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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Yann on February 15, 2020, 07:43:03 PM
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mid february and the first tulips are blooming outside and under glass ::)
Tulipa cretica from seeds i collected in 2006, i hope the flowers gonna open a few more.
On another batch the flowers faded 24h after opening and most aborted, quite normal for young bulbs.
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16°C today not bad except the storm.
Tulipa clusiana f. cashmeriana, a beauty protected from the unleashed elements
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This is a selection from Paul Christian of Tulipa atchinsonii clusianoides from Afghanistan. The flowers start off more cup-shaped but after a day or two open out to flat stars.
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another very nice tulip, i sown it this autumn results (may be) in 8 years :P
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I was very happy tuesday to see the first flowers of Tulipa lemmersii, from Kurt Vickery seeds sown in 2014. Patience is rewarded!
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In the greenhouse almost all tulips are already faded :o
Tulipa montana var. chrysantha now widely offered
Tulipa turkestanica, the last group in bloom in the garden ???
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Tulipa aitchisonii clusianoides
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Cracking form there! Is that also the Paul Christian clone?
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Many thanks Rob.
Yes I got this from PC some years ago. It has clumped up nicely.
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Tulipa aitchisonii clusianoides
Do you grow them in the garden?
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No Yann. We have too much Summer rain here for most Tulips.
These are pot-grown plunged in a sand bed in a cold frame. The bulbs aren’t large but they do tend to clump up.
I don’t have a large collection of Tulips but I have started to grow more from seed. I have a small range of young plants coming on from Kurt Vickery seed. All have germinated well and are growing on nicely. Some should flower in the next year or two. Covered sand beds seem to work well with them here.
The one Tulip I struggle with is Tulipa humilis pulchella albocaerulea oculata. They are mass-produced by Dutch growers yet I cannot get them to flower in subsequent years after purchase. They just seem to get smaller and less vigorous with each year.
Any suggestions?
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No Yann. We have too much Summer rain here for most Tulips.
These are pot-grown plunged in a sand bed in a cold frame. The bulbs aren’t large but they do tend to clump up.
I don’t have a large collection of Tulips but I have started to grow more from seed. I have a small range of young plants coming on from Kurt Vickery seed. All have germinated well and are growing on nicely. Some should flower in the next year or two. Covered sand beds seem to work well with them here.
The one Tulip I struggle with is Tulipa humilis pulchella albocaerulea oculata. They are mass-produced by Dutch growers yet I cannot get them to flower in subsequent years after purchase. They just seem to get smaller and less vigorous with each year.
Any suggestions?
The photo shows a collection of the species from Iran.
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Tulipa aitchisonii var. clusianoides in the rockgarden. The bulbs stay in place all year.
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Tulipa binutans in the greenhouse
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Tulipa kolpakowskiana from Kazakhstan.
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I have this one as Tulipa tschimganica, grown from seed.
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Tulipa julii, from Armenia
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Wow! That‘s quite a sizeable flower for such a short tulip!
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Tulipa julii, from Armenia
........ and vert pretty it is too Yann
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yeah i like this one, i've other bulbs in the garden and the plants will reach 10-12 max in the following days.
From the late Zhirair, Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Gracia'
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From the late Zhirair, Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Gracia'
I'm taking time to pause and remember a lost friend - Zhirair was a gentle soul and a good friend even though we never met in person. I miss him.
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Indeed he was a great and generous guy!
a few more: Tulipa kurdica and Tulipa dubia 'Beldersai'
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I'm taking time to pause and remember a lost friend - Zhirair was a gentle soul and a good friend even though we never met in person. I miss him.
I guess many of us miss Zhirair, Maggi ! :'(
Some tulips in his memory :
Tulipa biflriformis ex Zaamin Uzbekistan
Tulipa cretica 1
Tulipa cretica 2
Tulipa neustreuvae twice
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Some more :
Tulipa berkariense
Tulipa dasystemon ex hort.
Tulipa heweri
Tulipa lemmersii
Tulipa vvedenskyi x berkariense 'Morning Star' - a cross from Janis some 20 years old.
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Lovely display Luc.
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I guess many of us miss Zhirair, Maggi ! :'(
Some tulips in his memory :
You have done him proud, Luc
cheers
fermi
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You have done him proud, Luc cheers fermi
I certainly second that. I often wonder how his wife and son are making out. Anne mentioned a fund raiser, did that ever happen?
john
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Tulipa cretica planted in the greenhouse's shade
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a few more today despite the cold wind
Tulipa fosteriana 'Mrs. Dagnija'
Tulipa kolpakowskiana red from Janis
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Very nice Luc and Yann!
Some more Tulips here:
Tulipa tschimganica -believed to be a stabilised natural hybrid of kaufmanniana and dubia.
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Tulipa clusiana cashmeriana -The flowers open widely in the Sun but are attractive both open and closed.
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Tulipa humilis Alba Caerulea Oculata -another in flower.
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Tulipa sp. -this was raised from wild collected seed. Unfortunately the label was lost. It’s an attractive compact plant with a large vivid red flower. It’s a bit of a long shot but can anyone put a name to this?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49716394057_93e8c0056a_o_d.jpg)
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I tried cashmeriana in the garden except slugs no one saw the flowers :'(
The last one is magnificent!!!
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Tulipa cretica planted in the greenhouse's shade
I cannot keep them outside Yann, tried it a few times in the past but they froze and lost them... obviously that was at the time when we still had winters...
Two wonderful reds you showed as well !
In flower here is the magic Tulipa vvednskyi x mogoltavica 'Girfriend' - changes from yellow to red as the flower ages. A cross from Janis many moons ago.
All pictures are from the same group.
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Very nice Luc and Yann!
Some more Tulips here:
Superb pix and dito tulips Steve ! Sensational !
Do you have a secret to grow Tulipa humilis Alba Caerulea Oculata and KEEP it alive ??? I tried it several times in the garden and in pots, always without positive results. Flowering the first year, smaller bulbs and no flowers the second year and gone the next... ??
The first flower on the scarlet red Tulipa montana, just about as red as it gets I guess !
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Another favourite : Tulipa kurdica
and my shortest Tulipa Cretica from Vatos, hardly 10 cm high.
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I cannot keep them outside Yann, tried it a few times in the past but they froze and lost them... obviously that was at the time when we still had winters...
protected from winter by....plastic boxes returned, cheap and dirty method but it works.
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Superb pix and dito tulips Steve ! Sensational !
Do you have a secret to grow Tulipa humilis Alba Caerulea Oculata and KEEP it alive ??? I tried it several times in the garden and in pots, always without positive results. Flowering the first year, smaller bulbs and no flowers the second year and gone the next... ??
Sorry Luc, I have had the same experience as you.
It is mass-produced in the bulb trade so hopefully someone knows the secret and can share it here. ;)
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Tulipa tarda Khirghizia
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Tulipa lemmersii
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Tulipa kaufmanniana ARJA-9748
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Ah Ralph's pots are awake, my tarda doesn't have such yellow shape where did you get it?
Tulipa x Don Cossack, it set seeds all around, i digged many 1-1.5cm bulbils all around and it's also very generous when seeds pods explode.
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A fine red Tulipa zenaidae
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Ah Ralph's pots are awake, my tarda doesn't have such yellow shape where did you get it?
Tulipa x Don Cossack, it set seeds all around, i digged many 1-1.5cm bulbils all around and it's also very generous when seeds pods explode.
I got it from Janis, Yann
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Tulipa sylvestris
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Sorry Luc, I have had the same experience as you.
It is mass-produced in the bulb trade so hopefully someone knows the secret and can share it here. ;)
Yes - compare the snap of a pot planted last autumn with one from 2017. I presumed as I have my bulbs outside some will get too wet in our summers. It's well known that large bedding tulips don't do well in later years as the bulb splits into small ones. We need someone who knows the bulb trade to enlighten us further.
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Tulipa 'Taco'
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Generous bouquet David :o
Tulipa butkovii, brick-red flower
Tulipa (T) butkovii Botschantz., Bot. Mater.
Gerb. Inst. Bot. Zool. Akad. Nauk Uzbeksk. S.S.R. 16: 8 (1961)
Holotype: UZBEKISTAN. ‘Tian-Schan Occidentalis, in
montibus Alatau Taschkendicis’, 1959, Botschantzeva3754 (TASH).
Distribution: Uzbekistan.
Note: This species is similar to T. alberti and could
be placed there in synonymy (as was carried out by Van Raamsdonk & De Vries, 1995),
but it has different anther dehiscence and is therefore maintained here, although the taxa are obviously closely
related.
Tulipa linifolia 'Apricot Jewel' under the 1PM sun definitely not good except burning colors 8)
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Tulipa dubia, ex Ouzbekistan
Tulipa clusiana 'Honky Tonk', cheapest of all clusiana but so cute
I received among an order a bag without label, if someone can help me to identify this third tulip it'll be great ???
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Neotulips are in full boom now
Tulipa planifolia (1 & 2)
Tulipa platystigma (3 & 4)
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Tulipa sedunii (1 & 2)
Tulipa didieri (3 & 4)
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Wild Tulipa sylvestris ssp. australis is well established now
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More neo tulips
Tulipa marjoletti (1 & 2)
Tulipa billietiana (3 & 4)
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And an other red one, Tulipa rubidosa
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Just some close up of the tip of external tepal of red neo tulips
Tulipa rubidosa
Tulipa planifolia
Tulipa didieri
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Tip of external tepal of yellow neo-tulips
Tulipa marjoletti
Tulipa sedunii
Tulipa bilietiana
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Just some close up of the tip of external tepal of red neo tulips
Tulipa rubidosa
Tulipa planifolia
Tulipa didieri
Great comparison
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Tulipa altaica
Could represent the northern most representative of the genus.
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likely T. lehmanniana seen north of Naratau, Uzbekistan (40.74 66.59) in flat, stony desert-like land which had been subjected to heavy grazing from goats/sheep. Lots of leaves but only 3-4 flowering plants - all similarly sized.
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Tulipa ferganica a solid performer here in N. New Jersey. Returns every year.
Could be due to it's northern habitat
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Tulipa batalinii 'Bright Gem'
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Those diligent folk in the Scottish town of North Berwick worked very hard in their efforts for NBIB - North Berwick in Bloom, taking part in the Britain in Bloom competition and supporting many other events, such as the various pallet and childrens' garden competitions at the Gardening Scotland shows. They ensure that their town is always full of flower and colour. In the Spring NBIB organise a tulip festival, with dramatic plantings of tulips of every type and colour around the town - from this page of their website, you can get a rather fine flavour of their success this year from a couple of slideshows compiled by John Reglinski .... https://www.northberwickinbloom.org/copy-of-tulip-festival-2020 (https://www.northberwickinbloom.org/copy-of-tulip-festival-2020)
Enjoy!
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Quoting Stan da Prato ( who is as heavily involved with NBIB as he is in all his many interest groups) on his photo:
North Berwick tulip festival. The pallet display with a backboard made up by local children. The tulips are now fully open. NBIB entered the pallet garden competition at Gardening Scotland ever year but sadly our national gardening show is no more.
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Tulipa orthopoda was the first to flower this year but i didn't manage to get a pic :-[
Tulipa cretica has been flowering well in a sunny rock garden
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa bakeri 'Lilac Wonder' is apparently now sunk into Tulipa saxatilis as 'Bakeri Group'.
I find the main difference between them in our garden is that it doesn't "run" as much as T. saxatilis and is a little stockier - but maybe that's because it's growing in a more exposed situation
cheers
fermi
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First flowers opening on Tulipa saxaltilis which has made quite a large patch by the rock steps
cheers
fermi
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The little Tulips which naturalise in the garden to delight us with their flowering clumps are a real joy to me!
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The little Tulips which naturalise in the garden to delight us with their flowering clumps are a real joy to me!
We enjoy them a lot, Maggi, though some are more adept at "naturalising" by "running" via stolons, especially some forms of Tulipa clusiana such as this one that is similar to 'Lady Jane' which don't have the typical purple centre
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa clusiana - the typical form with pink and white exterior and a central purple base
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa clusiana 'Tinka'
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa clusiana 'Lady Jane'
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa clusiana ex 'Tinka' grown from seed from SRGC Seedex - this form is close to its parent but another is closer to 'Cynthia'!
cheers
fermi
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Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Heart's Delight' & Tulipa stapfi
cheers
fermi
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Great display for the most northern of us
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Great display for the most northern of us
Yes, it's good to be on the Forum to see what the other Hemisphere has in flower knowing that in 6 months you'll have them too!
Here's what I've been told is Tulipa 'fergana Group' doing well in the sun yesterday
cheers
fermi
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Hello Fermi
How many leaves do you T. ferganica have? On the photos they look more an other clusiana form.
T. ferganica has commonly 3 leaves, much wider as the tulips on your photos, and more pointed tepals.
greetings
Sjaak
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Here's what I have have as T. ferganica
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Fermi: your tulip is a nameless member of the ferganica group, it is easy to see on the hairy stems ( kolpakovskiana and its alies have no hairs on the stem). I grow similair plants from the hills on south side of the fergana valley.
The name kolpakovskiana for this tulip orginate by A.D. Hall who described it in his book the genus Tulipa together with T. iliensis with is also not correct. Both tulips belong to the same species as mentioned above.
Sjaak de Groot
Hi Sjaak,
I was going by what you said in 2014 (see above), but I agree that they look more like Tulipa clusiana var chrysantha. Thanks for taking the time to let me know.
Time to re-label ;D
Here's a pic from today of a flower stem
cheers
fermi
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Sad news from Eric Breed that his uncle, Wim Lemmers, has passed away at the age of 89.
Wim Lemmers was a great plantsman commemorated by the fine plant named in his honour Tulipa lemmersii- named by Zoon, Peterse and J. de Groot in 2008 which you can read about from Vladimir Kolbintsev in this IRG from April https://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Apr281304030775IRG16_April2011.pdf
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Tulipa lemmersii
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can anyone confirm or identify what I think is tulipa didieri
Steve Clayton
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can anyone confirm or identify what I think is tulipa didieri
Steve Clayton
Hard to do from this photo - have you one of the insidie of the flower ? When did it flower?
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Don't even know if it is the same plant. Flowered in march this year. This is obv not didieri!
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This is another shot of didieri? The plant goes with 1st photo
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Don't even know if it is the same plant. Flowered in march this year. This is obv not didieri!
Not the same plant - look at the leaves.
This is another shot of didieri? The plant goes with 1st photo
I think the leaves of the first plant are too narrow for didieri :-\
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This month in International Rock Gardener 131, the free online magazine, articles include the description of a new species of tulip from Uzbekistan brought to us by J.J.(Sjaak) de Groot & K.S. Tojibaev...... pages 4-11 in this issue of IRG
https://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2020Nov291606654069IRG131.pdf
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Tulipa bactriana
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in addition to the excellent issue of the IRG:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268691464_Reassessment_of_diversity_and_analysis_of_distribution_in_Tulipa_Liliaceae_in_Uzbekistan