatum refers to the flower without dark marks at the mouth.
C.intaminatum should start flowering between July and August.
Hermans might be C.cilicium which is a close relative to intaminatum. Later flowering and more elegant thinner petals make me doubt the C.intaminatum.
But in this case I do not know how much they vary.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 01, 2023, 05:36:59 PM
Claires is certainly no C. intaminatum. Which has nor dark marks on the flower and another flower shape. Intaminatum refers to the flower without dark marks at the mouth.
C.intaminatum should start flowering between July and August.
Hermans might be C.cilicium which is a close relative to intaminatum. Later flowering and more elegant thinner petals make me doubt the C.intaminatum.
But in this case I do not know how much they vary.
Axel, my Cyclamen intaminatum came originally from the late Jan Bravenboer in the Netherlands. They spread around.  I have added another more detailed picture. Also a picture from Cyclamen cilicium in our garden that flowers at the same time.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: partisangardener on February 01, 2023, 07:12:10 PM
I personally would be cautious planting such closely related species in the garden. In nature they are divided by quite a distance and a lot of mountains in Turkey. They flower in the same season. What I read intaminatum starts a bit earlier.

C.intaminatum should have grayish veins in the white form. Pinks should have them in deeper pink. I do not know how consistent this is and if these species really do hybridize. In case they do, pure forms will not exist very long.
If the hybrid is sterile, no harm done, but I could not find information about the risk. Maybe someone does.
 
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Guff on March 16, 2023, 10:34:39 PM
Coum

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Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: MarcR on March 17, 2023, 04:41:37 AM
Guff,
Very nice!

Marc
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Yann on March 26, 2023, 08:21:44 PM
Cyclamen creticum, some find it difficult to grow and keep it, here my climate seems to please them.
an easy species from fresh seeds.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on March 31, 2023, 03:53:23 PM
Cyclamen rhodium ssp. rhodium. Is this name right or is it another subspecies?
I have been told that the colour should be lighter.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 10, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
Autumn flowering species started a few weeks ago.
Cyclamen graecum is the one that seems best suited to our garden even self seeding gently (with the aid of ants I presume).
The parent plant has not flowered yet and I worry that it has succumbed to some lurgy :-\
Here are pics of some of the seedlings in the same bed,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 10, 2023, 12:15:54 PM
This is a deeper coloured Cyclamen graecum which came from a friend who passed away  :'(
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 10, 2023, 02:57:23 PM
Cyclamen rohlfsianum in the rock garden
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: ashley on April 16, 2023, 05:39:17 PM
Lovely rohlfsianum Fermi.  Here they stay indoors ;D

But in the garden now (self-seeded), C. pseudibericum
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C. repandum
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Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 08, 2023, 02:52:02 PM
Cyclamen  confusum

Cyclamen mirabile f. niveum

Cyclamen purpurascens f. album
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 08, 2023, 03:19:02 PM
Cyclaman cilicium

Cyclamen colchicum
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: MarcR on September 08, 2023, 03:23:54 PM
Herman,

Very Nice!

My Cyclamen are about 5 weeks behind yours.

Marc
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 09, 2023, 09:02:37 AM
Herman,

Very Nice!

My Cyclamen are about 5 weeks behind yours.

Marc
Thank you Marc, Cyclamen are always delicious at this time of year. Most of them sow around the garden and make a beautiful display. The species are planted in groups in different parts of the garden.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 11, 2023, 06:08:16 PM
Cyclamen hederifolium in different colours.

Cyclamen intaminatum f. roseum, a very small Cyclamen, starts to flower.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on September 27, 2023, 01:42:25 PM
Cyclamen confusum
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on September 27, 2023, 04:49:54 PM
Some variety  8)
(https://i.imgur.com/tevUbPv.jpg)
Cyclamen hederifolium album
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Tomte on September 27, 2023, 06:40:46 PM
Some variety  8)
(https://i.imgur.com/tevUbPv.jpg)
Cyclamen hederifolium album
Rather looks like virus to me, or, less likely, another mobile genetic element causing colour break.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: MarcR on September 27, 2023, 10:29:44 PM
Rather looks like virus to me, or, less likely, another mobile genetic element causing colour break.

Regardless what caused it, it is very attractive :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Guff on October 07, 2023, 02:29:40 AM
Hederifolium


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Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on October 08, 2023, 09:02:39 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/QF8QGoMm.jpg)
Here is my purple cyclamen hederifolium.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on October 08, 2023, 09:13:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8LLcnFCl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ew6TyrAl.jpg)
When injured, the flowers acquire this color.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on October 08, 2023, 09:17:29 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/PPfNhaTl.jpg)
A beautiful cyclamen seed in my garden.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Leena on October 08, 2023, 04:00:17 PM
Very nice Cyclamen everyone.  :)
Stefan, your hederifolium has beautiful red colour.

I got seeds of white C.purpurascens from Guff last autumn, and the seeds germinated this August, just like my own C.purpurascens and seeds of purpurascens from Herman.
Seeds of C.hederifolium (not in the picture, they are already pricked out) and C.cilicium sown in August 2022 germinated in October 2022, but seeds of C.elegans sown also at the same time are germinating just now, a year later.
In the picture the pot on the top left. Top middle is C.purpurascens 'Album'. Thank you for the seeds! :) :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 11, 2023, 09:46:31 AM
This Cyclamen persicum is a seedling of one raised from seed designated "ex Israel" - possibly from Oron - quite a few years ago, I think from the AGS Seedex.
A recent heatwave (its only spring here!!) meant the collapse of the foliage but the flowers continued on after getting a drink.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: TerryH on November 14, 2023, 03:18:58 PM
I have about 15 pots of Cyclamen graecum (including ssp. candicum, 'Rhodopou' and 'Glyfada') in the glasshouse that have been grown from seed. Many are 10 years old but the rest are younger. All have produced splendid foliage this year but not one flower. I am sure most have flowered previously. I know they sometimes produce foliage before flowers but the flowers should have appeared by now. They have been watered moderately on the compost surface. Can anyone suggest why there are no flowers?
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Robert on November 15, 2023, 06:27:05 PM
Hello Terry,

Making a satisfactory diagnosis for your Cyclamen plants over the Internet might be extremely difficult. Variables of light, temperature, moisture and the availability of essential nutrients at critical times are all considerations. Visiting a nursery/garden center with competent personnel will likely yield quicker and more accurate results. There is a definite need to ask pertinent questions. Based on the answers additional questions will likely need to be made. I am in the U.S.A. Someone in your location will be aware of significant weather/climatic events that may be important contributing factors. Local experts will also better understand local disease and insect pests.

Good luck finding a solution to your Cyclamen issues.
Title: Re: Cyclamen 2023
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 10, 2023, 11:59:31 AM
Cyclamen mirabile f. niveum is flowering again. First it was flowering in August.
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