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		General Subjects => Travel / Places to Visit  => Topic started by: ranunculus on May 05, 2008, 08:17:19 PM
		
			
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				A few images captured on a grey sultry early May afternoon at the duo of gardens very kindly opened for the fortunate members of the East Lancashire Group of the AGS..
 Our first visit was to the beautiful garden of Ken and Mavis Meekings in Bolton and the second was to the delightful garden of SRGC (and Forum) stalwarts Brian and Shelagh Smethurst in Bury.
 Many thanks to both the couples for their generosity and for all their hard work…hope you enjoy these few random images.
 
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				Final images from the garden visits this Bank Holiday...
 
 Apologies to Brian and Shelagh for the numerically fewer images of their delightful garden...I was going to take some more but I got distracted by the coffee, biscuits and gardening conversation...
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				Ah Cliff,
 
 You have slumped right to the pits in my opinion. Imagine visiting a garden and settling for the tea and biscuits. Cliff, that really is the pits. You have just gone off the scale.
 
 But, I forgive you as you have, as ever, produced the good which matter to us on the  forum - good photographs. Lovely gardens, exceptional standard of maintenance.
 
 Many thanks, Paddy
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				Thanks very much for showing us around these delightful gardens Cliff !
 Many congrats to both owners with these immaculate little (?) gardening pearls !  The word brilliant comes to mind... !  :D
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				Two beautiful gardens, obviously time goes slower in Bolton/Bury than it does in Devon, I could never reach that kind of standard if a laboured 24 hours a day, every day. Thanks for posting Cliff but you've caused me much grief, Maureen said 'why isn't ours like those' ???
			
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				Your answer to THAT David, is right there at the top of the page. These gardens belong to Ken AND MAVIS and to Brian AND SHELAGH. You could suggest that when yours belongs to David AND MAUREEN, i.e. with Maureen doing a fair share of the work....... ;D 
			
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				This level of maintenance is what I strive to achieve, but always, always fail miserably at.  And so very nicely planted, and beautifully laid out.  
 
 But that one plant, Geissorhiza (? sorry, my spelling probably wrong) is quite wonderful, such a rich blue.  Never seen it before, and its not a genus listed in the Plantfinder, do tell us more about it....
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				Your answer to THAT David, is right there at the top of the page. These gardens belong to Ken AND MAVIS and to Brian AND SHELAGH. You could suggest that when yours belongs to David AND MAUREEN, i.e. with Maureen doing a fair share of the work....... ;D 
 
 
 I knows my place Lesley, it's more than my life's worth! ;D
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				Ah well David, you'll have to take the flak then. :)
			
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				The pretty little South African Geissorhiza was in the greenhouse of Brian and Shelagh Smethurst (and probably looks considerably larger than it should), so I will leave it to 'Our very own Black Pudding Girl' to provide all the info'.
			
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				Clif,
 
 Great pics.  I'd forgotten just how nice a good lawn can look...... a very rare commodity now-a-days here as our water restrictions do not allow lawn watering with anything other than recycled/tank water and rain etc. A lush lawn is just SO green!!  :o  Lovely gardens, both of them.  Well done to the owners.
 
 Geissorhiza is a South African genus, some relatively short lived while others (such as monanthos) are relatively permanent (mine has now existed here for at least 6 years or so).  The blue IS lovely, both in the pictures and in person.  Some of the other species in the genus can be strong reds, or red and blue combinations.  Very, very striking in many cases, while some other species can be small blue flowers that are nice but nothing to write home about.  8)
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				Thanks Cliff for coming and eating the biscuits and cake.  Since Brian did so much weeding and tidying I think I must correct Cliff's omissions and post a few pictures of our garden.  The Geissorhiza monanthos was from Silverhill seed sown on 29.6.04. It did flower last year, but although there is plenty of 'grass' in the pot there is only one flowering size stalk.  It is very affected by the sun and on Sunday which was dull for the most part it was never fully open, in todays wonderful sunshine it is so I am posting it in all its glory.
			
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				Congratulations to the Meekings and the Smethursts on getting their premises  in such great condition for their visitors and for their generosity in opening their gardens to us all here, as well. ;)
 
 
 My word, Shelagh, your garden is looking " jist smashin' "  8)   Loads of colour and interest and not a weed in sight..... Brian can't spare a week or two to work that magic up here, can he?  ::) ;D I know he likes a challenge....... ;)
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				Shelagh,
 
 I have read many times that a keen gardener will face the difficulty eventually of deciding on having  a plant collection or a garden, that it is nigh impossible to have a wide range of diverse plants and still maintain a unity of design in the garden. When I recall whom it was wrote along those lines I shall forward your photographs as you demonstrate so clearly that an excellent plant collection can be displayed within a very pleasing design. Yours strikes me as an excellent garden with fabulously interesting and beautiful plants while you have still kept a firm hand on the overall layout. A great job done indeed.
 
 David and Lesley,
 
 Your comments on maintenance, weeding etc. reminded me of the shocked and amazed face on the lady who asked me while visiting the garden here how I kept it weed free. I told her that it was very simple; that I set the alarm for 6a.m. each morning so that my wife could have the time to do the weeding before getting my breakfast. She really looked at me and wondered what kind of monster she had encountered. I kept the straight face and left her wondering.
 
 Paddy
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				Thanks very much for the extra's of your garden Shelagh !
 A great display of a wonderful diversity !
 Beautiful !  :D
 
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				Thanks for the info on the Gizzo, Shelagh, what a stunning plant.  Must try that one.  I'm a great fan of S African plants anyway....  Well done flowering it in just 4 years. Not bad.  I'm still waiting patiently for a flower on my Scilla natalensis, seed sown 2001 I think.  Bulb is getting pretty big now though.  Also Silverhills.
			
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				2 weeks ago we visited the garden of Klaus Patzner in Bavaria,situated beside a very busy street.
 The elevation is about 700 m above sea level with reliable snow cover in winter.Situated in full sun
 he is able to cultivate many 'goodies',even Paeonia cambessedesii since many years.
 Degenia velebitica sowed itself in the rainshade of the neighboured house and flowered profusely. An enormous Rhodothamnus chamaecistus was another surprise for us rockgardeners.
 This floral paradise was founded about 30 years ago.
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				That is one impressive garden!
			
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				A wonderful garden, Rudi. Thank you for this visit to Klaus' lovely rock garden... complete with his own "mountains"  8)
 The Rhodothamnus chamecistus is a marvel... what a superb plant it is. I am jealous :-X
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				Utterly magnificent Rudi...please pass on our compliments to a supreme grower.
			
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				Utterly magnificent Rudi...please pass on our compliments to a supreme grower.
 
 Grower and  designer, I think.... great style to the rock outcrops and planting  8)
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				A brilliant garden and in such an unlikely setting, with the cars whizzing by, right beside it. Such an outstanding Rhodothamnus, and a fantastic group of Degenia. Two plants I struggle with I'm afraid. Good for my soul to see what they REALLY should look like. My thanks too please, to Mr Platzner.
			
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				The large size of the Rhodothamnus reminds me of the advice given to us by Lyn Bezzant ( who can be seen in Sandy Leven's Dunblane Show Report in the main website... here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/shows/stirling/report.html )
 Lyn said she divided her plant, when necessary ( !!!!!!) by cutting across it with an old bread knife.... ::) :o :o   Sadly, we have never felt the need to reduce or divide our plants that way, so I cannot say if this method would work for us... I can only wish we had  big, bold plants like Klaus Patzner !
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				Sounds a bit like having to slice one's Picasso in half because it wouldn't fit in the space over the mantlepiece.   :o :o :o  (And NO I don't have a Picasso.)
			
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				Sounds a bit like having to slice one's Picasso in half because it wouldn't fit in the space over the mantlepiece.   :o :o :o  (And NO I don't have a Picasso.)
 
 
 Tee Hee!
 Actually, Lyn's reason for taking the bread knife to her plants were always to make new plants to give away  8)
 She is a generous lady as well as a great grower!
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				Rudi, that is a beautiful alpine garden.
 Klaus seems to know a lot about plants, but even more he knows about rocks,
 which is so important when making such a garden on a smaller scale!
 The plants are great too.
 Would be worth to make a detour when driving south to the Alps.
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				Beautiful gardens and beautiful plants, thanks for posting them folks!
 I can think of no pleasanter a pastime, than to visit a lovely garden on a Sunday afternoon/evening, to chat with like-minded people, and to enjoy the plants, and the tea and biscuits. Some of my happiest and most treasured memories are of doing just this. Sadly, some of these people have passed on; and with them their gardens, but they live on in ones memory and in the pictures taken on such events.
 
 Do try and visit as many of these garden open days as you can, and do take your camera along with you and just take loads of pictures. Sometimes we are given a choice plant by the garden host, and we should always treasure these gifts, for in years to come, your memories will be rekindled anew when such a plant blooms yet again!
 
 There are some great plants in this forum.... :)
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				Reasonably quiet on the forum this evening so I will take the opportunity to post a series of images captured today (24th May 2008) at a garden in Carrington, Manchester.  The Vicarage garden (and small garden centre) is under threat of closure due to the Charity Commission threatening to withdraw it's charitable status (rules have been changed quite recently) and this beautiful resource for the disabled, for gardeners and for nature lovers in the Manchester area is now under serious threat.  The 5 acre site is run by a Christian Community and they maintain a very beautiful garden that is an oasis of peace and quiet in an otherwise industrialised and urbanised sprawl.  The garden is free to visit and highly reommended if you happen to be in the area.
 As I only spent an hour or so in the gardens this sunny (but incredibly windy) morning I am unable to supply names for the plants but, as many are extremely common, then you will possibly not require them?
 Hope you enjoy.
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				Batch Two from the Vicarage Garden, Manchester...
			
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				Batch Three from Vicarage Gardens, Manchester....
			
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				Batch Four from Vicarage Gardens, Manchester...
			
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				Batch Five from Vicarage Gardens, Manchester...
 
 
 More to follow in the fullness of time....
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				Cliff
 Beautiful pictures of a wonderful garden.  Hope it will continue
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				Great show, Cliff.
 
 Paddy
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				Thanks for the kind comments.
 Batch Six from Vicarage Gardens, Manchester...
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				Final batch from Vicarage Garden, Manchester...
 
 I particularly like the bog garden in the final picture ... as long as it isn't in MY back yard!!!   :)
 
 
 The community at the Vicarage need letters of support to prove to the Charity Commission that the gardens have 'public benefit' i.e. 'That you (or someone you brought to the gardens) have found a special or inner peace there'.
 I am not (in any way) a religious person but I intend to support their efforts to keep this haven open.
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				A really beautiful place.  The only proof the Charity Commissioners need is to go and look at the place themselves !!
			
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				Thanks for the photoe, Cliff. It's a beautiful garden with a wonderful selection of plants!! It can only do good, I am sure!
 
 (Today's Giro stage starts from Arabba! Unfortunately not so much of it on TV today here because of the tennis)
 
 Chloë
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				Beautiful garden Cliff. I love those Ceanothus. Alas not much seen in our country.
 I hope the garden will remain!
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				Those dark eyed Rhodos are brilliant. Was the fan-tail nesting at eye level?
			
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				Many thanks for the kind comments folks!
 
 Mark ... the fantail was nesting at about 15 feet above the ground ... I managed to stand on a low wall to take the shot.
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				Returned to the Vicarage Garden today to let my toddler grandson see the animals in the 'petting' zoo ... took a few more images that may be of interest?
			
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				More from the Vicarage Gardens...
			
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				...And a few more from the Vicarage...
			
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				The final shots from the Vicarage... AMEN!
			
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				What a beautiful garden and how wonderfully you have photographed it.
			
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				Stunning pictures Cliff !
 What a grand place - I hope it is saved !
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				Very very beautiful pics everyone! I liked this thread very much, I hope it will continue. :)
 Nowadays I have little time for the Forum  :'(, so I have a lot to read, and it is still very slow here  :(
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				Nowadays I have little time for the Forum  , so I have a lot to read, and it is still very slow here   Kata, I am glad you are able to "visit" sometimes... we miss you! The slow Forum is very irritating for us all, I know. I do hope for some more improvement.
 
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				I have been asked if there are anything else in flower after the Rhododendrons and similar species are over in the gardens I have featured in the Rhododendron section.  The answer is yes, although I have concentrated in these specialist gardens.  For a change, I thought I would show what Threave gardens was like yesterday.  This is a garden owned by the National Trust for Scotland and is next to the small town of Castle Douglas in the South West of the country.  It also has a residential school for training gardeners who can practice their newly acquired skills on site.  The plantings are beautifully arranged and the grounds are kept immaculate, no doubt due to the high numbers of trainee staff who are desperate to get low down and dirty.  I wonder if they will be as keen 40 years on !!.  I had the pictures in chronological order but when I try to post them, the system jumbles them up.
 This will also be a marathon session as there are over 30 pictures.
 
 Checking spelling errors !!
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				I have spent about 30 minutes trying to post some more pictures in Garden visits but it keeps rejecting the postings.  I am trying this without pictures to see if it will take.
			
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				Obviously it is something to do with the pictures.  I will give it one more try.
			
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				Wonderful pictures Tom.  I particularly like the pictures of the mix of shades of candelabra primulas.... what a fantastic display.  Oh to have seed from that lot!!  ;D
 
 Cliff,
 
 Lovely pics from the Vicarage.  Here's hoping that they're able to retain it.  Looks like a wonderful place.  I'm trying to work out where I can fit a bog garden like that here in my garden!!  ;)
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				Thank you so much Tom, for these wonderful pictures.
 Now it's very clear to me, that a bit later in the year the gardens are
 much more beautiful. We were two years ago just too early (or too late
 for the early flowers.)
 So this garden will come on my list again, though I was a little disappointed
 when I was there in '06, but I had seen pictures 30 years ago and at that time there was
 a very interesting rock garden and there were beautiful raised beds, which style
 I since have tried to copy in my garden.
 When going there mostly therefore it's understandable that I was a bit
 disappointed when almost nothing of this was to see there.
 
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				Not looking in at the forum regularly has the disadvantage of leading to retinal over-indulgence on return. What a tremendous run of photographs from Cliff and Tom. Many thanks to both of you.
 
 Cliff, your photographs of the semi-demolished outdoor facilites reminds me of the description a friend from Missouri uses regularly to describe a well built person, though your photographs does make a lie of it, "as solid as a brick-built s..t house"
 
 Paddy
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				I am as affected by the physical space and structure of a garden as by the plants.
 
 Judy Wall is the owner of Rock Wall Gardens---the only alpine nursery in our area.
 She and her husband have created a beautiful space in Ontario farm country, although you might imagine you were elsewhere.
 
 The tower is an old stone silo, and the stone foundation from the old barn was left, and now forms the framework for the plants, the troughs, the artwork and Judy's beautiful stained glass.
 
 So while there are plenty of plants and gardens, this does not focus of them, but rather intended as a stroll through a magical place....
 
 
 
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				and this is the "interior area" of the walls with just a few of Judy's creations.
 
 the last picture is Judy herself, next to the newest addition (the stone table) in the customer sitting area.
 
 
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				Very nice Kristl, must tell some friends about this one....
			
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				On the weekend of the great forum crash I posted the following article and accompanying images ... just a little bit of whimsy actually.  The drastic problems with the forum resulted in both article and photos going missing ... Maggi kindly requested that I repost ... so never one to refuse a lady, here goes....
 
 
 
 Just experienced a surreal Bank Holiday afternoon in sunny Cheshire (U.K.) and thought I might share some of the images captured on the day.  Started brightly with another brief (but very pleasant) visit  to Vicarage Gardens (see earlier in this topic) - fortunately still trading and continuing to maintain some lovely borders.  Thirty  plus images from these gardens will commence this posting.  After a  pub lunch by the canal side in Lymm we visited Willow pool garden  centre and reclamation yard (www.willowpool.co.uk) - designed by  Man Ray and Jean Miro, built by Salvador Dali and jointly owned by  Max Ernst and Yves Tanguy (or so it would appear) this  'fantastic' (and yes, Mr Smethurst, I have considered the use of  this word) emporium is a sight for sore eyes (as Mr Dolland and Mr  Aitchison might confirm).
 From the relic Blackpool illuminations outside the entrance to the  rows of asylum bathtubs in the ornamental pots arcade; from the  crumbling fairground sideshows to the assembly of ancient bikes and  perambulators in an old fernery; from an enormous (and startlingly  blue) 'my little pony' to some BEAUTIFUL stone sinks just waiting  to be planted; from the rows of bamboo native dining 'alcoves' in  the restaurant area to the yellow Reliant Robin perched on the  roof ... I could go on!
 If you are in the vicinity of Lymm, have a stiff drink and  visit ... many did on Monday last but how many left with their  brains or wallets intact is another matter!!!
 Images by Alberto Giacometti and Marcel Duchamp to follow at the  end of this posting! :D   Enjoy!
 
 
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 MORE TO FOLLOW IN THE MORNING
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				Thank you, Cliff. These bright shots of sunny flowers are especially warming when the weather here is so cold and wet.....does the heart good to see all those hot shades!
			
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				Thanks Cliff - brilliant pictures as usual !
 Please visit more gardens so that we can see more of these beauties...  ;D
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				Thanks folks ... next batches as promised!
			
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				Another batch from Willow Pool ...
			
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				Final batch from the surreal Willow pool...
			
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				Another slightly surreal experience (could it be me) last weekend when we supported the Whitworth Rushbearing ... "The Whitworth what?"; I hear you ask!
 A centuries old tradition involving the replacement of the flooring material (the rushes) in all the local churches. Traditionally held on the first Sunday in September, the parade includes local brass bands, dancing troupes, a large float (the rushcart) draped in the new rushes (or, in the case of the Whitworth cart, heather from the local moors), ribald drinking, eating and general merriment (with the police on hand to control the few less than solid citizens).
 
 The costumed torsos and blackened faces belong to the world-famous Britannia Coconutters:-
 
 Every Easter Saturday, no matter what the weather, the Britannia Coconut Dancers, with their blackened faces, hats like turbans decorated with rosette and coloured feathers, black jersey, red and white kilts, white stockings and shining black Lancashire clogs make a gradely sight as, accompanied by members of Stacksteads Silver Band, they keep up the tradition of dancing from boundary to boundary of the town of Bacup situated between Rochdale and Burnley. http://coconutters.co.uk/
 
 Not being a religious soul, I was more interested in the spectacle than the significance ... but here are ten images to give you a general idea....
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				I've heard of croconutters but never of Coconutters Cliff !  ;D
 Thanks for introducing them !
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				It's just the kind of thing 'Lancies' like to do. We Yorkshiremen are much better at wholesome pursuits http://www.yorkshirefirst.co.uk/denbydale/history2.html
 
 Great set of pictures Cliff, takes me back to the Sunday School Whit Walks and the Saddleworh Band Festival.
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				Just found this page. Beautiful plant pictures Cliff.
 And very interesting to see the other pictures of the Garden Centre.
 Had a look at their site, so I wonder if you saw some plants there too?
 
 Sorry, there are no items currently available for sale in this section That's what I saw when looking which plants they were selling there... ;D ;D 8)
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				Cliff
 
 I never knew you had so much fun 'up north'.  You have captured the moment  :) ;D :)
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				They certainly had plants for sale Luit ... but, I must admit, I didn't buy anything!
 
 Thanks for the kind comments everyone.
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				Thank you for the interesting pictures Cliff
			
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				Another brief visit to Vicarage Gardens at Carrington, Manchester (see other references on earlier pages in this topic) on Sunday 26th May 2009.  A warm spring day and quite a range of plants in flower ... I will simply entitle this posting; 'Images of Vicarage Gardens' ...
			
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				Another brief visit to Vicarage Gardens at Carrington, Manchester (see other references on earlier pages in this topic) on Sunday 26th May 2009. ...  
 Did you go in the Tardis (i.e. I think you meant April)?
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				It is called 'grandchild pressure' Alan ... I have a three year old grandson all over me as I am typing (and few remaining brain-cells)!
			
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 Lovely photos as always Cliff.
 
 
 Eric
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				Whatever the date - it's another wonderful series of pix Cliff !  ;)
 A very nice looking garden !
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				Cliff
 
 Wonderfull photos again.  8) 8) 8)
 
 Eric
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				Thanks Luc and Eric ... unfortunately they aren't attracting many viewers.
			
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				Thanks Luc and Eric ... unfortunately they aren't attracting many viewers.
 
 
 I wonder why. :o :o :o
 
 Eric
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 I wonder why. :o :o :o
 
 Eric
 
 
 Me too..... might it be the lack of text and  names for the pix/plants? The pages are getting quite a lot of visitors, but they're not clicking on the pix to enlarge them  :-\
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				Put a giraffe in there. ;D
			
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 Me too..... might it be the lack of text and  names for the pix/plants?
 
 
 It's a minefield trying to name plants without official labels being available ... I can't imagine that is the sum of the problem?  Perhaps the images are too obvious without having to open them or they aren't 'alpine' enough ... I noticed the same effect with some images I posted from Florida ... not too surprising, I suppose, on a site devoted to rock and alpine gardening!   ;D
 
 Lesley, I had ordered a giraffe from Amazon, but they are directing me towards the Zambezi ...!   ::)
 
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				Cliff,
 
 If I may make a comment on the lack of viewers for the photographs. You post exactly the same type of photograph which I have in the camera on return from a garden visit. At some stage, Mary will ask to see the photographs I took at the garden; I'll put them up on the computer and she will complain that they don't show the garden at all just the flowers in the garden. I think it is a weakness of a person with a keen interest in plants to see the plants but not the garden and direct the lens at the individual plants rather than at the general scene, the general layout of the garden, the overall view. This is what she tells me anyhow and I couldn't possibly disagree.
 
 Paddy
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				A very interesting theory, Paddy ... of course I wouldn't know about this as Sue doesn't want to look at the pictures at all!   ;D ;D
 I do tend to concentrate on individual plants for my own pleasure (much as one does in the wild), but I hope I also keep my eyes open for general, scenic, landscape and fun options where appropriate.  I think a camera is simply an extension of one's own field of vision - some see the big picture, some the minutiae, some the quirky ... and some just a little bit blurred.   :D
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				Cliff, when I saw it was you on a Garden visit I clicked on the thread immediately  ;) Your photos as always are truly lovely and although I did not click on them all there were several I had to and these were for the colours and composition more than the actual flower itself...however, I do agree that words can draw a Viewer in to share the experience as well and I thought that you might have gleaned some amusing ones from your grandson as he was obviously feeling left out  ;D
			
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				Robin ... he has already complained to his parents ... "No toys in gwandad's garden ... lots pots" and; "No pway ball at gwandads - he fwikened."  
 
 Not yet three years old ...  ;D
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				Robin ... he has already complained to his parents ... "No toys in gwandad's garden ... lots pots" and; "No pway ball at gwandads - he fwikened."  
 
 Not yet three years old ...  ;D
 
 Love the lingo  ;D
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				Hi Cliff, I really enjoy your pictures but dare I suggest that we should all be very busy working in our gardens, please keep posting the pictures, cheersIan the Christie kind.
			
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				Cliff, my excuse is, as usual, not enough spare time to look through all the pictures in detail. I tend to enlarge a few which, curiously, tend to be the ones I have in the garden. Probably the competitor in me saying are they better than mine. What did strike me though were some curious relative timing things. My Gunnera is well ahead of the one you showed, Darmera peltata about the same but their Rodgersia aesculifolia (the chances of that spelling being correct are slim) is weeks ahead of mine!
 
 Anyway, I must get back to tonight's priority jobs and, sadly, the forum isn't on the list
 
 cheers
 
 Martin
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				Cliff
 I enjoyed the photos and when I saw that You commented on the lack of viewers I realized that I had not clicked them. When there is photos of plants sometime there is not much need to enlarge them if one just want to see the garden. In more of overview pics it might be need to enlarge it to see it but for many plant photos there is not always a need to enlarge, especially if the photos are good.
 Maybe a slight miss not to enlarge them but I enjoyed this trip very much so take it as a complement that the photos does not need to be enlarged to be enjoyable. Sometimes the tumbnails are so strange that one need to enlarge to view and that is taking long time especially if there is a lot of them.
 
 Kind regards
 Joakim
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				Another brief escape from the Turkey postings ...
 
 And a return visit to Vicarage Gardens in Manchester.  It was a glorious day in the North-West of England today and my itchy camera finger needed scratching, so I spent an hour at these lovely gardens and shot exactly 110 shots ... you will get to see 85 of them if my posting eyes can remain open long enough.
 The paragraph below accompanied my first posting from the gardens way back in May 2008 - subsequent visits are also in this thread.
 
 Reasonably quiet on the forum this evening so I will take the opportunity to post a series of images captured today (24th May 2008) at a garden in Carrington, Manchester.  The Vicarage garden (and small garden centre) is under threat of closure due to the Charity Commission threatening to withdraw it's charitable status (rules have been changed quite recently) and this beautiful resource for the disabled, for gardeners and for nature lovers in the Manchester area is now under serious threat.  The 5 acre site is run by a Christian Community and they maintain a very beautiful garden that is an oasis of peace and quiet in an otherwise industrialised and urbanised sprawl.  The garden is free to visit and highly reommended if you happen to be in the area.
 As I only spent an hour or so in the gardens this sunny (but incredibly windy) morning I am unable to supply names for the plants but, as many are extremely common, then you will possibly not require them?
 
 The paragraph could still apply in every respect apart from the date.
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				Lovely, Cliff.  So VERY different to here at the moment.  ;D  Sunshine looks nice..... this week we haven't seen much of it here, just lots of fog until mid afternoon.  Seeing your sunshine makes me feel a bit warmer, so thanks very much for that as well.  8)
			
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				Many thanks, Paul ... we have MORE than our fair share of sunless days so I try to enjoy the great yellow ball while it is fleetingly visible .. D
 
 More from the Vicarage Gardens yesterday ...
 
 
 
 VICARAGE GARDENS, MANCHESTER
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				My apologies folks for the lack of labels for these images from the Vicarage Gardens ... time is at a premium at the moment and it certainly was as I dashed around the gardens capturing these images.  I will TRY to improve for future postings.  :D
			
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				The final batch from the Vicarage Gardens at Carrington, Manchester.  I apologise once again for the lack of labels, but I hope some of you can enjoy the images for their own sake?
			
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				Duly enjoyed Cliff!
			
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				Thanks for the update on the Vicarage gardens Cliff !!
 Great images as always !!
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				Cliff, I always enjoy your pictures, with or without names  :D 8)
 Now I have to use my brains to remember some names  ;D ;D ;D
 It does not really matter which name is on such a beautiful plant of the last Geranium, because there are rather many lookalikes
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				I agree with everyone above, wonderful pictures, thanks for posting!
			
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				Oh Cliff, stunning pics.  That golden variegated grass, the blue iris (spuria variety?) and the absolute clarity of that glorious thistle flower.  Breathtaking!!!  :o
			
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				Oh Cliff, stunning pics.  That golden variegated grass, the blue iris (spuria variety?) and the absolute clarity of that glorious thistle flower.  Breathtaking!!!  :o
 
 
 Absolutely, Paul, I totally agree and was very taken by the thistle - especially as I have just come back from Scotland - but the foliage and tree shots are really gorgeous, Cliff, and it's good practice to remember or fine the names.....an interactive experience, thanks!  8)
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				 Re: GARDEN VISITS
 « Reply #17 on: May 10, 2008 ( pictures on page 2 of this thread)
 2 weeks ago we visited the garden of Klaus Patzner in Bavaria,situated beside a very busy street.
 The elevation is about 700 m above sea level with reliable snow cover in winter.Situated in full sun
 he is able to cultivate many 'goodies',even Paeonia cambessedesii since many years.
 Degenia velebitica sowed itself in the rainshade of the neighboured house and flowered profusely. An enormous Rhodothamnus chamaecistus was another surprise for us rockgardeners.
 This floral paradise was founded about 30 years ago.
 
 
 Jim Jermyn  (https://twitter.com/JimJermyn)has "tweeted" this photo from the garden :"Bold use of rocks in the Patzner alpine garden, Bavaria" he says.....
 
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 Jim, who is heavily involved with Gardeneing Scotland, is also tweeting that he thinks that "alpines could be "Big Winners" at GS this year".....  which seems pretty  likely, given how often alpine and rock garden plants have been featured in the winning exhibits from SRGC and Kevock  and how popular these plants are  !!!!
 
 
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				Doddington Place Gardens, the edwardian rockery
 
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				Doddington Gardens, other views of this lovely garden
 
 
 
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				Thanks for sharing this with us, we were there in 2009 and the rockery was being restored so it is good to see what has happened since.
			
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				Excellent images, Yann … many thanks for posting.
 
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				Thanks for all the super picture would be difficult to grow some of those here but great to share the pictures, cheers Ian the Christie kind
			
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				Today Mike Dale took our N.Northumberland Group on a visit to the Tyne Valley.  Our first stop was to Joan Barbers garden at Heddon on the Wall.  Didn't get pics here except her Melianthus major which was in full bloom because Pearl and I were helping with coffees and home made cookies.
 
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				Next stop was Allendale home of Ray Fairbairn responsible for many saxifrage and primula allionii hybrids that are still seen on show benches...
			
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				Next stop the garden of Alan Furness.  A few pics of things that I liked
			
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				Looks like a wonderful day, Chris … and WHAT a gentian.
 
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				Our final visit was to John Richards garden.  Lovely garden, full of interesting and unusual plants as you might expect.  He told us so many stories about them I just cannot remember any, and I was so interested there was little time to take photos.   What a super day out!!!
			
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				For a place to visit in Northumberland,  in the summer, I've been told about Mindrum Garden -  website: www.mindrumestate.com (http://www.mindrumestate.com)
 
 "These stunning gardens are set in the glorious Northumbrian countryside overlooking the Cheviots and have developed over the last 50 years into a series of intricate gardens overflowing with old fashioned roses, foxgloves, violas and hardy perennials, with woodland walks reaching down to the Bowmont River.
 
 The gardens are open during June and July, by appointment for groups requiring exclusive access as well as every Wednesday. Refreshments are available in the walled garden.
 
 A must-see when touring the Borders, please contact us for further details and information and we look forward to welcoming you to Mindrum.
 
 With kind regards, Tom and Miki Fairfax. "
 
 
 
 Mindrum, Northumberland TD12 4QN
 
 www.mindrumestate.com (http://www.mindrumestate.com)
 
 mikifairfax@gmail.com
 
 Tel: 01890 850 228
 
 
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				Been there, it's well worth your time.  Went about 4 years ago with our North Northumberland Group.
			
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				The South West Scotland Group had a great day out visiting Ian Kidman and George Young's garden in the sunny North East, followed by high tea near Lockerbie.  Yes, they still do 'high tea'!
			
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				That's  rather quaint- and very tasty, I imagine. Visiting those gardens will have built up quite an appetite , eh?  So glad the weather was good for your trip. Been soggy up here this weekend so you were clearly in the right place! 
			
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				PokerTuin, near Antwerp, Belgium
 
 A nice tuin for shade plants
 
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 The rest can be seen here https://picasaweb.google.com/117803375627767279637/20140608PokerTuin (https://picasaweb.google.com/117803375627767279637/20140608PokerTuin)
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				And for those loving Roses, here's Ivo Pauwels garden
 
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 more to see here https://picasaweb.google.com/117803375627767279637/20140608Pauwelshof (https://picasaweb.google.com/117803375627767279637/20140608Pauwelshof)