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General Subjects => Travel / Places to Visit => Topic started by: shelagh on June 02, 2008, 03:07:51 PM
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This time last week 'the gang' John and Clare Dower, Brian and I were headed down a very rainy motorway on our way from Gothenberg to Copenhagen. We had been in Gothenburg for 3 nights and had visited Gothenburg Botanic and Peter Korn's Tradgarden. We then had 2 nights in Copenhagen and visted it's Botanic Garden and some of their wonderful parks, plus ofcourse the Little Mermaid.
I thought you might like to see some of the little and large gems we found on our travels. First up Gothenburg Botanic where Peter Korn had kindly arranged for us to 'go behind the scenes'. It was a gloriously sunny Saturday and the place was humming with bees and visitors.
Oh and if I don't say exactly what it is it's because there wasn't a label close to it.
Oxalis enneaphylla
Heucheras Geishas fan and Dark Star
Pulmonaria
Covered bed area
Lewisia rediviva
Dudleya cymosa ssp pumila
Allium
Allium
Lewisia rediviva
Allium orophyllum agalik
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Just one more batch for now.
Gentiana oliveri
Delphinium
Trillium albidum
Trillium erectum
Polemonium and Dodecatheon
Penstemon gbg
Rock garden Gothenburg
Anemone mutifida magellanica
Ledum
Viola dubeyana
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Excellent start, Shelagh.... I was wondering when the "Bash Street Kids" would get round to sharing their trip with us!! ;)
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Excellent Shelagh, keep 'em coming please
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Brings back happy memories of a trip to GBG.
How did you get to Copenhagen, and was it expensive?
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Interesting trip, Shelagh.
Good to see the Allium orophyllum Agalik in a garden. Looks nice in the rockery, I think.
Saw it today showed in Weekly Lisse Flowershow.
(Pictures following there)
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I see a lecture (or two) in the making Mrs S.!!! :D
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Thanks Shelagh. More places to visit when I reach retirement heaven. I might even make it up to listen to those lectures Cliff's going to have you do ;D
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Art
The train cost from 148 swedish crowns und up wards. It is around 13 £ direct in coach on the one that stops in a lot of places.
see link
http://www.sj.se/purchase/booksearchtravel/findTravels.form
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim
Thanks for info
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Thanks for these pictures Shelagh, especially the Viola dubyana as I'm sure this is what I have as V. dubyana and various Forumists tell me it isn't, but if Gothenburg has it as V. dubyana..... who am I to argue?
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Something funny. One of the two won't remove and the picture didn't appear. Trying again to upload MY V. dubyana.
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The air fare from Manchester to Copenhagen wasn't too bad because John had some airmiles to use up, however Sweden and Denmark generally we thought quite expensive especially Gin and Tonics.
Anyway more GBG.
Veronica gentianoides minor
Linum uninerva
Iris lutescens
Daphne cneorum 'Moravia form'
Wulfenia carinthiaca
Allyssum repens
Scorzonera purpurea
Iris reichenbachiana
Iris attica
Woodsia polystichoides
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The last picture in this batch is one John regularly puts on the show bench and I can't for the life of me remember it's name. ???
Cystopteris fragilis
Handkerchief tree
Paris japonica
049 Epimedium dolichostemon
Can't remember.... OH, yes, it is Pteridopyhllum racemosum
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Is the last one Pteridophyllum racemosum?
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Spot on Hjalmar!
Not many Ranunculus yet Mrs S.? ;)
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Thanks, now I remember it ::)
Viola albanica
Epimedium dolichostemon
Epimedium brevicornu
Schizocodon intercedens
Primula cockburniana
Rock garden
Alpine house
Alpine house
Polemonium viscosum
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Last batch for now, breakfast is calling.
Oh and I don't know what you use your frames for but I've never seen any like these!
Erigeron tweedyi
Calceolaria darwinii
Caltha barthei
Dactylorrhiza
Aquilegia scopularum perplexus
Tufa wall
Cypripediums
Dactylorrhiza
Trilliums
Cypripedium
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My frames used to look like that before I stopped taking the hallucinogenics! ;)
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You've stopped taking them ::) ::) ::)
Allium hollandicum Purple Sensation
Saxifraga findling
Pelargonium oblongatum plus
Monsonia crassicaulis
Silene hookeri ingrammii
Physoplexus comosum
View alpine house
Stachys grandiflorum
Allium caesium
Allium oreophyllum
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Final shots of Gothenburg Botanic, including the rest of the gang.
Oregonum douglasia
Corydalis wilsonii and Verbascum dumulosum
Ononbrichus alacmonia
Lysimachia congestiflora
Lysimachia trientaloides
Aethionema orbiculatum
Petrophytum caespitosum
Pansies at gbg
gbg
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Great picture report Shelagh - it's a wonderful garden isn't it ?
I had the pleasure to visit it late April/early May, but computer problems and lack of time prevented me from posting anything :(
It's very interesting to see you show a totally different range of plants from the ones we saw in flower at that time.
Fortunately, my pix survived the pc crash and I hope to be able to post some in the forthcoming days.
Thanks again for showing :-*
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Lovely pics Shelagh, especially that Stachys grandifloru ....Mmmmmm :)
Eriogonum douglasii maybe?
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Super pix, Shelagh. My favourite was the Paris japonica - fantastic!
Shame about the price of Gin and tonics, but it obviously didn't stop Brian unwinding - I don't think I've ever seen him before without a jacket and tie ;D ;D
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Perth Group members are heading off there at the weekend. It looks as if there will still be plenty for us to see.
Forecast is hot so I am sure it will be a good weekend. Thanks for the preview Shelagh.
Susan
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As Clare & I recover from the G&Ts I finally find time to add a few pics of a super trip. (First time so be gentle with me!)
Gothenburg Botanic was excellent and the rock garden in Copenhagen Botanic was better, especially the labelling.
Peter Korns' garden was more like a small country! How on earth anyone can cope on that scale is bewildering, but the results are really spectacular.
Gothenburg Rock garden
Does my Dyonisia look big in this?
Copenhagen rock garden
Who are you looking at?
Sprekelia Gothenburg
Clare & Brian in Peter Korns garden
To the woods! Peter Korns garden
Some of last years seedlings ready to plant out
Waiting for G&T! Brian, Clare, John & Shelagh.
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Congratulations, Johnny: not everyone's first time is so successful 8) ;) ;) :o
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I knew you would get around to posting eventually Mr. D. ... excellent stuff!
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Thanks Maggi, and just to show it wasn't a fluke here are a few more from Gothenburg Botanic!
John
Allium caesium
Anthemis cretica ssp leucanthemoides
Lagopsis marubiastrum
Lamium armenum ssp armenum
Lewisia kelloggii. I like this a lot!
Lewisia rediviva 'Kittitas Rose'
Ornithogalum? Chincherinchee?
Saxifraga 'Findling' - what a spread.
Schizocodon soldenelloides var magnus
and finally - A Cool Seat.
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Great stuff Johnny I'd better get on quickly with some more of mine before you put me to shame with your quality.
As John says Peter Korn's garden is like a small country and he told us he is trying to buy 7 more hectares (whatever they are). He is carving out rock, using large peat blocks, crevice and scree beds. He has got rid of large numbers of trees and is using them to build his sales area. A sort of cotton grass seems to be the endemic weed but he is tackling it. By the way his legs are much browner now!
Introduction to Peter Korn's
Eriogonum umbellatum
Allium crenulatum
Penstemon
134 What's this??
Semiaquilegia ecalcarata
spectacular corydalis
Sedum query
View PK
Peter and the gang
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A few more from Peter Korn's if you can stand them?
Hope Cliff is still awake I have sneaked in a Ranunculaceae.
143 Query 143
144 Penstemon
145 Trollius pumilum
146 Meconopsis punicea
147 Meconopsis
149 Anemone trullifolia
150 Rhodiola stephanii
151 Crepis aurea
156 Dicentra peregrina X oregana
158 ready to go
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One final posting from Peter Korn's garden, including a lovely shrub/subshrub labelled Sieversia pentapetala flore plena, sorry it's not a very good picture. I've googled this and there is very little about S. pentapetala and nothing about this one in particular except perhaps something in Japanese. Where is Kimihiko when you need him.
Also whilst I was waiting for JohnnyD to pay for his suitcase load I spotted the place where ferns like to grow.
Celmisia bellidioides
Pleione limprichtii
Campanula alpina
186 This is where I like to grow
Heuchera abramsii
183 Euphorbia
Primula palmata
181 Cactus in scree
Sax. cochlearis
A crevice bed
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In any case, wonderful images and thanks for posting them
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FYI Shelagh, 7 hectares would be close to 18 acres. More than 14 anyway and less than 20 I think.
Fabulous places these, especially Peter's. Thanks a bunch and a warm welcome to Johnny too.
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Thank you for these....
By the way, Trillium erectum on first page of thread, is not...for sure....
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Hi and welcome to John!
Thanks to you both for all the super pix. Peter Korn's garden is indeed amazing.
John, Lagopsis marubiastrum in your reply #28 is not that plant. The label in front of the plant is the correct one, Campanula alpina.
Shelagh, in reference to your reply #31, re Sieversia pentapetala (did you forget to post the picture of it?) It used to be called Geum pentapetalum which may give you rather more hits in Google, including a reference to the flore pleno version in AGS bulletin vol 64 p73.
Where is Kimihiko when you need him.
As to the whereabouts of Kimihiko - who knows?? ??? But I'm surprised you didn't bump into him at Gothenburg as it's one of his favourite haunts... 8)
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I just want to thank you for taking the time to post these beautiful pictures. I try to visit the Gothenburg Botanical Garden every two weeks or so - still, there is so much to see that each time it's like coming to a whole new place. (As for Peter Korn's garden, it really is a new place each time I visit.) I hope there is more to come after the visit from Perth this weekend.
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Shelagh and John I have have thoroughly enjoyed this thread - what a fantastic trip. Perhaps you should have smuggled the G&T's in ;D
Many thanks for sharing
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Hi Diane, thanks for pointing out my error of omission. Typical of me head in the clouds feet in the .....
I do hope you will all feel free to suggest names for my queries, every little bit of help is welcome.
Now for Sieversia pentapetala flore plena.
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OK we've left Gothenburg and now it's off to Copenhagen. We had never heard any views regarding the Botanic Garden there. The guidebook showed an enormous Palm House so we thought we'd give it a quick look and carry on sightseeing. We were so impressed we spent several hours there and went back the next day. But I get ahead of myself. The rock gardens are not as spectacular or dramatic as Gothenburg but the range of plants, accessibility and labelling were terrific. Hope you agree.
The first picture shows what was growing all along the motorway down the coast of Sweden, and the Tulip picture includes the invasive weed that the staff were weeding out down on their knees by hand.
Lupins on motorway
View Copenhagen
Salix glauca Copenhagen
Rhod yunnanensis Copenhagen
Tulip sprengeri Copenhagen
Rosa pimpinellifolia Copenhagen
Iris pseudocorus Copenhagen
Tamarisk parviflorum Copenhagen
Potentilla anserina ssp anserina Copenhagen
Rhodiola pachyclados Copenhagen
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Just one more batch for now.
211 Cornus canadensis Copenhagen
Rhododendron cinnabarinum Copenhagen
Penstemon procerus var procerus Copenhagen
Anthericum liliago Copenhagen
Arum sp. Copenhagen
Tulip Copenhagen
Anthyllis montana ssp jaquinii Copenhagen
Minuartia recurva Copenhagen
Globularia vulgaris Copenhagen
Iris douglasiana Copenhagen
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Shelagh, chatting with Jean Wyllie today, we reckoned that your Schizocoden intercedens ( as image 052 )in Post 16 on page two of this thread is in fact a Shortia soldanelloides..... Schizocodon intercedens being white.
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Perhaps you should have smuggled the G&T's in ;D
Did you not get some duty free? One should ALWAYS be prepared when travelling to another country.
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Shelagh and John I have enjoyed your excellent pictures very much.
So many interesting plants! Must have been a supertrip!
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Lesley We in Europe now need to see Magnar in
Noeway EDIT NORWAY to get some duty free. G&T in Norway are VEEEEEERRRRYYYY expensive.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Shelagh, chatting with Jean Wyllie today, we reckoned that your Schizocoden intercedens ( as image 052 )in Post 16 on page two of this thread is in fact a Shortia soldanelloides..... Schizocodon intercedens being white.
Maggi: Actually Shortia soldanelloides as opposed to S. soldanelloides v. intercedens to be a nit-picker. Peter Barnes says "10a Leaves 3.5 to 7 cm, ovate, with 5 to 10 prominent triangular acute, teeth on each margin; flowers usually white---7e. S. soldanelloides var. intercedens". Usually white but when not, what? Pink, why not say so? Probably all throughly mixed up in cultivation anyway.
johnw
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the Tulip picture includes the invasive weed that the staff were weeding out
And they'll be doing it forever as it looks like Equisetum, the dreaded Horse-tail!
Thanks for a great look at these gardens.
Lesley, we'll have plenty of G&T for your visit so you can spend your DF on the SW!
cheers
fermi
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Yes Fermi it certainly is Equisetum and although I love ferns I could never get attched to these pests.
Anyway if you are all game, and thanks for all the nice comments, here we go with some more Copenhagen Botanic. Including a nice little shrub I didn't know Atraphaxis causcasica, and a magnificent Astragalus massiliensis that was fully 2 and a half feet across.
232 Stachys lavendulifolia
234 Atrophaxis causasica
233 Atraphaxis causasica
236 Eriogonum umbellatum
237 Eriophyllum lanatum
238 Astragalus massiliensis
239 Aster alpinus albus
240 Iris x germanica
241View Clare and alpine beds
242 Armeria alliaceae
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I really need help with Query 246. This was just growing out of the side of a rock step, whether its a chance seedling or a weed I don't know. I was just so taken with it I dirtied my trousers to photograph it. Perhaps I'd better rephrase that knowing you forumists. I sat down regardless in my pale summer trousers, trouble is I still don't know what it is. Penstemon and Salvia come to mind but neither seem to quite fit the bill.
244 Globularia meridionalis
246 Unknown
247 Stachys chrysantha
249 Alpine bed
250 Alpine bed
254 Melittis melissophyllum ssp albidum
255 Incarvillea mairei ssp mairei
256 Incarvillea delavayi
258 Alpine bed
260 Scorzonera purpurea ssp rosea
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Could 246 be a Scutellaria of some sort? Thanks for posting these great pics!
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Mmm..... 246... Scutellaria or Salvia? Looks familiar, whatever..... someone will know!
PS... just as well you made that clarification of your trouser situation, Shelagh, especially at our age :-[ ;)
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Found it: S. altissima (http://www.raybrowns.co.uk/perennial-flower-seeds/schizostylis-to-symphytum/SCUTELLARIA-ALTISSIMA-(Lamiaceae)-HP-12-in.html).
Scutellaria altissima .....Chiltern and Plant World both have seeds :)
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Thank you Shelagh, after a tough week the trouser thing has made my day ;D
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Thanks for the identification Arisaema, that has certainly made my day.
I couldn't resist the Anchusa it looked like a mound of worms, stems going all ways. The last picture in this section is a view of the herbaceous bed in the park that leads to the Rosenborg Palace fully 30 yards long. Can't remember seeing one like this in any of our public parks for many a year.
261 Genista lydia
262 Dryas octapetala
269 Hylomecon japonica
272 Peony
274 Phlomis oreophylla
275 Lychnis viscosa
277 Anchusa ungulata
278 Cynoglossum nervosa
312 Jamesia americana
327 Border Rosenborg
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Final post on this subject from me. We saw some wonderful trees in flower and within camera reach which makes a change so I thought I'd include them. They also put on a parade for us, wasn't that sweet.
On our final evening we went to the Tivoli Gardens, having a Danish grandmother I just had to go. Foolishly I decided I couldn't manage a handbag and a camera which was a pity because the planting and the gardens were superb. JohhnyD didn't take his handbag so perhaps he'll post some pics.
All in all a grand trip.
Military band Copenhagen
280 Wisteria
193 Horse chestnut Copenhagen botanic
194 Sweet Chestnut
195 Query? elm Copenhagen
298 Pawlonia Copenhagen
299 Fraxinus ornus
300 Fraxinus ornus
339 Sculpture Copenhagen
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Quite right Shelagh, I didn't feel my handbag went with my outfit!
Tivoli Gardens are quite a surprise, with great plantings of lupins and huge bowls of exotic stuff among other things.
The gardens laid out inside the overall scheme were super.
Add to that the entertainment and a super meal in the Herzegovina restaurant - complete with live music and a roast hog - and the whole evening was a great success.
As Shelagh said, it was a great trip.
Scilla peruviana
Cornus canadensis
Those great lupins.
Garden
Another garden
& another garden.
Taking an overview of the gardens.
Great entertainment x 2.
Clare takes a break.
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Oops! Lost a few pics there.
Must try harder!
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Nice in the botanic garden of Gothenburg isn't it? It is a privilege to have it so near.
About the picture of Allium oreophilum 'Agalik'. It is grown in a raised bed under glass roof. If you look carefully on that picture you see in the lower right corner a plant of Bukiniczia kabulica. A couple of plants of that has overwintered outside and are flowering this year.