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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: David King on November 02, 2017, 02:58:36 PM
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We still have plenty of colour in the garden with the chrysanthemums looking really good this year.
1. Killerton Tangerine
2. Emperor of China
3. This is un-named but we think it is Contralto
4. Hillside Apricot
5. Dr Tom Parr
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Another chrysanthemum plus some more colour from around the garden.
1. Chrysanthemum Wendy Tench
2. Probably Cistus × purpureus Alan Fradd
3. Cirsium rivalare
4. Schizostylis
Here in Norfolk we are suffering from lack of rain. In October we only had 11.5mm to follow a relatively dry summer and autumn. The two meres (ponds) we look out on are nearly empty and lower than I have ever seen them, in 35 years, at this time of year
5. Brooke mere
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Finally one of my favourites in the garden and still going strong. Salvia 'Hot Lips'
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I do like Dr. Tom Carr, perfect colour and shape.
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Greetings from Turkey, Antalya..
Prospero autumnale
Crocus asumaniae
Sternbergia clusiana and its habitat
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Sorry, no alpine plants but some interesting trees and shrubs
at a nursery. Not quite cheap, but beautiful.
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Every year in this time gets my Gentiana clusii (?) over again some blossoms. Crazy... or?
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Every year in this time gets my Gentiana clusii (?) over again some blossoms. Crazy... or?
Wunderbar Thomas :)
Sometimes spring Gentiana are reflowering in the fall, but if it happens on a regular base you may just be lucky, in possession of a good clone - you could name it!
There are cultivars selected for this habit of reliable reflowering for other species.
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Greetings from Turkey, Antalya..
Prospero autumnale
Crocus asumaniae
Sternbergia clusiana and its habitat
ikizzeki,
I finally have had a chance to pick up this thread again. Thank you so much for sharing the photographs. The last photograph could have easily been taken in the Sierra Nevada foothills in California, U.S.A. The scene is so very similar! Are the trees oaks (Quercus)? Most of the low elevation woodland / savannah in the northern foothills surrounding the Sacramento Valley consists of oak (Quercus). Perhaps not surprising, the summers are very hot and dry and the winters cool and rainy.
Thanks for sharing. The photographs were fascinating to see. 8)
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Hello Robert,
The climate condition is not smilar (:)) THE Same, really. As if you were here as you explained ..
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Over here the snow melted and this week the temperatures are above freezing so I could have done some digging again, but next week it is going to be colder again. :(
Some pictures from last week end, Colchicums after the snow melted.
Shortia uniflora with nice autumn colour and the earliest Helleborus niger showing bud.
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Greetings from Turkey, Antalya..
Today, among the olive trees..I dont know ist name,so sorry
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Greetings from Turkey, Antalya..
Today, among the olive trees..I dont know ist name,so sorry
Biarum pyrami
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Thank you for both ;D
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Helleborus multifidus is starting soon to go dormant, beside it is Epimedium 'Frohnleiten'. A nice combination.
This small Helleborus niger is grown from Holubeck seeds from Italy three years ago, and it is already going to flower next spring. :)
It has very nice foliage.
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Helleborus multifidus is starting soon to go dormant, beside it is Epimedium 'Frohnleiten'. A nice combination.
This small Helleborus niger is grown from Holubeck seeds from Italy three years ago, and it is already going to flower next spring. :)
It has very nice foliage.
Leena, I think the combination of Helleborus with Epimediums is one of the best for the woodland garden, regardless of the species.
Very nice H. niger foliage indeed. I am also looking fwd to my first Helleborus x hybridus grown from seeds to flower next spring - very exciting!!! (seeds from a breeder, they had double purples with torquatus in parentage).
We had a record breaking night for the region -12C, with very little snow.
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We'd not had even a touch of frost until last night. The mercury plunged from 10c with hard rain to -3c overnight. A mad scramble till 3am to get pots into cold storage.
This morning we went across the harbour to Dartmouth to see a friend's extensive Cryptomeria & Acer palmatum collections, she grows 15 named Crypto varieties and a few from Japan still under codes or number. Of course it was Ken who spied a Disanthus in flower (photo 1); only when I was photographing it did I notice the "stapelioid" shape and markings, a complete surprise.
Philip McD arrived for a visit & talk this week, always bearing gifts - Philesia, Desfontainea, exotic Taiwanese ferns, Hydrangea aspera 'Purple Passion' from D. Hinkley and a sensational budded x Gordlinia (Gordonia x Franklinia - photos 2 & 3) boasting 12.5cm flowers (one with carry-on stress) when fully established.
Squeaked to a chilly 4c today.
john
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I did not know the flower of Disanthus cercidifolius !
Viola banksii in the greenhouse, stolons falling from a pot
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We'd not had even a touch of frost until last night. The mercury plunged from 10c with hard rain to -3c overnight. A mad scramble till 3am to get pots into cold storage.
Can you still buy mercury thermometers on that side of the water? They are no longer available here (new) unfortunately. My cheap alcohol greenhouse max/min has faded to a clear liquid and is invisible more or less. Guess I should buy a more expensive model. Another alcohol lab. model sticks and I can never get it to give a clean reading. Maybe after Brexit :-) who knows.
There are Gallium alloy metal versions but I have never seen one available.
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I never stop wondering that flowers still bloom at this time of year. Beautiful pictures, thank you for sharing
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It seems like forever since I have been able to do much meaningful work out in the garden. My old routine was to walk the garden in the morning and see what was going on. Construction has disrupted this routine and seems to just draw on and on.
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The greenhouse room is basically done. The longer the stucco takes to cure the stronger it will be, so I am in no hurry to get it painted. Inside and outside, the electric plugs and fixtures need to be installed. Easy-to-do, bit I guess I am in no hurry on this either. Balancing my time with the garden seems more important.
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I have no place to work with the plants now, so I just squat at what is left of the back porch and plant seeds etc.
It is a bit late, but I am getting things seeded out. Seeing progress and looking into the future is enjoyable.
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Autumn color on our only Hamamelis in our Sacramento garden.
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The deciduous azaleas frequently have beautiful autumn foliage, even here in Sacramento. This is an un-named seedling from a past breeding scheme. I am keeping the best plants to continue forward someday (hopefully soon). Already some good plants have come from this project.
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I grew this Lachenalia from seed. It was labeled as L. rubida, which seems more or less correct. Others are coming along. It will be nice having these plants blooming in the late autumn when little else is blooming.
In the back of the pot is a seedling of Eschscholzia caespitosa. I let Eschscholzia caespitosa and E. lobbii seed about in the garden and in pots (with other California native annuals). So beautiful!
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The Japanese Maples are looking good. Acer palmatum ‘Ornatum’.
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Acer palmatum ‘Shaina'
There are a few more seeds that want to be planted out and the leaves need to be raked and cleaned out of the garden beds. A good time to ponder quantum fluctuations.
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Robert - that Lachenalia is very nice. A few weeks ahead of mine.
Despite the recent frosts a few things are still blooming reasonably well here;
Salvia guaranitica 'Black and Bloom'..................
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4575/24612952508_2e43c2bb35_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DuXPh9)Salvia guaranitica 'Black and Bloom' (https://flic.kr/p/DuXPh9) by longk48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35724365@N05/), on Flickr
This Alstro hybrid has really surprised me................
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4574/37769519924_2751c1fedf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZxyEpo)Alstroemeria x hybrida (https://flic.kr/p/ZxyEpo) by longk48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35724365@N05/), on Flickr
Salvia 'Amistad'.................
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4568/24695657788_238bcc4e49_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DCgGFf)Salvia 'Amistad' (https://flic.kr/p/DCgGFf) by longk48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35724365@N05/), on Flickr
My pot of Canarina has a tuber that throws up darker green foliage and significantly smaller blooms................
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4583/38544886746_fa38193d3e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21J5BWS)Canarina canariensis (https://flic.kr/p/21J5BWS) by longk48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35724365@N05/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4558/38602051801_deb2ac1283_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21P8B8g)Canarina canariensis (https://flic.kr/p/21P8B8g) by longk48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35724365@N05/), on Flickr
The difference in the foliage..............
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The Canarina is huddled up by the house wall with a few other "exotics" - Brugmansia sanguinea, Canarina canariensis, Clivia miniata, Echeveria agavoides and E.pulvinata, Gibasis pellucida, Oncidium, Salvia gesneriiflora and an S.elegans baby and Tradescantia purpurea...................
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Here's the Oncidium noid which is still managing the odd bloom!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4557/38544888546_bfe0182337_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/21J5CtU)Oncidium noid (https://flic.kr/p/21J5CtU) by longk48 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/35724365@N05/), on Flickr
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meanie,
Your blooming plants are looking good. 8)
In our garden, Salvia semiatrata is in full bloom and looking great. I tried to get a photograph the other day but it did not turn out well. Too much overcast and gray skies. All the petals littering the ground around the plant looked even better, however the rain started and now it does not look as good.
Our Canarina canariensis are huge - and no flower this year, (yet). :'( I had to move them due to the construction. It must of been too shady for them. I didn't have too many choices at the time.
The last time I grew Lachenacia to flowering was in 1974. I'm glad to have a few around again.
No frost here or at the farm. At the farm I have never recorded a lack of frost this late in the season! :o Over 30 years of detailed weather records too. This not sign of frost. Plenty of fog in the Sacramento Valley. Oh, also it was 75 F, 23.9 C, yesterday at the farm. The record for the date is 76 F set in 2005.
Anyway, thanks for sharing the photographs.
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Robert;
Once again S.semiatatra is refusing to bloom for me. However, S.lasiantha and S.gesneriiflora have just started to produce flower buds.
Overnight frosts seem early this year but I cannot say that I keep a log. Worse still is the frequency that we've been having them.
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Helleborus niger from seed ex private garden at Gardasee/Italy
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Robert;
Once again S.semiatatra is refusing to bloom for me. However, S.lasiantha and S.gesneriiflora have just started to produce flower buds.
Overnight frosts seem early this year but I cannot say that I keep a log. Worse still is the frequency that we've been having them.
meanie,
I went out yesterday and took another photograph of Salvia semiatatra - it looks that good right now! :)
We are slowly working on remodeling our garden. Salvia gesneriiflora is part of the plan. It will bloom all winter in our Sacramento garden. It also gets huge in the garden - so..... do I plant it in the garden and pruning it hard every spring or do I grow it as a container plant? Things I need to work out. There are actually many smaller Salvias I want to work into the garden.
Salvia garanitica bloomed in late summer for us and then quit. :'( Generally they keep blooming for us well into the autumn.
I'll post the Salvia photograph soon, but now off to cooking in the kitchen.
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The days have been cloudy with above average temperatures in Sacramento, California. The mornings have been foggy. High temperatures have been running 69 F (20.5 C) to 63 F (17.2 C), with lows about 52 F (11.1 C). At about 3:30 p.m. the Dew Point has been 57 F (13.9 C) with a relative humidity of 70% to 80%.
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Salvia semiatrata has looked great this autumn with many flowers. The bed in which it grows has had compost spread over it several times this year and it has certainly payed off. 8)
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The spent petals on the ground have even looked good at times (not after a rain).
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Potentilla gracillis var. fastigiata is one of my favorite Potentilla species. Up at the Sierra foothill farm, they will often bloom three times each year. Not so in our Sacramento garden, at least yet! The foliage looks great.
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For better or worse, I trial various California native Carex species in our Sacramento garden. To date, Carex multicualis has been the best performer.
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The days have been cloudy with above average temperatures in Sacramento, California. The mornings have been foggy. High temperatures have been running 69 F (20.5 C) to 63 F (17.2 C), with lows about 52 F (11.1 C). At about 3:30 p.m. the Dew Point has been 57 F (13.9 C) with a relative humidity of 70% to 80%.
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Potentilla gracillis var. fastigiata is one of my favorite Potentilla species. Up at the Sierra foothill farm, they will often bloom three times each year. Not so in our Sacramento garden, at least yet! The foliage looks great.
The climate almost the same with Antalya Turkey..And with my sorrow,I always treated as a weed
for this plant ???
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Ikizzeki,
Thank you for sharing the information. The climate of Turkey seems like it is extremely variable as it is in California. The deserts in southeastern California are so different from the Redwood forests of northwestern California. We have many other climatic zones in between.
It poured rain last night with much snow in the Sierra Nevada! It is clearing now. Maybe more rain and stormy weather next weekend. I will be checking on some of my remote weather observation sites in the Sierra Nevada this week. Fun stuff, at least for me. 8)
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Some California native ferns in our Sacramento garden.
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Dryopteris arguta - This species is found growing in shady sites in the lower elevations of the Sierra Nevada Mountains. It is quite xeric, however I keep it irrigated. It looks great all year.
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Aspidotis californica - Another low elevation species. It goes semi-dormant during the summer and then starts into new growth as the weather cools in the autumn.
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Aspodotis densa - Another summer dormant species. It is just coming into new growth.
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Polystichum californicum - A mesic / hydric species. It burned a bit in our garden but it still looks good.
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Polystichum imbricans ssp. curtum - I had a number of spore grown plants to plant out. This one thrived and looks great in our garden.
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Now that the weather has cooled and the winter rains have started Polypodium calirhiza has started into new growth. This species needs to be kept completely dry during its summer dormant period. When I have a shady crevice that stays bone dry during the summer, I will plant it out. :)
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Hi Robert,
I dont want to insist but..Antalya has very variable altitudes so depends on it climate can be vary too..
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Aspidotis are so amazing what's their hardiness?
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Aspidotis are so amazing what's their hardiness?
I'm sure I know someone who grows these in the UK - so quite hardy, I believe - it may have been the late John Finch, in Kent who had it in his collection.
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The Polystichums are great too, in our climate with long winters anything with evergreen foliage is very much appreciated.
It seems I am posting here only during temperature records - today at noon in Waterloo: 14C ! ::) Of course it won't last but many plants are confused about what's happening.
During the last record of low -14C with no snow, even the Epimediums got the foliage burned. Today I had a look at few evergreen perennials doing OK (except the Helleborus, Hepaticas and Polystichum)
To my surprise Symphyandra wanneri still looks brilliant (grown from AGS seedex as Campanula alpina - take notice)
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Androsace sarmentosa (A. villosa as well doesn't care much about the highs and lows)
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Another surprise was Ipomopsis rubra foliage (first year rosette) - again, no snow cover yet, and besides the -14C, there were other nights with -7/ -9C
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Paxistima canbyi wasn't shown here much I think; flowers are totally insignificant but good foliage plant.
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And surely the Semps and Sedums are nice year round, here the Sempervivum 'Oddity'.
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The heavy mulch seen in some pictures prevents the frost heaving, which can be very damaging especially for newly planted.
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Aspidotis are so amazing what's their hardiness?
Yann,
Depending on the original source, Aspidotis densa is most likely very cold hardy. This species grows over a broad altitude range within California. I see it frequently at high elevations in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. In addition, it can be found growing as far east as Wyoming and Montana, as well as in parts of southwestern Canada, regions with very cold winters.
Aspidotis californica has a much more restricted range within California and Baja California. My guess would be that it has some cold tolerance, but exactly how much I do not know. Part of my research is to obtain data that will allow me to make quantified, objective answers to questions like yours. I have a number of remote weather observation sites within the Crystal Range and Crystal Basin where I measure temperature, relative humidity, snow cover, and other data. These are all factors that are relevant to the “plant hardiness” equation. Without objective quantifiable data we are all making subjective guesses. I regret that I do not have more detailed information on the cold hardiness of Aspidotis californica at this time, but thank you for asking. 8)
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Hi Robert,
I dont want to insist but..Antalya has very variable altitudes so depends on it climate can be vary too..
Ikizzeki,
Thank you for sharing this information. I look forward to learning much more about your region within Turkey, the plants you grow in your garden and the native species found in the surrounding habitats.
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The Polystichums are great too, in our climate with long winters anything with evergreen foliage is very much appreciated.
Polystichums are also my favourites, though many of them had suffered here during the past two cold winters with only a little snow cover.
Wow Gabriela, your temperatures are sure fluctuating. Here it has been steady close to zero or couple of degrees above it.
Evergreen plants are so nice this time of year before the snow comes!
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Leena,
Do you grow any California Polystichum species in your garden? or are they too tender to the cold? or maybe not available to try?
More plants from our Sacramento, California garden.
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Asarum europaeum has been very easy to cultivate in our Sacramento garden. It spreads slowly and the evergreen foliage always looks nice.
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Asarum splendens has interesting foliage. The original colony at the farm is about a meter long and 0.3 meters wide after about 25 years. I’ll try to keep this colony a bit smaller.
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Asarum lemmonii is a species that is endemic to California. This species is found growing at mid-elevations in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, as well as the southern end of the Cascade Range, in Butte County, California. It is a mesic / hydric species generally found in moist, shady areas. This plant(s) (a number of seedlings) has been cultivated in our Placerville, California garden (the farm) for decades and is extremely easy-to-please. It originated from Dead Horse Spring near the summit of Robb’s Saddle, El Dorado County (within the Crystal Basin). The spring is situated along an ancient fault line between the Shoo Fly Formation (metamorphic rock) and a granodiorite pluton. I almost always find this species growing on metamorphic or igneous rock. Another good location to find this species is on Mehrten Formation andesite on Peavine Ridge, where there are several boggy areas on the northern slope of Peavine Ridge along Windmiller’s Ravine. The current plant pictured is growing in our Sacramento garden.
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This Potentilla species came from Pauline Croxton of Hortica Gardens, Placerville, California, about 40 years ago. I still have not looked up the species name, but I have it established in several location is our Sacramento garden. It very slowly creeps around and makes a nice tight mat. The flowers are, of coarse, yellow
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Leena, Do you grow any California Polystichum species in your garden? or are they too tender to the cold? or maybe not available to try?
Hi Robert, I have several Polystichum aculeatum which has survived even the past two hard winters. Before I had P.braunii and P.makinoi, but they died two years ago after surviving couple of very snowy winters. I'm going to try them again if I find them again to buy. The only other Polystichum I have seen here is P.setiferum, ferns are not easy to find to buy. There is an Estonian grower who sometimes sells his ferns also in Finland, and I have bought mine from him. I haven't yet tried to grow them from spores, but that could be an option for more rare ferns.
Asarum europaeum does well here, it is very nice evergreen. A.canadense does also well, though it is not evergreen. Your A. splendens looks really nice, it has more interesting leaves. I have one plant of A.hartwegii, grown from seeds, and it has lived through the past winters outside, so it is hardy enough to grow here, though it hasn't spread.
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Leena,
In the wild, Asarum hartwegii generally does not spread around much, however some forms have very attractive and interesting foliage. I am fascinated to hear that it is hardy in your garden. Here in California, they are not a high elevation species, so to learn that, at least the form you grow, they are hardy is good news. The species did find its way through the last Ice Age, so maybe I should not be surprised, but then again, so many California species have the reputation of being somewhat tender. Your information concerning Asarum hartwegii is a "gem" of information. I will look into it more. 8)