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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: annew on January 26, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
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I am posting here the formal description of Dryad Venus, which will act as the first publication of this variety.
DESCRIPTION
Flowering height 150 - 200mm. Leaves, plicate, spreading, approximately 70mm x 17mm at flowering time. Scapes upright. Ovary cylindrical, length:width approximately 8:5. Flower shape pyramidal. Flower length including ovary 22mm. Pedicel 90% the length of the relatively short, straight spathe.
The outer segments are usually flattened and flared outwards at the edges, giving a frilled appearance, and are approximately 14mm long by 14mm wide, white with an emerald green, inverted heart mark at the apex, sometimes bleeding back towards the base. This mark continues as green striations all the way to the base on the underside of the outer segments. 'Claw' 3mm.
The inner segments are also slightly flared at the margins, with a deep, narrow sinus. The inner segment mark is a deeper green X, the underside of the outer segments being almost entirely green, other than a white margin. The flower is scented.
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I am posting here the formal description of Dryad Gold Venus, which will act as the first publication of this variety.
Oh, is that allowed now?
Is it 'Dryad Venus' or 'Dryad Gold Venus'? Because it has green markings, hasn't it?
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Oh, is that allowed now?
It is allowed, but is seems to be not binding by the "International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants".
25.1. Publication is effected under this Code only by distribution of printed or similarly duplicated material, including indelible autograph, (through sale, exchange, or gift) to the general public or at least to botanical, agricultural, forestry, or horticultural institutions with libraries accessible to botanists, agriculturists, foresters or horticulturists generally. It is not effected by (a) communication of new names at a public meeting, (b) the placing of names on labels in collections or gardens open to the public, (c) the issue of microform made from manuscripts, typescripts or other unpublished material, (d) publication via electronic media (but see Rec. 25B.2 and Art. 26, Note 1), or (e) by publication in confidential trade lists that are not made generally available.
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Whatever the red tape...it is a very beautiful cultivar, Anne! You made a wonderful selection (as we are used to from your hand). :D
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Oh, is that allowed now?
Is it 'Dryad Venus' or 'Dryad Gold Venus'? Because it has green markings, hasn't it?
Correct! That's why it's not a Dryad Gold... :)
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It is allowed, but is seems to be not binding by the "International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants".
25.1. Publication is effected under this Code only by distribution of printed or similarly duplicated material, including indelible autograph, (through sale, exchange, or gift) to the general public or at least to botanical, agricultural, forestry, or horticultural institutions with libraries accessible to botanists, agriculturists, foresters or horticulturists generally. It is not effected by (a) communication of new names at a public meeting, (b) the placing of names on labels in collections or gardens open to the public, (c) the issue of microform made from manuscripts, typescripts or other unpublished material, (d) publication via electronic media (but see Rec. 25B.2 and Art. 26, Note 1), or (e) by publication in confidential trade lists that are not made generally available.
Thank you for clarifying that, Wim. I will be sending the proper registration documents anyway.
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Correct! That's why it's not a Dryad Gold... :)
It's not now Maggi has edited away your typographical error, Anne. I guess one of the problems with online publication is that what you publish is not necessarily fixed.
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It is in a registered online publication like the IRG which is deposited in the relevant libraries.
I rather think that typos can occur anywhere!
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It is in a registered online publication like the IRG which is deposited in the relevant libraries.
:D
I rather think that typos can occur anywhere!
Even more so when you're not writing in your native language...luckily most of them are corrected before being published.
Correct! That's why it's not a Dryad Gold... :)
One like that in yellow would be :o :o
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It's not now Maggi has edited away your typographical error, Anne. I guess one of the problems with online publication is that what you publish is not necessarily fixed.
Mea culpa... :-[
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I rather think that typos can occur anywhere!
To quote Bruce Lee, “Its like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.” ;D ;D
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Mea culpa... :-[
I make lots of typos myself but it seemed important that that one was corrected.
That's a splendid quote, Ingrid, although perhaps some credit should be given to the scriptwriter. I have a snowdrop named after a character portrayed by Bruce Lee.
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It is in a registered online publication like the IRG which is deposited in the relevant libraries.
Maggi, I think I have followed this thread but am unsure about your comment above. Can you say just a little more for the likes of me to understand your point? Thanks.
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This is something that has been covered in other discussions so I did not give full details - online publications such as the International Rock Gardener are fully registered and "deposited" with various main libraries as part of the ISSN process which gives them a similar status to printed publications.
In the same way as various academic publications are also now only online and no longer not exist in printed form, they are nonetheless "valid" publications.
I think that's the situation, simply put.
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Thanks, that's clear.
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The "rules" are different for cultivars and species descriptions - for reasons vague and undoubtedly arcane.
Most cultivar registrations are concerned with those cultivars destined for the mass market.
How many of the thousands of snowdrops currently bearing names have ever been clearly described, particularly recently? Not too many.
I congratulate Anne on her breeding work and her efforts to diseminate notes on the results as widely as possible.
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Cor, just noticed this thread, what a stunner, many congratulations Anne your breeding is so good. I just love the unusual shape and look forward to when it is generally available.
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Thanks, folks. I look forward to that too! At present I only have divisions. Although I have chipped a bulb I will have to check that the resulting youngsters are true to form before I can offer them. Another year before flowering.
I've just navigated my way through the KAVB website to the list of registered galanthus cultivars, which I hope is here: https://www.kavb.nl/zoekresultaten (https://www.kavb.nl/zoekresultaten)
A reply I had last year regarding validity of names of older cultivars not formally registered was ( I hope the registrar will not mind me repeating it here for your information) :
We have decided some time ago that all the names in the Bishop etc book are regarded as being registered. They are all-in our database, but they need correction and checking before we make them visible. By the way, one of the authors agreed to this.
Besides that we have entered also information from other books, also with permission. (KAVB has a large library)
All cultivars send directly to us and which are registered do have a proper date of registration.
Those from the books can’t be pinned down to a date, so in order to keep the information clear, we have not added a registration date. You may regard the publication date of the book, if you like, or other info on the first description.
The registrar is very helpful, and formal registration is free for breeders in the UK.
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Heads Up!
Anne Wright's Dryad Venus is now live on Ebay plus some other great drops. The photos of Venus are breathtaking!
Good hunting!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dryadzny/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dryadzny/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=)
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A reminder that Anne Wright's Dryad Venus and other specials will be finishing at around 19:00 hrs UK time tonight.
Key phrases from the listing: "double-nosed bulb", "only bulb offered this year" and "stunning new snowdrop first offering"
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dryadzny/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dryadzny/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=)
Good hunting!