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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: WimB on January 25, 2018, 03:36:12 PM
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Helleborus purpurascens TCM 10-459
Helleborus torquatus (old form, from the same batch of seedlings from which the cultivar Dido was selected)
And Helleborus niger TCM 10-449 (behind the Galanthus gracilis) from Slovenian seed
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Last saturday i spent a few time among Helleborus not far the house, all these hybrids are crossed by Thierry Delabroye.
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a few more beauties
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somes are very tempting ;D
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look at this deep color (photo 1)
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not so expensive as Galanthus you can easily lighten your wallet
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a few more :P
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this first one makes me think of a kaleidoscope
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another batch
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these one are splendid
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everything has an end ;)
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Wow, Yann... did you buy them... ALL ? ? ? :o :o :o
I went to T.Delabroye's "Portes Ouvertes" three years ago. I had been a bit disappointed by what was left of his hellebores (but delighted with Arlette Dupont's snowdrops!)...now I understand why!!!.... YOU had been there before me!!! ;D
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No, sadly my wallet doesn't allow me to buy the whole nursery ::)
I've met german, dutch, english and usual french customers, many buy between 6 to 10 plants, i guess to make the trip profitable.
First come, first serve, so if you visited the second or third opened week-end it's almost too late.
I didn't see Arlette, may be i'll see her on saturday.
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I didn't see Arlette, may be i'll see her on saturday.
Normally, you should, yes! :)
Enjoy!
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Every time I see photos of the Delabroye hellebores I think I would love to see them for myself - and every year I realise my heart is not strong enough to take that much excitement!!
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A pretty little hellebore!
It's helleborous torquatus ' little stripey'
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I'm not really a lover of Hellebores (please don't be offended - we're all different and that is to be celebrated) but I went to a local nursery yesterday for sand and grit and I walked out wih a Hellebore. And I paid full price! I know that it's not rare but Helleborus argutifolius has me smitten................
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/818/26283252517_87d191f68c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/G3yxha)Helleborus argutifolius (https://flic.kr/p/G3yxha) by longk48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35724365@N05/), on Flickr
It's the foliage. It makes it look like H.foetidus with attitude...........
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Hellabores have started to flower and there are two new double ones which I like very much. Mainly because the flowers face sideways so you can see them, but also they are very nice colour.
The first one is second generation from Elisabeth Town Helleborus, sown 2013 and the second one is from SRGC seed exchange 2012 as H.hybridus double white, though it turned out pink. It has really nice way the petals are, and also colour.
The same year 2012 from seed ex is H.niger ex semidouble, very nice (Corydalis behind it is 'Beth Evans')
Nice dark one from Ashwood seeds, it has small darker spots inside the flower though you can't see them when the flower is facing down.
The last picture is my biggest yellow Helleborus grown from Ashwood seeds. :)
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beautiful garden sights, Leena ;)
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Yes, super beautiful :) It is funny to see grown from seeds Helleborus flowering. I have my first products flowering this spring - from a double purple H. torquatus. Just one double and all the singles variations on the purple/greenish.
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I'm looking forward to more seedlings flowering in the next years ;)
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Thanks Nicole.
Gabriela, I like the middle picotee flower, it is very nice colour!
I'm looking forward to more seedlings flowering in the next years ;)
So am I, I have lots of seedlings growing now, many will flower in next couple of years if all goes well. Plants from seeds i got from Nicole don't flower yet, but are growing well. :)
I have lost some seedlings almost every winter, but I'm glad that the hardiest are left now.
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All the same with your seeds Leena, but some young sturdy plants which should bloom next spring ;)
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Some more Helleborus from yesterday.
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This Helleborus was sown in 2011 from seeds a friend of a friend had taken from the wild in Kalofer, Bulgaria.
I have thought it could be H.odorus, what do you think?
It is mostly decidous in hard winters but may keep it's leaves in a mild winter. Flowers are yellow/lime green (more yellow when they emerge), small and cup shaped.
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How beautifully your garden has emerged from the snow, Leena. You are showing a wonderful Spring display.
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Thanks Maggi. :) I have enjoyed so much of the spring flowers, right now Anemone nemorosa has started to flower, and Hellebores last quite well even in hot weather.
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It's Hellebore season in southern Australia.
We have a few and this little colony of dark purple Helleborus x hybridus started from 2002 when we planted the parent plant here.
The gardening editor of The Age newspaper in Victoria wrote an article about a friend of ours, Peter Leigh, who runs Post Office Farm in Ashbourne, near Woodend in the Macedon Ranges (about 30 minutes from our house :D
I have taken a pic of the article which I've included
cheers
fermi
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Hi Fermi, Peter and Post Office Farm Nursery certainly got some well deserved exposure over the weekend, the Gardening Australia segment was beautiful done as well as Megan’s article. Peter has bred some magnificent hellebores, thankfully we here in Australia have got access to world’s best quality, not like the frustration we suffer with some genus, that here are rare, and in other countries available at the local garden centre.
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This is a primrose-coloured Helleborus x hybridus from Peter Leigh in 2015.
We had to move it last year and it has recovered enough to flower.
Our group has a visit to Post Office Farm Nursery next weekend so we can get more!
;D
cheers
fermi
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Something about this past winter did not suit my hellebores: it was not especially cold, but a less typical pattern of warmer and colder. My 3 hellebores-- all the same no label niger cultivar/hybrid from a mainstream florist grower- which have done well for a handful of years, and remained evergreen, all died back to the ground after snowmelt and have just slowly put up a few leaves by mid-summer :( at least they aren't dead, which I thought they might be!
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Yes, super beautiful :) It is funny to see grown from seeds Helleborus flowering. I have my first products flowering this spring - from a double purple H. torquatus. Just one double and all the singles variations on the purple/greenish.
I'm looking forward to more seedlings flowering in the next years ;)
Love the singles, great colours
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This Helleborus was sown in 2011 from seeds a friend of a friend had taken from the wild in Kalofer, Bulgaria.
I have thought it could be H.odorus, what do you think?
It is mostly decidous in hard winters but may keep it's leaves in a mild winter. Flowers are yellow/lime green (more yellow when they emerge), small and cup shaped.
lovely
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Last weekend our local AGS Vic Group visited Peter Leigh's "Post Office Farm Hellebore Nursery" in Ashbourne in the Macedon Ranges.
Peter began his love affair with hellebores when he read a book on the genus in the 1980s.
He started buying in seeds from overseas from sellers such as Ashwood and Will McLewin and soon his suburban backyard was bursting at the seems.A nursery-owner friend offered him room to grow on his seedlings and called him excitedly when they started to flower - these were a step above what had been available in Australia up until then.
There was no stopping after that!
In 2002 he moved to Ashbourne and started the nursery and it has progressed ever since.
He offers mail-order but also opens the nursery each Sunday during the winter ( we got in on a Saturday 'cos we're friends ;) )
1) Sign
2) Peter gives us his introductory talk
3 & 4) Sales area
5) Trolley of big pots
Lots more to come!
cheers
fermi
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1) display bed
2) some species hellebores
3) sign for species on sale
4) display with gold leaf H. foetidus
5) Helleborus x sternii "Ashwood Strain"
cheers
fermi
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Some individual flowers of Helleborus x hybridus:
1) double pink
2) primrose with dark centre
3) double pink with light centre
4) single black
5) red-spotted single yellow
cheers
fermi
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More H. x hybridus individual flowers"
1) double black
2) double speckled pink
3) double soft pink
4) double picottee, dark edge
5) double primrose with red spots
cheers
fermi
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1) double dark purple reverse picotee
2) double white (one I bought!)
3 & 4) two different double speckled pink with dark edge
5) single yellow
cheers
fermi
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1) lightly spotted light pink
2) double pale pink dark edge
3) double dark purple
4) double speckled pink with dark edge
5) two-tone yellow-purple
cheers
fermi
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My word! What a great selection of plants - and beautifully presented - with those info boards etc - most impressive/
When I saw this, though....
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silver leaf Helleborus x sternii "Ashwood Strain"
.... I nearly fell off my seat!!! That is one STUNNING hellebore !
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Peter took us on a tour "behind the scenes":
1) Seedling areas
2) seed pots - each pot gets around 20 seeds
3) newly emerged seedlings - the late onset of the cold weather meant that germinations were later than usual
4) freshly potted seedlings - some of the 70,000 or so for the season!
5) growing on area
cheers
fermi
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silver leaf Helleborus x sternii "Ashwood Strain"
.... I nearly fell off my seat!!! That is one STUNNING hellebore !
Well, Maggi, you know Ashwood is full of quality plants ;D
And sometimes they allow other growers to get their hands on them!
cheers
fermi
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1) Some some Ashwood influence: pink H. niger x vesicarius
2) Leaf with H. niger influence
3 & 4) pink H. niger
5) double pink H. niger
cheers
fermi
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Peter then took us into the inner sanctum: the stock area where pollination and crosses are made
1) Peter among the stock plants
2) in the stock area
3) H. lividus stock plants
4) H. vesicarius
5) H. thibetanus with seed-bag
cheers
fermi
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Look at the size of those stock pots - glad I don't have to move any of those!
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Look at the size of those stock pots - glad I don't have to move any of those!
Hi Maggi,
I think they stay where they are put!
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1) Stock plant with tags - flowers which are hand pollinated get tagged so they know which seeds to bag
2) H. niger "double white" stock plants
3) "Double White" H. niger close-up
4 & 5) Stock Plants
cheers
fermi
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Last pics from Peter Leigh's Post Office Farm Nursery:
1) single black H. x hybridus stock plants
2) single yellow H. x hybridus stock plants
Peter seems to have "cracked the code" in regard to the breeding of the "new generation" of hybrids such as "Anna's Red" and "Penny's Pink"
3) H. x belcheri x H. hybridus
cheers
fermi
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Even the stock plants must need repotting quite regularly, though, don't you think?
Terrific to see the range available - especially when new introductions are tough for Australia.
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Fermi,
Thanks very much for this. Not only wonderful pictures, but I got several of my unspoken questions answered.
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Ferni, so many beautiful Hellebores!
In summer 2015 I sowed seeds of 'Onyx Odyssey', and now first of them is flowering. Out of season, but I hope some others from that sowing will flower next spring.
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1) Stock plant with tags - flowers which are hand pollinated get tagged so they know which seeds to bag
cheers
fermi
Fermi,
Do they not place a net bag over the hand-pollinated flowers to prevent insects from visiting and doing further unwanted pollination?
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Hi Carolyn,
Peter said that they wait until the pods are starting to ripen and then use gauze bags to catch the seeds. The earliest ones already had bags on them
cheers
fermi
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Fermi
Had Peter n made the belcheri x hybridus using double hybridus?
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Hi Jeff,
I don't think so; they all appeared single if I've remembered correctly
cheers
fermi
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Beautiful Helleborus Fermi! and Leena - what a nice surprise :)
I love how fast the hybrids start to bloom, comparing with the species.
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Helleborus niger
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Looks like your wee hellebore set its clocks to the wrong time, Roma!
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This one always flowers well before Christmas. It was in the garden before we moved in. I think it may have been here in my grandparents' time.
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That may be the answer, Roma - an Aunt of mine has some cracking Helleborus niger that have been in her garden "forever" - I think some of these old cultivars have really great genes!
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Helleborus cyclophyllus
a collection by Marcus Harvey
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That is a nice green Helleborus, Ashley. :)
Is it always this early or is it maybe due to weather conditions?
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Thanks Leena. Yes it's 2-3 weeks earlier than usual here, presumably due to our very mild weather recently.
Snowdrops are earlier too, and yesterday I even found a first hepatica flower :o