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Title: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Rob-Rah on March 06, 2020, 12:14:25 PM
This is Aenome pavonina, three years from seed. I hope the flowers extend a bit better than this... while the nodding is cute, I prefer straighter more upright habit. I'd also love a range of different colours,. but I only got one plant germinated out of the batch this was in, and so here we are. I recall fondly walking through the massed flowering of these in Lesvos olive groves...... :)

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And this is the first A. blanda in the open garden:

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Title: Re: Anemone 2020
Post by: Rob-Rah on March 09, 2020, 10:34:14 AM
Aha! The pavonina decided to rise to the occasion:
Title: Re: Anemone 2020
Post by: Maggi Young on March 09, 2020, 11:26:11 AM
Aha! The pavonina decided to rise to the occasion:
   I thought  it would - so pretty.
Title: Re: Anemone 2020
Post by: Gail on March 09, 2020, 08:21:02 PM
One of my A. pavonia, bought from Ashwoods
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Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Rob-Rah on March 13, 2020, 01:15:30 PM
I have this lovely thing just starting to open. This is a yellow form of Ranunculuas asiaticus. It has a super orange-crimson blush to the undersides of the petals as well as a good strong yellow on top. this was the only plant to germinate from my seeds, so I hope I can keep it happy. It's two years old now.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: ashley on March 13, 2020, 01:33:59 PM
Gorgeous.  I have only the scarlet, lovely too, but still a week or two off flowering.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on March 21, 2020, 08:43:00 PM
Caltha palustris [attachimg=2]

 and Anemone pavonina, not really scarlet either.. .
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Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: ashley on April 29, 2020, 05:50:34 PM
Beautiful A. pavonina Véronique 8)

Here's Ranunculus asiaticus from eastern Turkey (JJA  coll.), elegant even in dingy surroundings.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Yann on April 29, 2020, 06:05:24 PM
Very nice, asiaticus is so fascinating.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on April 30, 2020, 07:46:20 AM
Oh! what a beautiful red

Ranunculus serpens 'Flore pleno',found and harvested in a meadow not far away.
I am delighted by its port and its robustness.
 I determined the species myself with several flora, I hope it's good. It has a large tuber.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Mariette on May 01, 2020, 09:39:57 AM
It´s good that You mention the tuber - this hints to R. bulbosus.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 27, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
Adonis amurensis 'Chichibu Beni' can't wait till 2021!
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Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Yann on December 27, 2020, 09:27:51 PM
Oh! what a beautiful red

Ranunculus serpens 'Flore pleno',found and harvested in a meadow not far away.
I am delighted by its port and its robustness.
 I determined the species myself with several flora, I hope it's good. It has a large tuber.

acris (flora pleno also exist) i think. serpens had a very short and dense hairs on large leaves. Do you've a photo of mature leaves?
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on December 28, 2020, 07:48:55 AM
Adonis amurensis 'Chichibu Beni' is so beautiful; A. Amurensis should be grown in a greenhouse?
 I have been trying to grow Adonis vernalis for several years; but I can't get it to bloom.

the small double-flowered wild Ranunuculus: I don't have a photo of leaves right away, but it is currently in leaves in the garden, unlike R. acris. so I could take a picture.
in the fall, (without seeing her) a botanist friend told me that it would be R. nemorosus, rather than Serpens which would be very limited in distribution, from where I found it. (Aine)

Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 28, 2020, 11:49:25 AM
Adonis amurensis 'Chichibu Beni' is so beautiful; A. Amurensis should be grown in a greenhouse?
 I have been trying to grow Adonis vernalis for several years; but I can't get it to bloom.

the small double-flowered wild Ranunuculus: I don't have a photo of leaves right away, but it is currently in leaves in the garden, unlike R. acris. so I could take a picture.
in the fall, (without seeing her) a botanist friend told me that it would be R. nemorosus, rather than Serpens which would be very limited in distribution, from where I found it. (Aine)
Véronique, Adonis vernalis likes to have some sun to flower well!

Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Hans J on December 28, 2020, 12:26:33 PM
Véronique ,

in my area flowering Adonis vernalis free in nature :

https://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10507.msg277088#msg277088

Greetings
Hans
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Catwheazle on December 28, 2020, 03:03:02 PM
What are the differences in the needs of Adonis vernalis and Adonis amurensis?

greetings
Bernd
- no gardening today - lot of snow :-(
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 28, 2020, 04:11:18 PM
What are the differences in the needs of Adonis vernalis and Adonis amurensis?

greetings
Bernd
- no gardening today - lot of snow :-(
Bernd, here in our garden in Belgium, Adonis vernalis needs more sun than Adonis amurensis. Both like humus and permeable soil.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Catwheazle on December 28, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
 Thanks :-)
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on December 29, 2020, 07:17:45 AM
I have never seen Adonis vernalis[/ i] in natura; that's wonderful!
I may have a shade problem, but also slugs, alas.
 what is extraordinary is how it looked like Paeonia tenuifolia, when it  was only flowering here. With its terminal button, only the shade of green of the foliage differentiated it, then obviously the flower afterwards.

 I must undoubtedly change its place: before it grows again this spring?

  are you growing Adonis amurensis outdoors?
 I like these plants which bloom in winter, but here their winter flowers are often damaged by the rain.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on December 29, 2020, 08:03:49 AM
wild Ranunculus flore pleno

acris (flora pleno also exist) i think. serpens had a very short and dense hairs on large leaves. Do you've a photo of mature leaves?


here are the photos of the plant at the moment,
 the one in the ground
then a 'bulb' that I transplanted into a pot during its rest period in August: a little enriched soil makes it make larger leaves (10 cm pot)
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 29, 2020, 11:31:22 AM
I have never seen Adonis vernalis[/ i] in natura; that's wonderful!
I may have a shade problem, but also slugs, alas.
 what is extraordinary is how it looked like Paeonia tenuifolia, when it  was only flowering here. With its terminal button, only the shade of green of the foliage differentiated it, then obviously the flower afterwards.

 I must undoubtedly change its place: before it grows again this spring?

  are you growing Adonis amurensis outdoors?
 I like these plants which bloom in winter, but here their winter flowers are often damaged by the rain.
Véronique, if there is no frost I would change the place of Adonis vernalis (take a big clump).
At the moment following Adonissen are in the garden without winter protection: Adonis amurensis, Adonis amurensis ‘Plena’, Adonis amurensis 'Fukujukai', Adonis brevistyla, Adonis cyllenea, Adonis amurensis 'Hime Shinano', Adonis multiflora, Adonis vernalis, Adonis volgensis.
I already use now slug pellets around the place were the Adonnissen stand to protect the buds. In the garden there can also be some damage at the flowers in spring when there is too much rain.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Yann on December 29, 2020, 03:49:40 PM
wild Ranunculus flore pleno


here are the photos of the plant at the moment,
 the one in the ground
then a 'bulb' that I transplanted into a pot during its rest period in August: a little enriched soil makes it make larger leaves (10 cm pot)

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Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on December 29, 2020, 04:11:34 PM
Thank you for these beautiful photos Yann.
 it is sometimes spotted with brown, but it's not R. acris, that's for sure, I have this one too, and its vegetative cycle is not at the same period.

 the leaf is less cut up than serpens, which would rather give R nemorosus, then, as my friend from the botanical garden suggested to me (with a description without seeing it!)
 (I arrived in serpens with my local flora, but I must have been wrong)
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Yann on December 30, 2020, 08:17:36 AM
answer is few months with flowers and fruits pods
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Leena on December 30, 2020, 11:37:50 AM
Herman's Adonis amurensis 'Chichibu Beni' is wonderful colour!

A. Amurensis should be grown in a greenhouse?

Here normal A.amurensis grows well outside in my woodland beds, semishade, and they flower when spring comes in April. They are very hardy, I think.
I had once A.vernalis, it grew in sunny spot but died in one wet winter. It flowered a month later than A.adonis.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 30, 2020, 12:09:25 PM
Herman's Adonis amurensis 'Chichibu Beni' is wonderful colour!

Here normal A.amurensis grows well outside in my woodland beds, semishade, and they flower when spring comes in April. They are very hardy, I think.
I had once A.vernalis, it grew in sunny spot but died in one wet winter. It flowered a month later than A.adonis.
Lena, Adonis vernalis flowers here in April.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Leena on December 30, 2020, 04:38:59 PM
Herman, what is the order when your Adonis flower? Do orange ones flower before normal A.adonis?
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 30, 2020, 08:05:01 PM
Herman, what is the order when your Adonis flower? Do orange ones flower before normal A.adonis?
Leena, anyway they need sunlight to open, the last days it was dark weather, so the flowers stay closed.
In the garden, here are the flowering Months and the order:
Adonis amurensis (January), Adonis amurensis 'Hime Shinano' (February), Adonis multiflora (February), Adonis amurensis 'Fukujukai' (February), Adonis amurensis ‘Plena’ (March), Adonis cyllenea (April), Adonis volgensis (April), Adonis vernalis (April), Adonis brevistyla (May).
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on December 31, 2020, 07:03:48 AM
Herman
 you have a remarkable collection.
 you also manage to sow them too? i already had 3 seedlings from seeds, but i killed them ..
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 31, 2020, 08:46:27 AM
Herman
 you have a remarkable collection.
 you also manage to sow them too? i already had 3 seedlings from seeds, but i killed them ..
Véronique, no much experience with seeds. This year I have sown some Adonissen in April from my own seeds. Now it is waiting if they will germinate.
Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Leena on December 31, 2020, 09:10:41 AM
In the garden, here are the flowering Months and the order:
Adonis amurensis (January), Adonis amurensis 'Hime Shinano' (February), Adonis multiflora (February), Adonis amurensis 'Fukujukai' (February), Adonis amurensis ‘Plena’ (March), Adonis cyllenea (April), Adonis volgensis (April), Adonis vernalis (April), Adonis brevistyla (May).

Herman, thank you! There seems to be a lot of variation in flowering time even in A.amurensis. Do you think the orange named cultivars are more tender than normal A.amurensis or are they as hardy?

Title: Re: Ranunculaceae 2020
Post by: Herman Mylemans on December 31, 2020, 12:54:13 PM
Herman, thank you! There seems to be a lot of variation in flowering time even in A.amurensis. Do you think the orange named cultivars are more tender than normal A.amurensis or are they as hardy?
Leena, I am not sure about the hardiness. It still stands in pot because it is an expensive plant. In Belgium the winters are very unstable concerning temperature and rainfall. When the buds are still closed they are hardy but a combination of frost and a lot of rain may damage the flower. Now we have a week with temperature below 5°C . After next week it may be above 10°C. There is also the problem of slugs, who love the buds. Some people put a glass dome above the flower for protection others leave them outside in pot and bring them inside when the buds are appearing. At the right moment you need dry sunny weather  and then Adonis is at his best! The flowers in April and May are usally more beautiful because the weather is usually more stable.
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