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Title: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 01, 2008, 11:48:34 AM
Some of the plants flowering now in our garden:

Cypripedium reginae     
Erodium x hybridum           
Digitalis           
Tradescantia andersoniana Karminglut           
Polygonatum cirrhifolium                 
Rodgersia                       
Rosa x hillierii                 
Saxifraga canaliculata           
Persicaria [Fallopia] Compactum   
Dactylorhiza foliosa   
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 01, 2008, 03:24:38 PM
Wonderful pictures Luit - that cloud of Saxifraga blooms is utterly amazing !!!!.... the Dact. foliosa... well I know it's always been one of your specialties and it shows !!! Beautiful !
Thanks for showing !
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: hadacekf on June 01, 2008, 05:16:30 PM
Dracunculus vulgaris Schott is the most spectacular plant in my bulb bed. The thick false stem reaches a height of 150 cm. The spathe is about 45 cm long and the erect darker shiny maroon spadix in the centre is about 30 cm long.
The striking beauty of this plant can be a little shocking: like many Araceae the mature inflorescence spreads a rotten meaty odor. The nasty smell of rotting meat is designed to attract colorful shiny carrion flies beetles and for pollination.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 01, 2008, 08:35:54 PM
Fantastic plants, Franz....and I love the educational posts....thank you.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Joakim B on June 01, 2008, 10:01:56 PM
Luit :) You affect my dreams  :o What a orchid bothe the nice colours on the reginae and that  :o :o :o :o :o D. foliosa.
Is it one clone? How high is it? Great intense color  8) 8) :o :o

Franz amazing fly attractor You have. :)

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 02, 2008, 06:34:44 AM
Luit :) You affect my dreams  :o What a orchid bothe the nice colours on the reginae and that  :o :o :o :o :o D. foliosa.
Is it one clone? How high is it? Great intense color  8) 8) :o :o

Joakim, the Dactylorhiza I received more than 30 years ago as D. foliosa.
Later I have noticed it is sterile and presume it must be some hybrid.
I just am using this name as there is no other name.
D.foliosa seems very rare on Madeira and I've only seen some very bad pictures
of that.
This plant reaches about 60 cm. at his best in full sun in my sandy soil.
I'll try to make another pic soon and show it here.

Now here some more plants of the garden:

Achillea Schwellenburg             
Phlox carolina Bill Baker   
Geranium Philipe Vapelle       
Lilium bulbiferum             
Geranium Sirak               
Paeonia lact. Wladislawa   
Salvia nemorosa Caradonna 
Salvia nemorosa Viola Klose   
Kniphofia caulescens 1         
Kniphofia caulescens 2           
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 02, 2008, 11:02:37 AM
Your garden is a picture - thank you for sharing it with us.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Joakim B on June 02, 2008, 02:30:41 PM
Thanks for the information Luit.
I would say that the plant was not wasting the 30 years but worked hard in increasing. :) Sounds like an impressive plant (and clone of whatever it is hyridized with).

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Joakim B on June 02, 2008, 03:05:18 PM
Luit after looking for D. foliosa I have found this link. Where it is described in the location. Most others are in England.
The book of Buttler talks about D.foliosa as having close relationship with maculata and possible conections with D. elata.

Here is the link to a Check site.
http://botany.cz/en/dactylorhiza-foliosa/
Buttler shows to pictures in his "Field guide to Orchids of Britain and Europe" one being Your color and the other the colour in the link. For the one with Your colour it has "possible garden hybrid?" written after.

Edited later
Just saw that KEW had the type collected in Algeria!
Here is that link
http://www.aluka.org/action/showMetadata?doi=10.5555%2FAL.AP.SPECIMEN.K000415420

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 02, 2008, 03:52:55 PM
Lovely selection Luit.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 03, 2008, 01:19:37 PM
Luit after looking for D. foliosa I have found this link. Where it is described in the location. Most others are in England.
The book of Buttler talks about D.foliosa as having close relationship with maculata and possible conections with D. elata.
Joakim

Thank you Joakim. After looking at the pictures I only can say that my plant is very different,
from those original Madeiran plants.

Quote
I would say that the plant was not wasting the 30 years but worked hard in increasing.  Sounds like an impressive plant (and clone of whatever it is hyridized with).

Joakim, actually I don't have only one plant.
I show you here a photo from one of the remainings of a small part of our nursery.
In the empty spaces I planted  a Nothofagus, some shrubs and various perennials.
Before you ask why I have so many plants I can tell you, I was building op stock without selling plants.
When I was asked by traders if I wanted to sell about 6 years ago, I agreed.
But my price (appr. 30 % of consumer's price, what I believed being reasonable) was very much to high! :o :o
And I know that there are some of the traders are often lurking at these SRGC pages... ;)
The good thing about this all is that we can, every year when flowering enjoy the view out of our
window when sitting in the room. So I'm not moaning at all!  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 03, 2008, 01:30:20 PM
Luit....oh my... :o :o :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Joakim B on June 03, 2008, 01:58:01 PM
Luit very impressive

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 03, 2008, 08:07:52 PM
Here is Lilium pumilum (syn. L. tenuifolium) from the greenhouse. I chose to grow it under glass as it has a very slender stem and my garden is very windy. Glad I did because it fills the greenhouse with it's scent.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 03, 2008, 09:44:38 PM
Lovely lily. I planted out last year's seedlings in the garden today. Hopefully in a year or two I will have flowers  :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 05, 2008, 08:55:23 AM
Some more plants in our garden.
First a now mostly neglected Geranium, probably caused by the many hybrids.
Then a hybrid originated in G.B. , one from Germany and one, a very  rich
 flowering chance seedling from my own garden.
Also a small limetree which should reach 1 m. in 10 - 15 years

Geranium cinereum Splendens     
Geranium cinereum Carol                 
Geranium cinereum Signal     
Geranium cinereum new           
Geranium x lindavicum Appleblossom       
Geranium Patricia             
Hemerocallis lilio-asphodelus   
Hemerocallis Daily Bread       
Tilia cordata Monto             
Leontopodium alpinum Stella Bavaria
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 05, 2008, 07:34:10 PM
The saga of weirdly coloured (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=585.0) Nomocharis continues, with a yellow N. aperta opening its first flower today. Is this kind of variation common in the wild? Both bulbs came from the same Chinese import, presumably hailing from NW Yunnan (or possibly N Burma).

Also below:

Cyp flavum
Geranium erianthum
Podophyllum aurantiocaule ssp. furfuraceum
A bad pic of Polygonatum cirrhifolium

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 05, 2008, 10:50:34 PM
Here is my Crinodendron hookerianum jammed behind the shed and the greenhouse, flowering for the second time in 9 months.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 05, 2008, 11:23:57 PM
Arisaema - Good grief what a magnificent aperta! Splendid, astounding............never heard of such a thing.  I hope you have your pollinating brush at hand.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 05, 2008, 11:27:20 PM
Here is my Crinodendron hookerianum jammed behind the shed and the greenhouse, flowering for the second time in 9 months.

Anthony - Wonderful.  Is it in the ground?  Oh to be able to grow that here.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 06, 2008, 01:25:00 AM
Allium obliquum has a nice architectural presence in the garden, and even though the acid-yellow flowers are smallish, they are abundant. And it doesn't mind my heavy clay and summer moisture.

Molopospermum peloponnesiacum grows in an open spot in the woodland garden-  this perennial Umbelliferae is another plant of considerable architectural value. It can grow to 150cm, with large elegant, finely divided foliage below the compound umbels of yellow-green flowers.

I know that Arisarum proboscideum can be a weed in many gardens, but here in the north we covet whatever Aroids are hardy enough for us, especially when they are perfectly well behaved and cuter than cute...

Arisaema dracontium (Green Dragon) native to eastern USA, can reach huge proportions. It is at its northern limits here, so only gets about 90cm at most.




Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 06, 2008, 10:45:48 AM
Lovely pictures - I'm with John on the Crinodendron, if only it would have been a zone or two hardier! The aroid is also stunning en masse, but isn't it a Pinellia?

johnw: The bumblebees beat me to it, will try to collect some seeds if you want any later.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 06, 2008, 12:16:16 PM
Arisaema - I truly meant for you to grow more of those aperta but I certainly would like to try a few!

I will cross my L. lophophorums and oxypetalums on the weekend  and perhaps I can send some seed in return.

With thanks

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 06, 2008, 01:07:23 PM
Found in my garden this week.
Maybe other influences of smoked salmon fumes?
Someone already seen this Trillium?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 06, 2008, 01:12:40 PM
Arisaema,

It is Arisarum for sure. It's just that I had to lie on my belly to photgraph the little guys, so they look larger than the tiny elves that they are.

The Pinella have just broken ground, but the Arisarum is way past it's prime- it's been going strong for weeks.

Here is a close up.
Title: Re: Narcissus June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 06, 2008, 01:53:25 PM
Kristl, this is what I call Arisarum proboscideum.....a pic from the old Forum by Lawrence Moon and a link to a drawing by Anne Wright..... the hood is more closed, the foliage short and arrow shaped... your plant speaks to me of Arisaema  rather ??

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http://www.dryad-home.co.uk/images/fullimages/Cards/mouse.jpg
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 06, 2008, 03:17:27 PM
That's the one I'm familiar with as well, the flowers are mostly hidden under the foliage, so it isn't as showy. Your plant is probably either Pinellia tripartita and P. ternata, someone else will probably know how to tell them apart.

Blue Bellied Frog: That's an interesting Trillium, which species is it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 06, 2008, 04:17:17 PM
Arisaema, I saw this Trillium for the first time this morning. Maybe a variant of T. undulatum?
I don't know.

Bernard
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 06, 2008, 04:23:42 PM
Thank you so much everyone....you are such a fantasic resource!!!

It's amazing how I have been (confidently) growing this as Mouse's Tails all these years--never even thought to question it until today.

Now I know it is Pinellia ternata---which rather than being the Pinellia from hell here---has only spread into about a 2 foot round section in 20 years. Still a great plant for the north.

The other Pinellias are just now pushing up their spathes...

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 06, 2008, 04:30:52 PM
Bernard,
I have been commenting to many people here how I have never seen a year like this in the garden and in the wild where every second plant I see is virused....the day I collected Claytonia seed I was in a stretch of woods where members of almost every genus and species had virused foliage (woody to herbaceous)...all I can think of is all the wet we have had this year...

Also, I am not sure if I am seeing your Trillium properly, but what exactly are you referring to?
What is unusual about it that I am not seeing?

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 06, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Kristl,
The special I found is that the flower is very small, light pink and striped.
Maybe a little T. undulatun suffering of drought?
We had a lot of snow, but only 3 to 5 good rainy days since melting down.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: hadacekf on June 06, 2008, 07:55:54 PM
My bulb meadow in summer!

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 06, 2008, 10:47:47 PM
I planned several times this week to send some pictures, but had to give up
because of to slow Forum.
Now I try again with some plants this week in our garden.
The Sisymbrium is a beautiful huge plant of app. 2 m. and I learned to
cut it down after flowering, or the whole place would be only one species.


Geranium ibericum ssp. jubatum Vital   
Geranium ibericum ssp. jubatum
Disporum pernyi                 
Helianthemum         
Paeonia Krinkled White           
Phlomis + Lysimachia               
Tanacetum corymbosum Blütentisch             
Tanacetum corymbosum Zauberstern               
Stipa gigantea         
Sisymbrium luteum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 07, 2008, 02:52:56 AM
Luit...I too love the Sisymbrium, and its GLORIOUS FRAGRANCE---but strangely it has hardly self-sown here over the decade it has been in the garden--and I have large, large patches of it for seed production (rarely ever collect all the seed).

It's early Penstemon time here. I've given up on the anxiety producing, choice and difficult westeners--if I grow them once and they are happy here, so be it. And there are many that don't mind my difficult summers. I grow most of them either in the sand beds or in scree. The eastern species grow anywhere they want.





Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 07, 2008, 09:07:16 AM
Nice Penstemon Kristl. This P. eatonii must be a beauty when flowering.
What a colour.
A pity that Penstemon seemingly don't like our soil.
Most die after some years and seedlings come up, but die too.

Some more plants in our garden.
The Quercus I saw as a15 years old plant in a garden, not higher than 1 m.
My plant is now app. 50 cm.
The Tradescantia Snowbank is a good low form like Bilberry Ice.
The best thing to keep them free from seedlings is cut them off after flowering.

Erigeron Schwarzes Meer     
Erigeron Rotes Meer       
Geranium Johnson's  Blue     
Geranium lambertii Coombland White     
Quercus palustris Green Dwarf     
Salvia nemorosa Blauhügel             
Salvia nemorosa Ostfriesland     
Tradescantia Bilberry Ice             
Tradescantia Snowbank                   
Iris forrestii       
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 07, 2008, 07:18:19 PM
Lovely pictures, the blue Penstemon species are stunning, ditto for Iris forrestii!

Luit: Do you grow 'Coombland White' in pure sand? It didn't survive the winter here, but I'm not sure if it was a drainage or a hardiness issue, or maybe both.

Below:

Stellera chamaejasme - Is this one possible to pollinate, or will I just have to hope for a hungry moth?
Nomocharis farreri ex Pianma
Dodecatheon dentatum
Nomocharis saluenensis in bud
Iris tenax (or hybrid?)

...and a couple more pics of the three yellow Nomocharis aperta, the spotted one is quite nice.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 07, 2008, 07:34:15 PM
Lovely pictures Kristl, Luit and arisaema and all three of you are responsible for further extending my 'Wants List' ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 07, 2008, 08:06:32 PM
Arisaema

Where do you garden?  I would love to grow many of the plants you have shown, especially the yellow nomocharis, but I think I am in an area that is too hot for them.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 07, 2008, 08:30:17 PM
Arisaema,

you have very lovely plants in your garden. I like the dodecatheon dentatum especially. I've tried growing it from seed a couple times but it never came up  :'(
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 07, 2008, 10:44:51 PM
Arisaema, I'm just keeping Geranium Coombland White with changing success.
I would not recommend it as very hardy, because being a hybrid with G. traversii blood.
Every plant here is growing in pure sand, changing soil is not possible or necessary.

For David some more for your wants list?:

Acantholimon glumaceum       
Anemone rivularis       
Dianthus plumarius Pink Jewel     
Geranium x magnificum  Rosemoor             
Santolina serratifolia             
Sempervivum                 
Veronica austriaca Knallblau             
Dianthus plumarius Munot 1             
Dianthus plumarius Munot
Chloranthes japonica
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: gmoen on June 08, 2008, 12:43:41 AM
Arisaema:

I get seeds on my Stellera chamaejasme but only after I got more than one plant. I grow them close together, but maybe you do as well?
 

Here are some pics from my garden to day (taken in full sun)

1 Stellera chamaejasme
2 Iris cycloglossa
3 Asperula gussonii - just coming into flower
4 Meconopsis delavayi
5 Senecio integrifolius - a very nice form that I found in the Carpathians (Romania)

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 08, 2008, 12:26:02 PM
Wonderful, wonderful pictures everyone.  After a month of not visiting I have no hope of catching up on everything.  So glad I started with this thread as the first viewing...... stunning pics.  Never heard of Stellera before, but WOW, and that Dodecatheon is so beautiful!

Thanks all.

Oh yeah.... Luit..... those Dactylorrhiza are breathtaking.  I think I might have to take a copy of that pic out and show my 3 little noses of D. fuchsii what they SHOULD be trying to grow like.  Not in my climate unfortunately!  ::)  What a wonderful view!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 08, 2008, 01:17:12 PM
Here are some of the plants that are flowering in my garden this week (actually not a lot, because it has been raining for almost a full week now)

1 Dianthus deltoides 'Albiflorus'
2 Dianthus deltoides 'Brilliant'
3 unknown Dianthus
4 & 5 Hippeastrum 'Sonatini' (according to the seller completely hardy; we'll see)
6 Passiflora caerulea
7 Our neighbours sheep is curious (not really a flower)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 08, 2008, 05:25:46 PM
Art: I live in the southernmost part of Norway, 20 miles north of Mandal. Summer temps rarely climb above 30C/86F here, usually staying in the mid to high twenties, but I don't think Nomocharis would mind a little more heat as long as you keep them moist and shaded.

Wim: Please remind me in August, I have to move it, so may be able to trade you a piece. Best of luck with overwintering the Hippeastrum!

Luit: I'd trade my clay for your sand any day, we just had the wettest winter on record. You certainly posted one on my "wants list", that fantastic clump of Chloranthus! I have a similar looking one, but it has yet to sprout and doesn't flower here until late August/early September.

Geir: Thanks, that explains the lack of seeds, I only have that one plant. Stunning plants, that Juno in particular!

Below some awfully garish Incarvillea zhongdianensis - the rock gardener's Begonia x tuberhybrida - and an only slighly less garish I. younghusbandii. Does anyone know how to separate I. zhongdianensis from I. mairei and I. delavayi? The former was published after the FoC treatment, so it didn't make the key.

Iris hookeri
Nomocharis sp. (meleagrina or pardanthina)
Nomocharis saluenensis
Paeonia delavayi (hybrid?)
Primula 'Green Lace' 'Francisca'
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: ichristie on June 08, 2008, 06:16:46 PM
I thought it was about time I added a few pictures to the wonderful selection from every one thanks very much for such super pictures, I have Nomocharis Saluenensis, Daphne kosanini Meconopsis nepalensis and Paris polyphylla var Stenophylla, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 08, 2008, 08:54:44 PM
Some plants from the garden (Physoplexis comosa, Aster alpina - a tiny form from Italy, ?,  2 Arisaema
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 08, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
Part of my wisteria.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 08, 2008, 11:10:31 PM
We've gone from a lovely cool, constantly wet spring to heat (40C with humidex today) making it almost unbearable to be outdoors, so I only managed to look at a small section of the garden.

I love almost all the Mertensia, although few want to live in my garden. Merensia sibirica (pterocarpa) sticks around and blooms for a long stretch.

I am too hot to try to remember the name of this small, pink Polygonatum.

Papaver anomalum album is loved because it is soundly perennial and has a very long bloom period.

I have a huge drift of Nectaroscordum siculum that is wonderfully architectural en masse. It blooms before N. tripedale.

Papaver bracteatum is the deepest-coloured, true red I have in the garden---blooms 20cm across on a tall, sturdy plant. It flowers before any of my oriental poppies start.

I believe this is Lilium monadelphum????



Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 09, 2008, 09:29:54 PM
Kristl: The Genus Lilium (http://www.the-genus-lilium.com/subsection3c.htm) has a neat comparison table of L. monadelphum and and it's relatives.

Lilium lophophorum below
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 10, 2008, 12:04:26 AM
Kristl: The Genus Lilium (http://www.the-genus-lilium.com/subsection3c.htm) has a neat comparison table of L. monadelphum and and it's relatives.

Lilium lophophorum below

You put my little weaklings to shame.  Such vigour!

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 10, 2008, 11:23:37 AM
Thank everybody for wonderful pics. Something from my garden this week: Nectaroscordum tripedale, Dodecateon?, Allium shelcovnicivii, Paeonia mlokosevichii, Ranunculus graminifolius, Dodecateon?, Trollius pumilus, Allium umbilicatum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 10, 2008, 12:34:51 PM
Hans, Kristl, Ian, Arisaema, Wim and OlegKon et al,

Thanks for the wonderful pictures!!  Some absolute beauties amongst them.  What a joy to view. :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on June 10, 2008, 01:59:27 PM
Not much to show. To hot and to dry. We have not had a drop of rain for 6 weeks. The flowers fade almost instantly. I have one picture of an Allium though that obviously like it hot - Allium chloranthum! I am normally not a great lover of green flowers but this one is quite OK.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 10, 2008, 02:43:06 PM
I bought some Eremurus from Pottertons last year, and they are now coming into bloom.

I understand they are completely hardy and will require no special winter treatment.

NB The plants are in my garden - please ignore the ref to Iran 2008 under the photo

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 10, 2008, 02:45:39 PM
Here is an alpine flowering for the first time in my garden.

Known as Rock Purslane, it is Calandrinia umbellata amarantha.

NB The plants are in my garden - please ignore the ref to Iran 2008 under the photo
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 10, 2008, 03:54:25 PM
Quote
Known as Rock Purslane, it is Calandrinia umbellata amarantha.

Arthur, is this hardy with you, or are seedlings coming up every year?
We used to grow it as a biennial.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 10, 2008, 04:29:55 PM
Luit

I believe I planted it last year, so it has survived a winter - not too severe.  Will keep an eye on this coming winter.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 10, 2008, 07:26:22 PM
Here is a plant which is at least 30 years on a raised bed.
I've seldom seen it in culture, which is a pity, I think.

Genista villarsii         
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 10, 2008, 07:33:11 PM
This trough with one variety of Sempervivum (Silberkarneol) is also at least
30 years standing next to the house wall.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 10, 2008, 07:37:46 PM
and here some more flowers in the garden:

Cypripedium Ulla Silkens           
Dianthus plumarius Evening Star         
Geranium Brookside         
Helichrysum ex Sani Pass           
Hypericum olympicum Sulphureum   
Dianthus plumarius India Star   
Saxifraga           
Verbascum x Letitia     
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 10, 2008, 07:56:38 PM
Luit, you grow some cracking plants and you really do grow them to perfection.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Viola on June 11, 2008, 07:43:18 AM
Pics from the Austrian Mountens, very scenery.

Karl

Bischofsmütze, 10.06.08
 Bischofsmütze, 10.06.08
 Bischofsmütze, 10.06.08
 Silene acaulis, 10.06.08
 Soldanella alpina, 10.06.08
 Rhodothamnus chamaecistus

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Viola on June 11, 2008, 07:51:01 AM
More pics.
Trollius europaeus
 Bischofsmütze
 Androsace villosa
 Silene acaulis
 Bischofsmütze
 Dryas octopetala
 Gentiana clusii,
 Primula clusiana
 Primula auricula
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Thomas Huber on June 11, 2008, 08:18:26 AM
Great trip - great photos - thanks Karl!!!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 11, 2008, 09:58:49 AM
Karl,

Great pics.  Love that winding mountain stream, and the Trolius shot is fantastic.  Must find out one of these years whether I can grow them here, and if so track some down.  Probably too hot in summer for them here though.  I thoroughly enjoyed all your pics though, and thank you so much for posting them.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 11, 2008, 10:19:14 AM
I can almost smell the clean fresh air.  Great photographs - many thanks
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 11, 2008, 07:46:16 PM
One from the garden today, Verbascum x letitia and Campanula portenschlagiana fighting each other for space.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 11, 2008, 09:48:49 PM
I'm afraid the Campanula will win this fight David.
You'll have to make a choise... ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 12, 2008, 01:34:23 AM
Ian, thank you for your wonderful post---and especially that perfectly grown Daphne kosaninii (domini) -and now I am confident I *do* have the right plant...

And Karl, beautiful mountain pictures!!! Thank you.

My offering today is 3 of my favorite North American native woody species. Although I am much, much further north of their native range, they do very well here.

Chionanthus virginicus, Calycanthus floridus, the spectacular and very fragrant Cladrastis lutea...

And lastly, one non-native, the beautiful Magnolia sieboldii.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 12, 2008, 03:21:47 AM
Kristl,

Is that a white form of Cladrastis lutea, or is it "lutea" for some other reason?  The Chionanthus virginicus looks wonderfully delicate in flower, and familiar for some reason although the name doesn't ring any bells.  The Magnolia is just glorious!

Thanks for sharing the pics.  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 12, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
Paul,

The gale-force winds yesterday made it rather difficult to photograph these plants well...

Chionanthus (Fringe Tree) you may know better in it's Asian counterpart, Chionanthus retusus---although I seem to recall there are at least two Australian species in the genus. 

The Cladrastis is also known as C. kentukea. The "lutea" refers to its yellow heartwood. It's common name is Yellowwood. It's a fantastic tree, gloriously fragrant, and the wisteria-line flower racemes are so heavy this year that the lighter, and lower branches are literally almost reaching the ground.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 12, 2008, 03:52:29 PM
Flowering now in my garden (despite the cold and the rain):

1. the first Arisaema candidissimum
2. Deinanthe caerulea (bought it in the beginning of the year as Deinanthe bifida  :( ) Sorry for the not so
    clear shot but there was another shower starting.
3. the only fuchsia I really like because it isn't a too showy type and it doesn't grow very fast: Fuchsia                               
    'Eleanor Leytham'
4. Hippeastrum 'sonatini' (now fully in bloom)
5. Tanacetum parthenium not liking the wet
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 12, 2008, 08:42:37 PM
Lovely pictures everyone!

Not much in flower here at the moment, at least not within the scope of this forum. Below:

Aconitum septentrionale
Iris chrysographes ex 'Rubella'
Saxifraga rotundifolia
Smilacina atropurpurea
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 12, 2008, 09:26:58 PM
I mentioned Salix vestita awhile back. Here it is in the Alpine House at Oxen Pond Botanic Garden, St. John's, Newfoundland yesterday.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 12, 2008, 09:31:07 PM
Fair Maids of France at Oxen Pond Botanic gardens yesterday. Also Iberis Little (!) Gem.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anastasia on June 12, 2008, 09:37:23 PM
Glance and in my garden: :D

1. Last lily of the valley f. rosea (convallaria)
2. Beauty Meehania
3. Ornithogalum nutans
4-5. Trollius
6. Paeonia tenuifolia
7. Anemone fasciculata = A. narcissiflora
8. The first flowers were dismissed Paeonia delavayi
9. Сamassia leichtlinii
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 12, 2008, 09:43:17 PM
A few shots of Oxen Pond B. G. yesterday.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on June 12, 2008, 10:03:16 PM
Thanks for these John, the Glaucidium is superb.

A quick browse round my garden this evening
Roscoea cautleyoides is unusually still standing up well
Rhododendron camschaticum a good colour form, from Glendoick
Gaultheria Pink Pixie
Dactylorhiza foliosa (maybe the real thing??) 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on June 12, 2008, 10:08:26 PM
The current star of the show is the culmination of many years waiting and it finally arrived with a surprise -
Cardiocrinum cordatum with two flowering stems coming from the same stem at the base.  It seems like the stem divided and then twisted back together.  Has anyone come across a double-stem before?  The last picture attempts to show a close up of the stem arrangement.  I will try and get a better picture at the weekend in better light.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on June 12, 2008, 10:17:51 PM
And a few Arisaemas in the greenhouse. 
Arisaema ciliatum liubaense (Ian, I think yours in this week's Bulb log are ssp liubaense)
Arisaema candidissimum with white spathe
Arisaema saxatile with a long extension to the spadix
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 13, 2008, 06:56:25 AM
Arisaema,

Love that Iris chrysographes seedling.  Beautiful!!

John,

What is that wonderful pink and white plant(s)?  At first glance I thought Trillium, but the leaves are all wrong.  Don't know what it is but I LOVE it!!!!!

Diane,

Oh that Rhododendron.  What a stunner.  Wouldn't have realised it was a Rhodo without your name for it...... fascinating!!  Love that white candidissimum too!

Great pics everyone.  Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 13, 2008, 12:12:11 PM
John,What is that wonderful pink and white plant(s)?  At first glance I thought Trillium, but the leaves are all wrong.  Don't know what it is but I LOVE it!!!!!
Oh that Rhododendron.  What a stunner.  Wouldn't have realised it was a Rhodo without your name for it...... fascinating!!  Love that white candidissimum too!

Glaucidium palmatum... seedlings planted close together.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 13, 2008, 01:37:46 PM
So THAT is what Glaucidium palmatum looks like?  I know people rave about it but I don't think I had ever seen it.  Now I understand why everyone wants it.  Must add it to my "need"s list (the level above the "want"s list!  :) ;D  It is a stunner, but probably wouldn't do well for me here I guess?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 15, 2008, 08:34:53 AM
Some photos from this week:

Ranunculus montanus fl pl
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Ranunculus%20montanus%20fl%20pl%2008.jpg)

Iris bloudowii
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Iris%20bloudowii%2008.jpg)

Corydalis stenantha
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Corydalis%20stenantha%2008.jpg)

Castilleja ... may be rhexifolia,, sown as such.
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Castileja%20rhexifolia%2008.jpg)

Caltha sp.. received as palustris var.
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Caltha%20palustris%20var%2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Renate Brinkers on June 15, 2008, 10:37:44 AM
Magnar,

great pictures. Nice to see what will grow from the small Ranunculus montanus fl. pl. I got last week.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 15, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
Magnar,

Very nice.  Love that Iris, but that last Caltha is VERY special.  I am guessing it isn't something I'm likely to find here in Aus?  Does it have a name?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Renate Brinkers on June 15, 2008, 12:21:56 PM
Some plants flowering in my garden now:

Arisaema fargesii.
 Liriodendron tulipifera
 Sisyrinchium californicum
 Sisyrinchium striatum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: KentGardener on June 15, 2008, 02:07:08 PM
Hi All

a few things from my garden over the last couple of weeks.

___________________________________

John



Bletilla ochracea
 Arisaema flavum
 Arisaema tortuosum
Asplenium scolopendrium crispum nobile
 Asplenium scolopendrium ramomarginatum cristatum
 Asplenium scolopendrium sagittatum cristatum

 Bletilla Penway Imperial X ochracea
 Dactylorrhiza elata
 Roscoea humeana 'RosemoorPlum'
 Roscoea 'Purple King'
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 15, 2008, 02:14:17 PM
Renata, I love the Tulip Tree!

John, great to hear form you  :-* :-*
Your ferns are looking suspiciously green.... sure they're not plastic? ;)
Do you manage to keep the Bletillas going outdoors all year or do they get some winter protection? They look lovely!
At the RBG Edinburgh on Friday there were quite a few Roscoeas in flower... whrereas in Aberdeen they are just coming through the ground! Yours look very good, I must say......the similarity to orchid flowers is so attractive, isn't it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 15, 2008, 02:49:54 PM
Great to have you back amongst us John !
Wonderful Bletilla's !  Just as Maggi I'd love to know how you handle them outside !

Magnar,
Your Iris bloudowii is a beauty !
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: KentGardener on June 15, 2008, 03:25:14 PM
Hi Guys

the Bletilla's are outside in the ground all year.  I have grown B. striata for quite a few years and the clump just gets bigger and bigger.  Then a couple of years ago I was very lucky to be given some more Bletilla by Richard Evenden who produced the Bletilla 'Penway hybrids'.  Unfortunately some of them died (as I put them in the ground outside to See how hardy they were) - but 'ochracea', 'striata' and the 'Penway Imperial x ochracea' are all doing excellently.  I also have a striata alba that just about hangs in there and a couple of variegated striata that also just sit there not getting any bigger or smaller!

A Bletilla striata picture to cheer your afternoon.



_____________________________

John
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Hans A. on June 15, 2008, 03:44:53 PM
Beautiful photos everybody! :D
I also took some pictures this afternoon in my garden.
The Balearic Islands have a large number of endemic Limonium species which grow naturally on rocks or on sand near the sea – at the moment there are accepted about 40 different species and a lot of natural hybrids exist – this is a nice compact growing one.
Santolina occurs here with its own ssp. magonica – this is a larger flowered form which came up near the Cultivar “Lemon Queen”.
Origanum syriacum is grown from seed – said to be collected in Lebanon – I hope the name is right…
Rosmarinus officinalis is a widespread species in the local mountains – some years ago I made cuttings of special coloured forms when I found them – like this pink one.
Teucrium asiaticum is an endemic species, while Teucrium flavum is widespread, but a rare species here - both can be grown easy by seed.
Conanthera bifolia is a beautiful Bulb (flowers remember Solanum) from Chile which is grown from seed I collected in Central Chile (Talca area) some years ago – it is a relative of Tecophilaea.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 15, 2008, 04:04:21 PM
Natives under the rain.

Calla palustris
 Cornus canadensis
 Cornus stolonifera
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 15, 2008, 04:06:18 PM
Magnar,

Very nice.  Love that Iris, but that last Caltha is VERY special.  I am guessing it isn't something I'm likely to find here in Aus?  Does it have a name?

I got it from a friend. He had it from China under the name Caltha palustris var.
The Iris is from east Siberia,, the only bad about it is that each flower last not much more than a day.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 15, 2008, 04:16:39 PM
Natives (La suite)

 Habenaria dilatata
Moneses uniflora
 Sarracenia purpurea
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 15, 2008, 05:05:59 PM
Bernard

What is the other plant with Cornus canadensis?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 15, 2008, 05:55:26 PM
Arthur, it's Maïanthemum canadense.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 15, 2008, 06:32:28 PM
Some plants from the near mountains (Höllengebirge) and some from my garden. These Alpine plants are often seen in the Alps.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 15, 2008, 06:36:51 PM
And the last 2 pics from today
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 15, 2008, 07:02:10 PM
I love these alpine plants,, thanks a lot for posting the pics :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on June 15, 2008, 10:47:15 PM
Renate,

Adored your photograph of Arisaema fargesii. Do you have to grow it in a pot?



John,

Good to see your photographs. Great selection.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 15, 2008, 10:58:55 PM
 Hans, my favourite must be DSCF4562.JPG .....Rhododendron ferrugineum  8)....well. no, when I look closer, it is R. hirsutum, isn't it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 15, 2008, 11:01:23 PM

 Hans, my favourite must be DSCF4562.JPG .....Rhododendron ferrugineum  8)

Maggi, I rather believe it's Rh. hirsutum.
The underside of the leaves is not brown, as far as I can see...?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 15, 2008, 11:11:29 PM
Yes, Luit! I noticed that and just edited my post to say hirsutum at the very same time you were posting! I had not spotted all those hairs at first, either!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 15, 2008, 11:26:57 PM
Maggi, when I looked back, I thought I must have had a Senior moment, because I did not see
before what you edited later. ???
Forgive me, but to be sure I asked my other half to have a look at the picture.
She must know because she always want to pick some flowers of R ferrugineum, which grow in abundance in her "Heimat", to put at her mother's grave.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 16, 2008, 03:20:06 AM
Those Bletillas are stunning.  Never seen "filled in" flowers like that on Bletilla before, jsut the various striata.  They almost grow like a weed here, so would love to try more.

So many other wonderful things posted here too.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Giles on June 16, 2008, 04:44:42 AM
Castilleja coccinea on limestone alvar, Bruce Peninsula,Ontario.
Castilleja coccinea.....in someones front lawn!....makes a change from daisies, I guess!!!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Giles on June 16, 2008, 04:47:07 AM
Trillium cernuum.
Also Bruce Peninsula,Ontario
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 16, 2008, 05:21:19 AM
Giles,

Very nice on both counts.  Don't know the Castilleja at all, but looks good!!  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Giles on June 16, 2008, 05:50:56 AM
Paul,
The Castilleja's turn up on the showbench quite commonly over here.
That's why I was amused to see it as a lawn 'weed'
I forgot to put up this picture of Clintonia borealis, which I also saw very commonly in Ontario,
present in almost all moist woods.
Giles
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 16, 2008, 06:33:44 AM
Giles,

I haven't seen it here, but that doesn't mean it isn't over here.  The clintonia looks rather interesting as well.  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 16, 2008, 07:09:52 PM
A few Lewisias from the greenhouse today, L. sierrae, L. 'Little Plum' and one of my own seed grown L.cotyledon hybrids. A little out of focus on the close-up of L. sierrae!

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 16, 2008, 10:14:12 PM
Some pics of what was flowering yesterday

Clematis integrifolia
 Gladiolus communis
 Ixiolirion tataricum
 Muscari comosum
 Veratrum album
 Paradisea liliastrum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 16, 2008, 11:10:32 PM
Here is a cushion plant in our garden.

Azorella trifurcata         
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 16, 2008, 11:19:48 PM
That lovely carpet would save mowing! Here's my Ramonda nathalie.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 16, 2008, 11:22:22 PM
Some plants taken last week:

Rosa Abraham Darby     
Gazania linearis       (should be hardy outside?)   
Gypsophila repens Knuddel           
Rosa The Squire
Campanula garganica       
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 16, 2008, 11:40:22 PM
All North Americans, none native to my area.

Gillenia trifoliata.

Echinacea paradoxa is the first coneflower to bloom here. E. simulata will soon follow.

Amsonia hubrechtii has lovely foliage, coloring a beautiful yellow in autumn,  although I find the flowers are not as showy as in other species of the genus.

Penstemon strictus is a wow plant, especially en masse, tough and persistent here.

Marshallias are subtle plants with intricate flowers.

And I do love Baptisias. B. albescens has dramatic near-black stems and the flowers open from dark casings. The well known B. australis, and the tall B. alba var. macrophylla.



Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 17, 2008, 07:57:30 AM
Howdy All,

A great gathering of assorted people here today posting pics by the look of it.  Excellent!!  So nice to see, particularly at our quieter time of the year.David,

I just love the Lewisias..... the colour of the first and last are brilliant.  Well done on that seedling.  I'm still trying to work out why the second one is called "Little Plum" though, as it doesn't make sense colour-wise?

Anthony,

Love that Ramonda.  What a cutie!!  8)

Oleg,

Interesting to see the Ixiolirion.  I've come across the name before I think, but never realised how nice a flower it is.

And love the Veratrum, Clematis, Baptisias etc so thanks Oleg and Kristl.  Sorry if I've missed anyone, but I enjoyed all the pics.  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 17, 2008, 10:41:54 AM
A few shots of Oxen Pond B. G. yesterday.

johnw
Just to remind folks about some great pix from the Illingworths  and Todd Boland from Oxen Pond and other NF gardens, from the OLD Forum : see here:  http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/1078/27327.html

A further reminder:
The OLD FORUM is ARCHIVED and cannot be posted to, but it is fully searchable and there to read at will!
http://www.srgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 17, 2008, 05:31:18 PM
Can anybody identify these please.  The foxglove seeds around (fortunately), it is approx 75cm tall.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 17, 2008, 05:33:36 PM
I inherited this clematis and wondered if anyone could identify it.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 17, 2008, 05:56:03 PM
Can it be Vill de Lion?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on June 17, 2008, 06:52:13 PM
Oleg,

I am amazed to see plants in flower with you which have not yet flowered here with me in the mild climate of the south of Ireland. I would have presumed your climate would be much more harsh than ours and it is cerainly is startling to see clamatis integrifolia and veratrum album, among the others, so much more advanced than here.

Lovely selection of photographs,

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on June 17, 2008, 07:17:32 PM
Paddy, I have been watching the pictures from Hans in Germany all spring, and they are about three weeks ahead of us, strange as I thought we had a very  mild climate.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 17, 2008, 07:27:51 PM
Don't you think that where the climate is milder, there is no hurry for the plants to rush into growth, so they come along at a steady pace, whereas where the winters are colder the plants are very grateful to see theend of winter and rush into growth and flower to make the most of their season?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 17, 2008, 07:34:46 PM
Can anybody identify these please.  The foxglove seeds around (fortunately), it is approx 75cm tall.

Arthur, the first one might possibly be Salvia sclarea.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 17, 2008, 07:37:56 PM
Can it be Vill de Lion?

Having googled Ville de Lyon, it does look like my clematis.  However, Ville de Lyon appears lighter in colour - maybe poor photos
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 17, 2008, 07:51:50 PM
Isn't it just a heat issue? Cold winters/hot summers (continental) vs. mild winters/cool summers (maritime)?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 17, 2008, 08:59:10 PM
Art,
Luit beat me to it---I am fairly certain it is Salvia sclarea---could be the straight species or var. turkestanica.

I feel so certain because I love the plant at this preliminary emergence stage---and have in the past often photographed it to death at this point...interestingly, it is exactly at the same point here right now in Canada.

Kristl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 17, 2008, 09:14:49 PM
Arthur, the foxglove is a Digitalis lutea ...I reckon. Pretty variable in the amount of colour, always pretty and seeding about gently.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 17, 2008, 09:46:38 PM
May I have some help identifying the Alyssum, please. I tentatively think it is A. caespitosum....????
Unique in that it begins bloom much later than most of the spring species (as in just recently) and has an *extremely* long bloom period (almost all summer?). Tiny, grey foliage, as shown.

The only Centaurea relative I grow--Aethiopappus pulcherrimum --a beautiful, too well-behaved plant; no good seed ever, has not spread, and I cross my fingers each year that it will be back. I grow it in the sand bed.

My native Lonicera hirsuta I posted on the "My Bit Of Heaven" thread a while ago, when it first opened--for those of you not reading that thread, I thought to post it here, as it is having a superb year and just keeps blooming and blooming and....

Yes, there are some great Tradescantia (more to come later). This North American native species - T. ohioensis---is a fantastic plant--foliage is actually very grey- doesn't show in the picture---intense blooms where one can see them. It likes it hot and dry.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 17, 2008, 10:46:47 PM
Paddy, it certainly must be a result of the continental climate. We always lag behind in spring and then try to catch up with the rest of Europe having everything together with the last frit near a flowering Veratrum.
Cannot agree more with Maggi: Arthur's foxglove is D. lutea.
Sorry for misspelling the name of the clematis, Arthur. Still can't think of anything else similar to yours. Does the growth begin both from the ground and high on last year shoots? It's always the way with Ville de Lyon.
And this is what I bought as Allium darwasicum last year. A. karataviense, isn't it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 17, 2008, 11:57:52 PM
Oleg
Yes it does grow as you described.  Last year it was smothered with flowers - many hundreds.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 18, 2008, 01:09:18 AM
Foliage in the rain.
Never place Sanguisorba canadensis in a flower bed.
It is very very invasive


Alchemilla mollis
 Osmonda claytonia
 Osmonda regalis
 Sanguisorba canadensis
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 18, 2008, 01:17:39 AM
Today's flowers. (I have more but...)
I didn't cut this Aster! (An artiste ?)


Aster alpinus Dark Beauty
 Aster alpinus Dark Beauty
 Haberlea rhodopensis
 Veronica fruticans
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Katherine J on June 18, 2008, 09:24:59 AM
Kristl,
Your Lonicera hirsuta is so nice. Do aphids like it?
And the Tradescantia ohioensis is just fantastic. How tall is it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 18, 2008, 09:37:33 AM
Kristl, does this Tradescantia seed around like most hybrids do?
I love the combination of blue with the greyish foliage.

Quote
The only Centaurea relative I grow--Aethiopappus pulcherrimum --a beautiful, too well-behaved plant; no good seed ever, has not spread, and I cross my fingers each year that it will be back. I grow it in the sand bed.
I think Aetheopappus pulcherrimus is a rather old name , which is since long called Centaurea pulcherrima.
Is there much difference with Centarea hypoleuca John Coutts?
Here are the undersides of the leaves silvery.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Thomas Huber on June 18, 2008, 10:06:44 AM
Can anybody identify these please.  The foxglove seeds around (fortunately), it is approx 75cm tall.


Arthur the foxglove looks like a plant in my garden, that I received as Digitalis trojonae.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 18, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
Thomas, I think that Digitalis trojana has flowers closer together on the stem and they are fatter, more open at the mouth and with a little "tongue" on the lip....... :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 18, 2008, 03:47:28 PM
Thomas
Having googled Digitalis trojana (Helen of Troy Foxglove), it is not.  I think that is very beautiful, and has different coloured flowers.
I am very happy with mine and think it is lutea ssp australis
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 18, 2008, 06:50:46 PM
Some Geranium in our garden:

Geranium psilostemon                   
Geranium Jolly Bee               
Geranium Patricia         
Geranium dalmaticum Bressingham 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 18, 2008, 08:43:54 PM
Today's flowers. (I have more but...)
I didn't cut this Aster! (An artiste ?)


Aster alpinus Dark Beauty
 Aster alpinus Dark Beauty
 Haberlea rhodopensis
 Veronica fruticans

A very pretty selection Bernard.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 19, 2008, 12:23:56 AM
Kristl,
Your Lonicera hirsuta is so nice. Do aphids like it?
And the Tradescantia ohioensis is just fantastic. How tall is it?

Kathrine,
No aphid problems...some years it gets powdery mildew--something all Lonicera are susceptible to.

The Tradescantia is about 60cm and Luit, I have never had a single seedling in the garden.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 19, 2008, 12:34:04 AM
I think Aetheopappus pulcherrimus is a rather old name , which is since long called Centaurea pulcherrima. Is there much difference with Centarea hypoleuca John Coutts?
Here are the undersides of the leaves silvery.


Luit....I thought it was the other way around--thanks for the correction--guess I am showing my age---- ;)

I had to look up C. John Coutts---and can say aside from the flowers, it is not very similar--C. pulcherrima foliage is intensely silver all over and quite beautiful--and the plants are small--30-45cm at most. I'll photograph the foliage sometime.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 19, 2008, 04:48:11 PM
Kristl, I never grew C. pulcherrima. There was no demand in the trade.
Though it seems a very nice plant.


Some more flowers from our garden:

Oenothera fruticosa Fyrverkeri             
Potentilla thurberi     
Centaurea pulchra Major 1       
Centaurea pulchra Major 2               
Heliopsis helianthoïdes Karat           
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 19, 2008, 04:57:14 PM
Here are some things that are flowering in my garden now:

1 & 2 Arisaema candidissimum (31 in a trough (9 flowering now))
3 Origanum rotundifolia 'Kent Beauty'
4 Zantedeschia
5 Zantedeschia

And here are some of which I don't know the full name:

6 Hebe ?
7 Hypericum ?
8 Sanguisorba ?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Renate Brinkers on June 19, 2008, 05:32:00 PM
WimB,

great pictures, I am green with envy when I see your Arisaemas *smile*
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 19, 2008, 06:48:02 PM
Renate,

if you want one; in the beginning of next year (when they are dormant) I'm going to give some away (of the flowering tubers) and the rest I'll sell .
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Renate Brinkers on June 19, 2008, 07:36:17 PM
Wim,
I would enjoy it. Maybe I have an other  species for you.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 19, 2008, 10:16:00 PM
Great pics Luit and Wim.

Wim, I notice that your Arisaema tend to be a bit shy too..... I find that the flowers always face away from where you want them to, like they're shy and turning their faces for protection.  ;D  I've heard it mentioned many times on the Arisaema list as well.  I figure it is extra warmth from the wall that does it in that case, but I find that often if they're next to a path they still end up facing away from the path.  Mayve they're just mischievious!!  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 20, 2008, 12:20:48 AM
Foliage of Centaurea pulcherrima and Tradescantia ohioensis (both very grey---but it doesn't seem to translate).

Two years ago it was bears.

Last year rodents.

This year the snakes have moved in. I knew they were here before I saw my first one (snake skins lying here and there on the limestone in the rock garden)...today one cooperated for photos.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 20, 2008, 12:34:29 AM
Paeonia obovata always so nice in bud; finished before I noticed.

My seedling Magnolia tripetala, which no one can believe is hardy here (7 years to flowering).

Gentiana lutea which took longer to grow up from seed than many trees and shrubs (8-10 years).

Echinacea simulata is the second to bloom of about 7 or 8 coneflower species I grow.

Penstemon whippleanus is tough and predictable--grows well in wet summer areas; it is one of only a few species I grow in ordinary garden conditions. The remainder are all in the sand bed.

Penstemon pinifolius (Yellow); seed grown from Mersea Yellow.

Penstemon cobaea.

And one of my many wild areas...whatever happens in these spots I allow...and it's fascinating to watch what will compete will all the country grass and weeds!!!






Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 20, 2008, 06:32:20 AM
Hi Paul,

I was going to turn the trough around but they might die from embarrassment  ;)
in my garden it's the same, they are almost all faced away from the paths; that's something I hadn't noticed before, strange...
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 20, 2008, 09:00:58 AM
Foliage of Centaurea pulcherrima and Tradescantia ohioensis (both very grey---but it doesn't seem to translate).

I understand what you mean Kristl. Often the pictures don't show what your eyes did see.

Here some more flowering plants of the last days:

Campanula poscharskyana Silberregen       
Euphorbia sarawschanica 1     
Euphorbia sarawschanica 2   
Erigeron Sommerneuschnee [Snowwhite]
Rodgersia pinnata Die Schöne           
Rodgersia pinnata Die Stolze   
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 20, 2008, 09:05:59 AM
Your garter snakes won't solve the bear or rodent problem Kristl as they feed mainly on worms, fish and amphibians. I see the one in the pic is not far off shedding its skin.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 20, 2008, 10:55:37 AM
Kristl,

Love that snake.  Very cute!! (well as snakes go anyway!  ;D)  If I'd seen that Gentiana without a label I'd have been thinking Phlomis from the pictures.  Didn't realise that there were gentians that flowered like that.  :o

Luit,

That Rodgersia is rather nice.  Didn't realise that they had such nice flowers.  I've always thought of them as having fairly non-descript flowers, but yours certainly doesn't.  Never grown the genus myself.  Great to see it.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 20, 2008, 12:28:15 PM
I see that the eye of the snake looks rather opaque, that shows that it about to shed its skin...is that correct?  I quite like snakes.... no legs!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 20, 2008, 12:37:08 PM
Spot on Maggi. I'm up to 6 snakes now. Garter snakes used to be imported into the UK by the hundred. Surprised they are not feral! Like most northern species of snake, they are live-bearers so regulate the temperature of their developing eggs by their behaviour. Scotland's three native reptiles are all livebearers. The only egg-layer is the sand lizard (Lacerta agilis) introduced to the island of Coll 30 or so years ago.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 20, 2008, 03:09:17 PM
Still wet today.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 20, 2008, 03:15:58 PM
Maggy,
Some years ago, I saw a Snake with legs.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on June 20, 2008, 03:46:13 PM
a bomarea species possibly hirta planted in the sand plunge on the floor of the greenhouse
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 20, 2008, 08:56:09 PM
Glamorous plant, I love Bomareas.
Tony, how tall is it?

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 20, 2008, 08:57:06 PM
Bernard, your snake is cheating! ;D


Tony, lovely marking on the Bomarea........ but might it not get a bit large for that home?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 20, 2008, 11:54:58 PM
Interesting "legged" snake!  ;D

The Bomarea is lovely isn't it?  Bought them once or twice but for some reason they have never shot for me.  Guess I am watering them too much while dormant, or something like that.  With flowers like that I might just have to have another go.  :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: rob krejzl on June 21, 2008, 12:14:23 AM
Paul,

If you want I could send you some of the Bomarea, but as Maggi says they can be quite vigorous. When I first saw one down here, at Essie H's, it was up over 4 metres and probably would have been more vigorous if it hadn't been shaded. I remember being warned when I subsequently bought one, about their ability to smother the plant supporting them; certainly something to bear in mind.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on June 21, 2008, 12:20:39 AM
it is about 2 metres maximum when at its longest.I train it up the end of the greenhouse and along the roof. I grew it from seed from one of the exchanges.The shoots are annual and start afresh each spring.It is of course related to alstroemeria.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 21, 2008, 07:57:09 AM
This week;

Corydalis cashmeriana
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Corydalis%20cashmeriana%2008.jpg)

Epimedium grandiflorum nanum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Epimedium%20grandiflorum%20nanum%2008.jpg)

Iris flavissima
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Iris%20flavissima%2008.jpg)

Podophyllum pleiantha
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Podophyllum%20pleiantha%20%2008.jpg)

Trillium cernuum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Trillium%20cernuum%2008.jpg)

This one came to me labelled Anemone tripartita. Can anyone verify this name, I cant find it on the net or in books.
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Anemone%20tripartita%20%2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 21, 2008, 09:24:55 AM
Magnar
It helps if you have beautiful plants to start with, but your postings are outstanding.  How do you edit the photos you take?  What camera and lens do you use.  I would like to improve my photography and approach your standard.

Thanks
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 21, 2008, 11:13:48 AM
Magnar
Everything you show in the Forum is facsinating. An absolutely marvellous collection. As for the anemone, it looks A. trullifolia to me. Are you sure in the Podophyllum identification? P. pleianthum have glossy leaves. I wish I had such a great collection
Some plants flowering this weekend for me. Prostanthera may seem common for Australians, but it is absolutely outstanding here
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 21, 2008, 11:15:21 AM
and some more
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 21, 2008, 12:08:16 PM
OlegKon... The Anemone is not trullifolia. I grow A. trullifolia too and the one I show pic of is a totally different species. The flowers are smaller and more blue than trullifolia and the foliage is also very diffreret.
As for Podophyllum pleiantha I bought it from http://www.rareplants.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=964&strPageHistory=related and I have trusted they have the correct name for it.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 21, 2008, 12:22:04 PM
Art: I have two cameras: Fujifilm Finepics, compact and small , bought this winter, and Olympus Camedia C8080 wide zoom which is now 3 years old. Its also a compact camrea but much bigger than the Fuij one. Both with 8000 megapixels. Most of the plant pics are taken with the Olympus camera.

For editing I have Adobe fotoshop. But I  don't edit much,, only image size and some croping,, and some times sharpening and colour editing to get the flower colour as true as possible. But I take many pics of each plant until I have one I am happy with.

Magnar
It helps if you have beautiful plants to start with, but your postings are outstanding.  How do you edit the photos you take?  What camera and lens do you use.  I would like to improve my photography and approach your standard.

Thanks
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 21, 2008, 02:43:11 PM
Your garter snakes won't solve the bear or rodent problem Kristl as they feed mainly on worms, fish and amphibians.



 ;D ;D ;D

So, Tony, what are snakes good for in the garden?
Have I not oft heard that one should welcome them for this reason?

If they eat worms and amphibians (I have millions of lovely frogs and toads with all my ponds here- each one of which I adore) then how can I appreciate the garters aside from their presence and helping to keep all things in balance?

The one I photographed, by the way, is now a constant presence in the rock garden. He suns himself (when there is sun this year, not just constant rain) on the limestone (or on top of mats of creeping thyme in bloom) and allows me to weed and work quite close to him.


Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: tonyg on June 21, 2008, 03:56:29 PM
A few raised from seed from the Alps. 
 
Dianthus sylvestris - seed came from forumist Franz Hadacek.  Thanks again Franz!

Campanula barbata - blue and white appeared equally from this batch of seed.  I hope to see some in Switzerland when I meet up with Thomas H. next month.  Anyone else want to join us?

Paradisea liliastrum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 21, 2008, 07:15:07 PM
Here are some pictures from last week
The first one shows our backyard, where I started to plant mosly perennials
and some shrubs and small trees, to create a little height here and there.
Imagine that the space between the hedge and the orchids was just nursery
ground without any plants. The whole area is about 20 x 40 m.
Just against the house were some perennials etc. which are some years older.
My first aim was to get the place full with plants, so I used some bigger groups
of 10 to 20 plants of one variety, which from now on will get replaced by more
different plants when I find something interesting.
On the right side I planted some huge perennials to break the winds.
I think it will not become a "beautiful"garden but more a collector's garden,
where always is something to see.

Backyard           
Dactylorhiza praetermissa
Dactylorhiza ex Ellenbank           
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 21, 2008, 07:36:37 PM
Looks great, Lavandelft. I have seen several nice gardens and many interesting plants in Holland. Would love to see yours too some day  :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Roma on June 21, 2008, 10:03:12 PM
Magnar

I think your blue anemone could be obtusiloba, the 'blue buttercup'.


Roma
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 21, 2008, 10:27:45 PM
Magnar

I think your blue anemone could be obtusiloba, the 'blue buttercup'.


Roma

No it is not obtusiloba either... I have that one too, both blue and white, and this one is surely a different species.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Robin Callens on June 21, 2008, 10:45:38 PM
Magnar,

I think your "Podophyllum pleianthum" is a Diphylleia species.

Podophyllum pleianthum has plain green, glossy leaves with shallow, regular lobes.

Robin Callens
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: HClase on June 22, 2008, 12:49:26 AM
We've been away for nearly 3 weeks to a family gathering in Ontario and have returned to find things in Newfoundland still months behind the rest of you!  It has been exceptionally cool and damp for weeks now, and the 14 day forecast isn't much better (not that it's very reliable!).     These pics will give you some idea at to where we are.   Quite a lot of tulips still in bloom - one of my favorites is this T. batalini (from Ruksans), I love the peachy colour, and under better conditions it has a lovely shape too.  Fair Maids of France (Ranunculus aconitifolius 'Flore Pleno') was almost lost because of its habit of dying down quite early in the summer.  It was tracked down in a couple of old gardens here and is considered one of our "heritage plants".  We have several species of Amelanchier growing wild here, but I think this is an imported species but haven't managed to key it out.  (It was already here when we moved in.)  I think the contrast between its white flowers and the china blue of Clematis alpina works well - but they are only open together for a few days.  (The Clematis lasts longest.)  I haven't a picture, but my neighbour still has a clump of a white Narcissus in flower too - I think it's N. thalia - daffodils flowering on midsummer day!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 22, 2008, 01:23:17 AM
Luit,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.... Oh those Dactylorhiza!!!!  :o  Stunning.

Howard,

Great pics.  The Ranunculus aconitifolius 'Flore Pleno' in particular is new to me.  I've seen double yellow Ranunc species before, but never a white.  Very nice!! :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 22, 2008, 03:53:47 AM
Here is Podophyllum pleianthum---sorry the picture of the foliage is not very good.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: DaveM on June 22, 2008, 11:37:46 AM
A few in flower now here in my garden, taken earlier this week....

Potentilla nitida rubra - one of my favourites at this time
Saxifraga 'Winnifred Bevington'
Saxifraga bryoides - has flowered better in other years
Incarvillea zhongdienensis
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 22, 2008, 02:19:03 PM
That's a wonderfully rich flowering Potentilla nitida. My plants usually produce very few flowers. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 22, 2008, 02:24:09 PM
Magnar,

I think your "Podophyllum pleianthum" is a Diphylleia species.

Podophyllum pleianthum has plain green, glossy leaves with shallow, regular lobes.

Robin Callens


It seems you may be right. It's a pity Rareplants do not know what they are selling. The pics on their web site must be mixed up too http://www.rareplants.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=964&strPageHistory=related
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 22, 2008, 02:41:53 PM
Here is Podophyllum pleianthum---sorry the picture of the foliage is not very good.



Kristl - Do you grow this one outside?

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: DaveM on June 22, 2008, 03:39:25 PM
Magnar - thanks. Yes, the potentilla flowers well for me; well at least the part of the plant that is growing over a flat sandstone block does - the stems must be well ripened by the warmth. By contrast, the part of the mat which drapes over the side of the blocks flowers very sparsely.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 22, 2008, 04:05:17 PM
Magnar - thanks. Yes, the potentilla flowers well for me; well at least the part of the plant that is growing over a flat sandstone block does - the stems must be well ripened by the warmth. By contrast, the part of the mat which drapes over the side of the blocks flowers very sparsely.

Thank you, Dave, useful and interesting information. I will certainly try to make my plants flower better too. :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 22, 2008, 05:18:33 PM
Yesterday:

Calandrinia rupestris
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Calandrinia%20rupestris%2008.jpg)

Clematis ochotensis x alpina Tage Lundell
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Clematis%20ochotensis%20x%20aplina%20Tage%20Lundell%2008.jpg)

Smilacina stellata v crassum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Smilacina%20stellata%20v%20crassum%2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 22, 2008, 06:50:45 PM
Some pics from today (garden and wild)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 22, 2008, 07:12:11 PM
Ahh, das Rote Waldvögelein!!!
- Cephelanthera rubra (the red little bird of the forest) -

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 22, 2008, 07:20:43 PM
Gerd, this C. rubra is growing in a moor in common with Pinguicula vulgaris and alpina and full in sun!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 22, 2008, 09:33:45 PM
Hans,

Any names to go with those?  The orchids are beautiful!!  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Giles on June 22, 2008, 11:05:05 PM
re. Kristl's Podophyllums above.
Here's another one....on wasteland/industrial estate Cambridge,Ontario.
(definitely outside!!)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 23, 2008, 01:16:26 AM
John,
The Podophyllum pleianthum is not mine---photographed some 10 years ago at the Montreal Botanic Garden---and this started my quest for seed---which I have yet to be able to find ---it appears that seed is almost never produced on these plants. I think you should have no problem growing it in NS.

Magnar
Isn't that Maianthemum stellatum crassum (Smilacina) a fantastic little plant? It is hard to believe it is really a variety of stellatum---they are so different. I am still waiting to see if my clone will spread like the species. I believe this variety is native to Newfoundland. Below is the species already in early seed formation here.

And Giles,
That "other Podophyllum" is of course the eastern North American native P. peltatum (May Apple), which does not range as far north as I am, but which I certainly grow in the garden (and love). I have travelled to New York state to collect seed in the past, and it is near impossible to find the "apples" when ripe, as they are beloved by the critters (especially deer). The fruits have already formed on my own plants, although they are still small and green. My own small colony is shown below.

And some other good foliage plants in the garden right now:

Maianthemum stellatum in seed.
 Podophyllum peltatum
 Arisaema_ dracontium
 Astilboides tabularis
 Rodgersia pinnata
 Stipa pennata
 Peltoboykinia watanabe
 Saruma henryii






Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 23, 2008, 03:22:15 AM
Magnar & Kristl

Here is a shot of Norris Point in western Newfoundland, a tad windy there as the trees might suggest!  We saw the Smilacina there and there were acres of it. I'm sorry I didn't photograph the whole scene.  Very smart foliage. I don't see the var crassum listed as being in Nfld but the book, A Traveller's Guide to The Wildflowers of Newfoundland Canada shows what they say is a "much smaller plant (3-4 inches high) similar to or a stunted version of S. stellata" ... "has only two flowers". Not terribly scientific and these were bigger than that and had more than two flowers per stalk (see berries). Do you think this is var. crassum?

We collected seed but the germination was quite poor.  I'd be a bit cautious if it decides it's at home in your gardens.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 23, 2008, 05:35:42 AM
Paul, the names of my shown pics:
Campanula cochlearifolia,
Aruncus dioicus (not Polygonum alpinum)
C. rubra
Edraianthus from Kroatia (graminifolius?), the first flowering seedling- on tufa
Bletilla spec.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 23, 2008, 07:17:20 AM
Thanks Hans.  The "C. rubra" is what exactly?  It looks a bit like a small orchid perhaps?  I love that Bletilla.... wish we could get some of the other Bletilla here in Aus.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 23, 2008, 10:24:54 AM
Cephelanthera rubra is the Red Helleborine Paul. A lovely rare orchid.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 23, 2008, 10:55:49 AM
Anthony,

Thanks.  Would never have guessed THAT name, that's for sure. ;D  So many of the terrestrial orchids you guys get over there (over there being anywhere outside of Australia!  ;)) are so desirable.  Hopefully someone has done some importing somewhere along the line and they'll turn up eventually.  I just love them!!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 23, 2008, 03:16:21 PM
Here is a shot of Norris Point in western Newfoundland, a tad windy there as the trees might suggest!  We saw the Smilacina there and there were acres of it. I'm sorry I didn't photograph the whole scene.  Very smart foliage. I don't see the var crassum listed as being in Nfld but the book, A Traveller's Guide to The Wildflowers of Newfoundland Canada shows what they say is a "much smaller plant (3-4 inches high) similar to or a stunted version of S. stellata" ... "has only two flowers". Not terribly scientific and these were bigger than that and had more than two flowers per stalk (see berries). Do you think this is var. crassum?

John,
The plants you show do not have the congested leaves that the variety has. I suspect that your plants are probably the species, just dwarfed because of the environment. Out in the alvars here, in hot, dry and little soil, they look very similar.

I am trying to think what other species might be out there?  M. dilatatum?  I don't know this species---would have to do research.


Maybe Todd Boland will see this post and comment---he made a post on Dave's garden about this dwarf form, saying:

"This is the non-invasive, dwarf version of the regular Star-flowered False Solomon's-Seal. It is native to coastal areas from Newfoundland to northern Maine. It prefers full sun and is often under a foot tall so could be used in a rock-garden setting."

And he has a picture of the plant posted at:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/67356/

I still can't get over how unlike the species it is---and why would the variety be non-invasive, when the species is so highly invasive?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 23, 2008, 03:38:50 PM
Well, if Todd does happen to read this today, 23rd June, then I'll take the chance to wish him a very Happy Birthday! ;D 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 23, 2008, 05:40:02 PM
Kristl - Wow, that is one very nice Smilacina Todd posted on that website. So now I have to wonder which Smilacina is the 3-4" one mentioned in the book.  The books also mentions S. trifoliata.


I'll see him next week and try to photograph any at Oxen Pond BG if it's there. Also ask about this super dwarf one as well.


Are you selling seed of v. crassum?


johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 23, 2008, 06:09:17 PM
John,
It wouldn't be M. trifoliata--which first of all, only grows in moist to wet, acid boggy sites---I photographed it at Alfred Bog in "My Bit Of Heaven" thread when I went to see the Rhododendron canadense in bloom. It's a tiny, wee plant.

I only have one small piece of the var. crassum---one would need a large colony to be able to offer the seed. I'll be bringing it with me when I move to Nova Scotia, so a piece of it has your name on it.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on June 23, 2008, 07:52:43 PM
Kristl - Wow, that is one very nice Smilacina Todd posted on that website. So now I have to wonder which Smilacina is the 3-4" one mentioned in the book.  The books also mentions S. trifoliata.


I'll see him next week and try to photograph any at Oxen Pond BG if it's there. Also ask about this super dwarf one as well.


Are you selling seed of v. crassum?


johnw

Kristl - I should have said the only other species of Smilacina in the book is trifoliata, any entirely different beast.

How imminent is your move east?  Any scouting trips beforehand?

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 24, 2008, 09:53:26 AM
Some more plants flowering here.
The Thalictrum was a bit difficult to photograph, because it's
almost 3 m.
It's remarkably that it is still standing upright, after the heavy winds we had on Sunday.

Gazania linearis             
Leucanthemum Sunny Side Up           
Lilium Red Twinkle   
Astilboides tabularis bl.       
Thalictrum Elin           
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 24, 2008, 10:34:55 AM
Finally some sun and some plants that start to flower because they were waiting for it...

1 Armeria trojana
2 Cortusa matthioli var. pekinensis
3 Hemerocallis & Sisyrinchium striatum
4 Primula florindae
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 24, 2008, 10:51:14 AM
Lvandelft: Gazania linearis,, lovely plant that I would love to grow, but I'm afraid its not hardy here.

Wim B: Last week I got a plant of Armeria trojana. Nice to see what the flowers look like.

And... can anybody please explain what the difference is between Corthusa matthioli and the var. pekinensis.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 24, 2008, 12:54:00 PM
How imminent is your move east?  Any scouting trips beforehand?

John,
As imminent as "I don't have a clue" and the uncertainty is driving me to distraction. There have been no nibbles on my property for a while. The plan has been that as soon as I have a buyer here, I get on that plane to Halifax to find something. As it is a buyers market in NS and I have some good connections there  ;) I think it can be done as simply as that.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anastasia on June 24, 2008, 04:14:06 PM
I too have not so understood, than differs Corthusa matthioli and the var. pekinensis?  ::)

I ask to excuse - it is compelled to show some old photos because the camera is spoiled, the son has fallen down in the river together сним when tried to make good picture Caltha. ;D ;D

But time of flowering and blooming of leaves corresponds to June.   ;)

Probably of you these plants are not interesting to many, but at us a zone of risky agriculture and gardening.  ;D

1. Paradisea liliastrum
2. Gladiolus imbricatus
4. Asfodelus albus
5. Dictamnus albus
6. Dictamnus dasycarpum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 24, 2008, 04:31:06 PM
Beautiful pics, Anasatasia, could you name them please?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 24, 2008, 04:34:08 PM
Thank you for naming the plants, Anastasia.
 Is your son safely out of the river? :o :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anastasia on June 24, 2008, 04:49:51 PM
Leaves forward!  ;D

1. Peltiphyllum peltatum = Darmera peltata
2. Filipendula camtschatica
3. Lysimachia punctata "Alexander"
4. Arisaema amurense
5. Astilboides tabularis

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 24, 2008, 07:42:05 PM
  Fair Maids of France (Ranunculus aconitifolius 'Flore Pleno') was almost lost because of its habit of dying down quite early in the summer.  It was tracked down in a couple of old gardens here and is considered one of our "heritage plants". 

This plant is very popular, and common in many old gardens in North Norway. In the south it was not so well known, but becoming popular there too. I often have people asking me if I can help them to get hold of a plant  :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anastasia on June 24, 2008, 07:42:51 PM
With the son everything is all right, and here its extraction. ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 24, 2008, 07:44:15 PM
I must say especially that first one is a great pic  :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 24, 2008, 08:30:32 PM
Something from last weekend (not alpines, actually)

Ornithogalum arcuatum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 24, 2008, 08:32:00 PM
Forgot to put the name, sorry

Thalictrum kemensis
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 24, 2008, 08:50:57 PM
Last weekend at the 'Westfalenpark' Dortmund.
The great pond for tropical water lilies unfortunately was empty because they restored the whole construction. So there were only a few plants exhibited in smaller basins (no labels).

The blue one possibly is Nymphaea x daubenyana.

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 24, 2008, 09:00:52 PM
Some pics from today

1. Allium narcissiflorum
2. Alstroemeria aurea from Volcan Llaima, Chile
3. + 4. Lilium martagon ssp. cattaniae
5. Clematis versicolor
6. Potentilla eriocarpa
7. Rhodohypoxis deflexa

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 24, 2008, 09:52:13 PM
Quote
7. Rhodohypoxis deflexa
Gerd, do you grow this one outside or do you cover it with some glass in winter?
It seemingly likes a place where Fragaria vesca seeds itself.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 24, 2008, 10:17:22 PM
A few pics from today:

Paeonia 'Fen Yu Nu' (a.k.a. 'Little Medicine Man')
Corydalis linstowiana
Corydalis petrophila - not much to look at in flower, but has pretty foliage in winter (http://planteliste.net/slides/corydalis_petrophila.html#image)
Corydalis sp. ex Chen Yi - looks and smells identical to C. 'Blackberry Wine'
Parochetus communis
Smilacina NOT oleracea
Geranium delavayi

Edit: Gerd; I wonder if your Clematis could be misidentified?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 24, 2008, 11:54:12 PM
Anastasia,

The plant that is called Dictamnus dasycarpum--this looks to me like the pink form of D. albus?
When I looked up the name it appeared that dasycarpum might be a synonym for D. albus? 

Or is it a separate species? I have the white and pink forms of D. albus, and am also growing D. caucasicus (not mature yet).
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Blue-bellied Frog on June 25, 2008, 02:19:39 AM
Three little frogs and a Paeonia :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 25, 2008, 07:43:20 AM
Quote
7. Rhodohypoxis deflexa
Gerd, do you grow this one outside or do you cover it with some glass in winter?
It seemingly likes a place where Fragaria vesca seeds itself.

Luit, I kept it into the greenhouse (nearly dry) over winter. It was planted in May into what I call my ' kitchen garden ' (1,5 qm).

Edit.,
You are right, the Clematis is campaniflora!  Sorry!

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 25, 2008, 08:03:00 AM
Thank you Gerd. I was just wondering about it.
Keeping dry in winter is the best way.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 25, 2008, 08:15:23 AM
Anastasia,

Love those Dictamnus, particularly the markings on Dictamnus dasycarpum.  I haven't come across that genus before... totally new to me.  What is the plant like in growth?  Love that Lysimachia too!!  Very nice variegation.

Gerd,

Ah, martagons.... beautiful!!

Thanks for all the wonderful pictures everyone.  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 25, 2008, 11:35:54 AM
Paul, I think it is a Lilium (martagon) cattaniae from Crotia

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 25, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
Hans,

Yep, I think the cattaniae is a ssp or variety or something.  I was just commenting how beautiful the martagons are..... a favourite Lilium of mine, although one that doesn't thrive in my climate here unfortunately
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Hans A. on June 25, 2008, 12:47:01 PM
Thanks for all this photos!

Some years ago I found Lilium martagon in Plitvice/ Croatia - should have been "cattaniae" too- but not of such a nice beautiful dark colouration.

@Gerd - i think the blue Nymphaea is Nymphaea nouchali var. caerulea - I am growing both,  my N. X daubenyana has no blotches on the leaves and the shape of leaves and flower look a bit different.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Hjalmar on June 25, 2008, 02:35:05 PM
This brings to mind something I wondered. I got seed from Holubec that he lists as Lilium martagon var cataonicum. Do you know if this is the same as cattaniae?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on June 25, 2008, 03:18:25 PM
Here are Lilium martagon from the Upper Austrian Alps (Totes Gebirge), martagon ssp. cattaniae (Croatia) and henryi
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on June 25, 2008, 03:23:13 PM
I think Hans' lilies are actually in THIS order:   8)

1 Lilium martagon ssp. cattaniae (Croatia)
 and 2  Lilium henryi ( orange )
then 3 and 4  Lilium martagon from the Upper Austrian Alps (Totes Gebirge),
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: WimB on June 25, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
Here are a few flowers from my garden this week...

1 Agrimonia eupatoria
2 Gladiolus imbricatus
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 25, 2008, 07:15:50 PM
Thanks for all this photos!
Some years ago I found Lilium martagon in Plitvice/ Croatia - should have been "cattaniae" too- but not of such a nice beautiful dark colouration.
@Gerd - i think the blue Nymphaea is Nymphaea nouchali var. caerulea - I am growing both,  my N. X daubenyana has no blotches on the leaves and the shape of leaves and flower look a bit different.

From The Bulb Book by Rix and Phillips:  Lilium martagon ....the dark wine-red forms have been called L. cattaniae (Vis.) Vis. and var. dalmaticum Elwes
My plants are offspring from a single specimen, collected by a friend decades ago
somewhere in Dalmatia.
Hans,
Thank you for identifacation! Please send  pics from your blue Nymphaeas - must be a heavenly sight!

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 26, 2008, 03:16:52 AM
Hans,

The lilium pics are great.  No liliums here at the moment, so lovely to see them!!  ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Viola on June 26, 2008, 07:52:26 AM
Lilien in my garden.

Karl

Lilium bulbiferum
Lilium martagon ssp.cataniae (Kroatien-Velebit Mt.)
Lilium carniolicum  (kroatien-Velebit Mt.)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 26, 2008, 07:56:52 AM
Karl,

Beautiful.  Don't recall having seen the last species before.  Love those fuzzy stamen!! ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Hans A. on June 26, 2008, 03:48:37 PM
Please send  pics from your blue Nymphaeas - must be a heavenly sight!

Gerd - thanks for the information about Lilium martagon - it seems to be quiete variable in this area.
N. daubenyana is in flower actually - it seems to be hardier than Nymphaea nouchali var. caerulea, but it also has survived here in the (frostfree )garden - last one I have grown from seeds last year and I am still waiting for the first flower. Hope it will really be blue ::).
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 26, 2008, 03:55:35 PM
Thank you Hans,
You must be a lucky person - blue water lilies without additional heating!
I hope, breeders will be successful soon and give us such a colour for more northern climates.

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Hans A. on June 26, 2008, 04:02:57 PM
Some years ago I tried to pollinate N. alba var. minor with N. caerula - pollen - but I never got any viable seed. ::)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 26, 2008, 09:01:39 PM
From my garden this week:

Aquilegia atrovinosa
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Aquilegia%20atrovinosa%2008.jpg)

Paeonia mlokosewitchii
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Paeonia%20mlokosewitchii%2008.jpg)

Primula ioessa
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Primula%20ioessa%2008.jpg)

Aquilegia clematiflora
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Aquilegia%20celmatiflors%20blue%2008.jpg)

Arisaema amurense
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Arisaema%20amurense%2008.jpg)

Meconopsis Lingholm
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Meconopsis%20x%20Lingholm%2008.jpg)

Meconopsis betonicifolia just starting to open
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Meconopsis%20betonicifolia%2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 26, 2008, 09:11:56 PM
Magnar

That was a brilliant fix.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 26, 2008, 09:49:41 PM
What a stunning Primula!

Below;

Dictamnus angustifolius
D. albus var. purpureus
Hosta 'Blue Mouse Ears'
Clematis fusca
Olsynium biflorum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on June 27, 2008, 12:21:21 AM
Now there's a Hosta that would fit my garden. :D Where can I buy it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 27, 2008, 03:03:29 AM
Gerd,

Nymphaea stellata (I think that is the species) grows quite happily here against a warm wall.  Dormant in winter, but rehoots in spring and I usually get some lovely blue flowers off it each year.  Also a purple one too, but I can't recall what species it is.  They're some of my "bucket plants", if you recall the discussion when I posted the pics of my new crocus garden..... they're in pots in the large white buckets, moved against the wall for protection in winter.  They go fully dormant, the water gets ice in the top, and they reshoot in late spring/early summer.

Magnar,

Oh those Mec pics, and the Paeonia.  :o  Beautiful.

Arisaema,

Fantastic pics.  The Dictamnus look just as good in a larger shot as they do in the closeup of the flower.  Does anyone know if these are in Australia?  The Olsynium is rather striking too, must look out for those too.

Thanks everyone for the pics.  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 27, 2008, 03:12:13 AM
The raised barrel cacti bed is continuing its show:
Echinocereus albispinus
E. reichenbachii v. baileyii

The Escobaria vivipara wanted to bloom weeks ago, and seem to have held their buds until they had a day of sunshine.
A different color clone.
And E. vivipara v. arizonica

Orostachys spinosa has an unusual flattered flower spike this year.
O. thyrsiflora unopened spikes.

Talinum calycinum is not to be seen until mid-June, when small succulent tufts suddenly appear from bare soil and then the airy fuscia flowers bloom and bloom and bloom. As soon as seed is produced the entirely plant again neatly disappears to reappear next summer.






Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: rob krejzl on June 27, 2008, 03:15:08 AM
Paul,

I have a vague recollection of seeing Dictamnus at Sally's at some time.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 27, 2008, 03:21:45 AM
The Opuntia are not happy this year after a winter of non-stop, heavy snow followed by non-stop rain since, 5 days out of 7. They have been begging for heat and sunshine and understand they have had a great season in parts of Europe suffering from heat and drought.

While the genus is so tough that it always blooms, no matter what; this year there are not the usual masses of flower. There was also much damage and losses in some populations from the snow load.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 27, 2008, 03:38:13 AM
And the Opuntia fragilis and polyacantha. These are the two Opuntia species native to Canada. In BC there is O. columbiana, which is a cross between the two.

I have more O. fragilis clones than any other species---because I love the small pads---I am always seeking out smaller and smaller forms for my collection. In the European cities series, "Frankfort" bloomed this year for the first time. It's pads are no larger than my thumb nail and it was topped with a HUGE flower in comparison.

I have clones from all over the Canadian prairies---but the one I am most pleased with is the form from Peace River, Alberta---the northermost area for the occurence of the genus in Canada.

O. fragilis has a reputation for being shy of flowering---so I am also always seeking forms that do.

"Potato" is a wonderful spineless cultivar with fascinating grey bumpy pads that are wonderful even if they didn't bloom.

O. polyacantha has the greatest variety of color forms---every conceivable yellow combination, many pinks and even the near white of the beautiful 'Crystal Tide.'



Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 27, 2008, 07:34:28 AM
Kristl, I wish I could grow Opuntias like you do.. but winters are too wet here. They may survive but they don't get anywhere close to yours, and I have not seen a flower in any garden here in the north, not even in whole Norway.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 27, 2008, 08:08:58 AM
Kristl
I did not know that Opuntia could be so beautiful and have such a range of colours.

Thank you for another series of wonderful photographs
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 27, 2008, 09:59:04 AM
Amazing pictures, Kristl!

Anthony; It's the Hosta of the year in the US, so you should probably be able to find it at a decent garden centre. If not, try Beeches, Binny Plants or Bali-Hai :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 27, 2008, 10:06:10 AM
Amazing pictures, Kristl!

Arthur; It's the Hosta of the year in the US, so you should probably be able to find it at a decent garden centre. If not, try Beeches, Binny Plants or Bali-Hai :)

I think you meant Anthony.  I do like the Hosta, but so do my slugs and snails.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 27, 2008, 10:07:31 AM
Oops, sorry, fixed! ;)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 27, 2008, 01:47:52 PM
Kristl, I wish I could grow Opuntias like you do.. but winters are too wet here. They may survive but they don't get anywhere close to yours, and I have not seen a flower in any garden here in the north, not even in whole Norway.

Magnar:
I have never quite understood this. Is it the winters, or is it the lack of strong heat in the summer?

Also, I wonder whether pads are planted in the ideal condition (pure sand or near sandy soil).
Lastly, I also wonder whether pads are mature enough to flower--this is something some people don't consider--many of these species take quite a few years to mature and flower.

The Canadian prairies, where most of the really hardy cacti are native get A LOT of snow each winter and it stays for 4-6 months---but then they have plenty of heat and dry in summer. Here we normally have unpredictable snow cover but wet, wet winters, and usually wet but hot summers.

I know Peter Korn's cactus have had an incredible year with flowers, so he reports,  with all the heat and drought he has had in Sweden.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 27, 2008, 02:09:07 PM
Kristl.. I think you have a point there about lack of summer heat, at least here up north. But the problem with survivale seems to be winter wet. They often rot here in winter.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Brian Ellis on June 27, 2008, 05:29:47 PM
A small mixture from the garden today...
Gladiolus flanaganii, Lathyrus belinensis, Equisetum in a pot hiding a clump of Arisaema, an annual that I love for it's soft apricot colouring - Collomia grandiflora, and a nice bit of happenchance, the birds planted Stipa arundinacea and at its feet Carex 'Frosted Curls'
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 27, 2008, 07:16:38 PM
You grow some very nice annuals Brian.
Does the Lathyrus seed itself like the Collomia does, or do you grow on
each year new plants?
The Equisetum is not the normal E. arvense or am I wrong?
There are some beautiful big form I know about, but would not dare to plant them
here in our sand.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Gerdk on June 27, 2008, 07:31:44 PM
Brian,
Super plants, especially the glad! Do you grow the ' suicide gladiolus ' outside the whole year?

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Brian Ellis on June 27, 2008, 09:38:17 PM
Luit the Lathyrus does not seed itself around, in fact there is very little seed although I hope to have more this year as I am growing more plants.  The Equisetum is  Equisetum hyemale which likes boggy conditions, it is also a bit of a thug - hence the pot to keep it contained. 

Gerd I wish I could, G.flanaganii has to stay in the cool greenhouse over the winter and generally only comes out when it is in flower, it is a super thing.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 28, 2008, 05:54:18 AM
Something from my garden yesterday

 A.cyathoforum v.farrery1
 Allium amphyboleum
 Arisaema flava
 Arisaema jacmontii
 Arum italicum
 Eminium lehmanii
 Eminium lehmanii
 Gladiolus illiricus
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on June 28, 2008, 05:58:14 AM
fogot about pinellia ternata and  Iris pseudocorus
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Anastasia on June 28, 2008, 09:05:55 AM
I have lagged behind you on some pages.  :o

Magnar, your primroses and Aquilegia simply fantasy.  :o

About Dyctamnus:

Dictamnus dasycarpum Turcz. - Siberia, the Far East, East Asia.

Here it is in detail written, but in Russian. I shall not translate to not add mistakes. Probably you will understand better: http://flower.onego.ru/other/dictamnu.html

Paul, I can send you seeds from the plants.  ;)
I think, that at you in Australia they will well grow. All Dyctamnus very much love the sun. :D

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: HClase on June 28, 2008, 04:17:17 PM
Our forecast of another fortnight of rain, drizzle and fog (rdf) wasn't correct - we had three warm (20-25) sunny days before returning to 9C and rdf.  Three days of furious gardening.  Not much time for pictures but here's our last frit - F. camschatcensis, the chocolate lily and a couple of wild things from the woods.  Starflower, Trientalis borealis is our only local member of primulacae and is quite common in our woods - I've seen up to 4 flowers per plant, but 1 or 2 is more usual.  The understorey is often carpeted with Crackerberry (NF name), Cornus canadensis like English woods with wood anemone - the "petals" are of course white bracts, the tiny flowers cluster in the middle - they are creamy in C. canadensis and purplish black in C. suecica, which we have in coastal sites.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on June 28, 2008, 06:57:52 PM
Howard, your rdf sounds very much like Devon weather, albeit with lower temperatures ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Hans J on June 28, 2008, 10:19:31 PM
here some Hemerocallis from our garden today :

H. APRICOT ANGEL

H. ICE CARNIVAL

H. SUZIE WONG
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: HClase on June 29, 2008, 12:03:10 AM
David,

maybe that's why so many people from Devon settled here (including me - sort of, all my ancestors were born in Devon even if I'm actually a moonraker).
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Viola on June 29, 2008, 06:53:38 AM
Pics from Eisenerzer Reichenstein-Austrian Mt.
Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Viola on June 29, 2008, 07:03:30 AM
More pics and rock goat.
Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 29, 2008, 07:05:49 AM
Karl,

What lovely pics.  The first one in your second posting looks like a perfect rock garden that someone has planted out in their garden.  Very cool!  The goats are cute, the Viola even moreso, and the Rhododendron is spectacular.  Fantastic pics, thanks so much for posting them. :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 29, 2008, 11:06:16 AM
It's alwats so very interesting to see nature pics like these, Thanks a lot.  :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on June 29, 2008, 12:34:03 PM
Nature pictures are my favorites...thank you Karl.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Viola on June 29, 2008, 05:42:42 PM
Another pics from Reichenstein.
Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 29, 2008, 09:01:26 PM
A few fron the later days:

Cypripedium corrugatum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Cypripedium%20corrugatum%2008.jpg)

Ligularia alpigena
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Ligualria%20alpigena%2008.jpg)

Paeonia anomala x teunifolia
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Paeonia%20anomala%20x%20teunifolia%2008.jpg)

Delphinium brunonianum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Delphinium%20brunonianum%2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Hans A. on June 29, 2008, 11:38:44 PM
Magnar and Karl - your pictures are breathtaking - Cypripedium corrugatum is a real stunner :o and interesting and beautiful Paeoniahybrid. :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on June 30, 2008, 08:19:05 AM
I echo Hans' comments. 

I am intrigued by the Delphinium - how tall is it?  Does it easily form a clump?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Katherine J on June 30, 2008, 08:52:25 AM
Karl,
I spent 6 beautiful days in the Eisenerzer Alpen in 2004 (I was on Reichenstein too, and have seen also the goats  ;D). Thank you so much for your pics!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 30, 2008, 12:25:40 PM
I echo Hans' comments. 

I am intrigued by the Delphinium - how tall is it?  Does it easily form a clump?

The Delphinium is about 25 cm here growing in compost. If it gets poorer soil it only gets to may be 15 cm. And yes, it quite easily forms a good clump.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 30, 2008, 12:51:20 PM
The Delphinium is about 25 cm here growing in compost. If it gets poorer soil it only gets to may be 15 cm. And yes, it quite easily forms a good clump.

Do you have several forms of it? I received seeds from you a few years ago, they all grew into wonderful plants, but are much taller, 65cm in flower.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Susan Band on June 30, 2008, 04:54:01 PM
Magnar, I missed seeing your photos.Lovely
Susan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Susan Band on June 30, 2008, 05:01:36 PM
I am sure there was a topic for South African plants, couldn't find it so will just put it here.
Dierama tridovizum grown from Silverhills seed giving a lovely display at this time of year.
Susan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on June 30, 2008, 05:05:22 PM
That's a beauty Susan!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 30, 2008, 09:45:32 PM
The Delphinium is about 25 cm here growing in compost. If it gets poorer soil it only gets to may be 15 cm. And yes, it quite easily forms a good clump.

Do you have several forms of it? I received seeds from you a few years ago, they all grew into wonderful plants, but are much taller, 65cm in flower.

Yes I have got lower forms since you got the seeds.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on June 30, 2008, 09:49:05 PM
I am sure there was a topic for South African plants, couldn't find it so will just put it here.
Dierama tridovizum grown from Silverhills seed giving a lovely display at this time of year.
Susan


Lovely plant, Susan, wish it was so hardy that it could be grown in my garden.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on June 30, 2008, 10:03:36 PM
Thanks Magnar :)

Susan; how many years did the Dierama need to reach flowering stage? D. pulcherrimum isn't hardy here, but I'm hoping that species might be.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 01, 2008, 12:40:05 AM
While looking for something else, I've just found this thread, totally lost when my computer stopped notifying me of anything new, a month ago. Last 4 hours catching up. There are so many things I want to say or ask about but silly to go back there now. Just heartfelt thanks to all posters of text and pictures. June in the northern hemishere is a marvellous time obviously.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on July 01, 2008, 03:00:23 AM
Regarding Dierama---my friend Ellen who owns Seneca Hill Perennials in Oswego, New York, close to where I live (probably average winter lows of -25C) sells and grows a number of South African plants---

She lists many species of Dierama, but the following are noted as growing OUTDOORS IN THE GARDEN. All were originally grown from Silverhills seed.

D. igneum
D. pauciflorum
D. trichorhizum

http://www.senecahillperennials.com/index.php?page=plants-d
 Sorry  Seneca hills website is closed
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on July 01, 2008, 05:49:03 AM
I've only ever got a couple of things from Ellen (mainly cyclamen), but got very good germination rates too (including purpurascens which is notoriously sporadic for germinating).  Good and fresh, well cared for seed. Much as I'd imagine Kristl provides (I'm still resisting going to your website Kristl..... there'll be far too many things I want.  ::))
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on July 01, 2008, 06:19:34 AM
Thanks everybody for wonderful pictures. Here is something from my garden of yesterday

 Allium obliquum
 Allium waldschteinii
 Codonopsis
 Ornithogallum flavescense
 Penstemon serrulatus
 Sedum kamtschaticum
 Tradescantia
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Susan Band on July 01, 2008, 09:43:01 AM
Ariaeama, it only took 2 years to flowering I think, it was really quick and easy. It grows outside in the field along with my bulbs and sets loads of seed each year. I doubt I will have to be remembering to put a lot of things in the seed ex. this Autumn.
Susan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on July 01, 2008, 10:45:19 AM
Last day of June:

Anemone trullifolia v linearis
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Anemone%20trullifolia%20v%20linearis%2008.jpg)

Anemonella thalictroides Shoaf's from
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Anemonella%20thalictroides%20shhoafs%20form%2008.jpg)

Aquilegia glandulosa v jukunda
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Aquilegia%20glandulosa%20v%20jukunda%2008.jpg)

Erodium macrodenum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Erodium%20marodenum08.jpg)

Lilium lophophorum, very low form. 12 cm
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Lilium%20lophophorum%2008.jpg)

Oxalis Ute
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Oxalis%20Ute%2008.jpg)

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on July 01, 2008, 11:57:57 AM
Oh Magnar, they're beautiful.  I'll have one of each please!!  ;) ;D  The Anemonella, Erodium and Lilium in particular are glorious!! :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: art600 on July 01, 2008, 12:20:51 PM
I echo Paul's comments.  Such a succession of wonderful plants, brilliantly photographed.  Making a list of seeds I would like.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on July 01, 2008, 08:21:48 PM
Lewisia rediviva Jolon's strain in bloom today from nowhere as usual. A plant that thrives on neglect. Seed from Ashwood.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on July 01, 2008, 08:35:53 PM
Nice rediviva John.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on July 01, 2008, 08:41:46 PM
One from the garden today Tritelia laxa (or Brodiae-call it what you will?) 'Queen Fabiola. This is it's second flowering year and the corms are not lifted.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on July 01, 2008, 08:47:10 PM
Thanks, interesting, I was not aware of this plant. I see it comes from California and Oregon. Wonder how hardy it might be  ;)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on July 01, 2008, 08:54:42 PM
Magnar, my corms were Dutch raised stock bought from a local garden centre sale table and cost me £1.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on July 01, 2008, 09:23:20 PM
Magnar, it's worth a try! I think you will not loose them in winter
when you plant them between some perennials. Their leaves
wil cover the bulbs in winter.
And they are really cheap too.
Maybe you did see the last week's Lisse Flowershow, there I showed
pictures of newer hybrids.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on July 01, 2008, 09:35:16 PM
Magnar, it's worth a try! I think you will not loose them in winter
when you plant them between some perennials. Their leaves
wil cover the bulbs in winter.
And they are really cheap too.
Maybe you did see the last week's Lisse Flowershow, there I showed
pictures of newer hybrids.

Yes I saw that,, I always enjoy your postings there.
Have never seen any for sale here so I guess I shall have to order from Holland.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: johnw on July 01, 2008, 10:07:28 PM
Nice rediviva John.

David - Pretty consistent from seed and the flowers are large.  Must check to see if Ashwood has improved it - hmm, they don't list it anymore.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on July 02, 2008, 12:07:37 AM
Magnar,

The Queen Fabiola are glorious.  A colour I really love, plus absolutely thrive here with no care or attention, be they in the ground or in pots.  Great results for no work! ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Stephenb on July 02, 2008, 08:10:09 AM
Thanks, interesting, I was not aware of this plant. I see it comes from California and Oregon. Wonder how hardy it might be  ;)

Magnar - I've tried to overwinter Triteleia laxa several times, mostly first year plants from seed. The only time I succeeded with Triteleia was with bulbs of Triteleia "Wisley Blue" and even that disappeared the second year. However, I'm almost certain I saw Triteleia in the botanics in Tromsø, so you should definitely try...
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Thomas Huber on July 02, 2008, 08:14:35 AM
Magnar, I grow these plants for 5 years outside in my garden and they have proved to be very hardy, also increasing well!
Some weeks ago I have thrown many of them in the rubbish to make space for a new rockgarden  :-\
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on July 02, 2008, 08:39:10 AM
Magnar, I grow these plants for 5 years outside in my garden and they have proved to be very hardy, also increasing well!
Some weeks ago I have thrown many of them in the rubbish to make space for a new rockgarden  :-\

That's a pity, Thomas. I would have liked to get them.. I shall certainly try Triteleia when I can get hold of some.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on July 02, 2008, 09:17:00 AM
Magnar, if you have any trouble getting hold of some corms please let me know. They are available here in many outlets and I would be happy to get some when they come in to the stores and post them on to you.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on July 02, 2008, 09:37:26 AM
Stephen, you are talking about Ipheion Wisley Blue, which used to be Triteleia.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: olegKon on July 02, 2008, 06:49:36 PM
Magnar, Tritillea laxa, hyacinthina, *tubergeniana survive happily winters in Moscow provided they are covered with snow. Hope you'll be successful with them
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on July 02, 2008, 07:29:41 PM
Only one flower worth posting today, Notholirion bulbuliferum. They are monocarpic, but that's easily forgiven as they flower in their third year from seed.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on July 02, 2008, 09:22:02 PM
Thanks, interesting, I was not aware of this plant. I see it comes from California and Oregon. Wonder how hardy it might be  ;)

The Tritelia is absolutely hardy here, Magnar, and I am a lot colder than you...
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on July 02, 2008, 09:33:00 PM
Magnar,

I am enjoying a moment of delight - now, I have to admit that this is a bold delight, the kind of delight one associates with a bold child. Usually, I am envious of the many, many beautiful plants you show from your garden but then you mention that you would enjoy growing something which grows almost like a weed here. My wife constantly threatens to put all triteleia laxa into the compost bin. They grow very easily and self-seed generously.

So, here, for your enjoyment is a photograph of Triteleia laxa from the garden today. There are plenty of bulbs in the garden so remind me later in the season if you want some.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on July 02, 2008, 10:24:59 PM
Today I cycled to a place where I know of a field (app. 1 Ha.)
with Triteleia in flower, to make a picture. But alas the gardener had
cut off al the flowers.   :( :'(
For him the growing of the bulbs are important.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 03, 2008, 12:59:42 AM
Of course Tritelia laxa used to be called Brodiaea laxa and I wish the old name still applied as it's less likely to be mixed up with the "weedy" tritelias, now called Ipheion. ???
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on July 03, 2008, 09:18:30 AM
Aren't Ipheions now  Tristagma??  B****y taxonomists!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on July 03, 2008, 10:44:23 AM
Aren't Ipheions now  Tristagma??  B****y taxonomists!

 Tristagma.....Are they?  :o    I give up! :-\
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on July 03, 2008, 07:44:54 PM
Aren't Ipheions now  Tristagma??  B****y taxonomists!

 Tristagma.....Are they?  :o    I give up! :-\

Diane Clement would know for certain.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on July 03, 2008, 09:16:54 PM
Of course Tritelia laxa used to be called Brodiaea laxa and I wish the old name still applied as it's less likely to be mixed up with the "weedy" tritelias, now called Ipheion. ???

Diane Clement would know for certain.

Wow, what a reputation!  I'm not sure I do know, but I do know where to look!  The family Alliaceae has undergone a massive rethink recently.  The DNA guys have absorbed ALL of the family Amaryllidaceae into Alliaceae (narcissus, galanthus, habranthus, rhodophiala, etc, the lot).  The American (N & S) genera have been in a state of flux for some time, with Iphieon, Triteleia, Brodiea etc being reclassified, some of them more than once. 

When I have on my AGS-seed-name-checkers-hat I have many referenced sources of names.  For monocots, the current most up to date is the Kew monocot database, which is based on current DNA-analysis thinking.
http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/   (type Ipheion in the search box)
this tells us that Ipheion as a genus is now completely gone, mostly absorbed into Tristagma.  Beware that there is not a gender change, so Ipheion uniflorum becomes Tristagma uniflorUM

My next check is the US flora which is kept very much up to date
http://plants.usda.gov/   
Type in the search box Ipheion and it throws up Tristagma uniflorum as the current name with several other now redundant synonyms:  Brodiaea uniflora, Ipheion uniflorum, Milla uniflora and Triteleia uniflora.  An excellent website for information, including distribution maps.

And my other main reference is the current Plant finder - available on line
http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.asp

Just as you were beginning to feel happy, the Plantfinder still lists Ipheion as Ipheion.  Unfortunately, this reference is the one available to most people and it reflects the nursery names although it does tend to lag several years behind taxonomic changes.  John Bryan is a very good reference and he also lists Ipheion as Ipheion and does not acknowledge Tristagma at all. 

So you make your own choices ...  I will continue to go with Ipheion in the AGS seed list until the Plantfinder catches up and then at least most people will still understand what it is.   

I'd enjoy hearing the thoughts of a real expert in this area - Alberto please comment?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 04, 2008, 01:38:02 AM
Well then, what about Ipheion sellowianum which used to be something else before Ipheion, but last time I looked (and changed my labels) it had become Nothoscordum sellowianum. What is it now? (Do I really want to know? :-\)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on July 04, 2008, 08:59:18 AM
Well then, what about Ipheion sellowianum which used to be something else before Ipheion, but last time I looked (and changed my labels) it had become Nothoscordum sellowianum.

They have all been something else recently!  Brodiae, Beauverdia, Triteleia ...

Quote
  What is it now?
Ipheion sellowianum is now Tristagma sellowianum (according to KEW classification)

http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id=290493&repSynonym_id=290514&name_id=279356&status=false

BUT I think the real confusion is with the "other" yellow one, Ipheion dialystemon which is now listed as Nothoscordum dialystemon.  I'm not really sure what the difference is between these two.   :-\


Quote
Do I really want to know? :-\) 

No, I suspect that you didn't! unless you want to keep investing in more labels.   ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on July 04, 2008, 09:13:54 AM
At least they've kept Nomocharis oxypetala (Lilium oxypetalum) as a species, in FoC it's lumped into N. aperta...  :-\ ???
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Paul T on July 04, 2008, 10:17:51 AM
Quote
  What is it now?
Ipheion sellowianum is now Tristagma sellowianum (according to KEW classification)

http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id=290493&repSynonym_id=290514&name_id=279356&status=false

BUT I think the real confusion is with the "other" yellow one, Ipheion dialystemon which is now listed as Nothoscordum dialystemon.  I'm not really sure what the difference is between these two.   :-\

Diane,

I've only recently got both of these, but my understanding is that one flowers in spring and the other autumn.  I can't remember which is which, but I'll add the other complications of the names Ipheion hirtellum and Ipheion (Nothoscordum) filliponei, which I think are further synonyms for what we're talking about.  ::)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on July 04, 2008, 02:27:17 PM
At least they've kept Nomocharis oxypetala (Lilium oxypetalum) as a species, in FoC it's lumped into N. aperta...  :-\ ???

It's inconsistent, because the key is as you say, but the checklist still gives Lilium oxypetalum as a valid name.  Interestingly, FoC also lists Allium still in Liliaceae whereas most of us removed it about 20 years ago    :o

If anyone is still awake, or actually cares, PBS complicates the issue further: 
Ipheion sellowianum (Kunth)Traub) or Nothoscordum sellowianum or Nothoscordum felipponei . What to call this plant is very confusing. Many of us received it as Ipheion sellowianum only to be told to call it Nothoscordum sellowianum and then were told that Nothoscordum felipponei was the correct name for both this plant and Nothoscordum dialystemon. The RHS plant finder still lists both species under Ipheion. Kew on the other hand recognizes none of these names, but gives two more possibilities, Nothoscordum bivale var. bivale as a syn. for Nothoscordum sellowianum and Tristagma sellowianum as the correct name for Ipheion sellowianum.

Quote from:  http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ipheion
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: arisaema on July 04, 2008, 05:02:14 PM
Interestingly, FoC also lists Allium still in Liliaceae whereas most of us removed it about 20 years ago    :o

Yes, I've noticed, curiously both FoC and USDA Plants does that.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Magnar on July 04, 2008, 08:36:14 PM
Magnar,

I am enjoying a moment of delight - now, I have to admit that this is a bold delight, the kind of delight one associates with a bold child. Usually, I am envious of the many, many beautiful plants you show from your garden but then you mention that you would enjoy growing something which grows almost like a weed here. My wife constantly threatens to put all triteleia laxa into the compost bin. They grow very easily and self-seed generously.

So, here, for your enjoyment is a photograph of Triteleia laxa from the garden today. There are plenty of bulbs in the garden so remind me later in the season if you want some.

Paddy

Paddy, thanks a lot for you nice offer. Hope I can have someting to send you in return.

Magnar :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage June 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on July 06, 2008, 02:13:24 AM
Well then, what about Ipheion sellowianum which used to be something else before Ipheion, but last time I looked (and changed my labels) it had become Nothoscordum sellowianum.

They have all been something else recently!  Brodiae, Beauverdia, Triteleia ...

Quote
  What is it now?
Ipheion sellowianum is now Tristagma sellowianum (according to KEW classification)

http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id=290493&repSynonym_id=290514&name_id=279356&status=false

BUT I think the real confusion is with the "other" yellow one, Ipheion dialystemon which is now listed as Nothoscordum dialystemon.  I'm not really sure what the difference is between these two.   :-\


Quote
Do I really want to know? :-\) 

No, I suspect that you didn't! unless you want to keep investing in more labels.   ;D

Helen damn!!!
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