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Title: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on January 08, 2018, 05:53:26 PM
Four winter blooming species are in flower outside.

Colchicum szovitsii

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Colchicum munzurense

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Colchicum/Merendera mirzovae ex Idjevan, Armenia

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Colchicum/Merendera raddeana ex Igueti, Armenia

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Gail on January 08, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
Lovely photos Stefan; the Colchicum/Merendera mirzovae looks really sculptural...
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on January 09, 2018, 05:32:38 AM
Thanks Gail, probably because of low ligth levels even outside Merendera mirzovae didn't really realize that they were already out of the soil. The petals were stuck together and I had to help to open the flower.

I had the same with Merendera candidissima last year.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on January 11, 2018, 07:52:00 PM
Next two Colchicum before the snow will cover them next week.

Colchicum doerfleri from north of Elassona. The leaves are rather hairy.

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Colchicum hungaricum from Podgorica, MNE. The leaves are hairy just at the margins.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: ArnoldT on January 13, 2018, 05:23:27 PM
 Colchicum hungaricum
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on February 02, 2018, 08:06:56 PM
Colchicum doerfleri

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on February 21, 2018, 10:30:03 AM
Small "autumn" flowering colchicum which is self-seeding gently through this bed.
It was originally from the seed exchange as one of the larger species - if anyone knows what it is please let me know!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 04, 2018, 07:59:02 AM
More flowers from Colchicum NOT bivonae
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on March 05, 2018, 12:04:59 PM
Some had to wait for some weeks for enough warmth to open their flowers.

Colchicum kesselringii

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Colchicum luteum

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2018, 01:49:24 PM
Wonderful photos - a delight to see them all.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 07, 2018, 10:42:29 AM
This autumn variety is known in Australia as 'Lilac Major'.
I have asked before if anyone thinks it is 'Lilac Wonder' but no one has commented yet
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Leena on March 07, 2018, 11:07:45 AM
I am no expert at all, but here 'Lilac Wonder' has very weak stems (or what ever that part is called beneath the flower) and easily falls over. It is not an early flowering variety, more mid or late.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Tulipaholic on March 07, 2018, 07:53:11 PM
It is Colchicum byzanthinum, earlyer called C. autumnale Major.

greetings
Sjaak de Groot
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 08, 2018, 02:36:03 AM
Thank you, Sjaak and Leena,
I'll mention this to my friends who also grow it,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 11, 2018, 12:07:47 PM
This is the colchicum I got from Marcus Harvey many years ago as Colchicum "atropurpureum" which might be a form of C. cilicium
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 11, 2018, 01:39:43 PM
This Colchicum neapolitanum appears to be a bit elongated - possibly because it's in more shade now,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on March 13, 2018, 05:26:14 AM
Some more Colchicum from last sunday.

Colchicum diampolis

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Colchicum luteum

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Colchicum szovitsii

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 13, 2018, 11:10:50 AM
Among the seedlings of the NOT Colchicum bivonae is one that is staying pale pink even after it has opened
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 17, 2018, 05:55:06 AM
This colchicum was passed around our group as "Mrs Craig's Colchicum" for many years.
Otto and Viv have identified it as a form of Colchicum byzantium
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 21, 2018, 12:10:45 PM
This possibly the hybrid called 'The Giant'
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 21, 2018, 01:31:19 PM
We got this one from a friend as Colchicum autumnale but I'm not sure if it mightn't be a hybrid.
It emerges with pale flowers with just the tips of the petals coloured; as it matures the colour spreads to the entire flower,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 25, 2018, 10:57:45 AM
Another misnamed one: Colchicum NOT sibthorpiae
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 26, 2018, 11:06:31 AM
Colchicum corsicum grown from seed and planted out long before the Dymondia margaretae overgrew the area!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 30, 2018, 12:37:47 PM
I grew this Colchicum arenarium from seed sent by Betty Clarke in NZ in 2011; she said she'd originally got it from Mary Evans
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on May 27, 2018, 01:44:57 PM
A last hurrah from Colchicum "atropurpureum"
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on June 16, 2018, 01:28:06 PM
Interestingly enough Colchicum cupanii is in flower again - it flowered around this time last year which I thought was because it had been kept dry for too long.
I got this from Jon B ("Minibulb Lover" on this Forum) a few years ago and his were in flower more than a month ago!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on June 16, 2018, 10:37:37 PM
nice colors
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Rob-Rah on August 01, 2018, 03:28:04 PM
Hello everyone. This is my first post here, and it's of the first autumn Colchicum already here, 2-3 months early!

This is Colchicum byzantinum 'Innocence', which opened a few days ago.

Best wishes.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: bibliofloris on August 01, 2018, 03:58:14 PM
It’s beautiful, Rob-Rah!
Over near Seattle, some of my Cyclamen hederifolium var album are blooming a few weeks earlier than normal too. It’s been hotter than normal, so I’ve been watering more than normal, and wondered if that might be related.
Welcome from a fellow newcomer! :)
Kelly
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Maggi Young on August 01, 2018, 04:40:38 PM
Welcome, Rob-Rah! It's a crazy year, isn't it?
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: LucS on August 07, 2018, 04:10:59 PM
Two Greek colchicum in flower despite the heat :
colchicum parnassicum
colchicum euboeum
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 07, 2018, 04:19:19 PM
A pleasant surprise in your sizzling summer, Luc!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on August 20, 2018, 05:00:30 AM
Colchicum have started also here.

25 years ago I had thrown some seeds of Colchicum autumnale in my lawn. Meanwhile I have about hundred flowers every year.

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This one I have got as Colchicum borisii. I have found out that it should be a synonyme of Colchicum autumnale but it looks different.

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Recent acquisition: Colchicum kotschyi

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8 years a ago I picked up a rather small bulb from a street south of Monemvassia, Greece. It turned out to be Colchicum sfikasianum that is flowering reliably every year and multiplied well.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Harald-Alex. on August 21, 2018, 10:21:38 AM
Start of the Autumn-flower-saison  with Colchicum spec in 20.8.2018.
This is 3 weeks earlier, as last years here in Döbrichau/Germany/Saxonia
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on August 24, 2018, 09:53:34 PM
Colchicum x agrippinum and the lovely Merendera montana to start the season  ;D
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on August 25, 2018, 05:29:11 AM
I am doing it the other way round, Merendera montana is planted out and Colchicum x agrippinum is still in a pot. Both are still not visible here.

I discovered Colchicum bivonae Giona yesterday.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Rob-Rah on August 25, 2018, 02:19:04 PM
I've got the first of the C. agrippinum coming up in the garden now :) I'll post more if they put on a better display over the next weeks.

(that's some handsome fruits of Arum dioscoridis behind the first pic)
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: David Nicholson on August 27, 2018, 07:20:12 PM
Here's my Colchicum  agrippinum roughly within days of the same time last year

Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on August 27, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
agrippinum is regular as clockwork  :D
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: David Nicholson on September 03, 2018, 07:58:25 PM
Colchicum in the garden.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Maggi Young on September 03, 2018, 08:14:43 PM
Easy to see you're in the south, David  - those are miles ahead of ours.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: David Nicholson on September 03, 2018, 08:20:11 PM
What? Everytime I look at the weather forecast Aberdeen is bathed in sunshine and they're  eating ice cream as fast as they can make it ;D
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Maggi Young on September 03, 2018, 08:23:54 PM
That's  just a ruse  by the Visit Scotland folks, David!  The city is overloaded with hotel rooms and since the oil downturn the hoteliers are desperate to attract visitors! Pity none of them thought to try dropping prices!!
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Carolyn on September 03, 2018, 08:24:50 PM
Easy to see you're in the south, David  - those are miles ahead of ours.
An interesting remark, Maggi.  You might think that the drop in temperature and the rain might trigger the flowers in the north first, but this is not the case.  Could it be that they come into spring growth later, so flower later? Do a certain number of days need to pass between leaf growth and flowering?
David, super colchicums!
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Maggi Young on September 03, 2018, 08:28:36 PM
We have certainly had a drop in temperatures lately, as well as quite a bit of rain. But only one or two colchicum appearing so far.  I must admit I cannot  recall exactly when they come into leaf - so your point about the  timing from flower to leaf to flower again may well be right on the button. I'll ask Ian if he  could work this out from photos of the garden - if not - that's another project to be working on !
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on September 03, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
What? Everytime I look at the weather forecast Aberdeen is bathed in sunshine and they're  eating ice cream as fast as they can make it ;D
hihi  8)

Here's Colchicum byzantinum

Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on September 04, 2018, 05:14:46 AM
More and more Colchicum are coming out here.

Colchicum davisii

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Colchicum from Montenegro from self collected seed, any suggestions?

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Colchicum parlatoris from AGS seed

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Colchicum parlatoris from self collected seed at SW-Kefalonia. One flower damaged bei slugs, the following ones not  ;D.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on September 04, 2018, 05:19:11 AM
Some more Colchicum.

Colchicum sfikasianum, one bulb has flowered 2 weeks ago, the other three now.

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Colchicum speciosum from the mountains above Trabzon, Turkey.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on September 10, 2018, 07:35:37 PM
I'm not sure of this one i lost label, the white heart makes me think of Neptun...
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Roma on September 10, 2018, 10:57:19 PM
  Is this Colchicum laetum?

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 11, 2018, 11:24:24 AM
Colchicum x agrippinum is not difficult and not rare, but for me definitely one of the best for the (rock) garden.

The fact that it flowers together with a Delphinium grandiflorum in its second flowering is an added bonus !



Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Harald-Alex. on September 14, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
The Colchicum varieties are over aready, only the wild Colchicum flowers, as the White Alba too.
There additional is a late colchicum comming out!
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Bart on September 14, 2018, 12:51:10 PM
Colchicum x agrippinum is not difficult and not rare, but for me definitely one of the best for the (rock) garden.


They are nice, Luc. I have one that flowered earlier, and I thought that it was  C. x agrippinum too, but it probably is something else. Does anyone want to guess?

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2 days ago we had fantastic light and all Colchicums were in their prime. Again, I am not sure which hybrids they are and wheter I have C. autumnale or C. speciosum… The hoverflies don't seem to mind!

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The only ones I haven't seen yet is C. 'Harlequin' and C. speciosum 'Album'. They appear to be late here, and a lot less vigorous.

Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Leucogenes on September 14, 2018, 02:09:24 PM
Colchicum x agrippinum is not difficult and not rare, but for me definitely one of the best for the (rock) garden.

The fact that it flowers together with a Delphinium grandiflorum in its second flowering is an added bonus !


Fantastic pictures... Luc.

By the way.... when you and your botanical friends visited the arctic - alpine - garden in Chemnitz this year, I happened to be there too. I recognized you immediately. ☺

Thomas

Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: ArnoldT on September 15, 2018, 10:17:36 PM
Colchicum Princess Astrid
Colchicum byzantinum Alba

Ants seem to find them very attractive
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on September 15, 2018, 10:50:31 PM
Colchicum pusillum, these ones are from Cyprus
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 16, 2018, 04:54:34 PM

Fantastic pictures... Luc.

By the way.... when you and your botanical friends visited the arctic - alpine - garden in Chemnitz this year, I happened to be there too. I recognized you immediately. ☺

Thomas

Ah.... too bad you didn't come forward, would have been so nice to meet Thomas !
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Gerdk on September 16, 2018, 07:51:36 PM
'Simple' autumnalis here

Gerd
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Mariette on September 16, 2018, 09:35:16 PM
Not quite as simple, found today on a local site.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Mariette on September 16, 2018, 09:39:02 PM
There were others with more than the usual 6 petals. One had 6 and two additional ones of half the size. This one shows 7 petals.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: sokol on September 17, 2018, 08:21:38 AM
Colchicum variegatum grown from seed collected on Samos 2013.

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This one shall be Colchicum pusillum, it is from AGS seed. But I am not convinced that this is right.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Bart on September 20, 2018, 12:12:10 PM
Anyone an idea which one this is?
(Maggi, I didn't flip it on the computer, but it is still not right... ???)


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 ..... fixed for you ! m
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: GordonT on September 20, 2018, 09:37:33 PM
First time blooming in our garden. The foliage throws off many visitors. This combination of an unknown Colchicum variety, and Arisaema candidissimum, seems to have worked out. I had hoped that the Arisaema would have been on its way out, by this time, but it has kept a few guessing ;D

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: ArnoldT on September 21, 2018, 12:10:11 AM
Bart:

My vote would be Colchicum byzantinum Alba.  It has the purple style tips.  I've had some with an occasional purple strip down the petal as in one of yours.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 21, 2018, 11:32:30 AM

This one shall be Colchicum pusillum, it is from AGS seed. But I am not convinced that this is right.


This is Colchicum pusillum from Agios Kambos on Crete
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Mariette on September 21, 2018, 09:23:46 PM
Bart:

My vote would be Colchicum byzantinum Alba.  It has the purple style tips.  I've had some with an occasional purple strip down the petal as in one of yours.
I´d think the same. Sometimes this variety tends to revert to Colchicum byzantinum.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Bart on September 21, 2018, 10:35:29 PM
Excellent! Thank you Arnold and Marietta.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Harald-Alex. on September 22, 2018, 03:40:56 PM
Colchicum Waterlilie between Heuchera.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on September 22, 2018, 11:42:00 PM
In the wild, 400m from the sea Colchicum autumnale
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 30, 2018, 06:25:07 PM
Colchicum 'Dick Trotter'

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Colchicum 'Nancy Lindsay'

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 30, 2018, 06:28:35 PM
Colchicum cousturieri (syn. Colchicum cupanii), so tiny I almost missed it.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Mariette on September 30, 2018, 09:22:26 PM
This year, Colchicum ´Dick Trotter´looked unusually pale in my garden, at least the first flush of flowers. Maybe due to the hot, dry summer and early flowering? Now, nine days later, the new flowers look more typical.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 03, 2018, 02:16:42 PM
Colchicum 'Waterlily' looking good this year.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: David Nicholson on October 03, 2018, 06:56:35 PM
Is that one always late Ralph, all mine are over now?
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on October 07, 2018, 09:24:32 AM
same here David, this form is always late.

Colchicum cupanii, a split from Kurt Vickery
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: David Nicholson on October 07, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
same here David, this form is always late.

Thanks for the reply Yann.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 09, 2018, 06:54:19 PM
Is that one always late Ralph, all mine are over now?

Looking back to previous years photographs, David, it seems to bloom at around the same time each year.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: David Nicholson on October 09, 2018, 07:16:44 PM
Thanks for the reply Ralph.
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: olegKon on October 15, 2018, 12:08:51 PM
A double Colchicum autumnal is. Not as conspicuous as Water Lily but nice somewhat bicoloured and one of the last to flower, sometimes doesn’t have time before snow comes, anyway I enjoyed it’s flovering in April this year (picture 2). And now in its usual time.

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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on November 08, 2018, 07:18:43 PM
Lowland populations from Colchicum troodi in flower in Cyprus (pictures from one week ago )
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on November 08, 2018, 07:21:17 PM
Near Cedar Valley (elevation : 1100m ) they already have leaves ...
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Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Yann on November 11, 2018, 04:19:05 PM
Colchicum cupanii var. bertolonii
Title: Re: Colchicum & relatives 2018
Post by: Rob-Rah on January 13, 2019, 01:48:18 PM
Flowering since Dec.... but can anyone tell me if this is indeed C. hungaricum (purchased as 'Velebit Star' which it clearly isn't.....)
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