Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
General Subjects => Plants Wanted Or For Exchange => Topic started by: mark smyth on April 08, 2008, 04:50:07 PM
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On Saturday I saw a plant of Ranunculus delavayi growing in a frame. It was huge with the flowers pressed against the glass. To my eye this is a good alternative to R. asiaticus.
Anyone know where I can get a plant? Do you grow it? What conditions does it like?
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Ranunculus delavayi .... are you sure of the name? Not familiar to me ::)
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That's what Harold McBride called it. I'll check with him
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He says
"Yes this plant is called Ranunculus delavayii - I cannot find any ref in any book. I have grown it from seed but it has proved difficult. I passed the few I raised last year to the Taylors & some English growers"
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Ranunculus delavayi .... are you sure of the name? Not familiar to me ::)
Maggi ,
I'm not familar with Ranunculus - but the name Delavay is well know for peony friends : P. delayvayii
This was a french priest who has works in China and Tibet = Pierre Delavay
please look here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Jean_Marie_Delavay
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Thanks, Hans, yes, I know the origin of the "delavayi" part, which is of interest to all of us who are grateful to the plant hunters ofthe world...... it was just that I never heard of a ranunculus with that name.... I very much like such plants.... Incarvilea delavayi, Omphalogramma etc! 8)
Mark, I bow to the knowledge of my good friend Harold..... I'd be interested to hear if anyone here knows the plant.... ???
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Maggi - I have supposed that you know background .
A other question for Ranunculus :
I have seen before some years in a botanical garden ( in France -near the Col de Lautaret - you will know this Col from cycling ) wonderful plants of Ranunculus ....I believe the name was Ran. narcissiflora -do you know this plants ? ....I have never seen it offered....
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Interesting to think of the Col de Lautaret, a famous climb in cycling.... we have Ghent -Wevelgem tomorrow... if the TV will show it as they promise! :-\ What will the weather be like... it has rained all day here and is cold...not the weather for cycling,( not even for Luit in the Netherlands, I think ;) )
We have ... or at least we used to have... no sign of such plants as yet this year... a plant we call Anemone narcissiflora..... perhaps this may be the plant, Hans, except that it is an American species ?? It is around 40cms to 60cms tall, dull green typical ranuculus leaves, with wide spreading stems of little white flowers on quite long thin petioles.
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Ranunculus delavayi .... are you sure of the name? Not familiar to me ::)
Ranunculus delavayi does not appear as a valid name in the International Plant Name Index (which includes old synonyms but not all modern subspecies), nor in Flora of China which is where a plant with the specific epithet of delavayi would likely be!
... a plant we call Anemone narcissiflora..... perhaps this may be the plant, Hans, except that it is an American species ??
Don't know about that, Maggi, Anemone narcissiflora is a common European mountain plant ???
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Anemone narcissiflora from the Wengen area of Switzerland and the even more beautiful form with pink outer petals....
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Thank you Cliff !
Yes thats the plants that I have seen in this "Jardin Alpine"
Many thanks
Hans
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Ranunculus delavayi has never crossed my radar either (though Harold is a very, very respected member of the Ranunculaceae Society (is this still in existence)? I would be EXTREMELY interested to know where this plant hails from and even more interested in a photograph of it. Harold are you, by chance, a lurker on this wonderful forum?
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You are more than welcome Hans. It is puzzling why this beautiful anemone is not more often seen in cultivation.....shorter forms would make super exhibition plants? It can, of course, grow to 50ctms tall in the mountains.
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Ranunculus delavayi may actually be Oxygraphis delavayi which is sometimes included in Ranunculus.
Aaron Floden
Knoxville TN
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Harold doesnt watch the forum but did ask me how to find it. The society is now, alledgedly, in Ranunculaceae heaven
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Maybe ask Chen Yi ::)
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Anemone narcissiflora........ oops! Guess I should know better than to use this site to check range,
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?317722 ::) :P :o
Though, if I had used the correct page..... http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?3391 I'd have done better!
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There were magnificent Anemone narcissiflora on the Soganli Pass in Turkey.
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Cliff,
Those two pics of Anemone narcissiflora are stunning!! Wow! Like we're there with them, instead of over here on the other side of the world in my case. I have had very little to do with Anemone species. Fascinating to see so many of those and the Ranunculus in the SRGC forum pages. Always learning something knew. :D
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There were magnificent Anemone narcissiflora on the Soganli Pass in Turkey.
Have you been on your trip yet Arthur or are you just getting ready to go?
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David
We fly out of Heathrow on IRAN Air 17.00 on Sunday. Returning May 6th
Will try to send the snowdrops tomorrow.
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Just got this from George Sevastopulo
"Mark,
I had a spare moment and went chasing Ranunculus delavayi - it is Oxygraphis
delavayi in the Flora of China. You may want to relay that to Harold (I've
lost his e-mail address) and the Scottish forum.
George"
Harold McBride has given me a small seedling.
Now I need to know what this is that Harold had on show on Saturday
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Oxygraphis delavayi Franch. similar in many ways to Oxygraphis glacialis, which is often called Ranunculus kamchaticus DC. I've been watching and collecting this type of plants in the Altai, Tuva and Mongolia.
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Hello Erst, you are fortunate indeed to be able to see such plants in nature.
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:o I've just realised Harold's plant has a colony of greenfly
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Thanks Maggi Young, they are very small, growing high in the mountains, it was hard to get to them. But I was lucky, I have collected their seeds.