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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Blonde Ingrid on January 01, 2018, 05:27:10 PM
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This morning's patrol was a delightful Hogmanay treat as some of Ian Christie's Scottish drops came into flower!
First up, G. p. Grant Colvin, a new one from Ian and named after his grandson. A lovely distinctive inner mark, with a darker green. It has increased for me and is a good garden plant even in the tropics of East Anglia. Definitely striking and one for the list.
Next, one of the 'Castle Eyes Series' AKA 'Lost Label' when it arrived! :) Growing very well and increasing.
Lady Alice, still in flower and very vigorous, a lovely light green inner mark.
Ian's drops are sparingly named and absolutely superb!
His new list is due in a week or so, so good hunting, I know I will! :)
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Yes, Ian's plants are always excellent quality. Looking forward to his list...
In spite of extremely warm weather most of my snowdrops are still in bud (as 'Godfrey Owen' on the photo).
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Godfrey Owen is in full swing in my garden in Germany since the 30th, but the snails discovered this pretty soon. Too soon >:(
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Oh dear.... Slug pellets are the only solution
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Found this lovely clump of an unnamed nivalis today with an unusually long pedicel
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It's nice to see some flowers in the garden this time of the year! The big clump of Geoffrey Owen is amazing and the unnamed nivalis is very elegant!
I found that some of the mixed G. nivalis seed that my friend kindly sent to me in late spring 2015 has germinated. It was funny that I divided the seeds into two pots when I received them and one pot’s worth already geminated in the spring of 2016 and I actually planted them in the ground last year. The I thought I treated the two pots the same way but this one never did anything until now. I’m glad that they both have germinated!
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Had to fill my pockets with bricks on this morning's patrol, very stormy.
First up, another new one from Andy Byfield called 'Aunt Nellie Danglers' (Still prefer Fred Bassett!).
Described by Andy as a "clone of Galanthus elwesii that came from a garden on the Midvale Ridge". It is very lovely and a great addition to Andy's series.
Next Schlyters Dwärg from, Andreas Händel, described as "a hybrid of G. nivalis and G. gracilis". It is diminutive but is bulking well.
Finally, a favourite of mine Seraph, from my swaps & spares bunker. Clumps readily for me in the garden.
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It's nice to see some flowers in the garden this time of the year! The big clump of Geoffrey Owen is amazing and the unnamed nivalis is very elegant!
I found that some of the mixed G. nivalis seed that my friend kindly sent to me in late spring 2015 has germinated. It was funny that I divided the seeds into two pots when I received them and one pot’s worth already geminated in the spring of 2016 and I actually planted them in the ground last year. The I thought I treated the two pots the same way but this one never did anything until now. I’m glad that they both have germinated!
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I've had the same experience, Pippa. Seed seems to be very sensitive to the smallest differences in climate/soil/treatment/company
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I've had the same experience, Pippa. Seed seems to be very sensitive to the smallest differences in climate/soil/treatment/company
Good to know, Anne! :) I always keep the empty-looking pots for at least three years and I have had similar experiences with other seeds, but I was wondering if there might have been something wrong because the other pot had been growing so well.
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Yes it is strange - I also keep my "empty" pots for a long time (it is best to forget them ;)). I had the same experience with Hepatica seed. Some of them only germinated 3 years after sowing, some germinated immediately!
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Anne Wright's new introduction Eilys Elisabeth Hartley looking stunning in the garden today. The variation of the green on the inners is delicious and the mark/texture of the outers sublime.
I believe one of these may be offered on Ebay for charity today!
Second, Dryad Gold Sovereign getting ready to do it's stuff. Only been in place two years but the number of flowers and shoots tell me that this will need placing in a bigger pot in the dormant period. A not uncommon experience with Anne's drops.
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Ingrid - I edited your post to right one of the pix.
I am also horrified at how much better you grow these plants than I do! grrr!
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I see that 'Eilys Elisabeth Hartley' is already at £255 so here is an idea, if you wanted one and can't afford that, why not make a donation to the charity instead ;)
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Yes, that’s what I did too.
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Galanthus transcaucasicus seed from Pilous collected Nagorny Karabach
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Galanthus reginae-olgae ssp vernalis from the Vicos Gorge,Greece
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I see that 'Eilys Elisabeth Hartley' is already at £255 so here is an idea, if you wanted one and can't afford that, why not make a donation to the charity instead ;)
Yes, that’s what I did too.
Yes, I did that - such a good cause.
This is the link to the ebay offering : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galanthus-Eilys-Elisabeth-Hartley-superb-first-time-offering/263417812472?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galanthus-Eilys-Elisabeth-Hartley-superb-first-time-offering/263417812472?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649)
and again , the link to the charity where donations can be made : http://www.actsma.co.uk/ (http://www.actsma.co.uk/)
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Some pics of Galanthus sp grwing in the wild. Flowering from the end of December until mid to late January. Elevation 250 m facing North, among trees (deciduous).
Can someone help me out with identification? Looks like reginae olgae the Spring flowering version.
George Papapolymerou
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They really look like Galanthus reginae-olgae, I think. Very nice to see them growing wild like this!
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Galanthus transcaucasicus seed from Pilous collected Nagorny Karabach
You´re lucky to grow a seedling with green inners, congratulations! My first G. transcaucasicus seedling from Pilous, seed received in 2014, is flowering, too. Alas, grown in the border, it looks rather weather-beaten.
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I went to an orchid show in Tokyo yesterday and found some luxury snowdrop pots in a stall ::) ;D
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Are they priced at 10800 Yen? If so, that would be about £70 which is approximately 3 times what they would cost in the UK. Given the difficulties of exporting snowdrops, that does not seem unreasonable. 'Trumps' is a particularly vigorous snowdrop, possibly a 'Trym' / elwesii hybrid. And 'Godfrey Owen' is a beautiful snowdrop which is also not lacking in vigour. Both would be worth having in your collection.
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Can someone help me out with identification? Looks like reginae olgae the Spring flowering version.
I see no reason to doubt that those snowdrops are reginae-olgae. Depending on where they evolved and where they now grow, reginae-olgae can flower any time from September to March (or possibly later).
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Are they priced at 10800 Yen? If so, that would be about £70 which is approximately 3 times what they would cost in the UK. Given the difficulties of exporting snowdrops, that does not seem unreasonable. 'Trumps' is a particularly vigorous snowdrop, possibly a 'Trym' / elwesii hybrid. And 'Godfrey Owen' is a beautiful snowdrop which is also not lacking in vigour. Both would be worth having in your collection.
Thank you for your practical advice as usual, Alan. Yes, they are JPY 10,800-.
I've already got the one of them from a generous SRGC member and the others are not for me for their price at the moment.
By the way, how did you recognise 'Trym' is in the pot tray? I didn't mention it :o
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Took some drops to Church today…. Hopefully they might open a bit more if the heating works ahead of tomorrow morning's service!! Either-way I think they look nice.
Galanthus elwesii ‘Mrs Macnamara’
Tim DH
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Some pics of Galanthus sp grwing in the wild. Flowering from the end of December until mid to late January. Elevation 250 m facing North, among trees (deciduous).
Can someone help me out with identification? Looks like reginae olgae the Spring flowering version.
George Papapolymerou
George they look just the same as the ones I am growing from the Vicos Gorge which have been identified as G.r-o ssp vernalis. What area were yours in?
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Tony they are flowering now 500 m past the village of Pyli (17 km W from the town of Trikala), going from Pyli 150-200 m) to Pertouli (1200 m). Foothills of Central Pindus mountains. Well away from Vikos the gorge.
George
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George,not too far away from where you live. An interesting colony in Central Greece. I suppose there must be many more amongst the different mountains. Probably more widespread than previously thought
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... Probably more widespread than previously thought
In the past, botanists had to go out and explore in order to find new plants or new habitats for known plants. Now, with the widespread use of the internet, people posting about plants growing in their locale represent an alternative source of such botanical information.
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Here is the mighty Glenorma starting to stretch itself in today’s sunshine. Petal length 41mm so far and not yet looking waspish. No fasciation this year, but still not a ‘consistent’ cultivar. Only about a third of the flowers are ‘full sized’ and there are a few oddities, including one with four petals.
Tim DH
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George,not too far away from where you live. An interesting colony in Central Greece. I suppose there must be many more amongst the different mountains. Probably more widespread than previously thought
My subsp. vernalis from above the Vikos George looks very similar to those from Pyli - Pertouli. They also have these narrow sepals. All other collections from western Greece have broader sepals.
The flowering time is also interesting. The lowland plants usually start flowering here in December while the plants from the mountains begin 4 to 6 weeks later. I have planted them close together last autumn to observe if this is constant or depending on the particular place in my garden.
My northernmost finding was close to Virpazar in Montenegro last year, the seed has already germinated. I suppose they are distributed all along the coast from Greece to Montenegro maybe even to Croatia.
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I went to an orchid show in Tokyo yesterday and found some luxury snowdrop pots in a stall ::) ;D
Interesting - the label for Trumps looks like it has been cut out of the Avon Bulbs catalogue!! I wonder who the seller was? :)
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My northernmost finding was close to Virpazar in Montenegro last year, the seed has already germinated. I suppose they are distributed all along the coast from Greece to Montenegro maybe even to Croatia.
If this is of interest - I found 'vernalis' above Kotor - which is a little bit closer to Croatia.
Gerd
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Thanks Gerd, of course it is. Would you please PM me the place as I will return this year to Montenegro and Albania during the Easter holidays.
Galanthus reginae-olgae vernalis from Albania
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Morning patrol in sunlight, what joy!
First up Hughes Emerald, a real favourite of mine, with lovely markings. I wondered during the Summer whether to lift and split this variety. Thought I would leave it for a year, big mistake, it is now bursting the pot.
Next, Oirlicher Elf, one I picked up from the Thorps. Lovely inner markings.
Florence Baker finally opened, big and bold and clumping well.
Last a gorgeous C. coum, one of a number I got from Melvyn Jope, specially selected by him for deep colour and leaf pattern combination.
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In january opens first time my snowdrop garden with ca 120 different varieties and seedlings
Foto 1: The entrance of my snowdropgarden
Foto 2: The G. r-o Elenii from Jan Christie started middle october and flowers till 10.1.18
Foto 3: The TOP 25 of the best British snowdrops grow here the second saison!
Foto 4: Three Ships sails with full opened flowers
Foto 5: a seedling of G. elwesii with six white flowerleaves
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Dear Harald-Alex,
Nice to see photos of your Snowdrops and your garden. Most of us in the U.S. are buried in snow so far and I have not seen many drops since the G. r-o that bloomed in autumn and a couple very early elwesii.
That is a handsome double elwesii seedling...
Rick
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Good luck with your opening Harald-Alex!
Ingrid that Hughes Emerald is well named, lovely markings.
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Foto 5: a seedling of G. elwesii with six white flowerleaves
It looks as if it is really two flowers fused together, the lines on the receptacle give this away. 'Mrs Thomson' sometimes produces similar flower forms. However they are rarely reproducible from one year to the next
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We had less than 5 hours of sunshine last month, it took ´J.Haydn´4 weeks to open its flowers.
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The first G. woronowii opened their flowers, too.
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Ingrid that Hughes Emerald is well named, lovely markings.
Anne, Ingrid, the correct name is 'Emerald Hughes' it's a play on words. Comes from Denis Hughes of Blue Mountain Nurseries in New Zealand. For some reason the name was transposed here but I think the New Zealand members of the forum would say it was definitely 'Emerald Hughes'
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Good luck with your opening Harald-Alex!
Ingrid that Hughes Emerald is well named, lovely markings.
Thanks Anne! I do like Hughes Emerald, it grows very well for me. When I knock it out in the Summer, I will sort you out a bulb! :)
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http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12056.msg309409#msg309409 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12056.msg309409#msg309409)
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if you want to buy Galanthus Emerald Hughes, with the correct name, this is the page from the originating nursery.
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Sadly, Blue Mountain don't ship to the UK apparently.
However you can buy it from Green Mile Nursery where I got mine:
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or you could get it from Glen Chantry, if they have any this year, last year it was:
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The variation in the name in the UK is mentioned in Freda Cox.
Personally, as the snowdrop is known by both names, I won't get too excited, I have more important things to do.
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Lovely snowdrops again, and I love the view from Mariette's garden (in the previous page). :)
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Lovely snowdrops again, and I love the view from Mariette's garden (in the previous page). :)
Leena,
I could not agree more on Mariette's Snowdrop setting. A fine Snowdrop garden vignette.
Rick
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http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12056.msg309409#msg309409 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12056.msg309409#msg309409)
see also : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=110.msg52331#msg52331 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=110.msg52331#msg52331) from 2008
There is obviously a lot of confusion over this plant - mentions of both names are scattered over the forum over some years - at least the two names are close enough to allow one to "suspect" that they are the same plant - which is more than can be said about some other 'drops!
Happily, in a searchable forum, open to all, such as this, researches can be made on the subject and people may draw their own conclusions.
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From the Facebook Page of Blue Mountain Nurseries:
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Thanks Alan, you illustrate the point Chris made in 2008 about the original appellation of 'Emerald'
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Morning patrol in sunshine here fleetingly, but some nice surprises.
First up, Dryad Gold Ingot, an addition to Anne's Tier 1 yellows. This one has a lovely distinctive olive/chartreuse green inner marking. A beautiful addition to the Dryad range and will be bulking as we speak.
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Next Golden Fleece, which did not flower for me last year, instead producing an offset, no harm no foul. Not sure I rate this as a Tier 1 yellow drop as it is still a little greenish for my liking, as yet.
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Finally, Green Tear, it will never replace the best virescent in my view, Morgana, but it is beautiful in the sunlight.
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This one really stood out for me this morning, 'Copton Trym' a Trym seedling from the garden of forumist Tim Ingram.
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Ingrid,
Great fun to see these terrific new or newer introductions and grown so well!
And Alan, I have never seen a photo of 'Copton Trym'. Very cool to know the garden and forumist who grew it originally as well. A true beauty, so congratulations to you for growing it well and posting it for the rest of us to enjoy. And of course, a special thanks to Tim Ingram.
Rick
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'Copton Trym' is a very good snowdrop growing well over here, too :). It is vigorous and has gone through two cold winters with no problem and even multiplied. It is doing much better than 'Trymming' which hasn't multiplied at all (though it is growing in a different bed). Thank you so much Tim!
Last summer I planted 'Trympostor' close to 'Copton Trym', it will be interesting to compare them and hopefully bees go to both of them and I get seeds, as at least CT is fertile. :)
Finally, Green Tear, it will never replace the best virescent in my view, Morgana, but it is beautiful in the sunlight.
What are the differences why you prefer Morgana? It would be interesting to know as i don't have either one. ;)
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Here is a picture of my 'Copton Trym' last spring, April 26th.
It is always agony to wait spring over here, pictures help. :)
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What are the differences why you prefer Morgana? It would be interesting to know as i don't have either one. ;)
Hi Leena,
For me Morgana fulfils both aspects I am looking for:
It is beautiful in shape and colour, to my mind the most beautiful virescent.
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It is also a great garden plant in that it is robust and bulks quickly. Last year I split my pot into several satellite pots and replanted around the garden.
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The second shot was a single bulb I had left over, about the size of a snooker ball. The other clumps are the same.
There are many other Tier 1 drops, in my view, Rosemary Burnham, Castle Green Dragon, Northern Lights, Andrea's Fault and the Nova Goricas that are beautiful, some are good garden plants to boot, but for me Morgana is Number 1. Hope this helps.
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Here is a picture of my 'Copton Trym' last spring, April 26th.
It is always agony to wait spring over here, pictures help. :)
Thanks for showing ´Compton Trym´, Alan and Leena! The soft green marks are really pleasing and make a difference to the many Trym-children!
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It is beautiful in shape and colour, to my mind the most beautiful virescent.
Thank you. :)
'Morgana' is very green, the outers are much greener than in my 'Rosemary Burnham', which had two flowers last spring to it's one flower the previous spring so it seems to like it here.
Picture April 21st 2017
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Afternoon patrol in the sunshine!
First Ecusson D'or' (Simon Savage Var.) looking delightful with the stronger outer markings. Clumping nicely as well.
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Next G.n. Snow Angel, amazing elongated pedicel and lovely markings. Originally from the Ince Estate in Cornwall.
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Next, Beany, this year with slightly less green marks on the outers.
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Eilys Elisabeth Hartley, one of Anne's new introductions, still looking wonderful. I like this one more and more.
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Rosemary Burnham which remains a firm favourite.
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Alan, Leena, thanks for mentioning our 'Trym' seedling - 'Copton Trym' (note not 'Compton' - we often get called this but the garden is in the manor - not ours! - of Copton just on the outskirts of Faversham). We seem quite a bit behind quite a few of these posts, most snowdrops only really just beginning to come up strongly. 2017 was exceptionally dry here, even with autumn rains, and must have delayed root growth of many varieties. 'Copton Trym' does seem a good doer, in this picture its just appearing just off-centre in the middle foreground.[attachimg=1]
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On Sunday, in the garden, the Galanthus begin to flower. Godfrey Owen is very early this year.
Galanthus elwesii 'Godfrey Owen'
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Galanthus elwesii 'Kyre Park'
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Galanthus elwesii 'Mrs Macnamara
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Galanthus alpinus :)
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Dear Harald-Alex,
Nice to see photos of your Snowdrops and your garden. Most of us in the U.S. are buried in snow so far and I have not seen many drops since the G. r-o that bloomed in autumn and a couple very early elwesii.
That is a handsome double elwesii seedling...
Rick
thank You Rick, I hope the amounts of snow aand frosts in Your home ends soon. Here in germany we have a very warm inter this year (till now) and thats why after the G. r-o the G. elwesiis and als the fitst g. nivalis opens their flowers. In my snowdrop-garden I enjoy more than 200 snowdropflowers now!
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Good luck with your opening Harald-Alex!
Ingrid that Hughes Emerald is well named, lovely markings.
Thank You Annew for Your wishes. I like snowdrops many years but seriosly started to collect snowdrop varieties 3 years ago after my retirement and a snowdroptravel 2015 to East England f.i. Walsingham and Anglasey Abbey! Now I have ca 120 different varieties and the TOP 25 of the best british snowdrops.
This year I collected especially G. r-o, got some bulbs from Ian Christie and they started in 2.10.2017 to flower! Thats why in my snowdropgarden the saison ca six month from begin october to begin april!
In the last years I found some seedlings from G. elwesii, some of them You can see in the fotos.
The interest in snowdrops here in germany grows and I look forward the visitors!
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Morning patrol in bright sunshine again before the storm!
First, Margaret Biddulph, one of my favourite virescents. Grows well for me and has also made my swap/spares bunker this season. Not often mentioned amongst the best virescents but it is certainly in the running. Our own Paul Barney has it on his list and may have some, for those interested and going to Harvey's on Saturday.
Next Lucy, lovely clear markings and bulks well.
Next Caprea 1275 from Paul Barney. Delightful shape to the flower.
Finally, Betty Hansell a double, one of the weird drops but very distinctive.
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Galanthus gracilis from Mt.Pangeo
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Galanthus gracilis from Mt.Pangeo
I think G.gracilis is the prettiest of all snowdrops.
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In this week's Bulb Log, Ian is pondering the difficulties of making photos in dim weather - but he also comments about the different temperatures at which flowers - in this case, galanthus, will open their flowers..... 'Glenorma' a substantial beauty from Wol and Sue Staines at Glen Chantry, is willing to open the blooms at just +0.5 degrees C air temperature - the ground temp. was minus 3.5 degrees C
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I think G.gracilis is the prettiest of all snowdrops.
I'd certainly agree with that!
john
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Piece in the Telegraph on snowdrops by Val Bourne :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/how-to-grow/hot-trail-elusive-gold-snowdrops/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/how-to-grow/hot-trail-elusive-gold-snowdrops/)
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Nice comparison of two great virescents on this morning's patrol.
First Simpy Glowing, clumping nicely and with it's lovely yellow green outer markings that give it it's name.
Contrasted with Rosemary Burnham, about four feet away.
Very different looking virescents, Simply Glowing more vigorous for me and both superb.
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Odd the notions that pop into one's head - looking at that pic of 'Simply Glowing' I found myself thinking that the flower would make a smart lampshade which would give a restful light..........
(Don't fret - I'm sitting down now with a nice cup of coffee to calm myself!) ::)
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Odd the notions that pop into one's head - looking at that pic of 'Simply Glowing' I found myself thinking that the flower would make a smart lampshade which would give a restful light..........
(Don't fret - I'm sitting down now with a nice cup of coffee to calm myself!) ::)
Good idea Maggs, it does have a wonderful ghostly glow. :D :D
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Good idea Maggs, it does have a wonderful ghostly glow. :D :D
Perhaps a project I need to discuss with the clever Emma Thick - she's nifty at that sort of work.... sure she could conjure up a natty prototype....
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Anyway, so about the snowdrops...
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You will find that one of the best points about this Forum is the side 'chat'. Sometimes, and especially so between say December and March, it can get get pretty regularised and often boring for some of us!
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Thanks David, it wasn’t meant to be a serious comment. I was enjoying the side chat too.
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Quite a mixed bag on this morning's patrol.
First up, another great virescent Andrea's Fault from Andy Byfield. Looks wonderful in the sunshine and is increasing well.
Then Ghost, a new one last year which has also increased. Don't let the pale look fool you, it is vigorous. I will be interested to compare this to the Estonian yellows.
Then another from Ian Christie, Eyebright Early. I do like this one and again it is bulking well.
Finally Hughes Emerald continues to impress, lovely clump but will need splitting in the dormant period.
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Andrea's fault is a beauty, so green! Hughes Emerald delightfully chunky - it looks blast proof!
Meanwhile, back here Galanthus Dryad Gold Ribbon is about to make an entrance. Selected very early in our assessment programme for its very prolific flowering, Dryad Gold Ribbon is a mid-height variety with a relatively long narrow ovary and outer segments which are strongly concave which gives the flowers an elegant pointed appearance. It blooms mid-season, later than Gold Sovereign, Medal and Bullion and so extends the season of our Dryad Golds.
The inner mark is a wide inverted heart just over half the length of the inner segment, which means it has the largest mark of any of the Dryad yellows. It increases well.
The last photo shows it in flower last year in the garden at the beginning of February.
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And a real cutie (I love very small things) Galanthus koenenianus.
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Meanwhile, back here Galanthus Dryad Gold Ribbon is about to make an entrance. Selected very early in our assessment programme for its very prolific flowering, Dryad Gold Ribbon is a mid-height variety with a relatively long narrow ovary and outer segments which are strongly concave which gives the flowers an elegant pointed appearance. It blooms mid-season, later than Gold Sovereign, Medal and Bullion and so extends the season of our Dryad Golds.
The inner mark is a wide inverted heart just over half the length of the inner segment, which means it has the largest mark of any of the Dryad yellows. It increases well.
The last photo shows it in flower last year in the garden at the beginning of February.
That is great news about Dryad Gold Ribbon Anne, it is a beautiful snowdrop and a great addition to the Dryad range!
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Hi Anne,
I’m intrigued at you referring to ‘Gold Ribbon’ as a mid height variety.. I had thought it was the tallest Dryad?
Tim DH
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Today, a young 'Wasp' attracted by the mild temperatures, started to come out of its chrysalis.... :-*
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Meanwhile, back here Galanthus Dryad Gold Ribbon is about to make an entrance. Selected very early in our assessment programme for its very prolific flowering, Dryad Gold Ribbon is a mid-height variety with a relatively long narrow ovary and outer segments which are strongly concave which gives the flowers an elegant pointed appearance. It blooms mid-season, later than Gold Sovereign, Medal and Bullion and so extends the season of our Dryad Golds.
The inner mark is a wide inverted heart just over half the length of the inner segment, which means it has the largest mark of any of the Dryad yellows. It increases well.
The last photo shows it in flower last year in the garden at the beginning of February.
A reminder of the IRG e-magazine with the Dryad Gold s article :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jun251435252604IRG_66.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2015Jun251435252604IRG_66.pdf)
And the original Dryad Gold thread etc:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13222.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13222.0)
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Galanthus graecus with twin ovary, five petals and double interior. It is quite stable as this is its second year. Not easy to photograph. Also producing a second spathe.
Maggi can you please turn the pictures to the correct orientation. -done, M !
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Galanthus graecus with twin ovary, five petals and double interior. It is quite stable as this is its second year. Not easy to photograph. Also producing a second spathe.
Maggi can you please turn the pictures to the correct orientation. -done, M !
Hallo Tony, in my snowdrop garden I found a similar G. elwesii Seedling with twin ovary. This snowdrop started to flower in the open ground here in begin of january. The other flowers of the cluster are normally. Greetings Harald
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Maggi thank you for sorting the pictures.
Harald, yes almost identical. I found mine three years ago. it is now dividing and so it will be interesting to see if it keeps this form.
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I bought some galanthus bulbs, all together, several years ago as Galanthus elwesii. But one of the the flower has elongated flowers (front flower, pic K001) and has different pattern from the regular Galanthus elwesii flowers.
pic K009: pattern of the elongated flowers
pic K010Q pattern of the regular Galanthus elwesii flowers
Leaves appear the same in both.
Could this be a different species or is it a normal variation in elwesii.
George Papapolymerou
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Papapoly, there are two varieties/forms of Galanthus elwesii. Var. monostictus that has a single mark towards the tip of the inner petal and extending no further than half way towards the base. Var. elwesii has an apical (towards the tip) and a basal (towards the base) mark but these are often joined together to form one large mark (as in your first example). AFAIK wild populations are either one form or the other but bulbs from different populations get mixed together when sold in bulk. So the different marking on the inner petals are normal for elwesii.
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Hi Anne,
I’m intrigued at you referring to ‘Gold Ribbon’ as a mid height variety.. I had thought it was the tallest Dryad?
Tim DH
Hi Tim, It's about the same height as Medal and Sovereign, but there are other clones still being assessed that are taller... ;)
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The first Dryad Gold Ribbon ( showing it's prolific flowering potential) will be listed on ebay tonight, along with some other choice varieties that are not easy to come by -
Dryad Gold Ribbon
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Ronald Mackenzie
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Rannveig Wallis' lovely Corrin
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Dryad Gold Bullion
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Meanwhile, some other varieties that are new to me have flowered for the first time:
Maulsden (anyone any info about this variety?)
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One Drop or two (only one :( )
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Rosa Baron
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The Eyes have it
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I am very fond of 'Corrin' - grows very well here, thank goodness!
I was very pleased, Anne, to see that you raised £286 for the charity with the first of your sales of G. 'Eilys Elisabeth Hartley' - I didn't bid but followed your link to make a donation. Well done for your effort.
Good luck with your ebay sales via www.ebay.co.uk/usr/dryadzny (http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/dryadzny) - there will be plenty waiting for more Dryad Gold sales, I'm sure!
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Meanwhile, some other varieties that are new to me have flowered for the first time:
Maulsden (anyone any info about this variety?)
Maulsden is named for a Scottish snowdrop garden - see http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9s9qcqsebqvqkdcbtjmdpu70a5&topic=14153.msg362132#msg362132 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9s9qcqsebqvqkdcbtjmdpu70a5&topic=14153.msg362132#msg362132) - which I thinks is spelled differently - Maulesden
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Thanks, Maggi. I wonder if I have the spelling wrong?
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Fine house!
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Thanks, Maggi. I wonder if I have the spelling wrong?
I suspect it not you, Anne - that is the spelling used in the adverts for the SRGC Snowdrop day last year.
Fine house!
Not even sure if it's still there!
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Not even sure if it's still there!
The first photograph on this web site https://canmore.org.uk/site/196222/maulesden-house?display=image is captioned View of Maulesden House from NW prior to demolition.
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What a shame - looks like a substantial building. Just the old woods left then.
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What a shame - looks like a substantial building. Just the old woods left then.
Maggs,
"Demolished June 1963
Owner: Rt Hon Earl of Dalhousie.
Architect: David Bryce 1853"
Gives a clue where the drop may have come from! ;) ;)
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Now I look closely at the photo, it does look a bit draughty! I do know you Scots are hardy types, but even so.... ::)
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Maggs,
"Demolished June 1963
Owner: Rt Hon Earl of Dalhousie.
Architect: David Bryce 1853"
Gives a clue where the drop may have come from! ;) ;)
The Dalhousie estate was - and still is - huge!!
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The Dalhousie estate was - and still is - huge!!
The Maule family is related to the Dalhousie's i.e.
"MAULES IN THE RAMSAY FAMILY OF THE EARLS OF DALHOUSIE
When William, Earl of Panmure of Forth and Viscount Maule of Whitechurch died in 1782, his brothers had pre-deceased him. None of his brothers had any children so the titles became extinct. In his will he left the Panmure estates in liferent to George, the second son of his sister Jean, with remainder to George's second son, William.
Jean had married George Ramsay, the 6th. Earl of Dalhousie but when the Panmure estates were inherited by William Ramsay and he was given the title Baron Panmure of Brechin and Navar, he assumed the arms and the name of Maule in accordance with the terms of his great-uncle's will. It is in this way that the Maule name came to be used in the family of the Earls of Dalhousie.
As the two sons of the Hon. William Maule of Ferne and Maulesden both died at a very young age this was the end of the use of the Maule surname in the Ramsay family. Many descendants, however, have continued to be given Maule as a middle name."
I am guessing another of the family homes.
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I record Maulsden and Dalhousie as snowdrops originating from Ian Christie.
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Anne Wright's latest listing, including the delicious new Dryad Gold Ribbon , Gold Bullion, Ronald Mackenzie, Rosemary Burnham and Corrin, has just gone live.
Dryad Gold Ribbon is gorgeous, good hunting!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dryadzny/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/dryadzny/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=)
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The Maule family is related to the Dalhousie's i.e.
"MAULES IN THE RAMSAY FAMILY OF THE EARLS OF DALHOUSIE
When William, Earl of Panmure of Forth and Viscount Maule of Whitechurch died in 1782, his brothers had pre-deceased him. None of his brothers had any children so the titles became extinct. In his will he left the Panmure estates in liferent to George, the second son of his sister Jean, with remainder to George's second son, William.
Jean had married George Ramsay, the 6th. Earl of Dalhousie but when the Panmure estates were inherited by William Ramsay and he was given the title Baron Panmure of Brechin and Navar, he assumed the arms and the name of Maule in accordance with the terms of his great-uncle's will. It is in this way that the Maule name came to be used in the family of the Earls of Dalhousie.
As the two sons of the Hon. William Maule of Ferne and Maulesden both died at a very young age this was the end of the use of the Maule surname in the Ramsay family. Many descendants, however, have continued to be given Maule as a middle name."
I am guessing another of the family homes.
This must be the origin of he variety Ramsay as well then?
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Anne, yes I should think so.
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yes Anne, that's right - there are 'drops named for other members of the "Family From the Castle", too.
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Repeating Blonde Ingrid from FB -
"A chance to get Elizabeth Harrison from the originator, some lovely Pocs, including a new one and the Castle Series.
Our own Ian Christie is active on Ebay with some lovely drops!"
Includes the beautifull 'Annielle'.....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sgtmajor47/m.html?item=292003854850&hash=item43fcc93a02%3Ag%3AONYAAOSw2xRYf8DO&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sgtmajor47/m.html?item=292003854850&hash=item43fcc93a02%3Ag%3AONYAAOSw2xRYf8DO&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562)
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Among the mixtures of Galanthus elwesii I bought in recent years were a few snowdrops with supervolute vernation and green leaves. Galanthus woronowii?
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Galanthus woronowii?
I don't think so; woronowii would not have that basal mark on the inner petals. There are rare examples of green-leaved forms amongst many snowdrop species that normally have glaucous leaves. I once visited a garden that had a small number of green-leaved elwesii snowdrops scattered amongst the normal type. That's probably what you have there.
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An interestingly-marked example of Galanthus elwesii that has arisen in my garden.
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Such shaded marks are really fascinating, Alan! And, furthermore, the long outers are beautifully shaped!
Thank You for giving Your opinion concerning the "Green elwesii". There were definitely 2 or more G. woronowii among the 100 G. elwesii I bought 2 years ago. But what puzzles me besides the basal mark are the stiffly upright, narrow leaves, so unlike G. woronowii. Otherwise the flowers show the typical form and size of this species.
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Mariette, I agree that the form of the leaves, insofar as I can see them, does not look right for woronowii. The bulbs you bought were most likely collected from wild populations so you could, potentially, get anything mixed-in. It could be a hybrid or even be a new species of snowdrop hitherto unknown - but I think a green-leaved elwesii is most likely. Whatever you have, it is quite rare
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Among the mixtures of Galanthus elwesii I bought in recent years were a few snowdrops with supervolute vernation and green leaves. Galanthus woronowii?
I'd suggest G. fosteri Mariette.
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A brief flash of sunshine on morning patrol but fortunately the yellows took up the slack.
First up, Anne Wright's new one Dryad Gold Ribbon. Another very beautiful snowdrop in the Dryad Gold series. The inner mark is the largest and most prominent of the series and the outers more pointed. It is also distinctly taller than others so far released. When the sunlight strikes this variety, it seems to glow. In common with all of Anne's bulbs, there is already evidence of increase during it's first season.
Next, Sarah Dumont, another lovely yellow. Quite slow to bulk for me but making progress.
Finally, Lowick, which is increasing well.
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Some white weeds in my garden today...
Galanthus nivalis 'Funny Justine'
Galanthus nivalis 'Green Epaulet'
Galanthus nivalis 'Iseghem'
Galanthus nivalis, an unnamed sharlockii selection from Ruben Billiet
and Galanthus transcaucasicus
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Galanthus 'Trumps'
Galanthus 'Wasp'
and Galanthus 'Chequers + Galanthus 'Ginn's Imperati.
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I'd suggest G. fosteri Mariette.
Thank You, Ashley, the narrow leaves made me think of this, too, though it looks not as typical as the one growing in my garden. As Alan pointed out, G.e. with green leaves do exist, and it may be more likely to get such one with a mixture than the rarer G. fosteri. If the bulb clumps, I´ll give one to a more knowledgeable person than I am to judge.
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Very interesting information about the Maules from Brechin i have seen the family tree at Dalhousie castle must try and get a copy we have named one of the recent G. plicatus Clan Maule (thanks to Ingrid will post a picture this has very large shiny green leaves pristine white flowers. cheers Ian the Christie kind
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My! Those are big leaves!
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I'd suggest G. fosteri Mariette.
That's a good suggestion; I didn't even think of fosteri. But fosteri has a reputation for not surviving very long in cultivation, particularity in the open garden. So to get fosteri instead of elwesii may be a mixed blessing.
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Hello,
Apologies as a newbie for butting in, and not sure where to post this, but a friend suggested I try to find out on SRGC a name for this snowdrop. I was given it by another local gardener who in turn got it from a friend, via he thinks, Woodpecker garden in Warwickshire a few years ago. ( As is the tortuous route with snowdrops). He gave me 2 bulbs and it's flowered for me this year. I'd say it's one of my current favourites - early (before Christmas), large, but in proportion to foliage, broad leaves, but with slightly turned margins, 2 flower scapes per bulb. And it seems vigorous, at least here. Very bold inverted heart shape and distinct green lines on the outer tips, visible inside the tips Any name ideas would be most welcome. Otherwise 'Keith's Corker' seems appropriate...Many thanks, Julian .
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This is a Galanthus plicatus form very nice green tipped petals do not have a name cheers.
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Andrew and Lally Cox had some outstanding snowdrops in their garden at Woodpeckers, I can't place it offhand but it is certainly a desirable one...will check to see if I can match it.
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About 10 years ago I spotted an example of Galanthus plicatus with green marks on the outer petals. I looked in the 'Snowdrops' monograph for plicatus cultivars showing this feature and my recollection is that I could not find any. But now they seem to be cropping up in droves, not least 'Castle Green Dragon' which is extremely green. Given that I wasn't aware of any of Ian Christie's finds 10 years ago, was I otherwise correct? Have all the green-marked plicatus snowdrops appeared (or appeared on the market) in the last 10 years?
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The calm after the storm on the afternoon patrol, and the charge of the green tips.
First Goatee Green Tip from Andy Byfield. This has proved not only a striking addition to his range but a great garden plant. Wonderful dark green inner mark and a pleasing shape. The trick with Andy is to get him to make them more available!
Next Tippy Green which is a new one for me and is clumping well. Small in stature but a big hitter in the colour department.
Modern Art which is one of my favourite snowdrops, lovely colour and shape and clumps extremely well.
John Tomlinson. One I got from Judy's Snowdrops, strikingly tall drop with a lovely shape.
Greenfinch doing well as always.
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I do like that very deep green inner mark on 'Goatee Green Tip' - but I think I'm developing a bit of a dislike of the pinching at the tip which occurs with many outer green markings. I think I do prefer a fuller shape to the outers.
Good grief - I'm getting fussy about snowdrops ! Saints preserve me!
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Good grief - I'm getting fussy about snowdrops ! Saints preserve me!
It had to happen! ;D ;D ;D
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... it is certainly a desirable one...will check to see if I can match it.
Indeed - I like these soft and dainty marks much better than the strong ones. It would be great to learn under which name it´s available.
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First Goatee Green Tip from Andy Byfield. This has proved not only a striking addition to his range but a great garden plant. Wonderful dark green inner mark and a pleasing shape. The trick with Andy is to get him to make them more available!
Amen to that I doubt whether there is more than a handful who have seen them let alone grow them!
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Hello,
Apologies as a newbie for butting in,
Not at all that's what we like!
I'd say it's one of my current favourites - early (before Christmas), large, but in proportion to foliage, broad leaves, but with slightly turned margins, 2 flower scapes per bulb. And it seems vigorous, at least here. Very bold inverted heart shape and distinct green lines on the outer tips, visible inside the tips Any name ideas would be most welcome
I am stumped, have checked my database and it's not one I grow. Sorry I can't help as nothing I have matches. The flowering before Christmas is great and it has lovely marks so I am sure it must be known - perhaps Steve Owen will know?
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The flowering before Christmas is great and it has lovely marks so I am sure it must be known - perhaps Steve Owen will know?
Perhaps he might. But I am almost certain it has not made my list of snwodrops that flower before Christmas here: http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12486.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12486.0)
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Hello everyone,
Thanks for the efforts, and thoughts on the the mystery snowdrop. A couple of supplementary bits of info. After checking the plant today, on each bulb's foliage, one leaf is flat elwesii type, the other has a plicate margin on both edges. So I'm guessing it's at least an elwessii/plicatus hybrid? I'll also attach an image which Keith Brown, whose garden was the source of my bulbs, has very kindly sent me of the mother clump, looking splendid.
Many thanks again, Julian
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This must be the origin of he variety Ramsay as well then?
That is correct Anne, James Broun-Ramsay, was the 1st Marquess of Dalhousie.
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A few plants I have flowering at the moment.
1 Diggory
2 I first found this last year a 4x4 nivalis and it's done the same thing year
3Another find of mine
4 South Hayes
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Not at all that's what we like!
I am stumped, have checked my database and it's not one I grow. Sorry I can't help as nothing I have matches. The flowering before Christmas is great and it has lovely marks so I am sure it must be known - perhaps Steve Owen will know?
The pic doesn't ring any bells with me. It looks a little like my early greentip St Crispin's Day, but that flowers in the last week of October, which is a good deal earlier than the unknown snowdrop - and St CD was a seedling originating here and is in limited circulation.
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Morning patrol in bright sunshine with a definite Andy Byfield influence.
First Lemongrass, a Tier 1 yellow in my view. The contrast on the inners between the apical and basal mark is stunning. It also seems to be increasing steadily which is encouraging.
Auntie Nellie Danglers is still flowering well and the size of the flower is incredible. I still prefer the name Fred Bassett by the way Andy!
Next my second clump of Andre's Fault is in action. This is not quite Morgana but it is close. There were a couple of questions about the deep green inner, Yes it is that dark and I have included Green Tear, also flowering today to highlight the deepness of Andrea's Fault.
The good news is that Morgana is but a few days away.
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Galanthus transcaucasicus seed from Pilous collected Nagorny Karabach
Hello Tony ,
now is finally my Gal. transcaucasicus ex Nagorny Karabach ( also grown from Pilous seeds ) open
I do really not believe those name :)
flower wrong
leaves wrong
But what it is ...no idea
Greetings
Hans
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This one came as G. alpinus to me - a very chunky and attractive snowdrop.
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Galanthus gracilis, with in the background Helleborus niger.
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Morning patrol in bright sunshine with a definite Andy Byfield influence.
First Lemongrass, a Tier 1 yellow in my view. The contrast on the inners between the apical and basal mark is stunning. It also seems to be increasing steadily which is encouraging.
Auntie Nellie Danglers is still flowering well and the size of the flower is incredible. I still prefer the name Fred Bassett by the way Andy!
Next my second clump of Andre's Fault is in action. This is not quite Morgana but it is close. There were a couple of questions about the deep green inner, Yes it is that dark and I have included Green Tear, also flowering today to highlight the deepness of Andrea's Fault.
The good news is that Morgana is but a few days away.
Lemongrass is a beauty - is it, along with Ronald Mackenzie, one of the only two yellows with a double inner mark?
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Brief sunshine for this morning's patrol.
First up Anne Wright's Dryad Gold Ribbon and Dryad Gold Nugget (Nugget has the chartreuse inner). Both looking very distinctive and beautiful in the sunlight. Both are increasing well which is a common feature in Anne's snowdrops. Both currently on Ebay for those on the trail
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Next Belvedere Gold, a new one for me, originally selected by Gisela Schmiemann, but also increasing well. Very nice shape to the flowers and a great addition to the yellows.
Then Sandersii GP, one of the delicate yellows.
Finally June Boardman, very slow in bulking, but has an interesting and pretty shape.
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Galanthus Dryad Venus
After 9 years development work, and trialling, we are excited to introduce the second variety to be released from our inverse poculiform snowdrop breeding programme. For a formal description, please see the other thread, but we couldn't resist having a bit of fun here :D
This seedling is a favourite with all who have seen it for its curvaceous, shapely flowers with a flirty frill around the outer segments on mature flowers. The mark on the outer segments is shaped like an inverted heart. The inner segments are not willingly revealed, but if you have a peek you will see that the inner mark is a deeper green 'X' or kiss. With such a ravishing, sensuous shape and markings the only fitting name was Venus, as the Goddess of Love and Beauty.
It is a mid-height snowdrop growing to about 20cm high under glass, probably shorter in the open. At flowering time the plicate leaves are short and display the flowers well. It has a upright habit, and the spathe is erect. To add to all this, not only is it scented, but it probably carries yellow genes having Wendy's Gold and Corrin as parents, so will be useful in breeding programmes for yellow poculiforms.
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Also photographed today:
Dryad Gold Bullion
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Spindlestone Surprise
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Rosemary Burnham
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Comparison of Dryad Gold Bullion and Spindlestone Surprise
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Galanthus Dryad Venus
After 9 years development work, and trialling, we are excited to introduce the second variety to be released from our inverse poculiform snowdrop breeding programme. For a formal description, please see the other thread, but we couldn't resist having a bit of fun here :D
This seedling is a favourite with all who have seen it for its curvaceous, shapely flowers with a flirty frill around the outer segments on mature flowers. The mark on the outer segments is shaped like an inverted heart. The inner segments are not willingly revealed, but if you have a peek you will see that the inner mark is a deeper green 'X' or kiss. With such a ravishing, sensuous shape and markings the only fitting name was Venus, as the Goddess of Love and Beauty.
What a breathtaking snowdrop Anne! Quote from my AT: "In addition to getting it, can I date it as well" ::) ::) ::)
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'Dryad Venus' is quite the show girl. Every bit as coquettish as the Botticelli version!
Got the snuffles here, so Fred Admin's failure to add a scent button to the forum is temporarily forgiven!
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Can’t compete with all these exotic snowdrops right now but very pleased with G.’Ronald Mackenzie’ purchased last year. Thanks in part to advice on this forum it has not only stayed alive but has three scapes and looks amazing in the sunshine.
edit by maggi - waiting for resized photo to be posted !
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Hmm...photo won’t open....
0 kB so nothing there, David.
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It’s too large, apparently. Will rethink!
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I think the 'drops in our Aberdeen garden have been sensible in not making too much growth too early, as seems to have been the case in some areas- but they are getting going now - showing all over the garden - how are others finding the season?
@Steve Owen, for instance - how are things with your collection? Early, late, or just about spot on?
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Maggi -
Generally the snowdrops seem to be about a fortnight ahead of usual, so our Open Days have come forward to next weekend (Feb.3 and 4, 10 am - 3.30 pm). I visited a snowdrop friend in Kenilworth yesterday and his snowdrops are probably a fortnight behind mine.
Growth-wise the picture is the usual mixture of triumph and disappointment; some varieties have bulked up well whilst a minority have stood still or even regressed. For example my lattice pot of nine flowering Savill Gold have not appeared at all. To counter that, my Kryptonite and Belle Etoile have both flowered for the first time and produced offsets.
Odd patches of ill-health in the garden, each affecting several varieties, are apparent and being treated.
I am always full of admiration for those SR contributors whose swathes of snowdrops bulk up effortlessly with never a sign of disease; long may they prosper. But I suspect my experience may be shared by many snowdrop enthusiasts.
During last summer I raised every snowdrop lattice pot on my alpine bed (about 300 pots), tipped them out and dealt with every little bit of unhealth I could spot, and re-potted, re-spaced and re-interred; the whole job took nearly three months of spare time. The results are the entire alpine bed population of snowdrops is glowing with health. In the process I replanted not re-using the smallest square lattice pot but the bigger octagonal one, which is also deeper; I do think the bulbs have appreciated this extra depth of potting medium.
Yesterday afternoon the sun appeared for a couple of hours. The snowdrops opened, as did the early crocus, iris and cyclamen, and the alpine bed blazed. It made all that work worth-while. So for me at least, snowdrop success is hard-won and keeping on top of growing 1,600 varieties is limiting the time I can spend attending (and spending at) snowdrop do-s!
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You'd be less busy in full time employment, Steve!
I saw John Aipassa posting on FB about rot in some drops from his garden.
For the sake of beginners I reckon it's always worth noting that growing any plants, in pots or in the ground is liable to be tricky at times and to require vigilance and effort on our parts. :-X
When things do go /grow well, though, the pleasure is tremendous so that's why we do it!
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Today's morning patrol saw the turn of the 'blobs' as I christened them.
First is Philippe Andre Meyer AKA 'The Weed'. Last year I lifted this as it was breaking out of a large pot in the ground. I sent some clumps to friends and kept two small clumps and re-potted them separately. This season BOTH are back to where i started. I will again have to re-pot in the dormant period.
Next Green of Hearts. This is a lovely drop and clumps very vigorously.
Next Phil Cornish, slower than the other blobs but striking nevertheless.
Next Lucy, very quick to increase.
Finally for now for the blobs, Trymlet another vigorous clump former.
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Very lovely all of them. :) How would you compare 'South Hayes' to them? Not so vigorous?
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Philippe André Meyer is the most prolific of them all, I think. South Hayes is a lot slower
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I am rather taken with G. 'Kenkot Ivy' - with that pouting Bette Davis mouth
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Philippe André Meyer is the most prolific of them all, I think. South Hayes is a lot slower
Thanks Anne. :) And I just planted SH last summer thinking that it is the one I want of that type! ::)
Very nice 'Kenkot Ivy', it looks different.
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I think 'South Hayes' probably just needs a little more cosseting. Maybe because this cultivar has virus...
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Virus! :o If I had known it, I wouldn't have bought it. However your 'South Hayes' does look very nice.
I found this thread from 2012
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8612.15 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8612.15)
and I see now that I have also other cultivars which have been tested to have virus: 'S.Arnott', 'Diggory', 'Melanie Broughton' and 'Gerald Parker', but the first three ones are all doing well here and also GP is ok, but not multiplied. :-\
So I have virus already here. :(
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I am no expert, Leena, but don't worry about it too much. No need to cull those lovely plants of yours. The virus doesn't affect them much and who knows how many other cultivars have virus. It hasn't been tested.
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Today's morning patrol saw the turn of the 'blobs' as I christened them.
First is Philippe Andre Meyer AKA 'The Weed'. Last year I lifted this as it was breaking out of a large pot in the ground. I sent some clumps to friends and kept two small clumps and re-potted them separately. This season BOTH are back to where i started. I will again have to re-pot in the dormant period.
Next Green of Hearts. This is a lovely drop and clumps very vigorously.
Next Phil Cornish, slower than the other blobs but striking nevertheless.
Next Lucy, very quick to increase.
Finally for now for the blobs, Trymlet another vigorous clump former.
A lovely set of 'ipocs' Ingrid!
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An excellent feature article on our own Paul Barney (Edulis) in the February edition of Gardens Illustrated!
Well worth a read.
To accompany it G. Faint Heart, one of Paul's flowering today. Delighted with progress as it has clumped superbly and proved to be a great garden plant.
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That's a nice looking clump :D
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An excellent feature article on our own Paul Barney (Edulis) in the February edition of Gardens Illustrated!
Well worth a read.
To accompany it G. Faint Heart, one of Paul's flowering today. Delighted with progress as it has clumped superbly and proved to be a great garden plant.
Beautiful light in that photo, Ingrid.
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It is a most satisfying time of year, is it not? Who says they all look the same? (Even out of focus).
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It is a most satisfying time of year, is it not? Who says they all look the same? (Even out of focus).
Right you are! Other people sit inside and moan about the weather - we get out every day (moan about the weather) and enjoy those lovely little white flowers. Here is a part of my own Galanthus-parade: 'Godfrey Owen', 'E.A. Bowles' (in bud), 'Sprite', 'Ailwyn' and - just noticable - 'South Hayes'
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Its a great incentive to get out in the open air and exercise not only your body, but your powers of observation and appreciation.
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Galanthus 'Nothing Special' is quite special in my book: Good sturdy flowers, increases well.
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Galanthus plicatus 'Gerard Parker'
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There really isn't anything whiter than a snowdrop flower, is there?
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Dryad Gold Medal. One bulb purchased last summer.
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This is my first post in this forum, so please be patient with me :) Took some pictures today in my garden, below is a selection of 1) Grumpy, 2) Green Tear, 3) Madelaine, and 4) South Hayes. Slugs are a big problem in my garden this year due to the unusually mild and wet weather. Best solution for me is to venture out with a headlamp and scissors every night...
( Hello ! edit by maggi to rotate two photos- had to change the order for that!)
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Wow - are you planting all these in the lawn? That is courageous... It may work with some but not with all ;)
Slugs: I use slugpellets as soon as it gets warmer than 5° C - many of the little horrors are so small I wouldn't find them with a headlamp...
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I love the markings on this new pterugiform Snowdrop 'Fieldgate Sophie' - the lower mark forming a perfect inverted heart.
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Hello cfaitz! Welcome to the forum!!
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Wow - are you planting all these in the lawn? That is courageous... It may work with some but not with all ;)
Slugs: I use slugpellets as soon as it gets warmer than 5° C - many of the little horrors are so small I wouldn't find them with a headlamp...
Call me courageous or foolish, it works rather well for me since many years :). Obviously, I have the "precious ones" in a well-watched area, i.e. along my fagus sylvatica hedge, where a snowdrop's worst enemy, the lawnmower, doesn't hit them too early...
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This snowdrop came to me as G. gracilis ex Jimmy Platt. It´s certainly gracile, but lacks the usual basal marks. Does anybody know more about it?
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Found this unnamed nivalis today. Thought the mark was rather nice 😊
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Call me courageous or foolish, it works rather well for me since many years :). Obviously, I have the "precious ones" in a well-watched area, i.e. along my fagus sylvatica hedge, where a snowdrop's worst enemy, the lawnmower, doesn't hit them too early...
:-D Excellent! I am glad it works because I have started putting the odd drop in the lawn when I split a clump. But I was very dubious whether it would work.
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This snowdrop came to me as G. gracilis ex Jimmy Platt. It´s certainly gracile, but lacks the usual basal marks. Does anybody know more about it?
I don't know it. Could it be a gracilis x nivalis hybrid? There is a Euphorbia characias subsp. wulfenii 'Jimmy Platt'; seemingly he was a friend of Primrose Warberg.
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... a snowdrop's worst enemy, the lawnmower...
In my garden the snowdrop's worst enemy is the larvae of the swift moth, which live underground. I think these insects may prefer life under the lawn, where they are less accessible to predators. Snowdrops don't do well in grass for me, unless it is very sparse as it might be under a tree.
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:-D Excellent! I am glad it works because I have started putting the odd drop in the lawn when I split a clump. But I was very dubious whether it would work.
In my experience, the open lawn is indeed difficult; rather, I have my snowdrops in close proximity to (i.e., under) my fagus hedge, where I only start to keep the grass short per May or so, if at all necessary. This way, my snowdrops have light in the winter and shade in the summer. Rather than cutting the hedge in February, I do this in late December or early January, in order not to damage the emerging snowdrops.
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I don't know it. Could it be a gracilis x nivalis hybrid? There is a Euphorbia characias subsp. wulfenii 'Jimmy Platt'; seemingly he was a friend of Primrose Warberg.
Thank You, Alan, I´m not sure whether there is any gracilis in it at all. The apices of the inners show no sign of being reflexed, a feature which is found even in the hybrids of Galanthus gracilis quite regularly.
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..., I´m not sure whether there is any gracilis in it at all. .....
To be honest I thought that too, but I did not wish to appear rude. I wonder if what you have was somehow accidentally switched for a different snowdrop somewhere along its route to your garden? it's quite an easy mistake to make, particularly if the bulb was dormant at the time. Jimmy Platt does have a snowdrop named after him but it's an elwesii, judging by the leaves https://www.avonbulbs.co.uk/spring-planted-bulbs-and-snowdrops/galanthus-snowdrops/galanthus-jimmy-platt (https://www.avonbulbs.co.uk/spring-planted-bulbs-and-snowdrops/galanthus-snowdrops/galanthus-jimmy-platt) . But there is a picture here http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u7jhvo4h4cd8gv48f65nr947p4&topic=922.msg39559#msg39559 (http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u7jhvo4h4cd8gv48f65nr947p4&topic=922.msg39559#msg39559) from Lina Hesseling that shows a different "Jimmy Platt" that is obviously a gracilis and nothing like yours. Lina is a forum member http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1331 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1331) but has not be sighted here since 2014.
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Lina was "here" yesterday! ;D
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Lina was "here" yesterday! ;D
Oh yes, that's good. Perhaps she will be motivated to comment? Lina, if you read this, can you tell us something about your Galanthus gracilis "Jimmy Platt" or perhaps it's "ex Jimmy Platt" (as Avon bulbs seem to have used-up the name).
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Well, I suspected that names got mixed up and hoped that someone might be able to show the true Galanthus gracilis ex Jimmy Platt.
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When I see a name like that .... plant ex Jane Doe ...... my first thought is that it refers to a plant originally received by someone from the person of that name, before I think it might be a seedling from a plant bearing the name 'Jane Doe' .
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Yes, that’s what I think too e.g. Galanthus green-leaved hybrid ex Richard Nutt
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Well, I suspected that names got mixed up and hoped that someone might be able to show the true Galanthus gracilis ex Jimmy Platt.
Sorry, Mariette, I carelessly missed-out the link to what might well be the true Galanthus gracilis ex Jimmy Platt in my earlier post. Lets try again:
http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u7jhvo4h4cd8gv48f65nr947p4&topic=922.msg39559#msg39559 (http://www.vrvforum.be/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=u7jhvo4h4cd8gv48f65nr947p4&topic=922.msg39559#msg39559)
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Thank You ever so much, Alan! This really looks like a Galanthus gracilis that Jimmy Platt may have distributed. Perhaps Lina may help with a pic showing the inners and tell the story behind.
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This is my first post in this forum, so please be patient with me :) Took some pictures today in my garden, below is a selection of 1) Grumpy, 2) Green Tear, 3) Madelaine, and 4) South Hayes. Slugs are a big problem in my garden this year due to the unusually mild and wet weather. Best solution for me is to venture out with a headlamp and scissors every night...
( Hello ! edit by maggi to rotate two photos- had to change the order for that!)
Hello Cfaitz, I see, You are new in SRGC as I too and Your fotos show a fine first sortiment of snowdropsorts! I started two years ago to collect namesorts of snowdrops and so also the "TOP 25 of best British Snowdrops". For planting near shrups or trees I use prepared beds with plastic gaze protection against muizes and set sandstones at the border to the lawn, see foto. So the visitors (and the grasmower too) do not damage the snowdrops and the flowers are easier to visit. The humous sandy soil I mix with good compost and "Leonardit"( an organic material to get better soils) and use some organic manure! The results are good! In my collection I have now 120 sorts within 8 of autumnflowering G. r-o. This year I opened this "Schneeglöckchengarten" first time!