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Title: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 19, 2021, 04:39:12 PM
Our neighbour (who we would like to keep on friendly terms with) keeps bringing us pathetic bits of wildlife that have been mauled by their cat, for us to 'look after'.
This week, my first ever sighting of a baby wren was of it in the last hour of its life as it died from shock and internal injuries. How can I let them know politely that I think it is their responsibility to deal with the injured prey?
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: ian mcdonald on June 19, 2021, 05:59:45 PM
Say NO and mean NO.
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: David Nicholson on June 19, 2021, 06:16:30 PM
Shoot the cat? ;) :D
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: ashley on June 19, 2021, 07:22:54 PM
Also suggest a loud bell on the cat's collar?
Unfortunately cats predate birds very heavily.
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 19, 2021, 08:32:45 PM
Shoot the cat? ;) :D
Hmmmm  ::)
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 19, 2021, 08:33:51 PM
Also suggest a loud bell on the cat's collar?
Unfortunately cats predate birds very heavily.
You mean something the size of Big Ben?  ;D
Bells on collars don't help with them raiding nests.
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: ArnoldT on June 19, 2021, 11:42:19 PM
Feral cats are a great source of friction in many communities.  Folks feed them and it doesn't seem to lessen the  the constant bird catching.

I wish there was an easy answer.

I find small piles of feathers around the garden frequently.

I only wish they would chase the squirrels that snatch my fruit as it ripens.
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 20, 2021, 09:23:42 AM
Feral cats are a great source of friction in many communities.  Folks feed them and it doesn't seem to lessen the  the constant bird catching.

I wish there was an easy answer.

I find small piles of feathers around the garden frequently.

I only wish they would chase the squirrels that snatch my fruit as it ripens.

They are welcome to the wood pigeons who have taken to stripping all the leaves off my trees.  >:(
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: Tristan_He on June 20, 2021, 09:52:09 AM
Our neighbour (who we would like to keep on friendly terms with) keeps bringing us pathetic bits of wildlife that have been mauled by their cat, for us to 'look after'.
This week, my first ever sighting of a baby wren was of it in the last hour of its life as it died from shock and internal injuries. How can I let them know politely that I think it is their responsibility to deal with the injured prey?

Anne, I'm curious - the cat seems to be doing what comes naturally to it. But the neighbour's behaviour seems a bit unusual - I wouldn't dream of bringing things my cat had caught to a neighbour to look after. Are you a vet / RSPCA employee or something that would explain why they are doing this?
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: johnw on June 20, 2021, 01:55:55 PM
Also suggest a loud bell on the cat's collar?

Ashley - I suggest cathedral grade.

johnw ;)
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: ashley on June 20, 2021, 04:18:27 PM
You mean something the size of Big Ben?  ;D
Ashley - I suggest cathedral grade.

True enough.  I've also heard (apocryphal?) that cats learn to stalk so smoothly that a bell won't give them away.
David's solution might be more effective ;)
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: fredg on June 27, 2021, 02:43:25 PM
Ashley - I suggest cathedral grade.

johnw ;)

Does that also include the involvement of the local pond?

Personally I'd borrow an eagle 😇
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: Robert on June 27, 2021, 04:44:52 PM
Our neighbour (who we would like to keep on friendly terms with) keeps bringing us pathetic bits of wildlife that have been mauled by their cat, for us to 'look after'.
This week, my first ever sighting of a baby wren was of it in the last hour of its life as it died from shock and internal injuries. How can I let them know politely that I think it is their responsibility to deal with the injured prey?

My wife Jasmin suggests giving them the numbers of local wildlife rescue and rehabilitation groups, and avian veterinarians.  Cats and dogs are predators.  Their saliva and talons or nails carry bacteria that are extremely toxic to birds.  Even when there does not appear to be a scratch, the bacteria enter the bird’s system, killing it rapidly.  However, if the bird receives immediate medical attention, there is the possibility of survival and return to the wild.
 
If you do not wish to remain on courteous terms with the neighbors, you could act like my wife:  Jasmin is a holy terror and banshee terrifying all cats anywhere around our area.  If she sees a cat, she goes after it.  She is the same with our neighbors and their dog:  she not only complains to the authorities, but she does yell at them to deal with their dog.  Her language is not subtle either.  She has not donned a broadsword and burnie.  Yet.
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 28, 2021, 08:33:29 AM
Anne, I'm curious - the cat seems to be doing what comes naturally to it. But the neighbour's behaviour seems a bit unusual - I wouldn't dream of bringing things my cat had caught to a neighbour to look after. Are you a vet / RSPCA employee or something that would explain why they are doing this?
Hi Tristan, we are ecologists and the go-to people for wildlife info in general around here.
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 28, 2021, 08:34:21 AM
Does that also include the involvement of the local pond?

Personally I'd borrow an eagle 😇

Good idea. Is there an app for that?
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 28, 2021, 08:36:14 AM
My wife Jasmin suggests giving them the numbers of local wildlife rescue and rehabilitation groups, and avian veterinarians.  Cats and dogs are predators.  Their saliva and talons or nails carry bacteria that are extremely toxic to birds.  Even when there does not appear to be a scratch, the bacteria enter the bird’s system, killing it rapidly.  However, if the bird receives immediate medical attention, there is the possibility of survival and return to the wild.
 
If you do not wish to remain on courteous terms with the neighbors, you could act like my wife:  Jasmin is a holy terror and banshee terrifying all cats anywhere around our area.  If she sees a cat, she goes after it.  She is the same with our neighbors and their dog:  she not only complains to the authorities, but she does yell at them to deal with their dog.  Her language is not subtle either.  She has not donned a broadsword and burnie.  Yet.
I also chase the cats, but even the elderly ones are faster than me. My gravel paths are diminishing as I like to lob a handful in their direction. The stones falling all around them cause a very satisfying, but non-lethal, panic.
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: ian mcdonald on June 28, 2021, 10:54:08 AM
Try a cat-apult?
Title: Re: Cat predation
Post by: annew on June 29, 2021, 08:48:36 PM
Try a cat-apult?
;D ;D ;D
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