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Title: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Ola on April 01, 2008, 03:29:57 PM
The Epimediums are spectacular now. They have very nice new foliage and at the same time somewhat bizarre but still beautiful flowers. Does anybody have experience of growing them from seed? Are they slow? I have tried to cross-pollinate my favourite species and seeds seem to be forming. Now some pictures. I'm uncertain about the species names so any help would be welcome.

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The Asarums are also some favourites right now. This is the hairy Asarum pulchellum.

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And this is Asarum sieboldii.

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Also in flower now is Arisaema sikokianum with its strange club. (Many thanks Hans!)

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Last I'd like to show you the result of an experiment I made a few years ago. I irradiated some Galanthus seeds with UV-light, hoping to get some seedlings with mottled leaves. Well, I did not get any variegation. In stead I got some very unexpected flowers. I call it 'Blue Gal'.

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Ola



Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 01, 2008, 03:52:27 PM
Last I'd like to show you the result of an experiment I made a few years ago. I irradiated some Galanthus seeds with UV-light, hoping to get some seedlings with mottled leaves. Well, I did not get any variegation. In stead I got some very unexpected flowers. I call it 'Blue Gal'.



Ola
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Is that you, Maggi? Nothing better to do on a nice sunny April Fool's Day like this?   ;D




Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 01, 2008, 04:04:46 PM
Hi Ola,
Nice to meet you here.
A blue Galanthus - Nice  ' aprilskämt ' or ' April Fools' joke ' or  ' poisson d'avril '  or ' broma del día de los inocentes ' or ' Aprilscherz '  ;D ;D ;D

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2008, 04:31:22 PM

Ola, some great plants, there, good to see that Spring is coming to Sweden......I find the epimediums difficult to name, also  :P :-[  we haven't tried them from seed. :-\

 The asarum are terrific... especially the hairy one.... very nice plant. 8)

Martin, really!  :o :o

It is a bright day here in N.E.  Scotland so I have been busy making photographs of some dwarf bulbs that I bought from Ebay. They are certainly dwarf, all are about 8cms to 10 cms tall but they are not quite what I expected...............
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 01, 2008, 04:40:19 PM
It is a bright day here in N.E.  Scotland so I have been busy making photographs of some dwarf bulbs that I bought from Ebay. They are certainly dwarf, all are about 8cms to 10 cms tall but they are not quite what I expected...............

Maggi,
Species and cultivar names please  ;D ;D ;D

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 01, 2008, 05:15:57 PM
Daphne blagayana, Callianthemum anemonoides (not so beautiful as usually), Frit. sten., Gagea ?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on April 01, 2008, 05:23:09 PM

Ola, some great plants, there, good to see that Spring is coming to Sweden......I find the epimediums difficult to name, also  :P :-[  we haven't tried them from seed. :-\

 The asarum are terrific... especially the hairy one.... very nice plant. 8)

Martin, really!  :o :o

It is a bright day here in N.E.  Scotland so I have been busy making photographs of some dwarf bulbs that I bought from Ebay. They are certainly dwarf, all are about 8cms to 10 cms tall but they are not quite what I expected...............


Almost like plastic ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2008, 05:29:03 PM
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Almost like plastic
Actually they have a pleasing, papery texture!!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 01, 2008, 05:38:54 PM
Maggi, as it was a galanthus April Fool, I thought it might have been you borrowing a forumist's name (or conspiring with Ola) to play a little trick on us poor white-deprived snowdrop fever sufferers.   :D   For some inexplicable reason it just seemed like something you'd do.  ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2008, 05:42:31 PM
Goodness... was Ola's Galanthus an April Fool?  :o :o And I was just about to email to suggest selling the Blue Gals as fast as possible on Ebay. :P ::)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2008, 06:00:25 PM
We have a real little charmer flowering today.... a Turkish Muscari sp. that we got from Arthur......I'd show you a photo of it, but the BD has embargoed it for his Bulb Log! So watch out for it there.... but THANKS, Arthur, it is just a little sweetie.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gmoen on April 01, 2008, 07:53:28 PM
Finally.........."my messenger of spring" has arrived in my garden.  The Colchicum szovitsii 'Tivi' is getting better from year to year, and gives me the good feeling every spring. Last year two flowers, this year six.......
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2008, 08:00:05 PM
It is a super colchicum, Geir, and growing well, too. I do like the clean white flowers. 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 01, 2008, 10:59:24 PM
That is a lovely white COlchicum, that is for sure.  Love the other serious pics as well.  Can't say I'm surprised they thought it was you with the blue Galanthus Maggi!!  ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 02, 2008, 08:00:41 PM
Some Asarum. Does anybody know the correct names?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2008, 08:03:48 PM
These asarum are great, Hans! What is the species of no. 2212, the good green one?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on April 02, 2008, 09:07:04 PM
Some Asarum. Does anybody know the correct names?

I'll have a go at the Asarum quiz

2205 ?
2209 splendens
2211 delavayi
2212 trigynum?
2215 forbesii
2219 campniforme

Hans could you show the leaves later on?  It may give some extra information.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 02, 2008, 09:11:20 PM
I agree with Diane apart from trygnium which I have never heard of or seen so cannot comment on. I think these are the names they came with to me from Chen yi who seems to be the source of most of the new ones. I think it should also be campaniforme with an 'a'
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2008, 09:21:04 PM
see this page in the old Forum for Asarum trigynum album...and some others!
http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/141/29960.html
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 02, 2008, 11:20:14 PM
What does epimedium seed look like please? Like that of ranzania or jeffersonia maybe?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 03, 2008, 09:18:59 AM
Ola
Where are you? Maggie wrote something about Sweden.
My Epimediums have not stirred yet - not a single little green thread.
I find them quite difficult to name and many out there are wrongly named.
I could lend you my spare copy of Stearns monograph if you really are in Sweden.
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 03, 2008, 09:31:58 AM
Ola
Where are you? Maggie wrote something about Sweden.
My Epimediums have not stirred yet - not a single little green thread.
I find them quite difficult to name and many out there are wrongly named.
I could lend you my spare copy of Stearns monograph if you really are in Sweden.
Göte

Fishy!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 03, 2008, 11:01:27 AM
Ola IS in Sweden and was last online earlier this morning, before 8am, so has so far not seen these questions to him..... Martin, you need to sit down and eat some good chocolate, your conspiracy theories are getting the better of you! :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 03, 2008, 11:26:09 AM
Ola IS in Sweden and was last online earlier this morning, before 8am, so has so far not seen these questions to him..... Martin, you need to sit down and eat some good chocolate, your conspiracy theories are getting the better of you! :o

Okay, Maggi, will do (we have some Green & Blacks dark choccy with espresso coffee left over from Easter  :D ) It's just that when one part of the post was obviously a hoax, it does tend to make one wonder about the rest of the post.  And, as Gote suggests, it seems a bit early for epimedium flowers in Sweden. But if you say so.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 03, 2008, 11:36:30 AM
Ola's first post mentioned "Southern Sweden" if that is any help Gote'?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Ola on April 03, 2008, 12:02:03 PM
Hi!

Oh yes, I'm really in Sweden and so are the Epimediums. However, the greenhouse effect is not as bad as it may seem... I have many Epimediums in the alpine house since I'm not sure all of them are hardy here. When the plants are big enough I make divisions and try them outside. Lesley, seeds are definitely forming and I'll post a picture of the pods and the seeds later on. Göte, some help with the identification would be welcome and thanks for the Ranzania seeds!
Here's a picture of another Epimedium and also a picture of the collection.

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This is how far spring has come in the garden. The plants are all a little weedy, but nice weeds I think.

Chionodoxa.

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Chrysoplenium.

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Thlaspi.

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Martin, are you sure you don't want some of my 'Blue Gal'?

Ola
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 03, 2008, 12:08:40 PM
Ola,

Was the blue effect added to the Galanthus on the computer, or did you actually paint it?  :o   I'm not sure I could cope with painting a Galanthus blue..... they're so uncommon here it would seem like heresy!!  ;D

By the way.... what is the last pic (entitled "Thlaspi") of?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 03, 2008, 12:12:50 PM
Thanks for the offer, Ola, but I think you'll find the galanthus flowers revert to white next year.  ;D

Paul, the colouring is concentrated in the veins of the flowers so I'd say a blue vegetable-based food dye watered into the pot.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 03, 2008, 12:16:41 PM
Martin,

I'd wondered about that myself.  It looks like the dye had been taken up, but I didn't realise that a vegetable dye would be taken up by the plant like that.  I know it can easily be done with cut flowers, but living plants?  Or were the flowers cut, dyed in a vase, then made to look like still growing?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 03, 2008, 12:49:00 PM
Martin,

I'd wondered about that myself.  It looks like the dye had been taken up, but I didn't realise that a vegetable dye would be taken up by the plant like that.  I know it can easily be done with cut flowers, but living plants?  Or were the flowers cut, dyed in a vase, then made to look like still growing?

After posting, I did think that actually it's more likely that the flowers were cut and stood in some bloue dye solution then made to look like they're still in the pot (probably the pot of non-dyed snowdrops placed next to the vase or jar, and the leaves artfully arranged around the cut flowers.

It could work watering dye into a pot, as the dye solution would be taken up by the roots and into the flowers. But I think the giveaway is that the flowers closest to the camera are completely dye-free, so probably still in a pot, with the dyed flowers cut and stood in dye.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 03, 2008, 12:58:25 PM
When I was at school we painted this way a lot of cut galanthus, white Narcissus and Dianthus with blue red, or black (!) ink. ::)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 03, 2008, 01:09:24 PM
Here is another carpet (which also smells very intensely ;)). Corydalis cava and solida.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 03, 2008, 01:38:01 PM
Here is another carpet (which also smells very intensely ;)). Corydalis cava and solida.

Wow! I'd like to walk around that bit of woodland, Kata. I really love corydalis, both solida forms and cava. I wonder how many people realise just how strongly and sweetly scented Cordydalis cava can be. The first cava I bought a few years ago from a Dutch grower turned out to be a very large-growing and very strongly scented selection of white, pink and purple flowered plants which were superb. Unfortunately I had to move them to another part of my garden due to building work, and it was too dry so they died. But I have some seedlings from them starting to flower now, and I buy a few more every year from Janis Ruksans in Latvia to select the best scented ones. If grown in pots, the scent under glass is beautiful.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 03, 2008, 03:30:19 PM
Hi all! What a beautiful flowers are blooming in your gardens!

Symplocarpus foetidus
(http://cs1252.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_cf2c9c90.jpg)
http://cs1252.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_1f2a668e.jpg

Galanthus
(http://cs1252.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_f771d908.jpg)
http://cs1252.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_a3b34a20.jpg

Merendera trigyna
(http://cs1354.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_d976986b.jpg)
http://cs1354.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_d5e22a9c.jpg

Galanthus
(http://cs1354.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_33eca9e2.jpg)
http://cs1354.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_49f904cf.jpg
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 03, 2008, 08:11:54 PM
Thank all for the magnificent pic!
Here are some shots of Anemone blanda in my meadow. Over all appear self seedlings.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 03, 2008, 10:40:44 PM
Franz do you ever get a cloudy day? How far do you live from the Czech border? The AGS Ulster Group may be in CZ next year

From seed sown back in August and potted on in October my Pelargonium collection is now growing very fast. I may pot them on again on Sunday if it's a nice day. One of them is the obviously named P. ranunculophyllum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 03, 2008, 11:28:23 PM
Franz,

Lovely display of Anemone blanda.  They're such beautiful flowers.  Great pics.

Kathrine et al,

I've never heard of Corydalis cava before.  I've heard of solida and hopefully should still have some small seedlings coming along, but what is the differences with cava?  Your woodland looks simply stunning, but I can only try to imagine the smell as I didn't realise that any Corydalis were scented.  :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: illingworth on April 04, 2008, 12:23:54 AM
I went to the recent NARGS meeting held near Hartford CT. Not much was in bloom for the garden visits but these two plants caught my eye. The first is Daphne jezoensis.  I was told it was 4 feet in width.

The second was this remarkable yellow flower cluster.  Without the flowers the plant wasn't impressive; a naked stem like a sumac with 3 short branches and with a flower cluster at the end of each. The cluster was about 2 1/2 inches wide and the plant perhaps 18 inches high in total.  Can anyone ID it for me?
-Rob
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 04, 2008, 01:22:54 AM
Rob,

Looks like some sort of Edgeworthia to me I think.  18 inches sounds a bit short though, unless a dwarf variety or young plant?  Others will likely know the area more clearly.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: illingworth on April 04, 2008, 02:45:07 AM
Thank you Paul. That was prompt indeed>
-Rob
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: olegKon on April 04, 2008, 06:26:18 AM
Olga, nice to meet you in the forum. Spring has really come to Moscow to let us enjoy the beauty not only as fantastic pics of the forumist. Here is the first flower of Eranthis cilicicus which has just exposed its yellow shine to the sun.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 04, 2008, 07:35:34 AM
Kathrine et al,

I've never heard of Corydalis cava before.  I've heard of solida and hopefully should still have some small seedlings coming along, but what is the differences with cava?  Your woodland looks simply stunning, but I can only try to imagine the smell as I didn't realise that any Corydalis were scented.  :o

Paul,
Corydalis cava (=bulbosa) has a cave in it's tuber (at least the older plants), has no scale below the lowest leaf, and it's bracts are untoothed. These are the main differences between the two species (cava and solida) as far as I know. And has a very intense, sweet scent. To be sincere, I didn't know that Coridalys solida is not fragrant. In this woodland they are mixed, and I had never smelled them separately. ::)

I never collected corydalis seed, but I think I could manage, if anybody needs. There are millions of plants, not far from my home. I don't know if they hibridize or not. ::)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 04, 2008, 07:45:58 AM
Kathrine,

Thanks for the clarification.  I've never flowered solida as yet, but hopefully one of these years if the seedlings still survive.  ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 04, 2008, 09:38:25 AM
Katherine,
I know from experience that it is difficult to save seeds of Corydalis. One day here - next day gone.
Nevertheless I would be very happy to receive some seed of cava if you think that it is possible to locate a white one. I do appreciate that most seedlings from a white plant might be red but I lost my only white cava some years ago and find no replacement.
I assume you know that the seed must be sown very quickly before they dry out completely.
My experience of solidas is that they come surprisingly true to colour.
My Corydalises are just starting. I hope I can post something next week.
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 04, 2008, 10:18:40 AM
Corydalis cava also has just the one perennial tuber which gets larger every year, instead of splitting and increasing to form a clump like C. solida. However, when the tuber gets very large and hollow, you can multiply a good clone by breaking up the brittle hollow tuber and replanting - every piece will regrow into a separate tuber. I don't think cava and solida hybridise as they're from different series. The scent from cava flowers really is quite intense and I think it's an under-rated plant. 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Ola on April 04, 2008, 01:43:00 PM

But I think the giveaway is that the flowers closest to the camera are completely dye-free, so probably still in a pot, with the dyed flowers cut and stood in dye.
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Right you are Martin. The flowers were coloured with the food dye Brilliant Blue, E133. However, being a chemist I might have som true 'Blue Gal' in the future. Maybe next year in April. ;)

Paul, the Thlaspi is T. stylosum. It seeds around a lot.
Ola
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 04, 2008, 01:54:46 PM

But I think the giveaway is that the flowers closest to the camera are completely dye-free, so probably still in a pot, with the dyed flowers cut and stood in dye.

Right you are Martin. The flowers were coloured with the food dye Brilliant Blue, E133.
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Ola, I assume you now have a bunch of very hyperactive snowdrop flowers.  :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 04, 2008, 07:14:24 PM
Franz do you ever get a cloudy day? How far do you live from the Czech border? The AGS Ulster Group may be in CZ next year
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Of course we have also cloudy days, particularly if I take a photo.
From the border 100 km, from Prague 400 km.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 04, 2008, 07:37:20 PM
The white Corydalis cava is really a beautiful plant. I like it!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 04, 2008, 07:41:17 PM
Certainly is, Franz!  Lovely.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 05, 2008, 07:19:40 AM
The white Corydalis cava is really a beautiful plant. I like it!

On your picture is even more beautiful! :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 05, 2008, 07:24:11 AM
I would be very happy to receive some seed of cava if you think that it is possible to locate a white one.

Göte,
I will try to do something for you.  :) There are many whites also.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: art600 on April 05, 2008, 09:54:12 AM
We have a real little charmer flowering today.... a Turkish Muscari sp. that we got from Arthur......I'd show you a photo of it, but the BD has embargoed it for his Bulb Log! So watch out for it there.... but THANKS, Arthur, it is just a little sweetie.

Maggi

Glad you like it.  Can Ian give it a name?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 05, 2008, 07:33:14 PM

The best and most beautiful place for Degenia velebitica
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on April 05, 2008, 07:42:26 PM
Does that mean it likes lots of moisture Franz?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 05, 2008, 08:12:54 PM
No David, that is the dry corner of a sand bed. The pipe is support for the shade.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on April 05, 2008, 08:15:59 PM
Ah! Thanks for that Franz.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 05, 2008, 08:19:30 PM

A couple of Daphne's,

Daphne Whiteorum Beauworth.
Daphne tichbourne

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Casalima on April 06, 2008, 12:36:18 PM
The unidentified leaves from up in the hills that I posted around this time last year are in fact Scilla verna (I believe). Not on the coast by any means, but if they have good eyesight, they can just about see the sea on a good day!

Chloë
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 06, 2008, 07:37:44 PM
Some plants from my garden:
Scilla ssp.?
Trillium p.
Corydalis ssp.?
Primula marginata
Sempervivum from Italy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 06, 2008, 07:50:15 PM
Franz do you mean Degenia velebitica needs shade?

Gerd what are the small white flowered plants in the tough?

It's great so see so much colour in gardens right now. Mine is too much yellow. I have the urge to remake my rockery in to a huge crevice bed
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 06, 2008, 07:54:32 PM
Gerd what are the small white flowered plants in the tough?

Draba dedeana, the same species as in pic no. 3

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 06, 2008, 07:56:52 PM
Maggi remember Prunus 'Comet' from last Feb when I stayed with you and Ian? Past it's best now but was looking great until the winds got it
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 06, 2008, 07:57:25 PM
Thanks Gerd.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 06, 2008, 08:03:05 PM
Yes, I do remember the Prunus, Mark. Good colour, isn't it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 06, 2008, 08:06:19 PM
I can't remember if you got one? Straight after flowering I cut all stems back to a couple of buds. This resulted in the good straight stems shown. Next year I might take it to our show.

edit Maggi.... no I did not get one.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 06, 2008, 08:44:38 PM
Mark,
In my garden it needs a shade in afternoon.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 07, 2008, 12:21:57 AM
Gerd,

Love that blue Dentaria.  Very nice!!

Hans,

Great pics.  Cute blue Muscari, and the Trillium is delightful!!

Mark,

Nice colour to the Prunus.  Is it a P. glandulosa variety?  I cut the glandulosa down each year to a few cm tall, then get 2 to 3 foot tall straight pipe-cleaners or flowers each spring.  I also pollard my P. 'Elvins' for the same reason.  Wonderful results pruning them hard like that, aren't they!!

Thanks everyone!!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 07, 2008, 07:47:45 AM
Just beautiful everything.

Gerd,
your Drabas grow on tufa, or what kind of rocks are there? I like them very much, but until now I didn't manage to keep alive D. bryoides. :'( Also brunifolia looks a little sad at the end of summer.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 07, 2008, 09:15:10 AM
Paul I dont know the species. When Googling it only comes up as P. 'Comet'

Franz are you referring to the Prunus? I would say your summers are much better than ours. Mine lives in a 30+cm pot in full sun (when we get it)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 07, 2008, 11:03:35 AM
Kathrine, Mark
Sorry, I just detected that pic number 3 was the same as number 2.
So I removed the message and started a new one here
Kathrine: Draba dedeana in pic no. 3 grows on tufa, the others in the trough have a good drainage. Don't know why they do well - in summer and autumn they look a little bit damaged.

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 07, 2008, 01:24:28 PM
I had hoped to be able to take some good photos in the weekend but the strange weather has made some of theplants as confused as i am myself ;D
This is a very normal Hepatica nobilis that used to be Anemone hepatica.
Perhaps I can get better pictures in a few days.
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 07, 2008, 01:48:01 PM
Göte,

It might be "normal", but it's still absolutely delightful!!  Glorious colour!!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 07, 2008, 01:59:29 PM
Corydalis malkensis is one of my favourites.
It comes true from seed, It has wider lips to the flower and is earlier than most solidas. (But solidas are taller)
I cannot help two of the pictures are from previous years. but I want to illustrate thet wide lip and that it usually has a side branch of flowers.
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 07, 2008, 02:05:36 PM
Göte,

Very cool.  I do like that wide lip you're talking about.  Not a species I'd seen before.  Is it always white, or does it come in other colours as well?  Until the SRGC forums I had had little experience with Corydalis, but there are so many of them out there.  Beautiful!!  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 07, 2008, 02:11:15 PM
Corydalis solida is also one of my favourites. The mice also like it - for its culinary properties not estetical.  ;)
The first is a white 'Penza', the second a bluish 'Penza' The third is a red self sown seedling. It seems that the reds tend to come fairly true.
 Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 07, 2008, 02:13:59 PM
Paul
Thank you for your kind words.
Malkensis is as far as I know always white but very slightly creamish white not sparkling bluish
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 07, 2008, 02:19:05 PM
There are so many fantastic Helebores shown on these pages but I think that the original wild is quite charming too. It looks a little twisted this year. That is the result of our winter coming at Easter.
This is a real first-generation immigrant from Cocaeli peninsula Turkey.
Helleborus orientalis of course.
Göte 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 07, 2008, 02:25:53 PM
When I am at the more humble population :D
Chrysosplenium alternifolium is called 'Gold dusty' in Swedish.
It is supposed to grow in places where there is a spring or where a well could be sunk.
I doubt that it will be seen on the show bench but it is an early nice golden patch in a moist darkish place.
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 07, 2008, 10:43:10 PM
Here are two forms of Ranunculus asiaticus and a wee tulip.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 07, 2008, 11:09:37 PM
Gote,

Those Corydalis solida are wonderful.  I can't wait to find out what the seedlings from you a couple of years ago end up flowering like.  I'm expecting them to take a couple of years more to flower, as I would imagine they're not quite ideal conditions here!!  Seeing the pics of them here just reminds me of the joys awaiting me when they do flower.  Great pics.  8)

I tried Chrysosplenium alternifolium here a few years ago but it never came back.  I'd been told it was annual here and would seed each season, but it never came back.  Interesting, although not exactly spectacular!!  ::)

Nice Tulip, Anthony (Yeah, the Ranuncs aren't too bad either!  :P).
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: derekb on April 08, 2008, 07:19:24 PM

Two from me Allium akaka,
 this I had from a Forum member but she no longer posts the name on the seed packet was Pulsatilla rosea, I am not sure.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 08, 2008, 08:17:23 PM
Derek, your pulsatilla reminds me of the fringed forms that I think were shown on the old forum by Gwen Black,  who loved those types and also Ranunculus ficaria forms. 
On Saturday at Edinburgh Show we were saying that we haven't heard or seen much from the Blacks since they moved to Muir of Ord.... if you are out here reading this, Gwen or Johnny do tell  us how  you are keeping  :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 08, 2008, 08:40:37 PM
R. asiaticus - I'm green with envy.

The Tulip is most likely T. aucheriana. I havent seen mine this this year. Must have a poke tomorrow
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 09, 2008, 06:38:04 PM
Here are some shots from my garden - made around midday today

1. + 2. Anemone pavonina from Macedonia - grown outside without problems
           (with A. blanda - ex wild collected seeds)
3. + 4. Anemone flaccida - small form
5.        Anemone flaccida - as usual
6.        Allium paradoxum - the form with good flowers
7.        Sanguinaria canadensis
8.        Primula denticulata ex wild collected seeds

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 09, 2008, 06:42:26 PM
and the rest

1. Viola ? riviniana ex Turkey
2. Viola alba x chelmea - a hybrid from Mt. Dirphys, Euboea
3. Viola xanthopetala from the Ussuri region

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 09, 2008, 09:01:32 PM
Great Anemone shots Gerd !  They could have been taken in the wild  :D

Here's some Spring pleasure in my garden :

Erythronium multiscapodium cliftonii - Hep. nobilis and Ranunculus ficaria "Brazen hussy"
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 10, 2008, 12:03:28 PM
Great Anemone shots Gerd !  They could have been taken in the wild  :D

Thank you Luc, my garden seems to be very wild indeed - especially concerning all kinds of weeds which love my beds too  ;D

Your tamed weed Ranunculus ficaria is a fine looking cultivar!

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 10, 2008, 12:59:45 PM

Your tamed weed Ranunculus ficaria is a fine looking cultivar!

Gerd
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It 's not as tame as I'd like it to be Gerd - if I don't dead head it it seeds around like mad !!!  ::)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: annew on April 10, 2008, 05:36:06 PM
Gerd, your white allium is very pretty, is it well-behaved in the garden?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: derekb on April 10, 2008, 06:44:51 PM
Derek, your pulsatilla reminds me of the fringed forms that I think were shown on the old forum by Gwen Black,  who loved those types and also Ranunculus ficaria forms. 
On Saturday at Edinburgh Show we were saying that we haven't heard or seen much from the Blacks since they moved to Muir of Ord.... if you are out here reading this, Gwen or Johnny do tell  us how  you are keeping  :D


No Maggi the seed came from Poland I think you can guess who, I will contact her to see if all is OK.
Derek
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 10, 2008, 09:38:18 PM
Gerd, your white allium is very pretty, is it well-behaved in the garden?

Anne,
I believe it is the varietas normale . Until now it behaves much better than Allium flavum for instance or Allium vineale (a monster!). I would describe it as a smaller and hardy version of Allium triquetrum, which is very tender here.
Look at http://www.odysseybulbs.com/allium.html

Gerd

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: art600 on April 10, 2008, 10:12:55 PM
No Maggi the seed came from Poland I think you can guess who, I will contact her to see if all is OK.
Derek

Derek
If it sets seed, I would love to have some.  David Robbins sends you his regards - he does not possess a computer, but hogs mine when he visits.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Oakwood on April 11, 2008, 11:48:42 AM
Hi all, I'm a newcomer here, will share with you some pics with my garden plants and some bulbs flowering now in Crimea and Azov Sea Steppe!  ;)

 Adonis wolgensis Azov Steppe
 Corydalis marschalliana taurica Crimea
 Corydalis paczoskii alba Crimea
 Crocus susianus_angustifolius Crimea
 Cyclamen kuznetzovii Crimea
 Scilla bifolia taurica alba Crimea
 Scilla bifolia taurica Crimea
 Scilla bifolia taurica rosea Crimea.
 Scilla bifolia taurica sky-blue Crimea.
 Tulipa graniticola Azov Steppe

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 11, 2008, 11:59:13 AM
Dimitri! A warm welcome to you!
What a good start to your Forum posts to have these fine photos from the wild. Thank you!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 11, 2008, 12:02:07 PM
Dimitri,

Welcome!!  :D  Wonderful pics!!  That yellow Corydalis is lovely, and I don't think I've ever heard of that Cyclamen species before.  The Scilla bifolia colours are all wonderful to see together.  I didn't realise that it came in so many colours.

Beautiful!  Thanks for posting the pics for us. 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 11, 2008, 12:33:26 PM
:o :o :o

What a good start you did, Dimitri!
Welcome to the world's best plant forum!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Oakwood on April 11, 2008, 12:47:49 PM
Maggy! Many thanks for such warm welcome! I'll try to visit your wonderful forum as often as I can!

Paul! Many thanks too! This yellow Corydalis is polyploid form, that grows only in Crimea, of wide spread common species C. marschalliana.
And Cyclamen kuznetzovii is a local very narrow endemic of Crimean Mnts. from coum complex. It grows there only in one very restricted area  :'(
Scilla bifolia ssp taurica is polyploid form too. Such color forms I met this year only in one place 5 m2 around during all my trips in Crimea before. I'm too so surprised to meet this population there growing all together! As usually this species is bright blue.
Here below I post more add pics from Crimee and my garden - ENJOY!

Tulipa koktebelica Crimea
 Gymnospermium odessanum
 Galanthus plicatus Crimea.
 Galanthus plicatus & Cyclamen kuznetzovii Crimea
 Corydalis paczoskii Crimea
 Erythronium caucasicum rose form.
 Scilla sibirica f. rosea
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 11, 2008, 12:50:56 PM
Dimitri,

Again, truly beautiful.  That Erythronium is gorgeous, and Yes I can see the link of the Cyclamen to coum.  Looks very nice!!  Great pics.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Oakwood on April 11, 2008, 12:52:08 PM
Thomas! Many thanks! ;D
I'm agree with you, it's the best plant and bulb forum on line!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ashley on April 11, 2008, 02:10:52 PM
Welcome Dimitri and thanks for such great pictures.  It's always so good to see these plants in their natural habitat. 

Do you think that Cyclamen kusnetzovii has features that reliably distinguish it from others in the coum complex, apart from its distribution?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: olegKon on April 11, 2008, 03:48:34 PM
Spring here lags behind West European but is going at a fast rate, so we enjoy everything flovering together. Here are some recent pictures. Good chance to compare different species of Gymnospermum.
Dima, is G. odessanum the same plant I grow as G. altaicum?

Crocus tom.Whitewell
 Crocus chr Saturnus
 Draba corabensis
 Gymnospermium alberti
 Gymnospermium altaicum
 Hepatica transsilvanica
 Iris reticulata & danfordii
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 11, 2008, 05:43:57 PM
Welcome from me too Dimitri and what an entrance you made !!  :o :o
A wonderful show of plants - you being a bit behind, makes us out here in the West enjoy early Spring a little longer looking at your plants !!!  ;D

I hope you'll show us lots more !

In my garden, I found Arenaria granatensis tetraquetra looking quite good today - so here it is :

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Susan Band on April 11, 2008, 06:01:30 PM
Dimitri,
I have just seen your picture of Adonis wolgensis, How different is it from vernalis and what are the differences
Susan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 11, 2008, 06:36:26 PM
After a couple of weeks with cold weather, the last days have showed a more friendly face. Sun and 15 degrees is not bad. The flowers likes it as as much the people. Here a couple of pictures.
1. Scilla rosenii
2. Muscari chalusicum
3. Corydalis malkensis
4. Fritillaria hermonis armana 'Gokzum Gold'
5. Saxifraga x biasolettii 'Jorg'
6. Saxifraga x grata 'Gratoides'
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: derekb on April 11, 2008, 06:57:19 PM
 This is the first time I have flowered Calanthe bicolor
Derek
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: derekb on April 11, 2008, 07:03:48 PM

Arthur I will PM you when I have the seeds I have several other colours too will see nearer time.
Ask Dave to call and see me when he is about.

Derek
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 07:29:04 PM
Some Daphne's.
Sorry about the quality of the pics but it was bitter cold here today.


Daphne petraea.
Daphne x  mantensiana  Audrey Vokins.
Daphne x  rollsdorfii Arnold Cihlarz.
Daphne x hendersonii ernst Hauser.
Daphne x transatlantica Jims Pride.
Daphne Kilmeston Beauty
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: afw on April 11, 2008, 08:08:00 PM
Michael,

Thanks for the marvellous photos of your daphnes. Are they grafted or on their own roots? It is amazing that they are so floriferous on such small plants.

Alan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 08:19:46 PM
Alan, Jims Pride is from cuttings,the others are grafted.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: afw on April 11, 2008, 08:26:57 PM
Michael

I forgot to ask how old the plants are.

Alan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 08:37:22 PM
Alan, Audrey vokins and Kilmeston beauty are this years grafts, (20th Jan) the others are last years grafts and cuttings.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 09:03:42 PM
Alan, I can take a a general view of the cuttings and grafts tomorrow if you want to compare them.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 11, 2008, 09:11:05 PM
Alan, I can take a a general view of the cuttings and grafts tomorrow if you want to compare them.
Michael, I would appreciate that, too, please. Weather permitting!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 09:17:36 PM
Maggi, I just noticed that I have acquired a title
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 11, 2008, 09:26:40 PM
Michael, I had been trying for a while to find a good title for you, then , the  other week, when someone mentioned how amazing your range of skills and plants is, I thought that had to be the one.. so "Mr Amazing " you became... and a richly deserved title it is, too!  :-*
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 09:44:57 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: afw on April 11, 2008, 09:52:52 PM
Michael.

Yes please, if not too much trouble, and as Maggi says, weather permitting.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 10:04:37 PM
Will do.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 11, 2008, 10:10:20 PM
Michael, I have some very straggly old Daphne petraea 'Grandiflora' that I've been thinking of cutting back hard and using the prunings as cuttings this Spring or Early Summer, hoping to get some rooted cuttings and rejuvenate the old plants into neater bushier things all at the same time. Do you think that's advisable or have any other tips of D. petraea from cuttings and/or cutting back old straggly plants to make them neater and bushier again?

I'm amazed at the range of stuff you propagate and hybridize. Are you sure you're not still a one-man nursery?  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 11, 2008, 10:22:20 PM
Or do you think it'd be better to plant the straggly D. petraeas in some troughs I'm replanting this Spring, in very well-drained mix including pumice grit amongst tufa lumps, planted deeper than in the pots so the straggly shoots are buried and hope they layer themselves? Do you (or anyone else) grow any D. petraea outdoors successfully? Maybe in troughs? I don't want to lose my old plants to winter wet, but I think they might do better outside than in my dirty, shady old lean-to.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 10:33:06 PM
Martin, Plant your Petraea out in the troughs and and cover the lower branches with coarse sand,you could scrape the bottom of the branches lightly to encourage rooting. In summer when you get some new growth make some cuttings in a compost with at least 50% sand and leave them until next spring and some of the should be rooted. If any of the branches root you could pot them up next April.

Re. one man nursery, old habits die hard.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 10:38:48 PM
Martin, I have just planted some Daphne's out  in a scree bed, but not Petraea as I do not have enough stock yet to risk it.I use all my plants for propagation as Petraea is always in good demand,and I have a waiting list. 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 10:56:38 PM
I know this is a little off topic but here is a picture of my Camellia hedge takes a few weeks ago.
Camellias in the back garden.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 11, 2008, 11:02:01 PM
Michael,

Wow!!!!!  :o  Those Daphnes are living up to your new title!!  Amazing!!  :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 11, 2008, 11:03:34 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 12, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
Thanks for the advice Michael. I'll try putting the Daphne petraeas in the troughs and layering them. Nice camellia hedge!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
Maggi & Alan, here are the Daphne's
 General view 2 - 3 -14
4 Cuttings
5 Grafts
6 Grafts to the left and cuttings to the right of the timber divider.
19 Cuttings.
23 Grafts
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 03:07:26 PM
Here are a few variegated Daphne's if you happen to like them, personally I don't.

Daphne Peter Moore
Daphne Golden treasure
Daphne clotted cream
Daphne Audrey Vokins
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: afw on April 12, 2008, 03:46:58 PM
Michael
Thank you very much for showing us your daphne propagation house, your skill as a nurseryman is very much in evidence.  Do you use the misting technique to maintain growth?
Maggi's epithet of Mr Amazing is well earned.
Alan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 04:39:10 PM
Alan, no mist and no heating cables, just a 5' x 2' heat pad.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 04:45:22 PM
The Trillium's are starting to bloom.
I am afraid I nicked the pollen on a few of them for pollination
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 12, 2008, 05:35:54 PM
Michael I'm blown away with your huge collection of plants.

What I see in the Daphne house is by far superior to what I bought last year from _ _ _ _ _  _ _ _ _ _ _ - am I allowed to say, Maggi? edit M: Best not too, Mark! They came minus their pots, to save postage!!, in plastic bags in a box with no support of any kind
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 07:10:49 PM
Mark,Daphne's don't like to travel without their pots,they resent any root disturbance. Very temperamental plants.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 07:15:18 PM
A few more Trillium Rivale including a couple almost pure white.Sorry about the specks of dust,didn't notice until I put them on the computer.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 08:00:06 PM
A couple braving the weather in the scree bed.
Morisia Fred Hemingway.
Douglasia laevigata, I think that this plant has changed its name again, but my brain is not computing at the moment.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 12, 2008, 08:11:45 PM
Trillium 027 has great anthers

Most of the daphnes I bought from that supplier never recovered. They are now struggling to stay alive
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 12, 2008, 08:40:55 PM
Mark,were the Daphne's on their own roots or grafted?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: art600 on April 12, 2008, 09:36:16 PM
With Robin White of Blackthorn Nursery retiring, we shall have to look to Michael to quench the thirst of an increasing number of people who want well grown Daphnes.

Michael, I would love to place an order on my return from Iran, so do not sell all your stock.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 12, 2008, 09:57:32 PM
With Robin White of Blackthorn Nursery retiring, we shall have to look to Michael to quench the thirst of an increasing number of people who want well grown Daphnes.

I was going to say, does anyone know who are the best sources for the small daphnes now Blackthorn are closed for retail (I didn't manage to get there this year for their last open days  :-[  )

I think they may still be doing some propagating of the daphnes, but does anyone know what retail mail order sources might be offering their plants or a similar range? I know Karen Junker sometimes offers a few but not the range that Blackthorn used to sell and she's usually sold out of most and operating waiting lists. I could cry now when I think of all the times I was there and thought "I can't afford anything else now - I'll get one of those next year" only to find there weren't going to be any more next years at Blackthorn. I should have got them when they were available and to hell with the expense (easy to say with hindsight of course).
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 12, 2008, 10:02:28 PM
A couple of orchids in flower and an asarum and a corydalis
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 12, 2008, 10:15:07 PM
Michael,

Lovely rivale as always!!  Love that deep pink one and the shape of 0024 in particular.  Beautiful!!

Tony,

Interesting Asarum.  I don't think I've seen a full black one before, and haven't heard of that species.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 12, 2008, 10:39:38 PM
The Bermuda Buttercup (Oxalis sp.) grows like a weed in my greenhouse. Its tiny bulbs get everywhere, but I like it.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: t00lie on April 13, 2008, 05:37:43 AM
Quote earlier today from Mr Amazing--

"Maggi & Alan, here are the Daphne's
 General view 2 - 3 -14
4 Cuttings
5 Grafts
6 Grafts to the left and cuttings to the right of the timber divider.
19 Cuttings.
23 Grafts".

Wonderful pics Michael.

Here's my small contribution to the subject of Daphne's....

At the NZ Alpine Weekend back in Jan of this year i attended a workshop on grafting.Specifically we practised grafting Daphne's and under the watchful eye of our tutor Merv Holland the following couple are my success's from that weekend .Not sure but i think the rootstock was D. longilobata.

The last pic is of a Daphne x hendersonii  i purchased from Merv at the weekends sales table showing the graft fully calloused,(? ),over.

I understand Daphne's are easy to graft and i'm no expert for sure however i have many many seedlings of D. oleoides popping up around the back garden so i'm tempted to have ago on my own and use these as rootstock on a few other different D's. i'd like to increase.

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: t00lie on April 13, 2008, 05:40:59 AM
Oops .Here is the mature D.x hendersonii.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 13, 2008, 06:08:26 AM
Great stuff Dave.  Congratulations.  So what does your feral oleoides look like?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: t00lie on April 13, 2008, 06:38:21 AM
Hello Paul

My D. oleoides bush grown from seed stands at about a metre and a bit --although it has nice white flowers they do not smother the plant as much as i'd like and to be honest a few times i've looked at removing it because of that reason and also its berries which if left to fall from now on,germinate willy nilly.

I know it drops quite a few leaves but for the life of me can't remember whether it is totally deciduous or not.

Cheers dave.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 13, 2008, 07:35:11 AM
Some shots from yesterday
1. Anemone pavonina self seeded
2. Saruma henryi
3.Primula hirsuta alba

and from my ' mini bog '
4.Primula rosea
5. Viola uliginosa
6. Caltha palustris alba
7. Caltha sagittata - from Chile, unexpectedly hardy

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2008, 08:16:01 AM
Martin, Aberconwy have a good selection of Daphnes. You're not far from Karen Junker
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: afw on April 13, 2008, 10:56:13 AM
I found this site, might be useful: www.charleshurstplants.co.uk
They do a limited selection of daphnes.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2008, 12:33:10 PM
pages 5, 6 and 7 - grown in 1L pots so they must be quite big
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 13, 2008, 09:06:23 PM
Thanks Mark and Alan. I must try to get to Aberconwy next time we take the kids rock scrambling around Snowdon, hopefully this Summer. It's a super nursery but getting the family to spend an hour or two there isn't easy when they can be up in the mountains instead. And that other nursery is not far from Blackthorn and quite close to the warehouse of one of my book distributors, where I deliver books a few times a year so should be visitable. Now I just need to find the money!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 13, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
Quote
I understand Daphne's are easy to graft and i'm no expert for sure however i have many many seedlings of D. oleoides popping up around the back garden so i'm tempted to have ago on my own and use these as rootstock on a few other different D's. i'd like to increase.

Dave, you are correct,Daphne's are easy to graft, and easy to root from cuttings,it is growing them on that poses the problems. You will find that the rootstock you mentioned might not be compatible with some of the varieties you want to propagate. If they are that easy why isn't there more of them generally available in the nurseries,and why are they so expensive.?
Let me know how you get on.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 13, 2008, 11:05:46 PM
Quote
If they are that easy why isn't there more of them generally available in the nurseries,and why are they so expensive?
 
Indeed, Michael!  There's often a clue . In skilled hands the beginning is straigthtforward enough, it is the growing on that is the tricky bit, eh?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 13, 2008, 11:17:43 PM
Hard graft then maggi!  ;)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 14, 2008, 01:00:02 AM
Gerd, what is Saruma henryi please?

Dave, your D. oleoides is much bigger than mine. I've had it about 25 years and it's never grown higher than about 20cms!

This is an incredible thread, ESPECIALLY Michael's posting, all truly wonderful, beautiful, helpful. Thank you so much Michael and everyone.

And a warm, though belated, welcome to Dimitri, from the southern hemisphere. I like your atavar, with your head as well as well as your heart, obviously in the right place :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 14, 2008, 06:28:48 AM
Gerd, what is Saruma henryi please?

Lesley,
It is a member of the Aristolochiaceae - a 'new' woodland plant from China, deciduous and seems to be quite hardy. Seeds were offered by SRGC, AGS and NARGS.

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: t00lie on April 14, 2008, 10:18:49 AM
Quote from Michael...
"Dave, you are correct,Daphne's are easy to graft, and easy to root from cuttings,it is growing them on that poses the problems. You will find that the rootstock you mentioned might not be compatible with some of the varieties you want to propagate. If they are that easy why isn't there more of them generally available in the nurseries,and why are they so expensive.?
Let me know how you get on."

Damn it and i had visions of a weeping scented Daphne shrub --ie guess my idea of a D. oleoides rootstock at a metre high ,grafted with D.blagayana  isn't a goer after all..Smile.Lol.

On a more serious note thank you Michael for the warning --as i say i'm only a learner so it will be a bit of --one foot forward --two feet back for a while.I'll probably end up contacting you for advice.

Lesley i remember last year ? you showed a pic on this forum of your D. oleoides in fruit --so much smaller than mine.Yours looked a beauty ideally suited for a trough.Has it any seed this year ??.Hint.

Cheers Dave.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 14, 2008, 10:51:55 AM
This weekend we had to work, so had only one afternoon for walking. BUT, we found a place near Budapest with plenty of Iris pumila just in full bloom. :) There were many color variations.
Here are some pix:
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 14, 2008, 10:53:42 AM
And:
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 14, 2008, 10:55:14 AM
Great selection Kata !!!!
Beautiful wild plants - thanks for showing us.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 14, 2008, 10:55:19 AM
Sorry for the not too sharp pics. Here are the last three:
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 14, 2008, 11:04:29 AM
Kathrine,

Very cool to see them in the wild.  Some very nice colour forms there!!  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 14, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
Flowering Androsace hausmannii seedlings and Androsace villosa ssp.?
I sent wild collected seed to Franz H., I lost all plants and then Franz sent back me his seed. I think this year I will have seed again.



Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 14, 2008, 12:33:41 PM
Katherine,
Fantastic Irises.
they look as good as the named varieties.
I am making a mental note to look out for seeds next season.
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 14, 2008, 01:03:13 PM
That's magnificient, Kathrine!
Would like to have such a place like that nearby.
I only saw these Irises once during summer east of Vienna without flowers,
but with much variation in the leaves. These are beautiful selections.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 14, 2008, 08:31:54 PM
Lovely irises Kata. Can you put them on the Iris Page?

Dave, I didn't collect the seed this year. It's fallen into the trough and once the orange flesh dries up, they're invisible among the stones. But I have a bunch of seedlings from the summer before last and you can have a couple of those. I've still to pot them up though.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on April 14, 2008, 08:39:32 PM
Lovely Irises Kata, I agree with Lesley please put them on the Iris page as well.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on April 14, 2008, 09:55:35 PM
One from the garden today, Pulsatilla vulgaris quite common but a nice form I think

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 14, 2008, 10:35:19 PM
Here some flowers on my raised bed.
The Iris leaves have suffered badly from last weeks frosts.
Another plant was a bit earlier and almost all the flowers are frozen.

Iris bucharica Dark Yellow Form
Degenia velebitica     
Fibigia triquetra
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hans A. on April 14, 2008, 10:39:56 PM
Thanks all for the pics.
Kata great to see Iris pumila in the wild!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 14, 2008, 11:38:22 PM
katherine  lovely irises, very similar to those in Greece and Turkey.I have one from Hungary in flower now on my raised bed.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 15, 2008, 05:51:56 AM
Nice pics, Luit. The Degenia and the Fibigia are very similar to eachother, aren't they?
Is Fibigia more persistant than Degenia?

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 15, 2008, 07:17:20 AM
Nice pics, Luit. The Degenia and the Fibigia are very similar to eachother, aren't they?
Is Fibigia more persistant than Degenia?

Gerd

Gerd, I think they are both equal in time of living but are both easy seeders.
For the Degenia I believe this is a good place in our sand and I am curious how long it will stay with me.
A November month with much rain and no hard winds could be very bad for it I believe.
We'll see.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 15, 2008, 07:40:26 AM
I have never seen a yellow I. pumila

ZZ showed us slides last year of how he does Daphne cuttings. He makes small clay balls with plant food added. The cutting is taken, dipped in hormone rooting powder and pushed in to the clay ball. The clay ball is about the size of a cherry. The balls are then set in a plastic container with a layer of sand that is kept permanently wet
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 15, 2008, 07:46:22 AM
My Fibigia always looks sick and has never flowered
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 15, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
Mark, I'm quite interested in this method of daphne cutting.  Do you mean the ball of clay is 'planted' on the bottom of the plastic container, then sand put all around it, or is the clay on top of the sand?  I may try this rather than the other more difficult method of using grafts.  I wonder too, whether it would work for other shrubby things?  Now to find a friend with some clay to give me.... I'm on pure sand here.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 15, 2008, 02:13:00 PM
I passed one of the roads out of Örebro yesterday and could not resist taking a picture.
Hepaticas have not been giving the right show this year. The flowering season has been streched so the flowers look fewer. Here is a native red.
I bought this as Scilla melaina. It is like a light coloured siberica but not invasive at all. Indeed very slow to increase - but nice.
My Helleborus viride seeds itself everywhere so I used to remove them as weeds. One year I put a couple aside to give away and they showed up as new hybrids.
Thus I now have to save as many as possible and see what they look like. The one in the picture is new for the year  :) - and located between two big stones where I cannot get it out  >:( 
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 15, 2008, 03:31:03 PM
Lovely display Gote, lifts the spirits to drive past that every day I bet
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 15, 2008, 06:08:58 PM
Here are a few in flowers today.

Iris bucharica. Hope the ID is correct.

Muscari macrocarpum
This is my favourite muscari. It has a wonderful smell.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 15, 2008, 07:08:04 PM
Oh my, a yello muscari - and its scented.  Must put it on my wish list....
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Carlo on April 15, 2008, 07:30:53 PM
Franz,

Sure looks like Iris bucharica.

Muscari macrocarpum is blooming here too.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 15, 2008, 07:41:08 PM
This is one of a number of dysosma seedlings I have raised.I am pleased they survived the winter in the garden and they are turning into nice plants for foliage effect
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 15, 2008, 11:29:29 PM
Are these seedlings raised from your own seed Tony? I've not had seed on any - or flowers - except Podophyllum (is it now Dysosma as well?) hexandrum. Which species are involved and did you hand polinate them?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 16, 2008, 12:18:29 AM
Lesley, yes they are from my own seed.I got the plants from Chen yi and they are the usual ones including Chinese ones including delavayi,but I think the names are mixed up. They flowered whilst I was away in Turkey three years ago and I left the pollination in the hands of my Lesley and she dabbled with a paintbrush whilst I was away.A couple of nice fat seed pods developed and I managed to raise a couple of dozen plants from the seeds. They are no good in pots and so I planted them out and they appear to be doing well.They are not self fertile.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 16, 2008, 02:24:18 PM
My best red Corydalis, C transsylvanica 'Lahovice Strain'.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ruweiss on April 16, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
Some pictures from my garden:
Frit. pallidiflora
Larix decidua 'Kreijczi',a crested witches broom from Czech Republic and Pinus mugo 'Fischleinboden',
also a W.B.;both are very slow growing.
Androsace sempervivoides,barbulata glabrata and Kosopolyanski enjoy the good growing conditions
of a crevice garden,created by ZZ.
Viola somchetica from Caucasus.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 16, 2008, 07:12:25 PM
Rudi, lovely photos from your garden.
The slow forum connection has prevented me from seeing your post for the last few hours!  :( How pleased I am now to be able to enjoy them. ::)
 Your plants are ahead of ours,  our F. pallidiflora buds are still more green than yellow!
The conifers from withes' brooms are most intriguing... I think they are very popular in Czech gardens?
So you are another Forumist with a ZZ garden!?! Lucky you!  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on April 16, 2008, 07:36:18 PM
My best red Corydalis, C transsylvanica 'Lahovice Strain'.

That is a lovely Corydalis Kenneth.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: HClase on April 17, 2008, 01:51:29 AM
Here's what emerged from the melting snow here today - they were actually flowering up through the snow earlier, but we had a sunny day and all of 7C.  Very ordinary plants I'm afraid, but it shows how far behind we are.  Maybe I should start a "Flowering now Newfoundland" thread?  Is there anywhere else at the same stage?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 17, 2008, 09:07:02 AM
I grow a small collection of named cultivars of Corydalis solida in the open ground and this means that I get new plants all the time - some of them are impossible to distinguish from the named ones and some are new. This is a new light pink one that is just starting into flowering for the season. (Photo from yesterday)
Göte
PS
The inference is of course that I am not a very efficient weeder  ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 17, 2008, 11:09:35 AM

Howard, great that Spring is coming to you and how good to share it with you. I hope that your Spring proves more persistent than ours!



Göte, I'm sorry, this phrase you use, " not a very efficient weeder"..... I don't seem to understand it at all.... could you explain/  ::) ::) ;)


Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 17, 2008, 11:21:03 AM
Göte,

No, you're an efficient weeder.... its just that you don't feel the Corydalis are weeds, thats all.  ;D  If you didn't want them you'd pull them out, but you want to see what colours they end up.  Its all in the perspective.... you don't necessarily need to admit to not weeding when you can just say that you're trying to find new and interesting colour combinations that you might otherwise miss?  ;D ;)

And that's a very nice pale pink version that you especially didn't weed out because you KNEW it was going to be special!!  :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 17, 2008, 11:30:30 AM
I think that Göte is like many gardeners and not pull all seedlings out when weeding.
We are always curious what is coming new maybe. You never know..... ;)

After warning someone was posting   ??? , read what Paul writes.
We seem to have the same meaning, only he writes it much better than I do. 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Oakwood on April 17, 2008, 02:55:15 PM
Hi there! I'm on line again, was in my garden, made some pics of wild collected and most beautiful forms of Iris pumila from out steppes. It blooms now at me.

to Ashley - Cyclamen kuznetzovii differs from other coum complex by smooth corm surface and not velvety as in coum species.

to Oleg - Gymnospermium odessanum is a different unique species and has no cognation with G. altaicum.

to Susan - Adonis wolgensis is a quite separate species that differs very well from A. vernalis by leaves (not so narrow and divided as at vernalis), flowers (more large and wide petals) and wolgensis flowers 2 weeks earlier. And these species have no common intersecting natural habitats.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 17, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Dimitri, these are beautiful wild forms.
I think the hybridizers would have saved lots of time and money when they first would have
gone to your steppes.
The fourth picture (nr. 1) I would give a name. It is stunning!
What is the height of it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 17, 2008, 04:05:14 PM
Absolutely stunning Iris Dimitri !!
Never saw anything like them : I would like 1 - 3 and 5 in my garden, not in the steppe....
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 17, 2008, 07:23:28 PM
To time bloom lots Daphne in my garden.


Daphne retusa
Daphne genkwa

Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ruweiss on April 17, 2008, 08:49:08 PM
Dimitri,hard to believe,that these Iris pumila are wild plants.Such outstandig colours!
Thank you so much for showing them to us.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ruweiss on April 17, 2008, 09:15:50 PM
Maggi,
ZZ and I are friends since more than 25 years, it was not so easy like nowadays to visit him and the
other Czech rockgardeners behind the iron curtain.But nevertheless the exchange of plants and seeds
was quite intensive and I owe a lot of 'goodies' to their generousity.A good experience were also our
mutual trips to Turkey and in advanced age I remind about them with great pleasure.
The picture shows the maestro in action in November 2006.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 17, 2008, 10:43:03 PM
Dimitri, could you post these gorgeous iris pics to the Bearded Iris page as well? They would go nicely with Kata's lovely forms and give a good comparison with other small kinds for iris addicts, such as myself. Thank you.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: HClase on April 18, 2008, 12:28:32 AM
Going back to weedy Corydalis: mine, mostly Janis Ruskan's 'Penza Strain' of C. solida have flowered well for about 5 years, and double each year underground, but never formed seeds as far as I can see.  I suppose it's something to do with pollinators - does anyone know what pollinates them.  I guess there are not many insects around here at that time of the year anyway.  These aliens all flower a month before any local native plants, which obviously know better.  Here's how far my earliest Corydalis have got by today, I suppose they just qualify in the "foliage" section!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Oakwood on April 18, 2008, 10:38:40 AM
Luit! you're right! It's all the forms made by Nature that I'm collecting in steppes around my native city during 10 years and most beautiful clones were found along the Azov Sea coast steppes.
The height of the form 1 is up to 15 cm as another forms too.
About naming - it would be smthng like cherry and ice-cream  ;D

Luc! Will it grow and bloom perfectly in your rainy climate?? cause they all like hot and dry position in garden and not mild winter otherwise it will rot!  :-\

Lesley! I'll try to post these pics in Iris page too with some additional I. pumila forms. It's not all wild collected forms of this species that I have. They are about 15 natural clones at me now.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 18, 2008, 10:56:01 AM

Luc! Will it grow and bloom perfectly in your rainy climate?? cause they all like hot and dry position in garden and not mild winter otherwise it will rot!  :-\


It was wishful thinking on my part Dimitri  ::) !
I do/did grow some I. pumila at some stage - and not unsuccesfully - so I would be optimistic  ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 18, 2008, 11:10:26 AM
It was wishful thinking on my part Dimitri  ::) !
I do/did grow some I. pumila at some stage - and not unsuccesfully - so I would be optimistic  ;D

With me too, Dimitri. Iris pumila vars. and I. suaveolens, both forms, grow excellent in our sandy soil.  :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 18, 2008, 11:40:02 AM
Dimitri,

I'm rather taken with that #1 iris as well (the one titled that, not the first pic posted.... although that one isn't bad either).  I never realised that naturally they occurred like that.  The #1 I'd be very pleased to have growing in my garden too.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: annew on April 18, 2008, 12:50:48 PM
Karl, your Daphne genkwa is super - so many flowers!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 18, 2008, 01:07:38 PM
Anne, many friends think it a Syringa.

Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Oakwood on April 18, 2008, 01:25:58 PM
Yes, sorry to all. May be I'm wrong about proliferacy of I. pumila. I heard from one gardener he collected this species in sandy soils in Astrakhan steppes (lower reaches of Volga) and it grew very deeply there. The rhizomes were not at soil level.

Paul! I think that is mutation in color for form #1, rather it lacks yellow pigment there. Otherwise it would be yellow with brown-red spot on falls.  ;D

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Yuri Pirogov on April 18, 2008, 09:32:47 PM
A bit more Iris pumila. Those are on pasture at sandy soil near Irgakly, Stavropol region, North Caucasus
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Armin on April 18, 2008, 09:41:49 PM
Yuri,
beautiful Iris display and a happy birthday 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 18, 2008, 10:09:02 PM
totally amazing!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 19, 2008, 03:48:15 PM
Two pictures from the woodland today
1. Shortia uniflora
2. Primula denticulata
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 19, 2008, 05:50:00 PM
Beautiful pics - extraordinary plants. It seems Anemone will come soon.

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 19, 2008, 05:59:44 PM
You have sharp eyes! Well, Anemone nemorosa is a very nice spring flower. It has a tendency to take over though and I don't want it right there. At least not to many!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hans A. on April 19, 2008, 10:04:35 PM
great pics all - great to see the shortia!
Here some miles in the south I took some pics today in the garden.

1. Iris kirkwoodii ssp calcarea  (a pale form)
2. Iris paradoxa f. paradoxa
3. Iris acutiloba ssp. lineolata
4. ???? - Unknown Regeliocyclus
5. Gladiolus italicus f. alba (?)

Edit : to show kirkwoodii  is  listed as   Iris kirkwoodiae Chaudhary
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 19, 2008, 10:35:05 PM
Hans,

Beautiful Iris and Glad.  My favourite is definitely the acutiloba ssp lineolata.  Such a striking flower.  :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: tboland on April 19, 2008, 11:08:09 PM
On the other side of the pond, we are about equal to a UK February!  My crocus, galanthus and eranthis are just starting.  The first crocus pic is C. etruscus, followed by C. chrysanthus 'Romance' and C. tommassinianus then C. biflorus var. taurii.  The Galanthus is nivalis 'Flore-pleno'.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 20, 2008, 03:36:11 AM
Ola - A belated thanks for the picture of Cyclamen kusnetzovii.

I read about it recently in Ruksans' Buried Treasures - a great read by the way and he says it may be the hardiest cyclamen. This one is of great interest as other coums can be wiped out in cold snowless winters here especially when entombed in ice. So we need hardy coums.  Do you believe it to be super hardy? What sort of winter temperatures would it see in the wild? Wisely Janus keeps his kusnetzoviis isolated so he gets true seed. Do any nurseries list it with similar treatment to assure the true species?

To date purpurascens is our hardiest cyclamen but it would be nice to have a long-lived reliable spring bloomer.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 20, 2008, 04:11:27 AM
Another collection of amazing plants and pictures. Warmest thanks to their posters.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 20, 2008, 09:27:01 AM
Galleries of fine plant-pictures. Thank you all. My garden is too small. But there are some little places (between the galanthus). Her are two different types of trillium cuneatum (military look). ;)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 20, 2008, 09:36:18 AM
And here is avery great clone of trillium sessile.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Rob on April 20, 2008, 11:39:25 AM
The petals and sepals look almost the same colour on that trillium sessile clone, making it a very striking plant.

Attached is a photo of one of my trilliums with just a few streaks of maroon in the sepals

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Gerdk on April 20, 2008, 12:38:22 PM
Here are some new pics from today

1. Caltha polysepala
2. Fritillaria meleagris - a Herbert Sterz (Magdeburg) selection
3. Narcillus jonquilla - the late flowering ' pure ' species
4. Oxalis acetosella - rose coloured form
5. + 6. Viola albanica - my favourite of the pansy wild forms
7. Viola anagae - from the Anaga mountains, Tenerife
8. Viola orientalis
9. Viola spathulata
10. Hibbertia cuneifolia

Gerd
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 20, 2008, 12:46:35 PM
Rob, very fine spotted/mottled or speckled blooms. Much better then my green typ. Here you can see the big standard of the greens
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Rob on April 20, 2008, 03:14:54 PM
Hi Hagen

I've just been out and photographed the largest trillium in my garden. The flower is nearly 10cm

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 20, 2008, 03:52:40 PM
On the sunny side of the garden I find two Douglasia or should it be Androsace?
1. Douglasia laevigata
2. Douglasia nivalis
Hard to find the correct color in the sun. This is the best I could get.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2008, 05:36:42 PM
Lovely Trilliums, Guys!

Kenneth, here in the homeland of David Douglas....we prefer to think of these plants as Douglasias!! 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 20, 2008, 07:04:20 PM
Oh, Rob,
your trillium are great, too great for me? Or would you swap?? Cause your t.sessile are very fine mottled(spotted).
 :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 20, 2008, 07:55:18 PM
Some Gentiana and ...

Gentiana forms, Sanguinaria canadensis 'Multiplex' more  gentians, Fritillaria imperialis forms
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: tboland on April 20, 2008, 10:22:39 PM
Great collection of pictures!  I 'll have to wait a couple of months before I see mine open.  Is one of the gentians the cultivar 'Iceberg' ?  We have one at the Botanical garden that looks like the icy-blue one shown.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 20, 2008, 10:48:51 PM
A few more Trillium rivale to show variation in flower and colour
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2008, 10:57:01 PM
More super "babies" Michael ! That deep pink is luscious - I don't think we have any so deep in colour :(
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 20, 2008, 11:09:20 PM
More super "babies" Michael ! That deep pink is luscious.

Yes indeedy!! Wow!   :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Rob on April 20, 2008, 11:16:39 PM
Hi Hagen, Yes I'd swap a trillium

Michael, That first pink trillium rivale looks great

Here is a picture of a pulsatilla from my garden today.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 21, 2008, 12:35:25 AM
The deep raspberry-pink T. rivale is certainly luscious as you say Maggi but I also think the pure white second one is very beautiful.

But now, I've had an enlarged look at it and it's not pure white at all! but has pink veins. No less beautiful though.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 21, 2008, 08:39:36 AM
Michael,

That deep pink T. rivale is To Die For!!!!!  Absolute corker!!

Hans,

Love that yellow Frit imperialis.

And Rob and Haagen,

Your Trilliums are beautiful, but I particularly like those lovely markings!!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 21, 2008, 11:59:50 AM
I second that. I have never seen a rivale so pink! :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 21, 2008, 12:37:39 PM
Hans
Great gentians!

Michael
Outstanding trilliums! Especially dark T. rivale.

My spring:

Pink form of Erythronium caucasica
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842646.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842646/#mainImageLink

Fritillaria alburiana
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842647.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842647/#mainImageLink

Hepatica nobilis Alba (Hepatica transilvanica is behind)
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842649.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842649/#mainImageLink

Leucojum vernum
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842650.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842650/#mainImageLink

Merendera
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842651.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842651/#mainImageLink

Narcissus pseudonarcissus
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842652.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842652/#mainImageLink

Saxifraga "Kampa"
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842677.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842677/#mainImageLink

Saxifraga "Weldenboi"
(http://photofile.ru/photo/olga_bond/1356770/middle/76842678.jpg)
http://photofile.ru/users/olga_bond/1356770/76842678/#mainImageLink
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 21, 2008, 06:46:47 PM
Thanks for the comments on the trilliums, I have been trying to breed a good pink for 15 years and I think that I am getting there very very slowly.
Now for a pure white. !When is my pension due!?

cheers.

Michael
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: tboland on April 21, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
I've never had any luck with rivale...maybe I should try it in a pot.  That pink one is certainly a corker!

Beautiful Kabs....mine are just starting to show a little colour in the buds...maybe in a couple of weeks I'll have some open.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 21, 2008, 08:45:04 PM
Todd, Trillium rivale grows very well in pots, I have several hundred tubers in pots for years and some of them have not even been re -potted. You may have to shelter them for the winter in your climate.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 21, 2008, 09:21:19 PM
Dear Johannes Hoeller,

Gentiana verna alba?
Where do you put in in you garden? It seems they do it better in pots. When I put them in my garden they die very quickly, any tips for me?

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 22, 2008, 05:10:10 AM
All the above pics are beautiful but I specially like Olga's lovely butterfly. What kind is it Olga?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 22, 2008, 09:16:43 AM
Hi Henk,

I think we all have the same problems with Gentiana verna. But there are some clones which grow well and will stay alive for some years. I repot them very often (every year) and do not put them in the garden. They like acid soils although they grow in the Calceolus Alps. I only advice to grow seedlings or divide plants very often.

Yes, one Gentiana is a seedling from ang. Iceberg. But the true form does not jet flower and its colour is much more light blue.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 22, 2008, 12:58:29 PM
All the above pics are beautiful but I specially like Olga's lovely butterfly. What kind is it Olga?

The butterfly is a small tortoiseshell (Aglais urticae), which is declining in the UK, although still fairly common. It's larvae are nettle (Urtica spp.) feeders and the adults hibernate in sheds, garages and behind curtains (or perhaps in the wardrobe) in the spare room.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 22, 2008, 01:18:03 PM
Michael,

It looks like you've done a pretty good job with the pink breeding.  How dark a flower did you start out with?  The ones I have here are pale pink at the very most..... I think it would take a lot of generations to get as dark a pink as that from them.  I have what has flowered for the last couple of years as a pure white rivale.  I'll keep an eye on it again this year and if it remains pure white I'm more than happy to send you a piece if there is enough?  It isn't a lovely round form like so many of yours, but up until now at least it has exhibited no spots.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 22, 2008, 03:48:45 PM
Lesley

I am not good in butterflies. :) Think Anthony is right it’s Aglais urticae. It’s Russian common name is “nettler”.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 22, 2008, 07:53:51 PM
In Ron McBeath's garden today:  Primula maximowiczii; Trillium chloropetalum and Erythronium 'Johanna'  All looking beautiful.  He also had a double red Pulsatilla to die for, but I didn't like to keep taking pictures, so you can't view that one.  The colour of the primula is indescribable and the photo doesn't do it justice, but it will give you an idea of it.  Of course, he had none for sale... :(
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: olegKon on April 22, 2008, 09:08:26 PM
Dima - thanks for the anser about Gymnospermums
Here are some plants blooming now

caltha silvestris
 Jeffersonia dubia
 phisochlena
 Scilla bifolia alba
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 22, 2008, 09:39:56 PM
Thank you for the tips Johannes Hoeller.

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 23, 2008, 01:01:08 AM
All the above pics are beautiful but I specially like Olga's lovely butterfly. What kind is it Olga?

The butterfly is a small tortoiseshell (Aglais urticae), which is declining in the UK, although still fairly common. It's larvae are nettle (Urtica spp.) feeders and the adults hibernate in sheds, garages and behind curtains (or perhaps in the wardrobe) in the spare room.
I wish it lived here. It would be very welcome in my spare room or anywhere else.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 23, 2008, 01:03:40 AM
What a magnificent clump of Jeffersonia! 8) and the plant underneath it is special too. A lovely combo of flowers and foliage colour.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: tboland on April 23, 2008, 02:43:00 AM
That Primula maximowiczii is bizarre!  What an excellent colour!

My bulb season is just getting started (despite the fact its currently snowing!)..Puschkinia, Scilla bifolia 'Rosea' and Iris reticulata 'Harmony'

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 23, 2008, 06:54:04 AM
What a magnificent clump of Jeffersonia! 8) and the plant underneath it is special too. A lovely combo of flowers and foliage colour.
Exactly what I wanted to tell.
I've never heard of that Phisochlena, but I like it. :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 23, 2008, 07:15:47 AM
I've never heard of that Phisochlena, but I like it. :)

Kathrine, I think that the name is Physochlaina. Probably P. orientalis.
It belongs to the Solanaceae and comes from Caucasus-Regio.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 23, 2008, 08:57:07 AM
What is this  Tulipa please?
It is from Türkei-Anatolien-Teke Gecidi.

Thanks,  Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 23, 2008, 09:01:44 AM
Pics from yestrday in my garden.

Karl

 Fritillaria pallidiflora (3)
 Fritillaria pallidiflora (2)
 Townsendia condensata
 Tulipa armena ssp.lycica Anatolien
 Viola zoisii
 Viola zoisii (2)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Katherine J on April 23, 2008, 09:58:23 AM
Thank you, Luit. With this name the Google can find it. ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: gote on April 23, 2008, 10:49:54 AM
Rob,
Your picture caption says 'sessile' I assume you know that this is not Trillium sessile even if it is a sessile Trillium ;)
Göte
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 23, 2008, 12:42:20 PM
Dear Viola

What is the matter with Your Townsendia condensate ???

Is this a cristata form?

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 23, 2008, 01:45:26 PM
Yes Henk, it a cristata form.

Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 23, 2008, 07:08:43 PM
Last week at Utrecht Bot. Garden I saw one of the most spectacular plants ( for me)  in spring.
This place does surprise me every year again.
Here they are standing in water together with Taxodium distichum.
Here some pictures

Lysichiton americanus
Lysichiton ameicanus with camtschatcensis
Lysichiton camtschatcensis

And two other plants:

Dionysia aretioides
Nonea lutea 2x (without name in the Garden)
I hope it's ok.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 23, 2008, 09:26:06 PM
Oh my goodness! Those magnificent Lysichitons!!!

Is the Lopezia Solanaceae as well Luit? It looks as if it would be closely related to the super Physoclaina.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: tboland on April 23, 2008, 09:33:37 PM
Lesley, Lopezia is closely related to Pulmonaria...it's in the Borage family.  I've never seen one on this side of the pond, but look slike something I should look for! 

And as Lesley said, those Lysichitons are spectacular!  What a show!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 23, 2008, 09:42:41 PM
And it seems an easy seeder too, because there were many plants several meters around this place.
It is from Mexico. I've seen it some weeks ago at Zürich Bot Garden for the first time.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 23, 2008, 09:45:54 PM
Yesterday in my garden:

Anemone pavonina (pink)
Raised bed det.           
Armeria juniperifolia           
Salix flow._stone
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 23, 2008, 10:16:29 PM
Now doesn't that little Salix look full of the joys of Spring? Coming into the peak of condition and so bright.  8) I do like the smaller willows.... I was surprised to hear great praise being gi ven to Salix lanata the other day as a good plant for small gardens... Salix lanata is a plant that could cover a small country in a short time in my experience, never mind a small garden!  :-X :P
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 23, 2008, 10:35:36 PM
Last week at Utrecht Bot. Garden I saw one of the most spectacular plants ( for me)  in spring.
This place does surprise me every year again.
Here they are standing in water together with Taxodium distichum.
Here some pictures
Lysichiton americanus
Lysichiton ameicanus with camtschatcensis
Lysichiton camtschatcensis

Luit - Absolutely fantastic. Thanks so very much. Have you seen any hybrids appear?

I have some shots from southern Nova Scotia of our poor little homely & bashful skunk, Symplocarpus. I'll post them tomorrow morning.

johnw


Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 23, 2008, 11:12:55 PM
And it seems an easy seeder too, because there were many plants several meters around this place.
It is from Mexico. I've seen it some weeks ago at Zürich Bot Garden for the first time.

Are we talking about the Lysichiton or the Lopezia here? My little lysichitons are too small to flower yet, never mind seed :'(

That's a stunning little willow Luit. What a beautiful plant in flower and such a nice habit as well.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 24, 2008, 06:23:09 AM
And it seems an easy seeder too, because there were many plants several meters around this place.
It is from Mexico. I've seen it some weeks ago at Zürich Bot Garden for the first time.

Are we talking about the Lysichiton or the Lopezia here? My little lysichitons are too small to flower yet, never mind seed :'(

That's a stunning little willow Luit. What a beautiful plant in flower and such a nice habit as well.
Don't think Lysichiton comes from Mexico, Lesley.

I'm afraid that little willow, without cutting back, would take over my whole raised bed.
Got it as a present a few years ago as slowgrowing dwarf!
But keeping in shape it is yearround beautiful.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: olegKon on April 24, 2008, 06:36:20 AM
Thank you ,Luit, for correction. I have misspelt it. It certainly is Physochlaina. The plant was bought without the species name. But you seem to be right. It looks orientalis. Here is a close view of the same
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 24, 2008, 09:14:10 AM
That Lopezia looks an awful lot like a plant we got here as Nonea lutea (also in the Borage family) and the first plant I got set about a thousand seed and about 500 germinated the second year! Every year since then seedlings have been appearing though it only was allowed to flower two years running, about 4 years ago! We call it "yellow Patterson's curse"!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 24, 2008, 11:36:13 AM
In that case I think the "Garden Goblins" were at work in Zürich B.G.
Googled that most Lopezia are pink flowering.
As this one is yellow, it wil be Nonea lutea and this comes from Caucasus
You are deadright Fermi, thanks for your message here.
I was just reporting what I saw.


I'll try to change names right now.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 24, 2008, 01:07:44 PM
Todd -  Bodil Larsen, just a few miles from you, is growing one of them successfully . L. camtschatcense if I recall.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 24, 2008, 05:31:55 PM
Luit - Here are some shots from last year taken in Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia. Our native skunk cabbage, Symplocarpus foetidus, while not homely it is a bit sombre and can't quite compete with the showy Lysichitons.  You wull have to look hard for the flower in DSCN1016!

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 24, 2008, 06:08:08 PM
In the proximity of Vienna grow Iris pumila together with Muscari neglectum and Adonis vernalis.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Armin on April 24, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
Franz,
super pictures - as usual ;)
It is a great pleasure to see the Muscari meadow and the Adonis.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 24, 2008, 06:56:23 PM
Luit - Here are some shots from last year taken in Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia. Our native skunk cabbage, Symplocarpus foetidus, while not homely it is a bit sombre and can't quite compete with the showy Lysichitons.  You wull have to look hard for the flower in DSCN1016!

johnw

Thank you for these pictures, Johnw.
When I would have seen these at Utrecht, I would have been happy to take pictures of these too.
They seem to like the same circumstances.
I believe the flower is left behind the yellowish plant.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 24, 2008, 07:00:08 PM
Franz, beautiful pictures!
I should really go more often to Vienna.
Would you like to tell me by Pers. Mess. whereabouts you made these pictures?
Seems we are mostly at the wrong time there.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 24, 2008, 07:32:47 PM
Lovely photos, Franz. Look a bit like on the way to Bratislava, around Berg.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on April 24, 2008, 08:15:28 PM
Lovely pictures Franz, thank you for posting them.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 24, 2008, 08:43:33 PM
Wow Franz, How beautiful! Just fabulous.

Many thanks, Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Susan on April 24, 2008, 10:18:51 PM
Paddy, you've said it all.  Thank you so much  Franz, how stunning.

Susan
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 24, 2008, 10:32:17 PM
Here more pictures,

I went as L.van Delft to the Utrecht Botanical garden.

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 24, 2008, 10:35:37 PM
And it seems an easy seeder too, because there were many plants several meters around this place.
It is from Mexico. I've seen it some weeks ago at Zürich Bot Garden for the first time.

Are we talking about the Lysichiton or the Lopezia here? My little lysichitons are too small to flower yet, never mind seed :'(

That's a stunning little willow Luit. What a beautiful plant in flower and such a nice habit as well.
Don't think Lysichiton comes from Mexico, Lesley.

Of course you're right Luit, and I didn't really think the Lysochiton did come from Mexico, I was just being my usual pedantic self - forgive me - and thinking your first sentence was a comment about Tom's last line immediately above, and your next line was about the Lopezia. In other words, I should get a life, as someone will surely tell me. ;) 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 24, 2008, 10:46:04 PM
Thank you for more wonderful pictures, Franz and Henk and John.

Franz, the little town in the backgound is obviously not Vienna, can you tell me what it is please? or perhaps it's an outer suburb?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 24, 2008, 11:08:42 PM
I went as L.van Delft to the Utrecht Botanical garden.

May I have just a very small laugh (a kindly one) at Henk's expense? I'm sure Henk you mean you went, as Luit did, to the Utrecht Botanical Garden but I'm choosing to read your post as meaning that you went there impersonating Luit. You both took beautiful pictures.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 24, 2008, 11:18:19 PM
Thank you for more wonderful pictures, Franz and Henk and John.

Franz, the little town in the backgound is obviously not Vienna, can you tell me what it is please? or perhaps it's an outer suburb?

My wife (Ivi) thinks it might be Berg, a small town (and hill) we regularly pass on the main road from Vienna to Bratislava. I think so too but suspect there may be quite a few small towns and hills like that around Vienna (Ivi says no, there's not that many hills around Vienna - but there must be more than one!!!)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 25, 2008, 12:39:31 AM
The Lysichiton are amazing.  I have small plants of both but have never yet flowered them. Seeing them en masse like that is stunning.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 25, 2008, 06:51:41 AM
Dear Lesley,

Sorry about my English :-[

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Olga Bondareva on April 25, 2008, 07:26:06 AM
Saxifraga burseriana "Mangart"
(http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_45fcd220.jpg)
http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_fe7054b6.jpg

Saxifgara "Laka"
(http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_ad41b979.jpg)
http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_73310cb3.jpg

Saxifraga x akinfievii
(http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_32b4b958.jpg)
http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_1acd7aa0.jpg

Gentiana grandiflora
(http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_1b7adbbb.jpg)
http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_386bc4ce.jpg

Corydalis ambigua f. linearifolia
(http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_0a4fb4d5.jpg)
http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_95271059.jpg

Corydalis magadanensis
(http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/m_9f81e470.jpg)
http://cs1353.vkontakte.ru/u6450879/20107304/x_306671a3.jpg
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 25, 2008, 08:55:24 AM
Yesterday in the austrian mountens(Totes Gebirge)

Primula auricula
Helleborus niger


Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: mark smyth on April 25, 2008, 09:10:50 AM
Just been catching up with the Flowering Now forum. What an unbelievable collection of plants in the wild and the garden
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Brian Ellis on April 25, 2008, 09:29:54 AM
Just a few ordinary things from the garden.  I wanted to grow Caulophyllum thalictroides for it's dusky purple new shoots in the spring and thought it would look good with Trilliums...but I'm not sure I was successful so need to think again.  Here it is, and behind it Trillium chlorphytum giganteum.  Nearby are Primula Elizabeth Killelay and Erythronium Joanna.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 25, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
Brian,

That first one is rather interesting.  Not seen the name before, but I'm assuming it has leaves reminiscent of a Thalictrum?  That double gold-laced Primula is a showstopper!!  WOW!!!!  :o :o :o :o  I am very impressed.  8)

Viola,

I have some slightly confused Helleborus niger coming into flower here at the moment, in Autumn.  They're a variety I only purchased late last year called 'Jakob' (I think that is the spelling) which has lovely dark stems to offset the leaves and the white flowers.  It is I am assuming not flowering at it's normal time, but the two plants I have are both sending up flowers now.  nice to be reminded of how nice they are when seeing your pictures.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 25, 2008, 12:02:35 PM
Brian I agree total with Tyerman what a nice Primula.

My picture Primula Gold Lace

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 25, 2008, 12:04:57 PM
Quote
I believe the flower is left behind the yellowish plant.


Luit - The flower in 1016 is at the base of the plant in the front. The dark reddish brown sinister looking item.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 25, 2008, 12:54:10 PM
These plants are now flowering in my garden

The first picture is of a Paeonia, bought as P. mlokosewischii. But no Yellow flower as you see, so I do not know which Paeonia it is.

2e S. sempervivum
3e Tulipa batalini ' Bright Gem'
4e Tulipa batalini 'Bronze Charm'  
5e Tulipa 'Little Princess'  ???
6e Arisama ??? only 10cm high in flower
7e Dicentra cucullaria
8e Gentinana acaulis 'Frei" (correct me Luit if necessary)
9e close-up

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 25, 2008, 01:17:09 PM
Luit - The flower in 1016 is at the base of the plant in the front. The dark reddish brown sinister looking item.
johnw

Thanks, now I see it. I didn't know the flower is so dark.
In the other plant is also something like a flower, but greenish.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 25, 2008, 01:20:57 PM
Nice collection, Henk.

Quote
8e Gentinana acaulis 'Frei" (correct me Luit if necessary)
The name of Gentiana is Gentiana angustifolia Frei  (or 'Type Frei')
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 25, 2008, 04:56:12 PM
Luit - The flower in 1016 is at the base of the plant in the front. The dark reddish brown sinister looking item.
johnw

Thanks, now I see it. I didn't know the flower is so dark.
In the other plant is also something like a flower, but greenish.

Luit - I am looking but don't see anything flower-like. Puzzled. Can you quote the slide number and where exactly?

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 25, 2008, 06:20:05 PM
Luit - The flower in 1016 is at the base of the plant in the front. The dark reddish brown sinister looking item.
johnw

Thanks, now I see it. I didn't know the flower is so dark.
In the other plant is also something like a flower, but greenish.

Luit - I am looking but don't see anything flower-like. Puzzled. Can you quote the slide number and where exactly?

johnw

I still cannot see the flower! But I think I know what Luit is meaning... in the smaller clump of leaves, to the left of center, behind the main yellowish group in the forground, there is a green "arrangement" in the middle of the leaves which looks very like a small green zantedeschia flower!  It's in the same pic, John. ::)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 25, 2008, 07:13:53 PM
I still cannot see the flower! But I think I know what Luit is meaning... in the smaller clump of leaves, to the left of center, behind the main yellowish group in the forground, there is a green "arrangement" in the middle of the leaves which looks very like a small green zantedeschia flower!  It's in the same pic, John. ::)

Yes, that's what I saw first. Here is the pict. again and I marked both "flowers"
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 25, 2008, 08:48:48 PM
Primula Hyb foundling
\Primula marginata Hyb
Primula Hyb
Primula Hyb
Gentiana verna angulosa
Paraquilegia anemonoides.sorry for the bad pic
Dianthus Conway star
Lewisia nevadensis Hyb
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 25, 2008, 08:58:19 PM
Thank you all together for the kind comments on my pictures of Muscari and Adonis.
Martin, you are right. The small town is ‘Hundsheim ‘ near Hainburg. Not far away on the main road from Vienna to Bratislava. Its location is particularly attractive; south of the Danube and partly surrounded by rolling hills, natural landmarks of the region. 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 25, 2008, 09:07:37 PM
Thank you all together for the kind comments on my pictures of Muscari and Adonis.
Martin, you are right. The small town is ‘Hundsheim ‘ near Hainburg. Not far away on the main road from Vienna to Bratislava. Its location is particularly attractive; south of the Danube and partly surrounded by rolling hills, natural landmarks of the region. 


We thought it must be. For those forumists who don't know, Berg is the Slovak name for Hainburg. It is very pretty around there.

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 25, 2008, 09:11:50 PM
Michael, as always, lovely European primula hybrids. That foundling one is a really yummy almost edible sort of colouring - I'm getting hungry just loooking at it; looks like it's made out of cream and custard and meringue...a real confection. I like it. Seems very free-flowering too. I think I can see the influence of Linda Pope in quite a few of your seedlings.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 25, 2008, 09:24:34 PM
Beautiful flowers, Michael.

No doubt, we all have our particular way of describing flowers but Martin's method shows very clearly where his heart lies - a little lower than most and firmly in the centre of his tummy, "a really yummy almost edible sort of colouring...cream and custard and meringue - a real confection"

Oh, Martin, the sight of these beauties already make me so envious besides now making me feel hungry as well!!!

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 25, 2008, 09:32:35 PM
I have to admit the colouring of Michael's Primula foundling hybrid  did make me think of apricot pudding.....but to look at the flower more objectively, the reason I like it is that the flower head, while nice and full, seems to be on a fairly short, sturdy stem.... held close to the foliage.  So many full- headed primulas have floppy stems which spoil their looks.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 25, 2008, 10:49:33 PM
I still cannot see the flower! But I think I know what Luit is meaning... in the smaller clump of leaves, to the left of center, behind the main yellowish group in the forground, there is a green "arrangement" in the middle of the leaves which looks very like a small green zantedeschia flower!  It's in the same pic, John. ::)

Yes, that's what I saw first. Here is the pict. again and I marked both "flowers"

Ok Maggo and Luit - those are unfurling leaves, The flower of Symplocarpus is quite unlike Lysichiton and more resembles an Arisaema! It is the brown sinister item at the very base of the crown of the plant in the foreground (DSCN1016). It has a curved hood pointing to the right and the flower is almost touching the edge of the water. See Luit's lowest set of arrows, go to the arrow on the extreme right and drop down about 2 arrow heights.  The tip of the hood is touching a very small green basal leaf which in turn is touching an unopened brown flower.

Got you on this one!

johnw 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 25, 2008, 10:52:48 PM
Superb photos as always Michael.  A joy to behold.  That Dianthus looks so tiny and compact.  And that paraquilegia.  :o
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 25, 2008, 11:22:19 PM
Quote
See Luit's lowest set of arrows, go to the arrow on the extreme right and drop down about 2 arrow heights.

I know what you mean Johnw, but I learned from my grandson to use some Magix Design Programme, but it is for me not so magical, because after I put the arrows in I could not move them down and I gave up.
I'll stay a PC dummy then........... ::) ??? :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 26, 2008, 10:25:41 AM
The spring is coming very fast now. Everything seems to flower at the same time. Here are two example from yesterday. One from the bulb bed, Hyacinthella dalmatica 'Grandiflora' and one from the woodland, Soldanella montana.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Susan Band on April 26, 2008, 12:00:03 PM
No problem there with your Soldanella not flowering, Kenneth
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 26, 2008, 12:39:20 PM
I do like that Hyacinthella dalmatica 'Grandiflora'. 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 26, 2008, 01:06:58 PM
Has anyone got a idea what the name is of  (See page 20)  my paeonia  ???and my  Arisama ??? it is  only 10cm high.

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 26, 2008, 01:41:07 PM
Hank,

Do you have a photo of the leaves of the Arisaema?  Often the flower alone isn't enough.  is it always 10cm high?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 26, 2008, 03:29:03 PM
Quote
See Luit's lowest set of arrows, go to the arrow on the extreme right and drop down about 2 arrow heights.

I know what you mean Johnw, but I learned from my grandson to use some Magix Design Programme, but it is for me not so magical, because after I put the arrows in I could not move them down and I gave up.
I'll stay a PC dummy then........... ::) ??? :D

Luit - You did better with the arrows than I did, I couldn't even get them inserted next to to the flowers!

I need to get a photo editor for iPhoto. Any suggestions out there?

Guess only Maggi is the one still searching for the flower.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 26, 2008, 04:07:24 PM
Dear Tylerman

Here some additional pictures

Yes it is always 10-15 cm high

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: annew on April 26, 2008, 05:55:47 PM
Henk, your Paeonia might be a hybrid. I have several different species in my garden, and sometimes my P. mlok.. seedlings come pink.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 26, 2008, 06:35:59 PM
Many of the Paeonia mlokosevitschii that are sold are not true. They are actualy hybrides and if you sow seeds from those you get a mix of more or less yellow or pinkflowering plants. As it takes some time until the flowers come you never know the outcome. I have a couple of seedplants from the Botanical Garden of Gothenburg that are wild collected in south Kaukasia 1987 and they are sure to be yellow. But you can never be sure even with wild collected seeds as they hybridize also in nature.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ian mcenery on April 26, 2008, 06:43:14 PM
Kenneth is that Soldanella that shade of blue it is very striking

Here are a few from today in the garden

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 26, 2008, 07:05:42 PM
Well, it is a little hard to get it right with blue but I think my camera is not lying to much this time. The picture is taken in shadow and that is a little easier.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: annew on April 26, 2008, 08:33:39 PM
That Tulipa whittallii is lovely - how tall does it grow?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: hadacekf on April 26, 2008, 08:48:18 PM
Ian,
Did you know that the G. acaulis ‘Belvedere’ originates from the oldest Alpen Garden in Europe?  It is the Alpen Garden Belvedere in Vienna. Super pics and plants.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 26, 2008, 09:15:11 PM
A very late Hellebore.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 26, 2008, 09:19:44 PM
Here's what's flowering in an unlabelled pot of what I thought were scilla seedlings. ???
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 26, 2008, 10:39:51 PM
Ian,

I saw a plant of anemone obtusiloba for the first time in Harold McBride's garden, Lisburn, Northern Ireland, some years back and was bowled over by the colour, better than any gentian, I believe.  A fabulous plant!

The rest are also beautiful but the anemone brings back memories of such an enjoyable visit to Harold's garden, a real treasure.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 26, 2008, 11:19:05 PM
Henk,

For reference, my name is Paul.  The rest is my surname.  It's in the signature at the end of every posting I make.

I think your Arisaema looks to possibly be one of the more dwarf forms of triphyllum, although most have the spathe folding down further than that.  The leaves look about right for that, but there are a number of species that have trifoliate leaves.  Maybe with the extra photos someone with more Arisaema experience than I do can confirm the ID?

Anthony,

Is the white thing Leucojum tingitanum?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 27, 2008, 01:11:05 AM
Dear Lesley,

Sorry about my English :-[

Henk

Dear Henk,

Sorry about my teasing  ;)

Lesley
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 27, 2008, 01:28:05 AM
I'm getting hungry just loooking at it; looks like it's made out of cream and custard and meringue...a real confection.

I wish you hadn't said this Martin. It's just on lunchtime (Sunday) and I was planning to eat just a banana and a bunch of pinot noir grapes I bought at yesterday's market (the grapes NOT the banana). Now I'll be looking for something else.

Some of our fruit vendors from Central Otago also grow wine grapes. The grapes are marvellous. I bought some Shiraz as well, all little bunches of very black, small grapes and intensely sweet but with a little sharpness as well, much better than mere table grapes. If I were not so fond of pinot noir and shiraz out of bottles, I'd say the grapes were wasted on making wine from them. ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Magnar on April 27, 2008, 08:25:30 AM
Some pics from my garden the later 2 weeks. Snow is slowly disappearing and finllay I too have some flowering to show.

Adonis amurensis
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Adonis%20amurensis%20130408.jpg)

Iris hyrcana Talish
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Iris%20hyrcana%20Talish%20110408.jpg)

Bubocodium vernum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Bulbocodium%20vernum%2008.jpg)

Corydalis malkensis
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Corydalis%20malkensis%2008.jpg)

Crocus Prins Claus
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Crocus%20Prins%20Claus%2008.jpg)

Hepatica transsylvanica
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Hepatica%20transsylvanica%2008.jpg)

Coclhicum vernum
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Colchicum%20vernum%2008.jpg)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ian mcenery on April 27, 2008, 11:41:28 AM
Franz thanks for the information about its origins and also your kind comments. I have had the plant for a few years now and it always flowers much better than the other varieties I have. Although this year there aren't so many flowers probably due to the wet summer last year

Anne the tulip is supposed to be 8" but I have had this now for 2 years and  it is about 12" in my scree. It is increasing slowly

Paddy the anemone is a particularly good form which I was lucky enough to get the flower looks as though it has been dipped in Royal Blue ink and darkens with age

Kenneth I wish I could flower my Soldanella  :(

Magnar good to see you back
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 27, 2008, 07:01:00 PM
A black Helleborus and Asarum maximum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 27, 2008, 07:40:23 PM
Wonderful shots and plants everyone !
Nice to see Norway is coming from under the snow Magnar - I bet the stunning Adonis amurensis was quite happy too !

Here's some from my garden the last few days :

1) Dianthus 'Conwy Star' in a trough
2) Erigeron trifidus
3) Coronilla minima
4) Allium karataviense 'Ivory queen'
5) Hepatica nobilis foliage

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on April 27, 2008, 10:49:37 PM
Nothing exciting or rare....but it does do the heart especially good to see one's woody seedlings grow up---and now each year another of my hardy Magnolia progeny begin blooming (most of the M. kobus gang only take 5-7 years from seed). At the moment I have 5 small trees in bloom, and here is my most recent; with 72 blooms on a 5 foot plant (7 years old).

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Armin on April 27, 2008, 10:56:50 PM
What a selection of flower beautis 8)

Below is a Tillandsia in flower. My wife got it as a small present and is keeping them since several years behind a window in direct sun light. It gets one dauther plant after flower has gone over.
Can anybody kindly identify?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on April 27, 2008, 10:58:45 PM
Viola pedata (the bird's foot viola) is not native to my area, but it is one Viola that I would not be without...

Sometimes difficult to establish in gardens; it prefers it hot, dry and sparse.

Such a tiny, lovely plant with huge flowers on a small rosette of divided foliage.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 28, 2008, 12:33:31 AM
Hans - What a great dark hellebore! One of the best I've seen and it ranks up there with one I saw at Fred Hunt's which was the colour of coal.

Thanks for the posting.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on April 28, 2008, 12:48:08 AM
Luc,
I am assuming that Hepatica nobilis is a named cultivar--it is wonderful---wonder what would come of it from seed? Have you tried? I'd be happy to try for you, of course  :-*
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 28, 2008, 01:20:54 AM
I think it's a pity that more of us don't grow trees from seed and I wish I were at least 30 years younger. Even so, I still grow Sorbus, maples and others for the interest and possible variations. Your little M. kobus must give you great pleasure Kristl.

Magnar, welcome back to the Forum, but unfortunately I can't see your pictures, inviting names though they are. They each have the little red cross in a box and usually when I right click then click on Show Picture, they appear, but not here. The little red cross comes up again. Anyone know what the problem is?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 28, 2008, 01:32:45 AM
Oh Lesley,

But there are some who do grow trees from seed. I agree with you it is a marvellous way of getting the more unusual trees and shrubs and, what  many people don't realise, trees and shrubs grown from seed very quickly outpace those purchased from garden centres.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 28, 2008, 02:56:54 AM
That's certainly true Paddy, just as small purchased plants outgrow - and become much stronger than - tall trees such as the "Designer" types that are freely available here. They are bought for instant effect by rich and impatient people who forego the intense pleasure of watching young plants grow into healthy adults. More fool them. I know 3 or 4 very elderly people, in their 80s and 90s who still plant young trees knowing full well that others will get the eventual benefit but still thrilled to be a part of a renewal process on the earth's surface. I hope I too, am so far sighted in my old age.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: TC on April 28, 2008, 11:03:52 AM
Yes, sowing trees from seed is fun but what do you do with them when they germinate and grow ?  I have something like 42 Magnolia wilsonii/sieboldii seedlings with no place to put them.  I have managed to dispose of my quercus cocinnea plants to a Lady member of the SRGC -( I mean the word "Lady" in its titled sense )- who has a large estate and wood.  Very few people have gardens large enough to plant trees. 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 28, 2008, 11:36:04 AM
Quercus coccinea is not one I know Tom. I have a couple of seedlings of Q. coccifera which look like holly and do not grow large. Not sure how hardy they are, but they've survived two winters in pots.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Carlo on April 28, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
Armin,

It looks like Tillandsia ionantha--a beautiful little thing. I have over sixty tillandsia taxa here and grow several different forms of T. ionantha which is easy to find, inexpensive and easy to grow. Beautiful, isn't it?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 28, 2008, 01:55:07 PM
Anthony,

Quercus coccinea is the Scarlet Oak (sometimes called the Red Oak, but I think there are a few others under that common name as well).  Pretty big from memory, but lovely autumn colouration if I am thinking of the right one.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 28, 2008, 04:01:15 PM
Quercus coccinea is not one of the largest oak trees. Brilliant autumn colors in areas with a warm and dry summer climate. In our country it is not so frequent with that kind of weather in the autumn so we miss the color most of the time. It is often mixed up with Q palustris that is quite like scarlet oak but gets much bigger.
I like to sow trees and bushes. I have no estate but at least room enough for a couple of trees. I have sown and placed in the garden Gymnocladus dioicus, Magnolia wilsonii, Magnolia sieboldii, Koelreuteria paniculata, Gingko biloba, Liriodendron tulipifera, Davidia involucrata just to mention a few. All of them really quite easy. Sometimes you have to wait several years but it is worth it. My last Davidia seed to grow this spring is five years now! And the seedlings that you don't have the place for you can always give to a garden friend. No problems there!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 28, 2008, 04:07:59 PM
Yesterday in Brunnental - Austrian Mountains.

Snowline 1.500m
Primula clusiana
Primula clusiana
Calianthemum anemonoides
Caltha palustris
Pinguicula alpina
Gämse
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 28, 2008, 04:25:29 PM
Karl, you have good weather to enjoy the mountains... it seems the chamois ( Gämse) was enjoying the spring grass also.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on April 28, 2008, 05:51:37 PM
Karl, it would be fine to walk with you, but I have had to work in my garden at the weekend (preparing Cyps,...)
An interesting Gentiana acaulis and verna alba
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 28, 2008, 08:18:59 PM
Many of the Paeonia mlokosevitschii that are sold are not true. They are actualy hybrides and if you sow seeds from those you get a mix of more or less yellow or pinkflowering plants. As it takes some time until the flowers come you never know the outcome. I have a couple of seedplants from the Botanical Garden of Gothenburg that are wild collected in south Kaukasia 1987 and they are sure to be yellow. But you can never be sure even with wild collected seeds as they hybridize also in nature.

Thank you Kenneth for your comment, I think it must be a hybrid, a pity.
Have plants that have been collected in south Kaukasia flowered yet.

Henk

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 28, 2008, 08:28:11 PM
Dear Johannes.

Your white Gentians look wonderfull again.

Can we expect more?

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: John Forrest on April 28, 2008, 09:07:32 PM
Did a swap of Epimediums with Ian Mcenery and just show that it arrived safely and has already flowered. A lovely addition to the garden thanks.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 28, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
Yes, my P mlokosewitschii has flowered and I have sown seeds in a couple of generations, all yellow. Sorry but all my pictures has disappeared. Hope to get new soon. But you have to watch out. The flowering time is short!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on April 28, 2008, 09:28:29 PM
Thank you Kenneth for your comment, I think it must be a hybrid, a pity.
Henk

Your plant could be a hybrid, but may actually be a pink form of the true species.  There is a modern view that our concept of P mlokosewitschii as a yellow species may be based on historical selection.  Jim Archibald reports that wild colonies include plants with pink and yellow flowers, as well as pink flushed and apricot flushed "intergrades" - not hybrids, but just colour variants within the species. 
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 28, 2008, 09:49:32 PM
John,

Wonderful photograph and beautiful plant.
You caught it just perfectly.
Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on April 28, 2008, 10:26:34 PM
Maggi, yes the Gämse is hungry, it has a long Wintertime.

karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ian mcenery on April 28, 2008, 11:06:34 PM
John glad you like it yours is not far off flowering. Great photography by the way
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 29, 2008, 05:10:32 AM
I sowed what seemed to be seed a month ago, of my little South American beech, Nothofagus antarctica. This is the third autumn it has been with me and both previous years it has coloured a fine, even gold, very beautiful. This morning I noticed a slightly pinkish look and by this afternoon, it is well on the way to becoming scarlet!

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Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 29, 2008, 10:25:47 AM
Nice! And on the other side of the earth mine is getting new leaves in the most delicious green color. We share the joy of a very nice little tree!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 29, 2008, 12:57:29 PM
John,

Magnificent Epimedium pics!!  :D :D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 29, 2008, 05:31:12 PM
some ranunculus asiaticus in flower. I am pleased with the one with the golden centre instead of the usual black
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hans A. on April 29, 2008, 05:44:01 PM
 :o :o :o - Tony, just fantastic!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 29, 2008, 05:44:53 PM
a couple of unamed ranunculus. The first is interesting because it is a high alpine from Turkey which has finely divided foliage and a rootstock like asiaticus and is totally summer dormant. Other than that for interest if you found it in your garden you would probably weed it out .

The second is a robust wet growing one from Lake Abant in NW Turkey
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 29, 2008, 08:53:20 PM
A couple of pictures from today.
1. Armeria juniperifolia 'Bevan´s variety
2. Bellevalia hackelii
3. Berneuxia thibetica
4. Jeffersonia dubia
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 29, 2008, 08:58:07 PM
Hi Ken,  I think you mean't Bevan's variety?  Lovely photos!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 29, 2008, 09:02:12 PM
Dear Diane Clement

Thank you for your comment, if understand correctly it could a rare Paeonia mlokosevitschii ???

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 29, 2008, 09:07:52 PM
Thank you Chris! Corrected in the text.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 29, 2008, 10:07:53 PM
Some plants from my garden this week.
It's every year again amazing to see the sudden development of

Molopospermum peloponnesiacum   

On the shady site many plant start flowering now:

Anemone ranunculoides         
Cardamine waldsteiniana   
Lunaria rediviva 1             
Lunaria rediviva 2       
Symphytum tuberosum       
Uvularia flava   
Uvularia grandiflora
Stylophorum diphyllum
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 29, 2008, 10:08:25 PM
Love your Bellevalia Kenneth.

Yes, the Nothofagus is a beauty isn't it. Mine's just 2 metres high as yet but is delicate and lacy-looking, and has become a favourite tree. But then, my most favourite of all is the European Fagus sylvatica, followed by our own native Nothofagus species. Does yours grow upright as mine does. Finn Haugli says it grows as a low, mounded plant in Tromso, I assume because of the harsher climate.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 29, 2008, 10:11:08 PM
Molopospermum peloponnesiacum   

Whatever is this plant Luit? It looks very exciting 8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 29, 2008, 10:15:23 PM
and some shrubs and small trees are showing there flowers now

Halesia carolina 1     
Halesia carolina 2
Iris humilis   
Ajuga incisa Blue Enigma             

on several places is suddenly looking Lithophragma wich is always going to new places,
due to weeding when died off in summer.

Lithophragma parviflora         
Malus tschonoskii   
Cornus florida Sweetwater 
Pulmonaria saccharata Mrs. Moon 
Pulmonaria saccharata Lewis Palmer     
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 29, 2008, 10:27:03 PM
Saw the pic of the symphytum and it reminded me, today I took a cutting from a yellow leafed variety of symphytum.  Does anyone know what it might be?  Sorry I don't have a picture, it was on the plant of a friend, and the cutting I took has wilted big time, but I'm sure it will recover in time.  Very long sword shaped leaves, not variegated at all, just bright screaming yellow.  Stopped me in my tracks.  Any help much appreciated.   Cant find many reference photos of them in my books.  Nothing it Phillips & Rix that looks remotely like this one.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 29, 2008, 10:36:01 PM
Saw the pic of the symphytum and it reminded me, today I took a cutting from a yellow leafed variety of symphytum.  Does anyone know what it might be?  Sorry I don't have a picture, it was on the plant of a friend, and the cutting I took has wilted big time, but I'm sure it will recover in time.  Very long sword shaped leaves, not variegated at all, just bright screaming yellow.  Stopped me in my tracks.  Any help much appreciated.   Cant find many reference photos of them in my books.  Nothing it Phillips & Rix that looks remotely like this one.

Probably Symphytum Goldsmith.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 29, 2008, 10:39:38 PM
Molopospermum peloponnesiacum   

Whatever is this plant Luit? It looks very exciting 8)

Lesley,
it belongs to the Umbelliferae/Apiaceae. Between 1 and 1.50 m. high.
Dies off after flowering. I hope to make a picture when flowering.
I do have a picture but that is not such a good one.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: ChrisB on April 29, 2008, 10:40:00 PM
Thanks for the help, Luit, I just googled that one and it is variegated, not pure yellow, but then I did a bit more googling and think I've found it, S. 'All gold' only pics of it on French pages, but exactly what I have!  A very striking plant it is, just as thuggish as others, but pure screaming bright yellow foliage, no green anywhere!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 29, 2008, 11:00:10 PM
Sounds even better!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 29, 2008, 11:02:40 PM
Luit,
How coincidential,  my plant of Molopospermum peloponnesiacum is just at the same stage of development. It makes this sudden appearance out of nowhere it seems. However, there is no sign of flower on my Halesia caroliniana (grown from seed) and I have fallen for your cornus. What an amazingly rich colour. Must watch out for it.

Lesley,
I recommend the Molopospermum peloponnesiacum. It's an excellent foliage plant. The flower is not really in the same class though. As umbellifers go I prefer the flowers on cow parsley which will shortly clothe every roadside around here - reminds me of the story told of a group of Japanese botanists who had been invited to come visit and admire the great beauties of Kew Gardens and were most taken by the cow parsley which grew naturally in the woodland areas. I'll keep an eye for seed on my plant of Molopospermum peloponnesiacum though it has not set any great amount to date. I really have it in too dry a position so that if I don't keep watch it will wilt later in the summer.

Now, referring back to our comments on growing trees from seed, I am adding a photograph of some pines which I grew from seed to put on the boundary of the garden. Does this photograph age me or show how quickly some trees reward us when grown from seed?

Also attached is my favourite tree of the moment, Malus floribunda, and a few flowers in bloom at present.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 29, 2008, 11:03:23 PM
I sowed what seemed to be seed a month ago, of my little South American beech, Nothofagus antarctica. This is the third autumn it has been with me and both previous years it has coloured a fine, even gold, very beautiful. This morning I noticed a slightly pinkish look and by this afternoon, it is well on the way to becoming scarlet!

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Marvellous colour Leslie and one of my favourite trees.  I particularly love the scent of the new foliage. I have 4 trees in the south and should plant more as they love the wind.  

Have you ever tried N. pumilio or seen seeds offered?  I was given one by the Milde Arbotetum (where they have a great collection of N. spp.) but it sadly faded away before I could get it planted, possibly the roots were too warm in the pot.

I know of no other Nothofagus antarctica growing in eastern North America aside from ones in Nova Scotia and a a couple in eastern Newfoundland. The summer heat must kill them.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 29, 2008, 11:10:49 PM
Lesley,

I meant to comment on your nothofagus - a beautiful plant. Is this a very small tree? Nothofagus grow very well here but I have not been previously tempted to grow them in the garden. There are plenty growing nearby that I can admire and I don't find them attractive enough to put in my own garden. However, a small tree with such beautiful foliage would certainly be worth its space.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 29, 2008, 11:17:41 PM
So I have to look for a Malus floribunda from now on too.
It's really beautiful Paddy.

Nothofagus is a tree not much seen here. I once had it in a former garden and always
wanted it again. So last year I acquired a nice one of 3 m. in height.
It's just making leaves now.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 29, 2008, 11:23:19 PM
Mount Congreve Gardens, just ten minutes away, have an excellent selection of Nothofagus, many planted about 40 - 50 years ago and so show the trees in all their splendour.

Malus floribunda is surely one of the better small trees. The one photographed above is about 20 years old, never pruned, and absolutely covered in flower every year. No fruit of any significance though, just tiny yellow crabs.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 29, 2008, 11:36:49 PM
Here's a wee monocot from Trinidad that has luzula-like leaves and flowers the size of my pinky nail.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 30, 2008, 01:29:50 AM
To my shame, I've not noticed a scent in the new leaves of Nothofagus antarctica, me who's always telling everyone to sniff at everything. So I'll pay close attention in the spring when the new foliage comes. I've not tried any other species from seed and don't have any other in the garden except our own N. fusca, the red beech, another lovely tree. I think I've seen N. pumilio pictures somewhere, or maybe slides at a South American talk. It would be good to try it, and there's a very attractive Australian species which I photographed in April last year in Tasmania, in full gold leaf. I guess it grows to about 2-3 metres as I remember.

When I said I sowed what I think was seed, it was little tufts of flaky stuff like the cornflakes left at the bottom of the package when you've eaten all the decent ones and don't want to eat what's left because they'll turn to sludge when you put milk on them, instead of being crunchy. I just went out to see if there was any left but it's all gone now. Paddy I'll save some next year if you like. I should know by then if it's fertile or not.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 30, 2008, 02:57:53 AM
Leslie - I initially noticed the scent of N. Antarctica foliage when I was driving 2 large trees to my southern garden. There were jammed in so I had no choice, now that I recognize the scent I never fail to detect it when passing them by.

I saw the Nothofagus you mention in Tromso.. I am certain it is var. prostrata. That one made the rounds here about 20 years ago.  Having said that some N. Antarctica here sort of crawl on the ground before sending up a straight as a poker leader.

A friend in Newfoundland has one that comes out of the ground like a corkscrew. The shot shows the base, from here it ascends straight up despite fierce winds in the area.


johnw

Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 30, 2008, 06:04:18 AM
Good Lord, that really is a twisted fellow. I guess anything with the name antarctica has to be able to adapt to any weather conditions.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Kenneth K on April 30, 2008, 07:42:08 AM
My Nothofagus is growing upwards but it was strangly grown from the beginning when I bought it. So it is leaning a lot in the lower parts. It´s not easy to find in Sweden so I had to accept what I got. (On the other hand I managed to get a very good price!) I planted it in 2004 in peaty ground and it has been growing like mad the last two years. It is at least 4 m today. I took a picture yeasterday but I think it is hard to take photos of trees and bushes. It looks like this anyway.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: henkw on April 30, 2008, 07:44:08 AM
Luit, thank you for the lovely pictures,

Can You tell me More about your Cornus florida Sweetwater.

It is Queens day today in Holland, so something orange

Henk
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 30, 2008, 09:23:34 AM
Luit, thank you for the lovely pictures,
Can You tell me More about your Cornus florida Sweetwater.
It is Queens day today in Holland, so something orange
Henk

Henk, I wanted to try some Cornus which would grow with me in my "bulbsand" and while looking
around in Boskoop I found this one, but cannot tell anything about it untill now.

You'll have a free day today, well let's make an orange party then,
here some "Royal Tulips":

Tulipa DEG Willem van Oranje       
Tulipa Triumph Group Bright Irene H.v.Dr. '02   
Tulipa Darwin Hybr. Group Orange Queen
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 30, 2008, 09:32:37 AM
here are a few nothofagus in Chile,showing them a little windswept and contorted.This is mild to the state of others on more exposed areas but I did not photograph them
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 30, 2008, 09:48:29 AM
Best wishes to the Queen though here in Ireland there would be an antipathy towards the House of Orange since the days of William of Orange who was not a popular chap here. Good tulips though.

And speaking of twisted fellows, here is a photograph taken in Mount Usher, Co. Wicklow, Ireland last Saturday. At first glance I thought it was a Kniphofia caulescens but it seems to be a cordaline.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on April 30, 2008, 10:50:12 AM
Here some more from my garden:

Phlox subulata Daniel's Cushion 
Akebia quinata
Pulmonaria Opal     
Pulmonaria angustifolia   
Potentilla Goldrausch   
Anthyllis montana   
Aurinia saxatilis Flore Pleno     
Daphne Wilhelm Schacht         
Daphne Anton  Fähnrich   
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on April 30, 2008, 11:27:57 AM
Luit,

Oh those Daphnes!!!!!  :o  Beautiful.  I rather liked the Potentilla Goldrausch as well, and the Anthyllis montana is a completely new genus to me.  Looks rather intriguing so I must look it up at some point and find out more.

Paddy,

That is one very confused Cordyline.  Maybe it was thinking it was here in Australia so it was trying to grow the direction they would here.... so it ended up trying to grow down into the earth and made that unusual stem?  As good an excuse as any I guess!!  ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on April 30, 2008, 06:03:15 PM
A  few things in the sunshine we had on Monday.......
 a little  lonely, chewed Tulip

An Anemone ranunculoides.... he's lonely too, he's somehow got into a box of erythronium seedlings :-[

I have a couple of grafted Caragana arborescens pendula  "trees"... they are about 1.5m high at the graft and then the top growth expands above that into an umbrella shape. These plants are places in summer, where, like on a Laburnum tree, it is nearly always possible to collect DOZENS of snails.... :o
The foliage is very pretty as it emerges.....
I couldn't resist two shots of the Caragana leaves!

I am an avid rhododendron addict... here is the yummy, aromatic  blue foliage of R. impeditum and its fat buds.

 


Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 30, 2008, 09:48:52 PM
And speaking of twisted fellows, here is a photograph taken in Mount Usher, Co. Wicklow, Ireland last Saturday. At first glance I thought it was a Kniphofia caulescens but it seems to be a cordaline.
Paddy

It looks like our Cordyline australis but however did it get like that? I can't imagine any event that would cause the trunk (which is pithy, not like timber) to fall over and curl, or curl from babyhood since the trunk isn't evident until some years are on it anyway. Is it possible to find out anything about that specimen Paddy?

I meant to say that my supplier of the Nothofagus antarctica said "a small tree, to 4 metres" but I suspect it can grow MUCH taller than that, in the wild at least, and as Kenneth says above, 4 metres at least, and growing like mad. Mine has plenty of room and I'll be happy with whatever it does, I like it so much. Mine has grown from about 60cms in 2005 to around 2 metres now.

Tony, in the picture of the Chilean nothofagus, what is the white on the ground? Just stones or a carpet of some flower?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Tony Willis on April 30, 2008, 09:55:17 PM
Lesley a carpet of white composites which I think must have been introduced. It was a boat trip to see wildlife and glaciers and it was a lunch stop.I had a walk whilst the rest were eating half a grilled cow each. Middle of summer,it was cold !!
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Hans A. on April 30, 2008, 10:12:23 PM
Nothofaghus antarctica grown in cultivation will become higher than 4 meters - I have seen about 25 years old trees in germany of about 8m - and it said to grow as 25m high.
In Chile I doubt to have seen any which had more than two or three meters  - it is growing in higher altitudes sometimes together with N. pumilio or N. betuloides. It seems not to be competitive with the other native Nothofaghus species (N. dombeyi, N. obliqua, N. glauca, N. alpina) in lower altitudes or better soils.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on April 30, 2008, 10:32:28 PM
My Nothofagus is growing upwards but it was strangly grown from the beginning when I bought it. So it is leaning a lot in the lower parts. It´s not easy to find in Sweden so I had to accept what I got. (On the other hand I managed to get a very good price!) I planted it in 2004 in peaty ground and it has been growing like mad the last two years. It is at least 4 m today. I took a picture yeasterday but I think it is hard to take photos of trees and bushes. It looks like this anyway.

Kenneth - Yours is certainly a rapid grower. Growth here has been slow but steady.  They will all be quite fantastic when they are aged.

I see a typical wayward branch on yours. It's almost as if they produce these as a safeguard.

Hans - There must be huge ones in Chile.  Here is a picture from somewhere on the internet! And for Leslie some seed.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on April 30, 2008, 10:42:45 PM
Lesley,

I don't know the present gardener at Mount Usher but a friend does and so will get him to ask about it.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on April 30, 2008, 10:55:27 PM
I'll be interested to hear Paddy.

Thanks for the seed pic John. Yes, mine were like that. A bit of chaffy stuff as well I suppose. Time will tell whether they are fertile.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: johnw on May 01, 2008, 01:08:50 AM
re: Nothofagus

By the way, Kenneth et al, those wayward horizontal branches are quite readily layered.

johnw
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: rob krejzl on May 01, 2008, 02:26:23 AM
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those wayward horizontal branches are quite readily layered

That's why our local N. gunni is called tanglefoot! High alpine forms of this might be more suitable for smaller spaces, since they typically grow to only 2 metres or so.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 01, 2008, 11:23:13 AM
Now that  sounds like a more manageable species for my wee garden Rob. Do you have any pics?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on May 01, 2008, 04:02:29 PM
Two pics from Townsendia condensata "Cristata"

Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on May 01, 2008, 05:37:39 PM
Oh Karl,

The poor plant!

It has the appearance of being subjected to some dreadful form of radiation.

Not to my taste at all but then the world would be quite a boring place if everything was to my taste. Vive la difference!

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Viola on May 01, 2008, 06:11:21 PM
Paddy, I have shi when regular plant acquire, she it this grow.

Karl
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on May 01, 2008, 06:31:58 PM
Karl, do you mean that you have seen a regular plant begin to make this type of  cristate growth?
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on May 01, 2008, 08:32:37 PM
Is this a cristate form (genetic malformation therefore like this every year), or is it a form of fasciation that is just present this year?  Gerberas and primulas are very prone to fasciation but it does not necessarily recur each year.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 01, 2008, 11:16:02 PM
Nothofagus gunnii. That's the name I'd forgotten. Thanks Rob. See if I can find a pic.

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I should say that although on my camera, these two were taken by my friend Don Schofield. I bottled out of the last km of the tramp, terribly tired and already having fallen a couple of times. But it was a wonderful day which I wouldn't have missed for anything.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: rob krejzl on May 02, 2008, 12:48:23 AM
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Now that  sounds like a more manageable species for my wee garden Rob. Do you have any pics?

Anthony,

Don't grow the nothofagus myself, only Diselma archeri and Microcachrys tetragona (even smaller, but not southern beeches) so can't give you one of my pictures, but the link has a pretty good picture of the Tarn Shelf up at Mt Field. People go there in autumn especially to see the colour display.


http://www.sgaonline.org.au/plant_nothofagus.html
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on May 02, 2008, 01:13:25 AM
The above two pics were taken on the Tarn Shelf but last year at least it was all gold, no orange or red at all, mid April. The colours in the link Rob gave are glorious.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Armin on May 02, 2008, 10:06:09 PM
Armin,

It looks like Tillandsia ionantha--a beautiful little thing. I have over sixty tillandsia taxa here and grow several different forms of T. ionantha which is easy to find, inexpensive and easy to grow. Beautiful, isn't it?

Hi Carlo,
thank you very much for the identification of my Tillandsia :D
It is indeed very easy to grow and it is very beautiful.
"Man" can easily infected by Tillandsia fewer ;)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on May 02, 2008, 10:27:14 PM
Sanguinaria canadensis plena ,buds.
sanguinaria canadensis plena just opening.
sanguinaria canadensis plena, got it.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on May 02, 2008, 10:42:23 PM
Arisaema sikokianum My first to flower this year.
Trillium rivale. At the risk of boring you to tears here is another pink Trillium. Not as dark as the last one I posted.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on May 02, 2008, 10:46:34 PM
Michael,

Yeah, right, as if you're going to bore us with good pink Trillium rivale.  :o  Not likely!!  ;D

Another lovely flower! 8)

And the Sanguinaria canadensis plena is pretty special too.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on May 02, 2008, 10:54:46 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on May 03, 2008, 12:07:33 AM
At the risk of boring you to tears here is another pink Trillium. Not as dark as the last one I posted.

Too modest, Michael. It's lovely.  8)
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paddy Tobin on May 03, 2008, 12:39:49 AM
Michael,

To be modest with your plants would be to lie.

They are always beautiful. Forum members will not have had the pleasure of viewing your displays at the Dublin AGS show but these photographs certainly give them plenty of beauty to see. Missed this year's show myself. Thinking of becoming a recluse.

Paddy
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on May 03, 2008, 11:09:04 AM
Michael, another cracking batch of pictures. Just for the sake of us lesser mortals is there anything you grow badly!!? ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Paul T on May 03, 2008, 11:41:20 AM
David,

Yes, he grows dead things badly..... they keep coming back to life (which means they're no longer a dead thing, so he's failed).  Absolutely EVERYTHING else he grows well except for dead things.  :o ;D
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on May 03, 2008, 04:49:02 PM
Thanks for the kind comments folks,but I can't grow Ranunculus,in spite of all my best efforts. Two years is the best I have achieved so far,
they never appear the third year.
Title: Re: Flowers and foliage April 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on May 03, 2008, 10:06:08 PM
Ranunculus,
This is as far as I get, then the next year nothing. They do set seed though.
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