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Seedy Subjects! => Seed Exchange => Topic started by: Maggi Young on March 26, 2018, 01:55:57 PM

Title: Some re-identifications of Cremanthodium seed
Post by: Maggi Young on March 26, 2018, 01:55:57 PM

From Martin Hajman,‎ Tromsø, Norway


"Cremanthodium is not always easy to determinate in the  wild when seeds have already ripened and leaves are rotten or eaten.
Here you can update your labels."

some Cremanthodiums redeterminated:

C. aff. oblongatum CC – 2657 = Ligularia jamesii
C. oblongatum JJ 05-499 = C. thomsonii
C. oblongatum MP 05-206 = C. thomsonii
C. decaisnei JJ 05-15 = C. lineare
C. potaninii MP 06 – 253 = C. lineare
C. sp. VH 07-111 = C. cf. lineare
C. sp. CC-5999 = C. nervosum
C. aff. Potaninii JJH 071040 = C. lineare
C. lineare var. eligulatum JJ 08-186 = C. lineare (very narrow leaves form)
C. discoideum JJ 10-211 = C. lineare (robust form)
C. sp. MP 10-275 = C. lineare
cf. Cremanthodium CC-6746 = C. nervosum
C. sp. JJH 10/11:78 = C. lineare
C. sp. JJH 10/11:80 = C. cf. lineare
C. sp. CC-6976 = C. ellisii
C. sp. JJ 10 -215 = C. lineare
C. cf. potaninii JJ 10-209 = C. lineare
C. pleurocaule (Ligularia) MP 10-540 = C. lineare
Ligularia sp.2 BO-11-015 = C. pleurocaule (Ligularia)
C. potanini MP 11-220 = C. lineare
C. sp. BO 13-036 = C. conaense
C. sp. BO-13-037 = C. suave
C. sp. BO 14-65 = C. nobile
C. sp. Shika Shan - M.Aspaker = Ligularia melanocephala
C. decaisnei MP 10-268 = Ligularia tongolensis
C. heterocephalum MP 09-266 = Ligularia cf. tongolensis

Title: Re: Some re-identifications of Cremanthodium seed
Post by: arisaema on March 26, 2018, 02:43:44 PM

Nice to have these determined! Here are my collections:

BO-13-036   Cremanthodium sp.   Yunnan: Nujiang, Gongshan, E side of the Dulongjiang pass    3300
BO-13-037   Cremanthodium sp., lineate petals, glaucous   Yunnan: Xianggelila, Tianchi lake   3850
BO-14-065   Cremanthodium sp.   Yunnan: Nujiang, Gongshan, E side of Heipushan pass, marshland   3350   

BO-13-037 has also been sold under the following numbers: BO-14-066, BO-15-066 and W/O-7093.
BO-14-065 should be identical to BO-16-036.

Title: Re: Some re-identifications of Cremanthodium seed
Post by: Maggi Young on March 26, 2018, 03:40:45 PM

I'm not sure if  those who are not on Facebook can see this - but for those who can, here is the  Tromsø Botanic Gardens  Cremanthodium photo album

  https://www.facebook.com/pg/tromso.arktisk.alpine.botaniske.hage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1383065325130782 (https://www.facebook.com/pg/tromso.arktisk.alpine.botaniske.hage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1383065325130782)

Title: Re: Some re-identifications of Cremanthodium seed
Post by: ashley on March 26, 2018, 04:24:28 PM

Quote from: Maggi Young on March 26, 2018, 03:40:45 PM

I'm not sure if  those who are not on Facebook can see this ...

Unfortunately not :(
Now they're visible; not sure what changed :-\ :)