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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Steve Garvie on February 02, 2019, 08:50:21 PM
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Scilla libanotica
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As Scilla peruviana is doing so well here, I'd like to plant also the white form Scilla peruviana alba. A Google search found only British nurseries who sell them. Could someone recommend me a relyable seller?
BW
Hannelore
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Hello Hannelore,
You could order them from the french nursery where I bought mine. Didier, the owner of the "Planteurs de Brigaudičre" Nursery (a few miles away from Grenoble, in the Alps), is a long time and very nice friend. He is very reliable.
If you contact him, don't hesitate to say that I (Zephirine) gave you the address.... ;)
https://www.lesplanteursdebrigaudiere.fr/mobile/catalogue/page/detail/plante/447_scille-du-peacute-rou-hyacinthaceae-scilla-peruviana-alba.html (https://www.lesplanteursdebrigaudiere.fr/mobile/catalogue/page/detail/plante/447_scille-du-peacute-rou-hyacinthaceae-scilla-peruviana-alba.html)
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Thank you!
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first flowers of Scilla morrisii sown in october 2015
Scilla ingridiae var. taurica, from the Wallis
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This little gem opened today: Scilla winogradowii from Janis.
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Hyacinthoides aristides
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One more photo of my S. winogradowii in bright sunlight :)
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Scilla nana (Chionodoxa cretica) courtesy of the unseasonal mild weather (there is a Honey Bee in there somewhere).
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Very lovely Steve. Way ahead of any of my Chionodoxa. (And we've had some lovely warm days bringing the honey bees out).
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In the garden many Scilla are already faded hopefully somes are still at their best:
Scilla armena
Scilla siberica
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Yann, your Scilla armena is lovely. It is much lighter than mine, which is now at it's best I suppose. Strangely enough, I have some multipetaloid flowers on this one.
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It happens sometimes when the bulbs has a too warm period inside the pot.
I also saw this on Narcissus.
Scilla messeniaca mistake from my side during photomontage , messianca has larger and thicker leaf. I'll correct that later when i'm able to reach the garden.
Scilla bithynica
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Scilla nana now flowering here in London on a miserable wet day, much like it can be on Crete at this time of year! Mostly blue but variations often occur.
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It happens sometimes when the bulbs has a too warm period inside the pot.
I also saw this on Narcissus.
Thanks Yann. That might explain it. Last summer I started watering a little bit too early, then it got quite hot again in September. Killed off half of my Crocus collection, so it might also be responsible for my multipetaloid S. armena.
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x Chionoscilla allenii
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Super photo, Rimmer!
Another photo from Rimmer which he had trouble posting ....
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That is so lovely, the blues are such a joy at this time of year.
A few of my new acquisitions;
Chionodoxa 'Blue Giant'
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Scilla ingridae
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Scilla ramburei
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Scilla siberica 'Boreas'
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Scilla siberica 'Enem'
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These wee blue bulbs drive me crazy - after five minutes they all look the same to me! Traviso- aka the Amateur Anthecologist has posted this elsewhere ...
from Travis Owen
"Side by side comparison between four closely related bulbs blooming in my garden right now (clockwise from top left): Scilla siberica, Scilla mischtschenkoana, Chionodoxa luciliae, and Puschkinia scilloides.
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Generally speaking, these can be keyed out by characteristics of the filaments (the parts that hold the anthers). Round anthers (cross section) are consistent with Scilla. Flattened, independent filaments are consistent with Chionodoxa. Fused filaments (forming a corona, like the trumpet of a daffodil) are consistent with Puschkinia. There are a bunch of other characteristics used to identify species and other related genera, but these three genera are pretty common so it's good practice for amateur botanists like me."
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Few pictures of Iranian scillas - the first two are Scilla gorganica, the last was not yet identified, from the same gorge only much higher.
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Chionodoxa forbesii 'Aethra'
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Scilla siberica. It was originally the blue form and alba mixed but the blue is taking over.
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First snap is Scilla meliana.
The last 2 snaps are of Scilla bithynica.
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Janis which kind of substrat do use for gorganica? I've sown it 4 years ago, but i'm not able to get it bloom. The foliage turned quickly yellow. I think i didn't water it enough when rooting and too much after it finally emerged from the pot.
Any advice is welcome.
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Scilla gorganica in Kentucky a bit past prime in ordinary garden soil in shade. Frost got it a month ago
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Scilla rosenii whats left after the bunnies found the leaves in winter
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I'll try to plant some bulbs in a protect area of the garden.
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Scilla bithynica Collected by a former forum friend east of Istanbul, Turkey.
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Hyacinthoides/Scilla reverchonii
- selfseeding cheerfully around
Gerd
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Earlier named as Scilla gorganica now the name is changed to Fessia gorganica. Collected in Iran, Gorgan Province.
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It's a very nice species, i hope to see mines bloom next year.
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Earlier named as Scilla gorganica now the name is changed to Fessia gorganica. Collected in Iran, Gorgan Province.
beautiful Janis!!! specially the anthers blue in colour.
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What scilla is this? I have grown it as Scilla armena, seeds from Göteborg botanical garden, but I read that S.armena should have only one flower/stem, and this one has two flowers.
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The biggest of my last year replantet bulbs of Scilla peruviana is flowering again. It seem to like the neighbourhood of Calendula officinalis and Viola cornuta. :)
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Fessia olangensis (Asparagaceae): a new species of squill from Golestan Province, NE Iran described by Dimitri Zubov, Dr. biol. Janis Rukšāns, Dr. biol. h.c.
Published in International Rock Gardener (IRG 113), May 2019, pages 51-69. http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019May311559296345IRG113.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019May311559296345IRG113.pdf)
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some scilla peruviana varieties...
blue moon? (pale blue) or may be one form obtained from sowing, from my seeds...
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classic blue
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may be "grand bleu"
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lost the photos of white ones, and other shades...sowing is easy, but take some years before blooming...
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Prospero autumnale is blooming in the garden....no sign of life in the greenhouse.
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what is the origin of it Yann?
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a late answer better than never :-\ Croatia
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Scilla lingulata alba SL253A with a perfect shape and Prospero autumnale in the greenhouse
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This Prospero autumnale in a pink coloured form from Crete (inside the alpine house)
Gerd
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Scilla madeirensis
A close up as well.
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What temperature are you currently growing at? Mine sulk in the cold over winter here in the uk. (frost free 6Cmin) I have to flower them in autumn and keep any seed pods green until the spring for seeds.
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Brian:
They sit on a bench with my other SA bulbs. Temps are around 45-50 these days. Can get down to 40-45 at night. Ridge vent is open during daytime. Our winter has been mild. I do add some supplemental light using some LED tubes during day time hours to augment our low lights levels here in the Northeast US.
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Scilla madeirensis near fully open
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Arnold.
If my calculations are correct your day length is ~75 minutes longer than mine, and you are supplementing it. Much brighter, and nearer Madeira levels; if that is relevant. My greenhouse is also on the north side of my house so screened from direct sunlight for much of the day in winter. I guess this would need to be checked scientifically to prove.
Brian
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Brian:
I changed the light scheme based on a recommendation from Rimmer DeVries.
They are on during the day and go off around 6 PM. I just replaced the fluorescent bulbs with LEDS which seem much brighter. They are 6400 K.
My greenhouse is on the south side of the house but is shielded from early morning sun by an extension of the house.
I think higher light levels are essential for these bulbs.