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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on January 02, 2018, 03:02:08 PM
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A selection of Allium flavum tauricum colour forms.
These were from NARGS Seedex - originally from Mark McDonough but donated by someone else.
They are now seeding into other pots!
cheers
fermi
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Bit early for alliums in the Northern Hemisphere as yet but look what I found on FB - A memory from the past of our own Onion Man, Mark McDonough ( I prefer to call him McMark !!) posted by his dear wife.....
Boston Globe article about Mark's interest in Allium - written 24 years ago
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LOL, so many ways to communicate, everything is so interconnected these days. :D
Twenty four years hence, the idea of daily and weekly newspapers seem quaint.
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In Australia daily newspapers are still rolling along quaintly but are headed for a cliff sometime ::)
Here are the typical Allium carinatum (pulchellum?)
cheers
fermi
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Allium serra
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More Allium serra with open flowers.
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Allium paradoxum var normale in the garden
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Allium egorovea in a pot in a sand bed by house foundation, outside all winter.
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Allium circinatum, zebulon allium ;)
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Allium egorovea, given to my by LucS.
Like Rimmer i grow it in pure coarse sand.
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Another memory from Sukey McDonough ....
"Another pleasant little trip down memory lane...2007 article in Horticulture Magazine that featured Mark and his Alliums. Photographer Michael Carroll took some really lovely photos. It was so hot on the days he was shooting, lugging all that equipment around, scrunching over flowers, very patiently trying to get everything just so. We were quite impressed. "
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Maggi, you're an eagle-eye, you never miss a thing :)
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Always on the lookout for items of interest to members, McMark !
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Between 2013 and 2016, the RHS trialed more than 100 allium varieties at RHS Wisley. See their pick of the 10 best top-performing alliums for late spring colour that have won an Award of Garden Merit (AGM) :
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/how-to-grow/10-best-top-performing-alliums-late-spring-colour/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/how-to-grow/10-best-top-performing-alliums-late-spring-colour/)
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I raised this allium from seed (AGS) as Allium akaka. Is this really allium akaka? I am not sure.
George
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I'm no expert George but I don't think it is, akaka should be reddish purple. I wonder if it might be Allium elbergense (https://nargs.org/photo/allium-elberzense )
Having said that I'm usually wrong on these matters.
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Thanks Dave.
It looks like allium nerbezence. This one has very exerted filaments.
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No such species with name "nerbezence". Many misspellings here, "elbergense" correct spelling is Allium elburzense, but the plant grown as akaka is definitely not Allium elburzense. Not sure what it is, but definitely not elburzense. I will look at it more closely to deliberate.
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Between 2013 and 2016, the RHS trialed more than 100 allium varieties at RHS Wisley. See their pick of the 10 best top-performing alliums for late spring colour that have won an Award of Garden Merit (AGM) :
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/how-to-grow/10-best-top-performing-alliums-late-spring-colour/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/how-to-grow/10-best-top-performing-alliums-late-spring-colour/)
I try to stick with old adage "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all", but can't help to comment on this, the writer's comment that Allium flavum is "bearing a striking resemblance to the Agapanthus" is hilarious and speaks volumes. We know better than this list, don't we?
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Yup! As is often the case, McMark!!
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Unknown allium found in woods in Greece on islands south of Athens. About 9” tall.
Any ideas?
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Allim tolmai var platyphyllum. Last week 29 April
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Some Alliums from here, all seed raised.
Allium akaka
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Allium dederianum
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Allium woronowii
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Could anyone tell me which Allium this is please. Bulbs were given to me a couple of years ago with no label.
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Allium roseum
greetings
Sjaak de groot
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Cheers for that Sjaak, many thanks.
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Allium karataviense from the garden today.
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Some Alliums are doing very well in the garden
Allium altyncolicum
Allium korolkowii
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These 3 bulbs were received as Allium shelkovnikovii. They are different. The last 2 pictures show them in close-up. Any ideas of what the paler one really is? I hope the brighter one IS Allium shelkovnikovii. Thank you.
The pictures were taken end of May
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Allium flavum thrive in the drought
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Nice, Yann - what is the plant in the background, please?
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Caloscordum neriniflorum
Codonoprasum nerinifolium from Siberia. I cannot find anything on the internet about this wonderful late blooming allium
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Wow... what a graceful beauty. A beautiful spectrum of colours and a great shape of each flower. My admiration...Rimmer.
How tall is this plant?
Thomas
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How tall is this plant?
Thomas
Flower stems are 8-10”. (22-24cm) tall. Flower umbels are 3-4” across.
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Thanks for the info...Rimmer. A truly majestic allium. I've never seen it before.
Thomas
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Codonoprasum nerinifolium from Siberia. I cannot find anything on the internet about this wonderful late blooming allium
No such thing as Cododoprasum nerinifolium. On a genus level, it's a confusion from the 1800s, Codonoprasum is a Section of the genus Allium, but even here, neriniflorum (not nerinifolium) was never part of. This Chinese outlier of the genus Allium, is Caloscordum neriniflorum. Unfortunately distinct Allium allies (like the more familiar Nectaroscordum, a valid genus in my book) have been absorbed into Allium, and so too the monotypic genus Caloscordum neriniflorum has been absorbed into genus Allium. It's a cute hardy perennial in USDA Zone 5, must get it again... the morphology of the plant is unique and different than Allium, but it gets lumped into Allium anyway.
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Allium chamaemoly is in flower again - easy to miss if you're not keeping an eye out for it!
Grown from seed from AGS Sdx 2005 collected in France, I think
cheers
fermi
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Allium wallichii. Amazing number of hoverflies on the flowers.
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What is the name of this allium?
It is sterile so I guess it is a hybrid.
It is flowering now.
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It looks to me like what forumist Mark McDonough calls 'Allium senescens glaucum of Hort (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=15005.msg385106#msg385106)'.
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Thank you Asley
I suspected it was related to A. senescens because of the flowering period but the foliage is not at all "glaucum" but green.
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Allium incensiodorum, a species from Croatia. it's a late bloomer and it has triangular stems and strap-like leaves
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Is it the same as Allium senescens montanum? I have seen it in Croatia last week and very few are already in flower at low levels.
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Hello,
Can anyone help identify (what I assume to be) an Allium from the following pictures of plants with seeds, and a close up of the seedhead. They were growing on a slope which was covered with alpenrose at 2000 metres south-east of Lake Geneva (above the town of Bex to be precise). It looks like they had rather large leaves, so my first guess was Allium victorialis, but each flower stalk had 2 seeds whereas the only seed head picture I found on the internet had a single seed per flower.
Many thanks in advance for your suggestions.
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Stefan, here's what i've found
However, S t e a r n
(1978) stated that the chromosome number could vary from 2n = 16, 24, 32, and in some
karyotypes the B-chromosomes (1-4) were described. The present investigation was addi
tionally initiated by the work of R a d ić (1989) who described the populations from the Mt
Biokovo region investigated herein under the name A. incensiodorum. The plants in these
populations differ in certain morphological characteristics and in flowering time from the
original species, A. senescens ssp. montanum. In A. incensiodorum the pedicels are ribbed
and scabrid with papillae of very different sizes, the leaves are slightly ribbed and angular
above, and perianth is stellate, having segments with large pepillae especially on the keel
(R a d ić 1989). This onion flowers in the summer. In our work we used the name A.
senescens ssp. montanum despite the fact that G r e g o r y et al. (1998) in Alliorum Nomen-
caltor accepted the name A. incensiodorum proposed by R a d ić ( 1989) as a synonym.
i also grow Allium lusitanicum (ex senescens montanum) from Pyrénées and Alps, both have almost spheric umbels.
In the case of incensiodorum it's hemispheric, the plant is also shorter. But lusitanium is very variable and i've seen in the wild several population with hemispheric umbels. Simply add to the confusion!
Here's lusitanicum in my garden
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https://www.zobodat.at/stable/pdf/LBB_0030_2_0815-0830.pdf (https://www.zobodat.at/stable/pdf/LBB_0030_2_0815-0830.pdf)
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Thanks Yann, so mine are probably incensiodorum too.
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I think so