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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on January 02, 2018, 02:28:13 PM
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First flowers open today on a reflexed type Orienpet Lilium, 'Mr Cas'.
It looks quite good this year after a wetter than usual early summer
cheers
fermi
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Another Orienpet (Oriental x Trumpet) Lilium hybrid - we bought it a few years ago without a label but I think it is 'Belladonna'.
The scent is particularly glorious but I wonder how these lilies will be affected by the expected 41oC on Saturday :-\
cheers
fermi
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Lilium martagon Rubrum with a fasciated flower bud in Ken's garden. Those are all flower buds we think. Should be quite a bizarre sight.
johnw
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Nomocharis aperta
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two Lilium grayi and the inside of a flower from the one with four flowers
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Oh, that colour and those markings on the Lilium grayi !! 8)
And the endless charm of Nomocharis - Liliaceae is such a great plant family
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Where have I been all these years?! The lilies shown are beautiful (well, the L. martagon is more in the interesting category). Claire, did you grow the Nomocharis from seed? If so, how many years did it take to produce flowers?
Sally
South of Lewiston, Idaho Zone 5ish
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Lilium grayi is a dream Tony and one of my dream lilies. But the soil or climate doesn't fit here and all seedlings die young. Most American lilies are difficult here.
Others are doing better here.
Lilium chalcedonicum, not easy here but this one seems to like its place in front of a Thuja.
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Lilium tsingtauense, well established in the garden.
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Lilium lijiangense, one of the easiest in my garden.
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Lilium humboldtii, first year to be in flower. I hope to have it for some years.
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We were in the south of Bavaria last week and it was very hot and I understand why L. grayi will not grow there. I live in NW England where apart from this year when we have had several weeks of sunshine and no rain it is usually cold and wet ,miserable.
My L. chalcedonicum are all just in bud. Where I have found it in the wild it has always been under trees ,quite high but very dry in summer.
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Hi, Sally,
I grow a lot of liliaceous plants from seed, including nomocharis. Most take 7 years from planting. A few are more precocious. Seed growers have to have loads of patience. :)
...Claire
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With a bit of luck it is possible to get flowers on Nomocharis in under 4 years.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1722/40987455620_e2b66e638d_o_d.jpg)
-Nomocharis sp. nova BO 14-125; seed collected Yunnan: Nujiang, Fugong, downhill from Yaping pass. The seed was sown in December 2014. This looks to be N. aperta(??).
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/883/42749583932_8557cb2df5_o_d.jpg)
-Nomocharis “basilissa” - Yunnan: Nujiang, Fugong, Yaping pass, 3400m BO 13-067. Sown in January 2014 and flowering for the first time this year. Sadly it is not N. basilissa but probably another form of N. aperta(??)
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Claire and Steve, thank you for the information about Nomocharis. Thanks to all who contribute such lovely photos for us to enjoy.
Sally
South of Lewiston, Idaho. Zone 5ish
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The seed was sown in December 2014. This looks to be N. aperta(??).
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Sown in January 2014 and flowering for the first time this year. Sadly it is not N. basilissa but probably another form of N. aperta(??)
My fault, they would indeed both key as N. aperta in FoC. I'm actually in Fugong right now, heading to Yaping Yakou on the 22nd. 2013 was my first time there and I had never seen anything in flower, so "basilissa" was a mistake based on the one record of Nomocharis I had from that location. It grows there, so hopefully I'll have a picture or 5 in two days time.
Gao's DNA work in his paper describing N. gongshanensis showed the Yaping plants to be different from his N. aperta (=N. forrestii) sample from Xianggelila. They are certainly much taller, growing to 1.5m or more - far taller than the Lilium apertum type from near Biluo Xueshan. I thought the Yaping plants had blue pollen, but my pictures might be fooling me as one of your's clearly show the pollen is yellow. If so this would make them N. aperta, with N. forrestii being a valid species (if you trust Gao's paper).
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Plants from E Biluo Xueshan below, taken 2 days ago, close to the type location for Lilium apertum:
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The tall ones, growing among bamboo, at Yaping Yakou below. I think someone at Edinburgh named it as a form back in the early 20th century.
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Many thanks Bjørnar.
Will there be any possibility of seed of N. basilissa this year?
I crave plants like:
https://www.the-genus-lilium.com/images/Lilium/n_basilissa02.jpg (https://www.the-genus-lilium.com/images/Lilium/n_basilissa02.jpg)
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http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=585.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=585.0) (Is this basilissa or something else?)
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Lilium bakerianum var aureum
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Will there be any possibility of seed of N. basilissa this year?
Hopefully, if we can locate it - and get to the location. China-Myanmar relations are a bit bad right now, and foreigners aren't really allowed. We were held for half an hour at a check-point heading back from Ega yesterday, while they looked through all our photos to satisfy themselves we weren't spies or missionaries ::)
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=585.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=585.0) (Is this basilissa or something else?)
That's just N. saluenensis, from Heipushan, I've offered seeds quite a few times in the past.
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Lilium bakerianum var aureum
That's really nice! Is there any chance I could get pictures of the inside of the flower and foliage?
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Hopefully, if we can locate it - and get to the location. China-Myanmar relations are a bit bad right now, and foreigners aren't really allowed. We were held for half an hour at a check-point heading back from Ega yesterday, while they looked through all our photos to satisfy themselves we weren't spies or missionaries.
-You certainly risk being accused of spreading the Cult of the Lily. ;)
That's just N. saluenensis, from Heipushan, I've offered seeds quite a few times in the past.
-I hoped that was the case; I have some seedlings coming on.
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That's really nice! Is there any chance I could get pictures of the inside of the flower and foliage?
Sorry cannot help with this years flower. I have just got back from holiday and the flower was just at the end of its life and the foliage was lost in the heat/ drought whilst I was away.
However here is a picture from 2016 when in fact it was much more yellow
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Lilium bakerianum
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Special but very nice, Tony ;)
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This is Nomocharis aperta which I have grown from Lily group seed ex seeds, sown 2014 and survived outside couple of bad winters. It is now flowering for the first time. :)
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Some lilies from earlier this month.
Lilium mackliniae
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/891/42749584892_4909b382b1_o_d.jpg)
Lilium mackliniae -dark form sometimes referred to as Lilium chitrangadae
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/887/42749584732_a7c6ae96fc_o_d.jpg)
Lilium nanum
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Lilium oxypetalum var. insigne
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Lilium rubellum -the delicate pink is best appreciated in shade.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1723/42749585402_65929088d8_o_d.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1756/41898927255_f89d5da108_o_d.jpg)
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Some aurelian seedlings blooming now
‘The Yeti’
Pointy Seedling
Martie and Freda’s Kinky Daughter
CK seedling
AM07/3155-29 seedling
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Lilium martagon Rubrum with a fasciated flower bud in Ken's garden. Those are all flower buds we think. Should be quite a bizarre sight.
johnw
Well it's opening now and needed to be staked. Ken says it has close to 100 flowers coming on the fasciation alone. A bizarre sight.
johnw
16.6c & overcast
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Wow! Never seen such a flower-filled fasciation. I wonder if all the blooms will be able to open properly. I'm a bit surprised it's got along as far as this.
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It certainly appears all are progressing and will open normally. We were sure they'd abort.
john
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Here's one fresh from the field, pics taken 3 days ago in southeastern Lijiang, at a subtropical 1200m altitude. It should be L. bakerianum v. yunnanense, it matches the type and Sealy's description - which makes you wonder what species they're talking about in Flora of China?
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That’s a bonny lily.
Currently I have a subtropical garden ........but no Monsoon!
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Martagon lilies are flowering here now. For the first time is flowering really nice dark L.martagon var cattaniae. :) it has really hairy buds, more hairy than any other I have seen.
In the third picture there is a hybrid 'Jaunie Varti', it opens from pink buds to pale yellow flowers which fade to cream soon.
Fourth and fifth pictures are of a lily that grew from open pollinated seed of white L.martagon in my garden. I suspect the father was 'Marhan', and old variety here in Finland because at the time it was the only one of that type I had.
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Some other named lilies
'Congo Capers', which I like a lot but which doesn't increase.
'Claude Shride'
'Arabian Night', a very good increaser in my garden.
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Wow Leena, those martagons are gorgeous! I have grown 'Claude Shride' but sadly lost it when it got overgrown by a Leicesteriana. I am growing various martagons from seedex seed but they are very slow to develop, I am 3 years in and I bet at least another 3 away from a first flowering...
Lilium pardalinum is defying the dry conditions. it was interesting to see how their shape changes from opening at dusk, to fully open the next day. Also most flowers opened on the same day, but in different locations.
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L. pardalinum
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L. pardalinum
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L. pardalinum
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L. martagon 'Rubrum' fasciated. And more to come.
Elegant it's not.
johnw
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Leena, those martagons are gorgeous! I have grown 'Claude Shride' but sadly lost it
Thanks. :) 'Claude Shride' is flowering now for the first time for me, it has very nice dark flowers. :)
Spring comes so late here, but by this time of summer, many flowers are flowering here at the same time as in more southern countries. Also L.pardalinum is starting to flower now, and L.canadense.
John, is your lily like that every year or is this an exception? It has a nice colour anyway. :)
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Leena - No, this fasciation just appeared this spring. The original bulb and offsets of it are flowering normally.
johnw
23c & sunny
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Wow Leena, beautiful martagons!
John - that's such an oddity!
I take it you don't have yet problems with the lily beetle in the region?
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For one reason or another I always seem to miss the flowering of Lilium lijiangense but not this year. Many thanks to GoteS for the seed back in 2008.
john
15c & foggy
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L. martagon 'Rubrum' fasciated. And more to come.
Elegant it's not.
johnw
Bruno Nicolai posted this photo in Facebook of a fasciated lily in the garden of Blarney Castle ......
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When I was on holiday in July my cardiocrinum cordatum red flower form bloomed.
These pictures are from Heinz-Georg Meyer http://www.juttas-staudengarten.de/ (http://www.juttas-staudengarten.de/)
Sigi
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C.cordatum red flower form
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I get pollen for burmanicum after 10 years. I didn't expect it. I'm very happy about it.
Sigi
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L. primulinum var. burmanicum
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Hello Maggi,
Thanks for the correction.
Sigi
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Happy to help, Sigi.
Super plants!
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When I was on holiday in July my cardiocrinum cordatum red flower form bloomed.
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Hi Sigi,
wow! :o what a colour!
Do you know the origin of this colour form?
cheers
fermi
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Hello Fermi
Sorry, I only saw the message now.
I received this lily in 2008 from Mrs. Chen Yi. She was excellent as Lilium nepalense var. burmanicum.
Best regards
Sigi
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Lilium poilanei -flowers too late to set viable seed.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1939/45114525782_8e570ae691_o_d.jpg)
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That is gorgeous, Steve. Thanks for posting.
...Claire
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What a beauty! Fab picture, as always. Thanks!