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Title: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 15, 2008, 03:09:10 PM
Yes, I know, I'm a bit late posting pictures from 6 weeks ago - sorry for that, but computer problems caused a lot of delay - here they come anyway.

We received a very warm welcome and a grand tour by Gerben Tjeerdsma who has now left the botanics, looking for a new chalenge ...  :'(  but obviously we wish him all the luck in the world in his new job  :D


The bulb season was nearing it's end, but there was still plenty to see in the covered bulb area :

First batch :

1) Allium akaka looked quite impressive

The Iris were the stars of the moment :

2) Iris camillae (Swedish colours  ;D)
3) Iris caucasica
4) Iris elegantissima (isn't that a very well chosen name ?)
5) and 6) Iris lineata x afghanica
7) Iris magnifica
8. Iris orchioides
9) Iris paradoxa
10) Iris paradoxa f. atrata



Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 15, 2008, 03:22:01 PM
Batch two - still in the bulb area :

1) my co-traveller kneeling full of admiration in front of so much beauty
2) Iris paradoxa f. Choshab
3) Iris sari
4) Iris stolonifera
5) Iris - unknown - sorry missed the name of this one
6) Narcissus jonquilla var. stellaris
7 and 8. Narcissus triandus var. cernuus
9) Ranunculus asiaticus
10) Ranunculus garganicus

Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Hans A. on June 15, 2008, 03:54:19 PM
Luc thanks for this pictures it is very interesting to see plants of  Gothenburg collections - never have seen such a dark Iris elegantissima looks near lycotis -  the Iris paradoxa is no one  - it should have narrow falls as the other forms you show have. ;)
The unknown Iris could be Iris sprengeri or a form of Iris acutiloba var. lineolata.
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: WimB on June 15, 2008, 03:56:46 PM
Luc, very beautiful pictures;

the irisses are stunning and I particularly like the ranunculus asiatica.
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lvandelft on June 15, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
Luc, nice series of pictures. alas mostly of plants which I cannot grow outside.
But nevertheless beautiful pictures.

(I was already afraid you were keeping your Gothenburg Tour just for yourself)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 15, 2008, 04:07:55 PM
Thanks for the comments guys and for clarifications in the naming.

I'm sure there will be plants you can grow later on Luit  ;D - I've got some tulips coming up for you  ;D and no secrets here, glad to share these, but a lot of technical problems belated this posting. >:(

Let me continue now :

Here's the rest from the bulb area :

1 and 2) : Tulipa hissarica
3) Tulipa montana - yellow form
4) Tulipa pithynica
5 and 6) Tulipa Vvedenskyi

I shall move on to the alpine houses next.

Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 15, 2008, 04:31:38 PM
First some impressive images from the Tufa house :

1) Gerben Tjeerdsma in the Tufa house
2 and 3 Verbascum dumulosum on Tufa

4) general view tufa house
5) Daphne petrea 'Lidora'

6) Daphne x susannae 'Anton Fadrich'

Then, Gerben took as further along into what he called his playground :

7) inside the alpine houses
8 and 9) Dionysia collection
10) Androsace hirtella

More  to follow
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: art600 on June 15, 2008, 05:14:36 PM
Luc
Well worth waiting for such an excellent series of photos.  Hope there are many more.

The Daphne petrea Lidora is stunning - if only I could get my Daphne to be so floriferous
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Paddy Tobin on June 15, 2008, 07:23:14 PM
Luc,

The botanic gardens certainly have organised their planting in a very visitor friendly manner. It seems a wonderful way to see a great number of plants in great comfort.

Ranunculus asiaticus is the one which caught my eye more than the others, a wonderfully beautiful plant.

Paddy
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: David Nicholson on June 15, 2008, 07:36:19 PM
Great set of pics Luc, even if we did have to wait for them ;D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 15, 2008, 07:53:47 PM
You're absolutely right Paddy - the way things are laid out, the friendly guide we had and the vast collection made the visit more than worth while.


The Daphne petrea Lidora is stunning - if only I could get my Daphne to be so floriferous

We can all dream, can't we Art ?

Isn't patience a great virtue David ?

Here's some more from the Alpine houses :

1) Androsace vandellii
2) Aquilegia scopulorum
3) Calandrinia affinis
4) Calandrinia affinis var. graminifolia
5) Calceolaria uniflora
6) Dicentra gothenburgensis - a new hybrid of their own
7) Dicentra gothenburgensis - another form
8. Dicentra oregana
9) Fritillaria persicum
10) Lewisia brachycalix rosea

That will be it for today - I'm off to watch some football now  ;D

I hope to post more later in the week.
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 15, 2008, 08:36:33 PM
So pleased you finally got there Luc. A wonderful series of pictures, especially the irises (for me). Many thanks. :D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: shelagh on June 16, 2008, 04:59:13 PM
Terrific pictures Luc, it just goes to show that you need to see a garden on a regular basis to discover all it's delights. Thanks.
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Magnar on June 16, 2008, 06:53:47 PM
Thanks a lot, lots of interesting plants to see. :) I have not been to Gothenburg that early in the season.
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 16, 2008, 09:09:59 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone !
Here's the last few from inside the wonderful alpine houses, they were really a treat :

1) Lewisia brachycalyx
2) Lewisia nevadensis forma rosea
3) Lewisia stebbensii
4) anoter Lewisia stebbensii
5) Lillium furiei - one of my favourites !
6) Oxalis hybrid - self seeded in the plunge
7) Oxalis lacianata - the lable shows where it was obtained...  ;D
8) Silene hookeri ingramii - also self seeded in the plunge
9) Viola rosulata ????

Still to come : the wonderful Rock garden and the fabulous shaded areas.
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Magnar on June 16, 2008, 09:47:54 PM
Breathtaking pics. I would have loved to have Lilium furiei and Viola rosulata in my garden  ;)
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: arisaema on June 16, 2008, 10:18:56 PM
Amazing pictures, thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Gerdk on June 16, 2008, 11:16:47 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone !
Here's the last few from inside the wonderful alpine houses, they were really a treat :

19) Viola rosulata ????


Luc,
Super pics - most interesting place!
The question mark seems to be quite rightly. Viola rosulata forms a much laxer rosette of a different colour (brownish). This is perhaps a white flowering Viola cotyledon. Wasn't there a label?  ??? ??? ???

Gerd
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: ranunculus on June 17, 2008, 07:25:46 AM
Wonderful images Luc ... please keep them coming!
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Hans A. on June 17, 2008, 08:16:18 AM
Luc , great pics again, hope you still have many pictures left to show.

@Gerd- i have some doubts if it could be Viola cotyledon - the shape of the flowers is different of V. cotyledon I have seen. I post a picture taken 2007 in near Laguna de Maule in Chile.


Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 17, 2008, 09:42:58 AM
I would have loved to have Lilium furiei and Viola rosulata in my garden  ;)
I was also very impressed by the Lilium Magnar - amazing how "Fritillaria-like" it looks isn't it.

Gerd and Hans - I won't interfere in the discussion about the Viola, I'm no specialist at all and I'm afraid I missed the label if there was one  :(

The viola you posted is an absolute stunner Hans, what a beauty !

Thanks for the comments all - glad you like the pix - there will be more when I find the time to resize and post them...  the football championship doesn't help here... ;D

Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Gerdk on June 17, 2008, 12:32:28 PM
@Gerd- i have some doubts if it could be Viola cotyledon - the shape of the flowers is different of V. cotyledon I have seen. I post a picture taken 2007 in near Laguna de Maule in Chile.

Hans,
The rosulate violas are  a complicated matter. So I don't  insist on ' cotyledon ', although it is known a variable species. Anyhow, your and Luc's pics show most beautiful plants.

Gerd
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Hans A. on June 17, 2008, 03:23:57 PM
Gerd -I agree, the nomenclature of this type of violas is very complicate - and I am far away of being a specialist in Violas... ;) 
It is fantastic to find them in nature and it is great to see they can be grown in Cultivation as Lucs photo shows. :D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lvandelft on June 17, 2008, 03:43:42 PM
Thank you for these nice pictures Luc! I really should travel to Gothenburg once, to see
it myself.

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Thanks for the comments all - glad you like the pix - there will be more when I find the time to resize and post them...  the football championship doesn't help here...

I'll forgive you this time, but only if you will be supporting the Dutch team. ;D 8)
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: David Nicholson on June 17, 2008, 06:39:38 PM
Luit, as far as the European Championship is concerned I'm a Dutchman ;D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Paddy Tobin on June 17, 2008, 06:45:25 PM
I'm Irish - when our team isn't in it we support "anybody except England". Just an old historic prejudice that we continue for the fun we get out of it.

And, just for those not familiar with such matters: in the Irish mind Scotland and Wales are  most certainly not English - as I'm sure they would very quicky tell you themselves.

Yes, David, the Dutch team certainly are providing the best entertainment at present. The German team might improve and provide some challenge but at the moment they are not very well organised.

Paddy
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: David Nicholson on June 17, 2008, 06:56:46 PM
Paddy, at least you got a vote in the 'other European thing'  ;D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Michael J Campbell on June 17, 2008, 07:11:27 PM
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at least you got a vote in the 'other European thing'
We did David ,and some people would appear not to understand the word NO.   ;D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lvandelft on June 17, 2008, 07:43:07 PM
oooooh, reading the last few replies  ???

I was only referring to the Dutch-Belgian rivalrytrying to tease Luc a bit.
And now the match is starting, so I'm off. :D :D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 17, 2008, 10:58:43 PM
Thank God no-one's discussing cricket at the moment> :o >:( :'( :-\
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Carlo on June 17, 2008, 11:18:02 PM
Cricket? I hear them every night.

Viva Italia! Through to the quarters--even after the debacle with the Netherlands...
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: ian mcenery on June 17, 2008, 11:38:58 PM
Luc just caught up with this thread - great pictures. Thank you for sharing .

Lesley I wont mention the cricket if you don't mention the rugby  ::)
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 18, 2008, 08:12:46 AM
 ??? ??? ???
My Gothenburg thread "about plants" has turned into something completely different....  ;D ;D

Luit,
As long as they play well, I support "Oranje"... ;D  after all we're good neighbours aren't we ?  ;D
Viewing yesterday's match, your "reserves" aren't bad either... 8)

Lesley and Ian
Don't know much about cricket or rugby though, but apparantly this is also a tricky matter  ::)  ;D


I hope to post some more pix tonight (before football  ;)   )

Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Katherine J on June 18, 2008, 08:18:43 AM
I hope to post some more pix tonight (before football  ;)   )

I hope so Luc, I'm waiting for it (very sorry, and apologize to all, I was never interested in football  ::))
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 18, 2008, 10:39:39 AM
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Lesley I wont mention the cricket if you don't mention the rugby  ::)

Like that is it? Fair enough. :) Hope the headlines you woke up to this morning turn out to be a storm in a teacup. :'(
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 18, 2008, 07:38:25 PM
OK, before football demands it's rights once again, here's some more from the Rock Garden.

End of April is early season up North in Gothenburg, so there wasn't much flowering yet.

Here's first some general views :


1) General view with pond
2) from the top of the rock garden
3) Rock garden with waterfall
4) Waterfall closer
5) Two happy explorers after discovering the Gothenburg Falls
6) The ladies had a good time too
7) Another view in the rock garden
8 Aubretia gracilis in a very nice spot
9) Draba dedeana
10) nice rockformation


More later
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 18, 2008, 07:52:22 PM
Another batch :

1) Erodium absynthoides
2) Glaucidium palmatum
3) Globularia trychosantha
4) Paeonia tenuifolia - just for the foliage !
5) Papaver suavolens
6) Pulsatilla patens
7) Pulsatilla pratensis ss hungarica - sorry a bit blurry.
8) Shortia uniflora
9) Tulipa orphanidea - wonderful tulip - now on my wants list  ;D
10) Tulipa orphanidea again

Hope I didn't miss the first goal..  ;D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: David Nicholson on June 18, 2008, 08:26:49 PM
Luc, my 'Wants List' is even further expanded!
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lvandelft on June 18, 2008, 10:46:50 PM
Luc, you are much better than the B. referee this evening.
You're showing only good things.
I hope there are still more pictures on your card ??
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 19, 2008, 08:00:39 AM
David,
My "wants" list has turned into a book !  ???

Luit,
I'm finished with the rock garden, as I wrote it was a bit early for the Rock Garden, but we especially wanted to see some bulbs so we had to make a choice. Only the shaded areas left to go now, but they were very impressive !!!

By the way, I thought the ref wasn't that bad - you let Mr Frank Snoeckx influence you  :P

Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Paul T on June 24, 2008, 11:53:47 AM
Luc,

Thanks for the "head up" re this topic.  WONDERFUL pictures!!!  Those irises, that Daphne!!  :o  So many fantastic things.  Your pics also confirm that I simply MUST find and grow Glaucidium palmatum!!  ::)

Really lovely pics.  Thanks for posting them so very much. (and of course the PM to tell me this topic was here)
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 24, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
I thought you might like it Paul  ;D

As promised, I still have the pix of the shade lovers to go - there were quite a few.

Here we go :

1 - 2 - 3 : wonderful peat beds with Trillium, Erythronium, etc...
4) Corydalis hybrid
5) Corydalis hybrid
6) Corydalis flexuosa "Balang mist"
7) Corydalis rupestris (actually this one was in the alpine house)
8) Corydalis solida

Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 24, 2008, 08:55:21 PM

As the Erythronium season is now well over, maybe this little flashback will be welcomed by some :

1) Erythronium albiflorum
2) E. americanum  - A wonderful stand - as we asked how they got them to flower so
    profusely (mine rarely do...) Gerben's answer was : manure ! lots and lots of   
    manure !  There were hundreds of flowers !
3) Erythronium dens canis "Purple King" - sorry, not the best of pictures
4) and 5) Erythronium hendersonii
6) E. oregonum x revolutum
7) E. revolutum
8) E. revolutum f. albiflorum
9) E. tuolumnense
10) E. "White beauty"

Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 24, 2008, 10:37:12 PM
Luc, these are wonderful pictures. Thanks for posting them and extending the season yet again. Did Gerben say what KIND of manure? Cow? sheep? horse? reindeer?
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 25, 2008, 07:57:41 AM
Hi Lesley,
He didn't give any further details, actually he used another word, he was talking about "sh.t".... "lots and lots of sh.t"...
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lvandelft on June 25, 2008, 08:06:09 AM
Hi Lesley,
He didn't give any further details, actually he used another word, he was talking about "sh.t".... "lots and lots of sh.t"...

In that case, as Gerben being a Dutchman, I understand he means Cow.  ;D
Title: Re: Gothenburg botanics - late April - early May
Post by: Lesley Cox on June 25, 2008, 09:21:11 PM
I guess that leaves the field open then but here we'd probably say bulls..t. Which is something we expect a lot of in weeks to come, a general election coming up.
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