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Title: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: ArnoldT on March 28, 2020, 05:26:06 PM
Leucocoryne purpurea.

A solid performer.

Gets bothered by some black aphids.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: PaulFlowers on March 29, 2020, 08:24:40 AM
Neomarica caerulea - the plant is a bit bulky and prone to red spider mites. It spends the summer in the garden but this year it’s flowred for the first time. I think its stunning
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2020, 04:53:25 PM
Neomarica caerulea - the plant is a bit bulky and prone to red spider mites. It spends the summer in the garden but this year it’s flowred for the first time. I think its stunning
It  really  is gorgeous, Paul, what a  fabulous  colour!!
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 30, 2020, 06:01:51 PM
Leucocoryne vittata
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 30, 2020, 08:13:01 PM
Nothoscorodum ostenii (Uruguay)
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 31, 2020, 04:24:23 PM
Hippeastrum evansiae
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 02, 2020, 02:50:52 PM
Eithea blumenavium (Brazil) in bloom now without leaves.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: David Nicholson on April 02, 2020, 03:36:07 PM
Some lovely stuff here folks.

I can't speak for other Brits but it has really been a stonking Ipheion year this year in my garden. 'Froyle Mill', 'Jessie' and 'Charlotte Bishop' are just about over now (having started in late February) but the following are still doing well.

Ipheion 'Alberto Castillo'

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Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: David Nicholson on April 02, 2020, 03:38:44 PM
Whoops!

Ipheion uniflorum

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Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: ArnoldT on April 02, 2020, 08:01:04 PM
Leucocoryne vittata

Some serious flower variation here.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Gerdk on April 07, 2020, 06:30:53 PM
Just in flower  Ipheion uniflorum ex Alberto Castillo

Gerd
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 08, 2020, 03:41:36 PM
Pasithea caerulea
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: David Nicholson on April 08, 2020, 06:35:16 PM
Nice plant, I've never seen it before.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Gerdk on April 08, 2020, 08:30:31 PM
only for correct information: Pasithea comes from Chile, not from South Africa

Gerd
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on April 08, 2020, 09:04:14 PM
only for correct information: Pasithea comes from Chile, not from South Africa

Gerd
Oops!  Thanks Gerd, I've  moved  this!
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 09, 2020, 06:37:13 PM
Does Eithea blumenavium cross with anything?
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: ArnoldT on April 09, 2020, 10:53:22 PM
This is more the type.

Leucocoryne vittata

Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rob-Rah on April 12, 2020, 10:01:05 AM
Paramongaia weberbaueri - this bulb's first flowering: I think the flowers will be bigger next year. A very sweet scent of nothing in particular. Just sweet.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Gail on April 12, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
Paramongaia weberbaueri - this bulb's first flowering: I think the flowers will be bigger next year. A very sweet scent of nothing in particular. Just sweet.
Wow, oh wow! That is lovely! How long to flowering? Have you grown it from seed?
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rob-Rah on April 12, 2020, 01:48:59 PM
No - it was from an offset bulb 2 years ago
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 12, 2020, 03:19:10 PM
Very nice!

Mine are still dormant having grown through Spring/Summer; they only died back in early December. I’ve never yet flowered this species. I started off with one but now have about six -they seem to put their effort into making new bulbs .....but I’ve yet to see a flower. 

Perhaps I don’t keep them warm enough or maybe I should try switching them to a winter growth regime with dormancy and a baking in the Summer??   ???

Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rob-Rah on April 12, 2020, 09:11:05 PM
Do you know if yours is the "winter" or "summer" growing version?

This one dies back in summer and gets its first water in around Dec, and starts into grow in Jan-ish. I understand that it's the "winter" one.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: majallison on April 12, 2020, 09:19:55 PM
I find Paramongaia is not willing to please; I have a bulb of the summer-growing form which flowered a couple of times for me in the summer but then decided determinedly to come into growth in November, so it's in full growth when light levels are lowest: no flowers for about 3 years now....
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Gail on April 12, 2020, 09:23:42 PM
Have you come across any picture of Paramongaia in the wild?
I was looking at the photos of wild Ismene amancaes on the Pacific Bulb Society site (https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ismene (https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ismene)) and wondered if Paramongaia is similarly plentiful anywhere??
(And does anyone fancy a plant tour to Lima in June/July one year!)
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: majallison on April 12, 2020, 09:27:28 PM
Very excited that Eucrosia 'Harry Hay's hybrid' (I think the parentage is mirabilis x aurantiaca) is coming into flower... It was a kind gift from a forumist a couple of years ago... it's winter deciduous, but the leaves are very imposing, wider than they are long.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: majallison on April 12, 2020, 09:32:00 PM
Have you come across any picture of Paramongaia in the wild?
I was looking at the photos of wild Ismene amancaes on the Pacific Bulb Society site (https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ismene (https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ismene)) and wondered if Paramongaia is similarly plentiful anywhere??
(And does anyone fancy a plant tour to Lima in June/July one year!)

I think I came across some research that stated that there were half a dozen or more populations of Paramongaia & that in limited areas it's quite abundant & local people pick the flowers to sell to tourists... will see if I can find the info, I think it might have been in Spanish (one of many languages I do not speak. Or read.)
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 12, 2020, 11:33:18 PM
Do you know if yours is the "winter" or "summer" growing version?

This one dies back in summer and gets its first water in around Dec, and starts into grow in Jan-ish. I understand that it's the "winter" one.

Mine usually starts into growth in early May and goes dormant in December.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Gail on April 13, 2020, 08:26:04 AM
You can access Brian Mathew's 1997 Curtis's Botanical Magazine article on Paramongaia here;
https://www.jstor.org/stable/45065245?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents (https://www.jstor.org/stable/45065245?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents)
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Steve Garvie on April 13, 2020, 09:08:08 AM
Thanks Gail.
I think I’m keeping my plants too cold over their winter dormancy. I will try storing indoors for 12 weeks at >15°C from December to March.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: majallison on April 15, 2020, 08:53:02 PM
Eucrosia 'Harry Hay's hybrid'... a couple of days later & the stamens have unfurled, it really is remarkable...
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on April 15, 2020, 09:17:23 PM
Eucrosia 'Harry Hay's hybrid'... a couple of days later & the stamens have unfurled, it really is remarkable...
You'd  never  manage  to fold  up all its "bits"  and  get them back inside the  flower, could  you?!! Just  another  example  of how  fascinating  flowers  can  be.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 19, 2020, 02:19:41 PM
Eucrosia eucrosioides -Catacocha, Ecuador.
Flowers open Green

April 24 - red developing in blooms
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on April 19, 2020, 03:02:29 PM
Eucrosia eucrosioides -Catacochia ecuador.
Flowers open Green
Very  green indeed!
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 20, 2020, 09:23:13 AM
Conanthera trimaculata, flowering for the first time 8 year after sowing ! The bulbs has been looking mature since several years but didn't want to bloom for unkown reasons and, for unkown reasons, I have 3 stems this year. Was looking very lovely on picture and I'm not disappointed to look at it now  ;D
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on April 21, 2020, 11:48:06 PM
Conanthera trimaculata, flowering on this side of the pond for the first time.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Gerdk on May 23, 2020, 06:04:23 PM
Just in flower (and survived the second winter outside here)

Sisyrinchium laetum - a smaller version of S. macrocarpum

Gerd
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on May 24, 2020, 12:31:26 AM
Ecrosia aurantiaca. With Nice offset flower stems.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Gail on May 24, 2020, 04:50:15 PM
Lovely Eucrosia. Here Leucocoryne odorata is flowering but not really living up to its name.
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Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: ashley on May 24, 2020, 08:45:02 PM
But what lovely green eyes ;)
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: ArnoldT on June 30, 2020, 03:28:08 AM
Phaedranassa dubia from Colombia and Equador
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: johnw on June 30, 2020, 02:09:17 PM
Lovely Arnold.  I have about a dozen now in 3L pots with big aspidistra-like leaves, very handsome but a long way from flowering

john
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: johnw on June 30, 2020, 10:51:13 PM
And the marvelous broad leaves of Phaenadrassa dubia.

johnw
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: johnw on July 06, 2020, 04:28:28 PM
Three Rhodophialas in flower here. 

1. R. montanus

2. R. advena

3. R. advena x R. montanus

I repeated the cross to compare with #3, the first of a previous seed lot to flower.

johnw
overcast, drizzle
fog, 56F
badly in need of rain.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: johnw on July 13, 2020, 01:37:42 AM
A sibling to the last one posted, looks like the R. montanus genes are dominating in this one.  Big too, almost finger length & twice the size of R. montanus.  Creamy with a very faint hint of peach.  So I guess the cross deiniitely took.


johnw
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: johnw on July 13, 2020, 01:45:41 AM
Rimmer - that Ecrosia aurantiaca is fantastic.  Any chance of a seed swap for some Rhodophiala selfs and crosses I posted above?

In any case a remarkable sight there.

johnw
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: ArnoldT on August 01, 2020, 08:15:02 PM
Phaedranassa viridiflora
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 21, 2020, 07:44:38 AM
Tropaelum brachyceras, a recent gift from Ray Mills in Guildford (Australia)  from whom I've had numerous bulbs over the years
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: johnw on August 26, 2020, 11:59:59 PM
The brilliant red Rhodophiala appeared from nowhere a few days ago.  First flowering fort me & a challenge to capture the true red.

johnw
at last some coolness
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on August 30, 2020, 02:45:03 PM
Clinanthus incarnatus In bloom now after lots of rain and humidity. This used to bloom in May.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on September 03, 2020, 10:10:54 PM
Rhodophiala bifida ssp spacthacea. First bloom.
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on September 03, 2020, 10:14:39 PM
Common sterile Rhodophiala bifida oxblood lily
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 04, 2020, 01:18:27 AM
Hi Rimmer,
nice pics! When you say that the ox-blood form is sterile is that just because it's self-sterile? Have you tried pollen from another clone on it - such as he pink - before?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Hans J on September 05, 2020, 11:00:50 AM
Funny :)

Here are also flowering my Rhodophiala bifida ( first watering on 01. September )

Nr. 1 +3 are also Rhodophiala bifida "Oxblood Lily "
Nr. 2 - I have received this plants before many years as Rhodophiala bifida "Pink" ( but it is for me not really pink )

I have tried yesterday to cross pollinate this plants ...we will see
In memory is that I have made this polliantion before some years ...and it works

Hans :)
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 05, 2020, 04:27:45 PM
Nothoscordum ostenii and in the 3rd pic, comparing it to Nothoscordum felipponei which the Pacific Bulb Society seems to think are the same ???
I only have one plant of it left so hope it will set some seed this year,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Hans J on September 06, 2020, 10:20:32 AM
Update from today :)
Now are near all flowers open :
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on September 06, 2020, 10:59:51 AM
Update from today :)
Now are near all flowers open :
      Wow!!
Title: Re: South American bulbs 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on September 16, 2020, 03:46:25 PM
Hi Rimmer,
nice pics! When you say that the ox-blood form is sterile is that just because it's self-sterile? Have you tried pollen from another clone on it - such as he pink - before?
cheers
fermi
Fermi my delayed reply is due to looking for these books. This is a triploid plant

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