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Title: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Roma on January 19, 2019, 10:25:08 PM
Eranthis hyemalis 'Orange Glow' - so pleased that this has come true from seed.

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Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Mariette on January 19, 2019, 10:29:22 PM
This year this is the first Eranthis to flower in my garden. The long, reddish stalks are typical, as the comparatively small buds are. I´m not sure whether it´s ´Winterzauber´or a seedling.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Mattb on January 19, 2019, 10:43:24 PM
Nice work, they're gorgeous. How many years to flowering size? I started 'Orange Glow' and 'Schwefelglanz' last winter...
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: angie on January 20, 2019, 12:06:20 AM
Like having little suns in your greehouse , really lovely Roma .

Angie  :)
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Peppa on January 20, 2019, 12:43:35 AM
Found a couple of multipetaled E. pinnatifida this morning.  The recent rain has left them a little dirty... E. hyemalis 'Aurantiaca' and 'Schwefelglanz' are following soon. This is my favorite time of the year!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on January 20, 2019, 01:11:54 AM
Snap of E stellata from Jan 8 in pot in ground outside
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 20, 2019, 09:50:06 AM
A couple to move into 2019 here Maggi.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on January 20, 2019, 01:21:27 PM
A couple to move into 2019 here Maggi.
So there are, thanks David!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Roma on January 20, 2019, 02:11:35 PM
Maggi, we seem to have two Eranthis 2019 threads now ;D
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on January 20, 2019, 02:43:24 PM
Maggi, we seem to have two Eranthis 2019 threads now ;D
I' ll fix things!  I must have been too busy wondering if you were having a pleasant afternoon with lots of  birthday cake, dear Roma!!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Mariette on January 20, 2019, 03:44:23 PM
Congratulations! I´m sorry, but when I posted, Yours were not yet visible.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Helga on January 20, 2019, 04:30:42 PM
Eranthis hyemalis 'Orange Glow' - so pleased that this has come true from seed.

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Wow, this is soooooo beautiful! :D
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Mariette on January 20, 2019, 05:10:57 PM
Found a couple of multipetaled E. pinnatifida this morning.  The recent rain has left them a little dirty... E. hyemalis 'Aurantiaca' and 'Schwefelglanz' are following soon. This is my favorite time of the year!
Your Eranthis pinnatifida look wonderful, Peppa! I´m so sorry that I can´t grow them in my garden.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Peppa on January 20, 2019, 06:25:31 PM
I' ll fix things!  I must have been too busy wondering if you were having a pleasant afternoon with lots of  birthday cake, dear Roma!!

Oops! Thanks for moving my post to the correct thread!  :)

Mariette, Thanks! is it too cold to grow them at your place?
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Roma on January 20, 2019, 08:51:48 PM
Nice work, they're gorgeous. How many years to flowering size? I started 'Orange Glow' and 'Schwefelglanz' last winter...
The seeds were sown in January 2000 and germinated in March 2011. First flowers were last year (2018).  I'm not very good at feeding and repotting so I think they could be flowered quicker with better care.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Carolyn on January 20, 2019, 09:07:51 PM
You should be able to get flowers in the 3rd year of growth, certainly the 4th. I have just flowered Orange Glow and Schwefelglanz from seed, sown fresh as soon as ripe in May, germinated the following January - you just get the cotyledon leaves in the first season. Feed with very dilute tomato fertiliser till the cotyledons go dormant. 2nd season - true leaves, feed by sprinkling some of Ian Young's magic potion - sulphate of potash (or more tomato fertiliser).  By the end of the 2nd season of growth I plant them out in the garden and sometimes am rewarded with some flowers in season 3. If you get seeds from the seedex, they will not be fresh and are unlikely to germinate well. I bought some GA3 a couple of years ago and tried it with eranthis. 100% germination by the next spring!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Mariette on January 21, 2019, 08:59:45 AM
Oops! Thanks for moving my post to the correct thread!  :)

Mariette, Thanks! is it too cold to grow them at your place?
In this part of Germany we enjoy zone 7 b - 8 a, too. But the boggy rural area where I´m gardening is infested with slugs, which renders the culture of the white species unreasonable. They´d look so wonderful combined with black or blue hellebores. Eranthis stellata flowers together with Adonis amurensis in Eastern Russia, a beautiful sight I once admired seeing a report featuring that area.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 21, 2019, 02:29:47 PM
Eranthis hyemalis but it would be nicer to see them open.

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Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on January 21, 2019, 02:36:22 PM
They're  a lot further on than here, David - a touch of sun (google it - you'll remember it  when you see some photos) and they'll be lovely.

I fear there is a lot more nasty weather to come yet, so I'm not too worried about our  flowers  being a little "shy" !!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 21, 2019, 03:05:01 PM
They're  a lot further on than here, David - a touch of sun (google it - you'll remember it  when you see some photos) and they'll be lovely.

I fear there is a lot more nasty weather to come yet, so I'm not too worried about our  flowers  being a little "shy" !!

Ah, yes. Round thing, gets hot?
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on January 21, 2019, 04:07:52 PM
Ah, yes. Round thing, gets hot?
That's the one - not to be confused with a set of similar things in the kitchen!!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 21, 2019, 06:40:40 PM
That's the one - not to be confused with a set of similar things in the kitchen!!

Even I can tell the sun from a teapot ::) ;D
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Gail on February 09, 2019, 06:34:54 PM
Flowering here 'Pauline' and 'Copenhagen' (syn of Flore Pleno according to Wim's article in IRG)
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on February 09, 2019, 06:46:51 PM
Ian got a couple of nice  plants of  different Eranthis from Chris Ireland-Jones of  Avon  in Co. Carlow last weekend.. only slightly squashed after their  journey home!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Herman Mylemans on February 16, 2019, 03:45:08 PM
Eranthis hyemalis 'Orange Glow'

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Eranthis hyemalis 'Schwefelglanz'

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Eranthis x tubergenii ‘Sachsengold’

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Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: barnclos on February 18, 2019, 10:47:33 AM
For the last week, it has been clear skies, 8 °C maximum, -1 °C overnight. Eranthis seem to be loving it. There were a couple of pots with flowers last year, but this is the first year with a ‘full house’. Unnamed variety bought at garden centre, seeds sown fresh in May 2014.

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Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Mariette on February 18, 2019, 07:56:02 PM
Some seedlings of ´Lady Lamortagne´.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: YT on March 02, 2019, 04:27:48 PM
Eranthis pinnatifida, a pink form 8)
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 02, 2019, 05:58:32 PM
What a cracking wee plant Tatsuo!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Roma on March 06, 2019, 10:15:33 PM
Eranthis cilicica
It's taken a few years to get this established and I'm not sure they are all correct.  I twice bought a potful at the SRGC Early Bulb Display.  I have grown some from seed and they have self seeded.  They are much later flowering than hyemalis.  The tall ones on the left look as if they might be hybrids.

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Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 24, 2019, 06:35:32 AM
Eranthis byunsanensis from Korea
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: kot on March 25, 2019, 06:22:36 AM
Eranthis coll. Kot
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Leena on April 09, 2019, 11:20:29 AM
I'm still having trouble identifying Eranthis. I have bought all these from garden center as E.hyemalis and they flower at the same time.
I'm thinking could the first one be E.cilicica?
How about the second and the third picture, are they E.hyemalis?
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Herman Mylemans on April 09, 2019, 02:09:27 PM
I'm still having trouble identifying Eranthis. I have bought all these from garden center as E.hyemalis and they flower at the same time.
I'm thinking could the first one be E.cilicica?
How about the second and the third picture, are they E.hyemalis?
Leena look at http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2014Jan291391022895IRG49.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2014Jan291391022895IRG49.pdf)   there is a fine description of Eranthis.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Leena on April 10, 2019, 07:18:28 AM
 :D Thank you Herman. E.cilicica is easier because more pinnate and bronze leaves, but I'm not sure how to tell E.hyemalis and E.x tubergenii.. :-\ It seems that when you buy Eranthis from garden centers you can not be sure what you get. Here also they flower at the same time, so even that is not a feature I can use to tell which is which.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Alan_b on April 10, 2019, 08:50:10 AM
In my old very dry garden Eranathis hyemalis grew like a weed whilst Eranthis cilicica always died out very rapidly; mostly it never returned the following year. 
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Leena on April 11, 2019, 08:04:00 AM
I am struggling with all Eranthis, the conditions in my garden are not ideal for them, because I know people here in Finland who can grow them well, so it is not the climate.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Carolyn on April 11, 2019, 09:14:50 AM
Leena,
I struggled to grow Eranthis at first in my garden, I bought some "in the green" and planted them. The slugs soon finished them off.... then I tried buying some in pots, pollinating the flowers and harvesting seeds. After repeating this process for several years I now have a nice colony of self-seeding plants in the garden - including cilicica (and I live on the wet west coast) and 'Schwefelglanz'  and 'Orange glow' which come true from seed. I think sowing very fresh seed is the answer. I have found that older dry seed can germinate if treated with GA3, so seeds fromthe seed exchanges can be of use too.
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Leena on April 12, 2019, 07:23:00 AM
I haven't had very good germination from seed ex seeds, but will try them again. :) Getting different colour forms of Eranthis would be nice.
I have waited for Eranthis to form colonies by self seeding, but I will try your method, Carolyn, and collect the seeds and sow them in pots! Then all the seeds have a good chance of germinating, if left to seed to the ground there may be too many perils for them. :)
Title: Re: Eranthis 2020
Post by: Mariette on February 08, 2020, 11:08:02 PM
Two new seedlings.

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Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Tomte on February 09, 2020, 05:26:29 PM
I have shown these Eranthis pinnatifida seedlings in the photos of seedlings thread a week earlier, but today they had a much more pleasant appearance, so I‘ll show them again. The were just sown in 2017 from the few seeds I harvested from my first flowering plant, and they grew to flowering size quite quickly. Given that this species is still quite pricey, growing from seed is fairly attractive indeed!
Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: Mariette on February 13, 2020, 10:53:11 AM
Very beautiful, Tomte! Unfortunately, the white species are not happy in my garden.

The buds of ths Eranthis ´Sachsengold´look fascinating, I think.

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Title: Re: Eranthis 2019
Post by: barnclos on February 24, 2020, 10:30:11 AM
Very happy to find this pot with E. pinnatifida. I bought them from Japan in autumn 2018 but there was no growth 2019 so I assumed their journey had been too much for them. Clearly they’re tougher than I thought (especially as they were neglected and left outside all winter).
Maybe some flowers next year.

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