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General Subjects => Plants Wanted Or For Exchange => Topic started by: Cephalotus on May 06, 2008, 10:27:12 PM
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Hello everybody,
does anyone know where I could get any of these species?
Aconitum moldavicum
Aconitum bucovinense
Aconitum degenii
Aconitum lasiocarpum
Gentiana/Gentianella ciliata
Gentiana frigida
Gentianella bohemica
Gentianella germanica
Gladiolus palustris
Linnaea borealis
Melittis melissophyllum
Saxifraga retusa ssp. retusa
Thank you in advance for any answer. (Last edit: 01 X 2008)
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Krzysztof from that list I can let you have a cutting of Salix reticulata but I'm not sure when they are taken for best results
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Wow, Mark, your Salix reticulata looks fantastic. Or maybe it is that species that always look great. :) Hmm, I am not sure when it is good time for taking cuttings. I must ask my cousin. Surely not the flowering parts. But if it is like other Salix species, a bit time spent in water should do it. To be honest. In all my books I have here is Nothing about this species. I do not even know what type of soil it prefers.
The owner of this plant did not agree to give me any cuttings. :-\ (Look at the Trillium seedling.)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/cephalotus/Pruhonice/IMG_6250.jpg)
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I can also provide you with a Salix reticulata plant some time during summer. And I will have seeds of Androcase lactea and Delphinium oxysepalum in the autumn. Cornus suecica is also no problem, the woods here are full of them.
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Heheh. :) Magnar, I just got used to that you have so rare species. :) I really liked that sentence: "Cornus suecica is also no problem, the woods here are full of them." In my country this species used to grow in high mountains. It is now an extinct species in my country... Still I am looking for it. :) I will be glad to have one from you. :) Also the seeds interest me very much. Many thanks!
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Heheh. :) Magnar, I just got used to that you have so rare species. :) I really liked that sentence: "Cornus suecica is also no problem, the woods here are full of them." In my country this species used to grow in high mountains. It is now an extinct species in my country... Still I am looking for it. :) I will be glad to have one from you. :) Also the seeds interest me very much. Many thanks!
I don't have to walk more than 20 meter from my doorstep to find Cornus suecia.
Here's quite a good plant from near our mountain cabin
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Cornus%20suecica.jpg)
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Oh, yes, Magnar.... "quite a good plant" indeed !! ;) ;) ::) :o 8) Pity you don't have a couple of those in pots to bring to the Aberdeen Show on Saturday 17th.... we would make you very welcome!
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Maggi, I do not see any problem. Magnar will take this huge clump and put in a pot. :D ;)
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Magnar - An awesome clump of Cornus suecica. My land in the south of Nova Scotia is covered in Cornus canadensis, in fact it is an absolute weed along with Clintonia borealis. BUT that's the species (C. suecica) I have tried to grow and never had luck sprouting the seed. Fantastic black eye.
Krzysztof - I can send you Linnaea borealis cuttings and Salix reticulata, an extremely dwarf form growing in a trough here. Mark - I could never root any of these dwarf arctic willow believe it or not, notably S. vestita. A friend sent cuttings one December and said to put them in the refrigerator in a plastic bag with a tiny bit of live sphagnum. He said if there were no signs of roots 1 month before the ones outdoors leafed out to strike them in moist sand outside. They all rooted inside and the sluggish ones outside. H esaid they have a tendency to rot in the bench using normal rooting procedures. So Krzysztof I can send between November and March. I will need a reminder with your address.
johnw
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John, could you write in other words these two sentences, I have a bit problem with understanding them. :( "He said if there were no signs of roots 1 month before the ones outdoors leafed out to strike them in moist sand outside. They all rooted inside and the sluggish ones outside." You wrote something extremely interesting to me and I want to understand it correctly. And there is never Salix reticulata too much. I will share with it to my cousin and together try to propagate it more in Poland.
John, are you interested in Pulsatilla slavica? I will have one for you for sure... If that goes so fast I will be out of P. slavica in few days. Nice. :D Certainly I need to propagate it fast! :D
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John, could you write in other words these two sentences, I have a bit problem with understanding them. :( "He said if there were no signs of roots 1 month before the ones outdoors leafed out to strike them in moist sand outside. They all rooted inside and the sluggish ones outside." You wrote something extremely interesting to me and I want to understand it correctly. And there is never Salix reticulata too much. I will share with it to my cousin and together try to propagate it more in Poland.
John, are you interested in Pulsatilla slavica? I will have one for you for sure... If that goes so fast I will be out of P. slavica in few days. Nice. :D Certainly I need to propagate it fast! :D
Krzysztof - If you get alpine Salix cuttings in the winter, put them in the refrigerator in a plastic bag with a little green sphagnum moss. Keep them there until spring. They may root in the bags. If not, root outdoors in sand. Put them out to root about 2 weeks before the Salix in your area normally leaf out. Also plants you have already in the ground, root them in sand just as they are making leaves.
Unlike other Salix these arctic ones - too long in the propagating bench causes rotting of the cuttings.
Seed of the Pulsatilla would be great.
I can send the cuttings next March or during the winter.
Here is my 10-15 year old Salix reticulata in a trough.
johnw
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John, thank you very much for explaining that method. It is really fantastic. :) Unfortunately, I do not have any material of arctic Salix species to try on. :] And please, you are killing me! This plant, Salix reticulata on your photo is more than 10 years old?! Wow, and my cousin said, after a first blink, that this is an expansive species. :D I must show here that photo. :)
I do not have any seeds of Pulsatilla slavica, or any other rare ones, but I will try to get them. :)
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I do not have any seeds of Pulsatilla slavica, or any other rare ones, but I will try to get them. :)
Krzyzstof - Do not worry about the Pulsatilla seed, I have far too many plants neglected already.
The Salix is very dwarf but it also is a trough that never gets re-planted with new soil mix (well once since 1986) or fertilized - ever!
Am quite happy just to send cuttings of whatever.
johnw
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Oh, yes, Magnar.... "quite a good plant" indeed !! ;) ;) ::) :o 8) Pity you don't have a couple of those in pots to bring to the Aberdeen Show on Saturday 17th.... we would make you very welcome!
You gave me an idea there Maggi.. may be I should.. but this year its too late ;)
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Maggi, I do not see any problem. Magnar will take this huge clump and put in a pot. :D ;)
Hehe, oh yes I could, it's growing on our property :)
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You gave me an idea there Maggi.. may be I should.. but this year its too late
There is oil base in Harstad, as in Aberdeen, Magnar, could you not hitch a lift on an oil company helicopter coming to Aberdeen? ::) ;)
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Magnar, you can fly by commercial planes for only ( :-X !!!!!!! :o) 5,432.80 NOK ! An expensive visit, I think! Maybe you have a boat ? ::)
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Hello Krzysztof,
you can get seed of the following species at Chiltern seeds ( http://www.edirectory.co.uk/chilternseeds/ )
Campanula alpina
Gladiolus palustris
Lloydia serotina
Melittis melisophyllum
Veronica fruticans
And you can find Ranunculus alpestris at Edrom nurseries ( http://www.edromnurseries.co.uk/home.asp )
Greetings
Wim
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Yeah,
I know Wim. I already tried with Lloydia serotina with two packets, with zero result. There are species that need to me sown just after seeds get ready. As I remember they send seeds about Spring. When I get them, there are low chances for germination. :/ Not even mentioning the prices. If I knew from someon that once germinated seeds of those species from them successfully... Maybe I would try than.
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I already tried with Lloydia serotina with two packets, with zero result.
Krzysztof - Norm Deno says of the Lloydia - germinates 50% in 9-11 days at 21c. At 4.5c germinates 56% in 4-11c. He doesn't mention if they are ephemeral or susceptible to drying.
johnw
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John,
I think that the built of seeds tells much about them. Lloydia seeds do not have thick skin and they are very delicate.
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Hello,
I've never tried any from seed of those species so I didn't know they were hard to propagate in that way.
I'll keep an eye out for them...
Greetings
Wim
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Hello Krzysztof! :)
You searched Glaucidium?
I can offer you seeds Glaucidium palmatum ;)
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Thank you very much Anastasia but I have already found two plants for my aunt. I was looking for this species as for a present.
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John your Salix is very small compared to mine. My plant is 50cm across after a few years - that's across the trough and down the side. The part that is down the side is 30x30cm
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John your Salix is very small compared to mine. My plant is 50cm across after a few years - that's across the trough and down the side. The part that is down the side is 30x30cm
Mark - This one was collected more than 20 years ago and stayed remarkably dwarf. Thankfully the friend who collected it gave me a few precious cuttings and a few years later it either died or was stolen. So at least there was a back-up.
Cuttings can be sent next winter if of interest and if not buried under a mountain of snow.
johnw
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Magnar,
That Cornus is fascinating. I've never come across the dwarf Cornus types here in Australia, but that one with the black eye looks like a stunner!! So many new things always appearing here on this site!! So much to lust after!! ;)
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In the woods here that Cornus is so common,, but does not often form such a nice clump as in that photo. And in the autumn it has red berries.
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Hello,
I got some seeds (+/-20) of Gladiolus palustris from a friend. If you want I could send you some.
Greetz
Wim
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Wow, thanks Wim. But what I can give you for them? Forgive me this question, but your friend is sure that it is Gladiolus palustris? Because before I will get sure it will take about 4 years. :)
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Hello,
that's ok, i don't need anything in return. If you ever find something I need, just let me know.
My friend said he is sure that it is gladiolus palustris? So, I hope he is correct.
If you PM me with you adress I'll send it to you.
Greetings
Wim
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Magnar,
another one who would really like to have Cornus suecica...
If there is one or two left in you garden.
Unfortunately I have nothing from Cephalotus wishlist but maybe you could tell me what you are searching for - I hope there is something I have.
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Magnar,
another one who would really like to have Cornus suecica...
If there is one or two left in you garden.
Unfortunately I have nothing from Cephalotus wishlist but maybe you could tell me what you are searching for - I hope there is something I have.
There is none in my garden but our woods are full of them. I will soon go collect cuttings so just let me have your address. :) I'm searching for anything I dont have that might grow up here ;)
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I see that my topic was helpful not only to me, but also to reach group of other users. ;-)
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Christoph,
I have some plants from your list. I will do my best.
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Dear Krzysztof,
If you are still looking for seed of Primula halleri, please let me know, as I have some.
Giles
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Hello Hans, could you plkease send me an e-mail with names of plants you have? That list may change a bit after I come back home.
Giles, YES I am still looking very, bery much for P. halleri! Unfortunatelly I have given away all my spare Pulsatilla slavica and I do not know what I could give you for it. I will be at home in two days. Lets talk on PM. I must end for now.
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Dear Krzysztof,
I'm delighted I can be of help.
Send me your address by 'private message' when you get back.
No need to send me anything in return.
I'm sure I speak on behalf of many forum members when I say we find your cheerful contributions a total delight,
we look forward to your future offerings, and are happy to do anything to help you on your way.
Giles
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There was not long time after I start this topic and I got so many new species. Two days ago I became a happy owner of Pulsatilla patens. Now I have to propagate this species as fast as possible. It has really fantastic leaves. I can say, that even only the leaves are attractive. I also got some seeds of Pulsatilla slavica from the only Polish locality. I have now some fresh seedlings. :D I am very thankful to all of you that helped me in collecting new species. All of them are growing very well and I hope that they will propagate easily. When I will have some spares I will share them on this forum.
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Does anyone know if Gentiana ciliata is anywhere in cultivation? I was searching for this species for some time in internet and I couldn't find anyone growing this plant or any shop offering it. Can it be possible, that it is not yet in cultivation? I just cannot believe that.