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Title: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on January 19, 2019, 03:43:16 PM
Muscari leucostomum the first one of this winter.
it's very easy to grow and hardy.

Muscari szovitsianum, i didn't water it enough and then the last frost damage the leafs. Will do better next year  ;)
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on January 19, 2019, 04:34:57 PM
Hyacintella milingenii OP211298, sown in october 2015, from Oron's seeds
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on January 19, 2019, 04:53:32 PM
Hyacintella milingenii OP211298, sown in october 2015, from Oron's seeds
The colour is  "neon" isn't it?
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on January 19, 2019, 08:09:52 PM
led ring flash, not the best flash but the cheapest  ;D my camera also produces dark colors as i resetted it after a sensor cleaning.I need to caliber it.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 21, 2019, 02:36:35 PM
Pseudomuscari inconstrictum from seed from Kurt Vickery collected in Jordon. One of these days I'll remember about them and get a picture with them fully open.

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Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on January 21, 2019, 10:28:54 PM
very nice colors
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on January 26, 2019, 12:44:11 PM
Hyacinthella siirtensis, from Turkey
and an unknown species  ???
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on February 02, 2019, 02:47:02 PM
Hyacinthella lazulina
Muscari sivrihisardaghlarensis
Hyacinthella heldreichii
Hyacinthella leucophaea subsp. atchleyi

despite the lack of light these beauty are blooming so well this year
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on February 02, 2019, 04:13:41 PM
Nice Yann.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on February 02, 2019, 07:19:04 PM
They all pop up the last 2 days, really strange
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on February 24, 2019, 05:50:56 PM
Hyacinthoides reverchonii
Bellevalia romana
Hyacinthus orientalis

I don't think it's the right place to post this, may be should we open a thread named Asparagaceae?
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on February 24, 2019, 06:45:17 PM
I don't think it's the right place to post this, may be should we open a thread named Asparagaceae?

Well, we can - but I'm not sure when I would have time to trawl through all the  hundreds  (977) of  existing threads to  move any  relevant threads to a new  section!   :-X

 Wikipedia says "Asparagaceae includes 114 genera with a total of ca 2900 known species.
Unless otherwise noted, the alphabetical list below on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asparagaceae (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asparagaceae)  is based on genera accepted by the World Checklist of Selected Plant Families as in the family Asparagaceae (with synonyms from the same source). "  I could post a list  of genera to a new  thread so people would know what to  search for elsewhere in the forum.  :-\

IPNI list of plants in Asparagaceae : click here (http://www.ipni.org/ipni/advPlantNameSearch.do?find_infragenus=&find_isAPNIRecord=true&find_geoUnit=&find_includePublicationAuthors=true&find_addedSince=&find_family=Asparagaceae&find_genus=&find_sortByFamily=true&find_isGCIRecord=true&find_infrafamily=&find_rankToReturn=all&find_publicationTitle=&find_authorAbbrev=&find_infraspecies=&find_includeBasionymAuthors=true&find_modifiedSince=&find_isIKRecord=true&find_species=&output_format=normal&chunk_size=100&start_row=0)
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on March 02, 2019, 06:14:29 PM
Here's Muscari sivrihisardaghlarensis flowering non stop for a month or so  :o
Muscari aucheri, from the 2014 seedex
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on March 03, 2019, 11:52:37 AM
Muscari muscarimi, 2 weeks ago...
Muscari pulchellum JKP 98024
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Arda Takan on March 14, 2019, 11:39:43 AM
that sivrihisar muscari looks like a robust one.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on March 16, 2019, 07:21:22 PM
Muscari kerkis, it's still a bit dark today. I've ordered a packet of sun hope there won't be any delay in the delivery  8)
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Gail on March 16, 2019, 08:55:54 PM
I've ordered a packet of sun hope there won't be any delay in the delivery  8)
Brilliant idea - which supplier do you recommend? I could really do with some... (and a switch to turn the wind down)
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Deb A on March 17, 2019, 03:55:16 PM
My first post so please forgive me if I’m in the wrong thread!
But I think I’m definitely in the right place to get good advice at SRGC :)

I am developing a collection of Muscari (and Pseudomuscari and Bellevalia because I very quickly became obsessed by them all :)
This is the first year that I have germinated seeds, both ones which I have collected and ones which I have purchased. I have been pleasantly surprised by my success so far, but now I have all these lovely seedlings how should I look after them? 
Has anyone got any top tips or good advice, should I feed?  With what?  Do I let them dry out like the adult bulbs? Should I keep them in same pot for the next year of growth?  Any advice greatfully accepted thank you :)
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on March 17, 2019, 04:49:10 PM
Hello Deb, and welcome!

My "other half"  Ian Young  (- aka the  Bulb Despot, who writes the weekly  Bulb Log  Diary - ISSN 2514 6114 -  on the  SRGC Website) is in charge of  seedling care  here in our Aberdeen garden -  he prefers to keep seedlings growing for a s long as possible when they are young to build them up. He feeds  them in growth with  Sulphate of  Potash powder.
If the babies are  kept  slightly  cool and watered and fed they will tend to keep growing  longer than an mature bulb will be in growth and this gives them extra time to  get bigger  each year and usually leads to  flowers  a bit  sooner than you might think. We also prefer to  grow  the  babies on  en masse   - re-potting the whole potful without splitting  into a larger pot rather than  pricking out  the little plants. Pricking out any plant, be it a bulb or  whatever, is often the most  dangerous time for  the babies - they  can suffer  leaf and /or root damage and  infections can enter  more easily.  The potting on en masse  has  proven to be a  very successful  method for many of us.
 
 You can search  the  Bulb Log  Index about  feeding, also from the  main Bulb Log  page, where all editions of it are available http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb)     A
lso a  Google  search of  whatever you are looking for, accompanied  by Bulb Log and  SRGC  can get  very useful  results quickly!
 I hope others will chime in with their  methods.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Tomte on March 17, 2019, 08:02:43 PM
Maggi,
what about the dormant period? Do you usually keep first year bulbs a little cooler at dormancy as well? With some I am afraid whether they can handle total dryness when they are so small. My Nothoscordum dialystemon for example likes a good dry rest, but the plentiful bulbils it makes never seem to come up. So I am inclined to treat baby bulbs a little less harsh than I would the adults..
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Tomte on March 17, 2019, 08:07:23 PM
Oh, and back to Muscari..
Muscari anatolicum is flowering here, a pretty stout stem it has. And reddish, too.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on March 17, 2019, 08:18:47 PM
Maggi,
what about the dormant period? Do you usually keep first year bulbs a little cooler at dormancy as well? With some I am afraid whether they can handle total dryness when they are so small. My Nothoscrdum dialystemon for example likes a good dry rest, but the plentiful bulbils it makes never seem to come up. So I am inclined to treat baby bulbs a little less harsh than i would the adults..

Yes we would keep the  young ones cooler - and often then they grow  almost the whole  year, they always  get some water when growing of  course.  Yes, it is harder for  little ones to  cope with  severe drying out and heat than mature bulbs - the  young ones  may not have the  strength to  cope with that. But here in Aberdeen, we do not often have to worry too much about  great heat! 
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Tomte on March 17, 2019, 08:36:52 PM
I see.
I, on the other hand, really can't keep them growing longer than June, I guess. Even on the north side of our balcony (it is nearly a 360° balcony) it gets pretty hot at some point. Keeping them not that warm when they went dormant should not be such an issue, though.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: ashley on March 18, 2019, 05:45:10 PM
Bellevalia dubia
Chionodoxa sardensis
Muscari kerkis
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on March 18, 2019, 07:48:06 PM
Muscari latifolium

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Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Deb A on March 19, 2019, 09:16:21 AM
Maggi thank you so much for the top tips for my seedlings :)
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Roma on March 19, 2019, 12:07:06 PM
I had a selection of named Muscari in a large pot for a couple of years and last year tipped it out and planted the large number of bulbs in the garden.  I have forgotten where they all are but was pleased to see this one appear among the Scilla bifolia.

Muscari 'Pink Sunrise'

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Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: YT on March 19, 2019, 05:19:07 PM
Muscari armeniacum, a pink form, JJA688.012.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: YT on March 19, 2019, 05:20:15 PM
Muscari comutatum, a white form
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on March 31, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
as usual Tatsuo that's marvelous  ;)

Muscari spreitzenhoferi, last year it didn't bloom at all and i try a new soil mixture, it was the good equation.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on April 02, 2019, 08:06:43 PM
-1 Muscari chalusicum and Muscari macrocarpum
-2 Muscari latifolium, extraordinary colors
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Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 18, 2019, 08:01:30 AM
Some Muscari-like flowers.
The first is Alravia bellii from Iran
Then unidentified Bellevalia sp. from Syria - could be new species
and the last three pictures are of very miniature Bellevalia, resembling pycnantha but from dry spots and very tiny, certainly new species, but not easy to grow - from 5 collected plants now I have only two and the white one was lost, too. At locality it was very sparsely situated and such group of several together was the single one.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Tomte on May 11, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
I might be a little late in showing this, as it bloomed by the end of March. Nevertheless, the flowers of my Hyacinthella dalmatica are well worth seeing for their sky blue color and dark anthers. But I still wonder whether it might be virused. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 30, 2019, 01:44:54 PM
Muscari (Pseudomuscari) inconstrictum in flower earlier this month
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on August 30, 2019, 10:55:41 PM
I might be a little late in showing this, as it bloomed by the end of March. Nevertheless, the flowers of my Hyacinthella dalmatica are well worth seeing for their sky blue color and dark anthers. But I still wonder whether it might be virused. Any thoughts?

Hyacinth mosaic virus is common with Muscari and Hyacinthella.

Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 31, 2019, 12:19:53 PM
Muscari macrocarpum - growing in too much shade I think :-\
Might have to move it before next season
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 02, 2019, 01:14:31 PM
Muscari muscarimi - two forms
I think that these are both Muscari muscarimi but the first came to me from Marcus Harvey many years ago, the second came from Hillview last year as Muscari mcbeathianum but I presume it's a yellow form of Muscari muscarimi - unless someone else can give me another identity for it,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2019, 02:34:40 PM
Muscari muscarimi - two forms
I think that these are both Muscari muscarimi but the first came to me from Marcus Harvey many years ago, the second came from Hillview last year as Muscari mcbeathianum but I presume it's a yellow form of Muscari muscarimi - unless someone else can give me another identity for it,
cheers
fermi
I've  always  known that yellow  muscari as M. macrocarpum - but  I  don't  know if that's  correct! 

This  is  what M. mcbeathianum looks  like ....

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Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Arum on October 11, 2019, 02:03:51 AM
Could somebody name this muscari for me please.The label has been long lost. I am pretty sure I grew it from seed from the Gothenburg Botanical Seed-ex, some years ago. I am searching through my garden diaries for some past entry. The colours in real life are grey & white.
Thank you.
Edna

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Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: ashley on October 11, 2019, 01:00:15 PM
Hello Edna.  This looks like Muscari pallens, and clearly happy with your conditions.
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Arum on October 11, 2019, 10:25:23 PM
Thank you Ashley. Yes I was thinking maybe it was M. pallens but in my search of the internet and various books I have never come across another that emerges with such deep colouring.
edna
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: pehe on November 01, 2019, 06:28:09 AM
Flowering now in the Northern hemisphere:
Muscari aucheri 'Autumn Glory' - the autumn flowering variant of M. aucheri.
Most seedlings of this also flower in autumn.

Poul
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on December 21, 2019, 01:09:37 PM
Muscari armeniacum in full blossom for Christmas  :o
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on December 21, 2019, 04:10:50 PM
Muscari armeniacum in full blossom for Christmas  :o
A  different  kind  of  Christmas  Bell!
Title: Re: Muscari 2019
Post by: Yann on December 21, 2019, 10:08:36 PM
Indeed!!
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