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Title: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 06, 2019, 01:20:00 PM
A few Ashwood Hyb hellebores.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 06, 2019, 01:21:30 PM
And a few more.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 06, 2019, 01:23:22 PM
last few.
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 06, 2019, 01:24:21 PM
Helleborus niger,
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Yann on January 06, 2019, 03:13:43 PM
The first one to flower in the garden, the next week end many others will open the season  :D
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Helga on January 06, 2019, 06:01:42 PM
Beautiful pics of beautiful plants  :D
I envy you, it will take another two months until I see the first of my own!
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on January 12, 2019, 11:59:21 AM
I envy you, it will take another two months until I see the first of my own!

It is hard to wait, for me it will be at least three months before I see mine, but it helps to see plants in the forum, already flowering now. :)
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 12, 2019, 06:02:31 PM
A couple more.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 21, 2019, 02:39:24 PM
A Harvington Hellebore.

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Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on January 21, 2019, 02:41:49 PM
This one I have had a few years now and can't read the label but can just make out 'Blackthorn'

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Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Stefan B. on January 21, 2019, 07:20:01 PM
Helleborus x hybridus - 'Bradfield Best Yellow'
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Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Yann on February 09, 2019, 04:20:14 PM
a quick visit to Thierry Delabroye, as always some stunning hybrids![attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4][attachimg=5]
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Yann on February 09, 2019, 04:23:55 PM
under the polytunnel paradise, outside strong guts[attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4][attachimg=5]
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Yann on February 09, 2019, 04:37:02 PM
a few more and while on the way back to home a nice touch of white  ;D[attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4]
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 09, 2019, 04:43:29 PM
Too bad we missed each other Yann, I was there yesterday afternoon !  :D

Thierry is a real magician - here are some acquisitions that found the way to Flanders.

Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Yann on February 09, 2019, 05:02:49 PM
great! that's the reason why i found holes inside the selections :+)))
I worked very late yesterday so it wasn't possible for me.

In the garden Helleborus bocconei sown in october 2012 is doing well.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Gabriela on February 09, 2019, 08:17:42 PM
Gorgeous Helleborus, thanks for posting Yann and Luc!
Especially the ones in apricot shades are outstanding.

Luc - make an enclosure around that yellow anemone center :) it is beyond beautiful!!!
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on February 11, 2019, 11:09:57 AM
Gorgeous Helleborus, thanks for posting Yann and Luc!
Especially the ones in apricot shades are outstanding.

I totally agree, and the two on the top in Yann's first post in the previous page were so special, I love them!
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Yann on February 11, 2019, 05:35:11 PM
If you've patience i'll have seeds of the apricot ones  ;)
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on February 11, 2019, 05:45:57 PM
Yann, thank you so much! I am patient with seeds. :)
This spring I hope to have many new Helleborus flowering which were sowed in 2014 and 2015, in the end of April and beginning of May.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Mariette on February 12, 2019, 04:54:08 PM
A seedling.

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Post by: Maggi Young on February 12, 2019, 05:09:20 PM
So pretty, Mariette,  the whole makes a  lovely vignette  !
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Post by: Mariette on February 12, 2019, 07:09:49 PM
Thank You, Maggi! That´s what I aim at in my garden, but succeeded only in very small parts.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on February 16, 2019, 09:31:10 AM
So pretty, Mariette,  the whole makes a  lovely vignette  !

Also I love that view, and what a very nice picotee Helleborus.
What is that fern in the background?
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 16, 2019, 10:27:45 AM
Gorgeous Helleborus, thanks for posting Yann and Luc!
Especially the ones in apricot shades are outstanding.

Luc - make an enclosure around that yellow anemone center :) it is beyond beautiful!!!

Will do Gabriela - see in a few months if it sets seeds.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Gabriela on February 16, 2019, 06:00:43 PM
If you've patience i'll have seeds of the apricot ones  ;)

Will do Gabriela - see in a few months if it sets seeds.

I wouldn't be able to refuse seeds from any of them :) Yann and Luc! The Helleborus seeds are not easy to catch, as I discovered myself.
I also like the fact that their seedlings are easy to grow under indoor lights in a cold climate.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Helga on February 23, 2019, 05:28:01 PM
The dark one with the yellow edge - unbelievably beautiful!!! :D
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Mariette on February 25, 2019, 09:43:38 PM
Also I love that view, and what a very nice picotee Helleborus.
What is that fern in the background?
Thank, You, Leena - the fern is Polystichum setiferum ´Pulcherrimum Brevis´.

This is Helleborus croaticus surrounded by some Galanthus nivalis collected in Istria.

(https://up.picr.de/35170207vn.jpg)
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on March 01, 2019, 07:28:53 PM
Plant Heritage Event in UK   Sunday 3rd March 2019

Helleborus spp. & hybrids Open Day - Kingsley, Staffordshire

Sunday 3rd March 2019      Open 10am - 4pm


Open day to see the National Plant Collection, Helleborus spp. & hybrids. A complete Collection of all known Helleborus species plus all primary hybrids & inter sectional hybrids. The National Plant Collection also comprises over 500 helleborus x hybridus including named plants from the famous breeders Helen Ballard & Eric Smith. One full set is housed in a large polytunnel, so can be viewed even during inclement weather.

Event Location:
Hazles Cross Farm Nursery
Hollins Lane
Kingsley
Staffordshire
ST10 2EP

Event Contact:
Mr M Byford
mikebyford@hazlescrossfarmnursery.co.uk

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Pic  ex Plant Heritage
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Bart on March 04, 2019, 03:48:00 PM
After a weekend away I had a fresh look at the garden and noticed a feature on a hellebore that I had never noticed before. I have had this plant for about 10 years.

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As far as I can remember the plant normally flowers once and stays attractive for a very long time because when seed has set the dark petals just continue. But a secondary flowering I have never seen. I thought the plants looked unusually full. Is this something common?


Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Steve Garvie on March 05, 2019, 11:58:29 PM
It’s a pity that most Helleborus flowers face downwards. It can be a struggle to get images in the open garden. I needed help to get on my feet afterwards!  ;)

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Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Gail on March 06, 2019, 07:14:19 AM
But well worth the effort Steve - lovely images, as always.
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Post by: Steve Garvie on March 07, 2019, 10:35:26 PM
Many thanks Gail.

Here are a few more Helleborus from the garden. Images were taken on an ipad in the rain.
First up, a black-flowered plant:
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Next is a ruby-flowered plant and another with less deflexed dark-pink flowers:
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Lastly a clump with strongly deflexed flowers which are worth flipping to see the attractive inner markings:
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Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Mariette on March 08, 2019, 05:23:40 PM
Indeed some flowers are well worth seeing from beneath, Steve!

Helleborus dumetorum
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on March 19, 2019, 07:08:30 PM
Helleborus multifidus is the first one here, though it also grows in a bed from which the snow melts first. All other of my Hellebores are still under snow.
When snow melted a few days ago, it's buds were ready above the ground. I find it interesting that it's buds all face south. How can it know which way south is when there is a lot of snow above it? I have noticed the same behavior also in previous years. Ground is still frozen solid under the leaf carpet, yet it is ready to start to flower as soon as the temperatures will raise more  :).
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Gabriela on March 20, 2019, 10:51:26 PM
Helleborus multifidus is the first one here, though it also grows in a bed from which the snow melts first. All other of my Hellebores are still under snow.
When snow melted a few days ago, it's buds were ready above the ground. I find it interesting that it's buds all face south. How can it know which way south is when there is a lot of snow above it? I have noticed the same behavior also in previous years. Ground is still frozen solid under the leaf carpet, yet it is ready to start to flower as soon as the temperatures will raise more  :).

Same here Leena, still frozen solid in the shade so your multifidus is really early!
That's a good question - how do they know to face towards the sun? :) I'm sure there is more to these plants than anyone can imagine.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Jeffnz on March 21, 2019, 12:18:01 AM
They are pre programmed to avoid damage to the stigmas and anthers by exposure to the elements.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Diane Whitehead on March 29, 2019, 03:42:53 AM
Well, I don't know about avoiding the sun.  In my garden, most flowers turn their backs to me.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on April 03, 2019, 07:17:58 PM
H.multifidus today. It is so pretty with it's lime color when there is not so much color elsewhere yet, and it gives good contrast with Crocus 'Ruby Giant'. These were plants which I have grown from wild collected seeds (from Croatia near Plitvice) eight years ago. They are always my earliest Hellebores, all H. x hybridus are still in bud close to ground.
H.niger is also an early one, these plants were saved from Christmas decoration basket some years ago, and I planted them outside the following spring. Their buds were visible already in December, but survived in snow all winter.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Hoy on April 03, 2019, 09:55:39 PM
Leena,
 nice plants! Seem they like your cold snowy winter more than mine mild wet one!
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Rick R. on April 04, 2019, 01:33:15 AM
But a secondary flowering I have never seen. I thought the plants looked unusually full. Is this something common?

Yes, I think so, Bart.  That is, if you are talking about multiple flowers per stem, like this:
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Even the old Royal Heritage strain does it.

How can it know which way south is when there is a lot of snow above it?

A surprising amount of light gets through the snow.  I remember a few decades back, when we had reliable zone 3&4 weather with reliable snow, lots of people owned snowmobiles.  Some of the lakes were so heavily used that 80% of the surfaces were packed down by the snowmobiles.  There was concern that the packed snow wouldn't  allow enough light to penetrate to the lake underneath to support the ecosystem that apparently depends on the light.  Our Minnesota state Department of Natural Resources conducted a study  to determine the effects.  But there was never any change in snowmobile use legislation, so I assume results of the study were either inconclusive or negligible.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Jeffnz on April 04, 2019, 02:43:22 AM
The flowers on the niger plant are very upward facing and of good construction. Niger Jacob?
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Post by: Leena on April 04, 2019, 06:40:27 PM
Leena, nice plants! Seem they like your cold snowy winter more than mine mild wet one!

Thanks. :) Most of them like our weather, the problem may be when after a relatively warm early winter is followed with very cold with no snow cover, like it was in January 2016. I lost several plants that winter, and many Helleborus seeds outside had started to germinate in December and were then killed by very cold weather. I lost some special seedlings which I hadn't sowed in pots but outside in woodland bed (where I then thought they would do better). This was after we had two very nice and warm winters in 2014 and 2015 when everything was doing better outside than in my pots inside.

The flowers on the niger plant are very upward facing and of good construction. Niger Jacob?

They have very nice and upward facing flowers, also flowers are quite big. These were sold with no name, and I don't think they are 'Jacob'. I have 'Jacob', and it always starts to flower in December, and then many times winter destroys it's flowers. This last autumn we got snow already in early December, and 'Jacob' wasn't very advanced then, but still it doesn't flower well now.
Here it is today. :)
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on April 04, 2019, 06:41:09 PM
A surprising amount of light gets through the snow.  I remember a few decades back, when we had reliable zone 3&4 weather with reliable snow, lots of people owned snowmobiles.  Some of the lakes were so heavily used that 80% of the surfaces were packed down by the snowmobiles.  There was concern that the packed snow wouldn't  allow enough light to penetrate to the lake underneath to support the ecosystem that apparently depends on the light.  Our Minnesota state Department of Natural Resources conducted a study  to determine the effects.  But there was never any change in snowmobile use legislation, so I assume results of the study were either inconclusive or negligible.

Thank you Rick! :)
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Gabriela on April 06, 2019, 01:24:16 AM

They have very nice and upward facing flowers, also flowers are quite big. These were sold with no name, and I don't think they are 'Jacob'. I have 'Jacob', and it always starts to flower in December, and then many times winter destroys it's flowers. This last autumn we got snow already in early December, and 'Jacob' wasn't very advanced then, but still it doesn't flower well now.
Here it is today. :)

A very nice H. niger Leena with those upward flowers!
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on April 20, 2019, 06:42:15 AM
Helleborus season is slowly advancing here.
I have grown this plant from Holubec wild collected seeds from Passo Manova, Italy, and it flowers now for the first time. It is very floriferous, with two or even three flowers per stem. What interests me also is that it has red pistil, my other H.niger has green pistils.
The second H.niger is also grown from seeds collected from Italy, in the mountains near Lake Como. This one is more ordinary-looking to me.
The third picture is my biggest yellow grown from Ashwood seeds about ten years ago.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2019, 11:36:45 AM
I have grown this plant from Holubec wild collected seeds from Passo Manova, Italy, and it flowers now for the first time. It is very floriferous, with two or even three flowers per stem. What interests me also is that it has red pistil, my other H.niger has green pistils.

That's rather  lovely!!
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on April 21, 2019, 06:32:36 AM
Thank you Maggi. :)
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: ashley on April 23, 2019, 11:04:15 PM
Helleborus foetidus
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Post by: Jeffnz on April 24, 2019, 12:06:30 AM
The flower shape of the yellow would be hard to beat, nectary colour?
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Post by: David Nicholson on April 24, 2019, 09:40:31 AM
Is foetidus always very late Ashley?
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Post by: ashley on April 24, 2019, 11:57:45 AM
I don't know if the timing is unusual David.  These were about the same as in my garden, but spring seems to have been relatively cool this year in SW Spain.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on April 24, 2019, 07:23:45 PM
Ashely, your H.foetidus seems to be thriving. :)

The flower shape of the yellow would be hard to beat, nectary colour?

The shape is very nice!
Here is a closer picture of it, my oldest yellow Helleborus.
The second picture is of it's sister plant, and third is also grown from the same seeds.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on April 24, 2019, 07:27:49 PM
This is also quite nice spotted yellowish Helleborus, flowering for the first time, but the second plant has become my favourite. It is still quite small, but it's flower is so nice, shade could be said cream-coloured. It is grown from seeds from Australia from a kid forumist.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on May 01, 2019, 07:53:49 AM
Some more Helleborus flowers.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on May 01, 2019, 07:55:15 AM
And more.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on May 01, 2019, 08:00:46 AM
Some are very nodding  :(, but have nice spotting inside the petals (second picture).
I like also the faint spotting in the third one, and it has much better posture.
This double Helleborus was grown from seed ex seeds, and flowers now for the second time. It's flowers nod, but when the late afternoon sun hits them, they turn their flowers more up towards the sun. It has also very nice pattern of petals.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on May 01, 2019, 08:06:17 AM
This double is also my favourite.
I have some Helleborus grown from Northwest Garden Nursery seeds, and the first ones flowered this spring. I lost many of the seedlings in winter 2016 which was very bad (no snow and very cold right after a warm spell in January).
The second and third pictures are 'Rose Quarz'
Fourth is 'Jade Tiger'
Fifth is 'Onyx Odyssey'
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on May 01, 2019, 08:12:34 AM
'Rose Quarz'
'Blue Metallic Lady'
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: David Nicholson on May 01, 2019, 08:48:12 AM
Lovely collection of Hellebores Leena.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Gail on May 01, 2019, 03:11:06 PM
Lovely pictures Leena - I really like the Rose Quartz one.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on May 02, 2019, 10:12:17 AM
Thank you David and Gail.
'Rose Quarz' is also my favourite of the double ones. :)
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Leena on May 07, 2019, 09:02:07 AM
Some Helleborus in the garden yesterday.
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Post by: David Nicholson on May 07, 2019, 09:06:58 AM
A lovely series of early Spring pictures Leena.
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Guff on September 22, 2019, 09:50:42 PM
Thibetanus
Title: Re: Helleborus 2019
Post by: Guff on September 22, 2019, 10:11:29 PM
Elizabethtown hellebores

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