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Title: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on January 26, 2020, 11:36:08 AM
Here's the first one of the season: Hyacinthoides mauritanica
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on February 09, 2020, 03:46:06 PM
new ones are currently blooming : Scilla messeniaca and Scilla morrisii both from seeds (2015)
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: David Nicholson on February 09, 2020, 03:56:28 PM
Lovely little plants Yann
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 01, 2020, 05:47:55 PM
This one came as seeds labelled as Scilla monanthos and they are the earliest blooming outside but they do not have a very prominent dark mid rib on the pale blue petals.
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Mariette on March 02, 2020, 05:08:35 PM
This pure white form of Scilla bifolia was offered as weeker growing than the usual ones - in fact it looks much more substantial than the bulk of them growing in my garden.
For comparison on the left is what I got as Scilla bifolia var. taurica, a plant found growing in Crimea a long time ago, usually a much chunkier version of the ordinary Scilla bifolia. Janis Ruksans described in Buried Treasures a similar looking Scilla he discovered there - does anybody know whether they are the same?

(https://up.picr.de/37991474fh.jpg)
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on March 06, 2020, 06:19:19 PM
Scilla are at their peak

Scilla bithynica
Scilla cilicica
Scilla verna subsp. ramburii (thx Gerd)
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: annew on March 15, 2020, 11:21:26 AM
Scillas here too! Nice to have some blue :)
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on March 22, 2020, 06:04:15 AM
Scilla hohenackeri   first flowers, sown in January 2017

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Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: annew on March 22, 2020, 08:48:41 AM
Gorgeous! I love the blue pollen!
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on March 28, 2020, 06:15:00 PM
yeah this species grow so easily it should be planted in every gardens  :D

Hyacinthoides italica, it'll grow up to 25-30cm in the next days
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Tristan_He on March 31, 2020, 10:42:37 PM
Are Muscari allowed on this thread? If so...

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Muscari azureum, grown from the seedex.

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Another Muscari (is it the white form of azureum?). I think this came from IKEA of all places!

Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on April 02, 2020, 05:42:49 PM
Hyacinthoides vicentina, thanks to Yvain  :D
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 02, 2020, 06:05:29 PM
Mine are still in bud  ;)
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on April 02, 2020, 07:28:46 PM
Hyacinthoides vicentinais is beautiful !
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on April 02, 2020, 09:46:03 PM
and the perfume is   :P
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: zephirine on April 03, 2020, 09:27:39 AM
Scilla lilio-hyacynthus, native to  the Pyrénées mountains in France. Lovely large foliage and delightful blue!
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on April 03, 2020, 10:13:38 PM
A must have, it can grow in a huge range of soils and climates.
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 07, 2020, 02:18:08 PM
A must have, it can grow in a huge range of soils and climates.
And I have it  :)

Tractema lilio-hyacinthus from Massif-Central
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 07, 2020, 02:19:20 PM
Hyacinthoides italica can have very dense spike of flowers!
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 07, 2020, 02:22:25 PM
Other Scilla relatives :
Tractema monophyllos, general view and close up (from northern Portugal)
Zagrosia persica, general view and close up
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 07, 2020, 02:24:03 PM
Last one for the moment, Hyacinthoides reverchonii
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on April 07, 2020, 08:36:52 PM
Other Scilla relatives :
Tractema monophyllos, general view and close up (from northern Portugal)
Zagrosia persica, general view and close up

Nice spike for persica, do you know the geographic origin?
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 07, 2020, 10:31:04 PM
Nice spike for persica, do you know the geographic origin?
No, it comes from PaulChristian and there is no indication about the origin on the website.
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 10, 2020, 08:04:52 PM
Some more

Hyacinthoides paivae, at least, that is my identification for this Hyacinthoides from northern Portugal

Othocallis amoena
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 10, 2020, 08:15:17 PM
And Tractema (ramburei ssp.) verna from northern Spain
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Mariette on April 12, 2020, 03:30:07 PM
Othocallis amoena deserves its name, Karaba!

A find in a local wood where Hyacinthoides non-scripta grow.

(https://up.picr.de/38277031vh.jpg)
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on April 13, 2020, 12:13:35 AM
Some more

Hyacinthoides paivae, at least, that is my identification for this Hyacinthoides from northern Portugal

Othocallis amoena

Othocallis amoena is my favorite, i grow it in deep shade and got intense colors, the bulbs planted in full sun have smaller flowers.
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on April 17, 2020, 11:12:48 PM
Scilla verna subsp. ramburii, very nice form thanks to Gerd  ;)
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Karaba on April 18, 2020, 08:52:12 AM
I've some grown from Seedex seeds but still not flowering.
The taxonomy of this species is a mess with different species described from Gallicia (Tractema merinoi ), Andalousia (T. odorata), South-West France (T. umbellata) and in Spain where ramburii is quite different from verna, they have lump them in the same species !
I have now T. verna from Basque country and seedlings from Wales, ramburii from somewhere in Spain ( ;D) and would like to have some other of the Scilla verna group from the other origins.
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: ebbie on April 19, 2020, 04:58:17 PM
Muscari mirum
(https://up.picr.de/38340617yu.jpg)


Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: todd boland on April 26, 2020, 09:54:12 PM
Scilla mischtschenkoana
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Leena on April 27, 2020, 06:03:39 PM
Nice pictures.  :) That is my favourite scilla because it is an early one to flower in the spring, and it doesn't seed around too much. In fact I have never gotten seeds from my plants, maybe they need another clone to produce seeds.
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on July 14, 2020, 02:59:03 PM
Hyacinthella nervosa is in flower once again.
The scape is not very high - I can't remember if it got much taller last year

cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: ashley on August 13, 2020, 05:55:33 PM
Hyacinthoides lingulata is now emerging in the greenhouse before any watering, with leaves to follow.  However it's earlier in the garden & leaves come first (appreciated by slugs).
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 07, 2020, 02:44:26 AM
Scilla bifolia is growing in a bed which which gets some gets some irrigation and shade in summer. I think it can be a menace in milder climates but isn't invasive here
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: ashley on September 07, 2020, 04:50:41 PM
Hyacinthoides lingulata 'Alba'

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Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on September 07, 2020, 11:07:25 PM
and the blue one  ;) first bloom for these bulbs sown in 2014.
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 22, 2020, 10:15:34 AM
Hyacinthoides italica grown from seed from Betty Clarke in New Zealand (as Scilla italica)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 03, 2020, 03:44:09 PM
Scilla vincentina (now Hyacinthoides mauritanica ssp. vincentina) has flowered for the first time from bulbs bought last season from Garry Reid
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Gail on October 03, 2020, 06:45:17 PM
Quick question - I've just bought Scilla verna from Shiptons and they have arrived in leaf. Is that usual for verna?
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on November 08, 2020, 05:35:50 PM
a bit late, but yes quite normal. I've several forms producing 5-6cm leaves right now, they don't grow much more until january.

Prospero autumnale ssp. latifolia
Title: Re: Scilla and relative 2020
Post by: Yann on December 30, 2020, 05:15:05 PM
and to close 2020 Hyacinthoides mauritanica that i splitted in september in several small pots and now growing among Ranunculus creticus canopee.
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