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Title: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on July 09, 2017, 12:25:32 PM
In the last flowering season I jokingly remarked about the 'forest of leaves' in my Elizabeth Harrison pot and said, it will be bursting out of the pot next!

This morning I knocked it out and potted it up to find 22 bulbs and offsets! Sure enough the pot was bulging and out of shape.

Received as a single bulb from Ian Christie in 2015, wonderful progress.

Testimony to great quality bulbs!
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on July 09, 2017, 12:30:04 PM
Holy Moly! I've always said that finding a swollen pot full of healthy bulbs is one of the greatest satisfactions of bulb growing!  Your success there  with 'Elizabeth Harrison' is  pretty  fantastic, Ingrid-  "she" must really be enjoying life down there. Doing better than mine and I'm pretty pleased with how mine are doing. 

Are you using your standard "yellow" mix on her?
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on July 09, 2017, 12:53:57 PM
Are you using your standard "yellow" mix on her?

Hi Maggs, yes the usual light yellow mix is delivering well.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on July 09, 2017, 01:11:15 PM
That's 40% JI ericaceous with 20% composted bark with 15% horti grit, 15% Cornish grit and 10% perlite, I think?  You feed a little too?
Perhaps I need to treat mine to some fish and chips!
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on July 09, 2017, 01:24:26 PM
That's 40% JI ericaceous with 20% composted bark with 15% horti grit, 15% Cornish grit and 10% perlite, I think?  You feed a little too?
Perhaps I need to treat mine to some fish and chips!

Spot on Maggs! I would eat the fish and chips though!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Blonde Ingrid on July 09, 2017, 04:03:03 PM
It has been a bonkers day! Just when I was mulling over the Elizabeth Harrison bulb explosion, I moved on to Philippe Andre Meyer.

The new record for me stands at 32 bulbs and offsets in a single orchid pot from a single bulb in 2015!  Orchid pots also delivering!
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on July 09, 2017, 08:03:09 PM
.... would have commented earlier - but I fainted!  Are you sure you're not feeding them fish and chips?
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: annew on July 09, 2017, 08:29:15 PM
Rocket fuel, my guess.. :o
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on July 10, 2017, 12:35:27 PM
Good to know that gems are available for Australian galanthophiles - we have heard elsewhere in the forum about the good bulbs available from this seller...

''A beautiful large flowered 'Tonkin' seedling Galanthus with great green outer markings''
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www.tonkinsbulb.com.au (http://www.tonkinsbulb.com.au)
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: annew on July 10, 2017, 05:53:28 PM
Stonkin'!
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Leena on July 17, 2017, 06:13:18 AM
That's 40% JI ericaceous with 20% composted bark with 15% horti grit, 15% Cornish grit and 10% perlite, I think?  You feed a little too?

I have to remember this mix, it seems to give wonderful results. :)

Here many snowdrops came up late last spring, but they seem to grow longer in the summer.
These two pictures were taken yesterday, in the first there is 'Gerard Parker' , and in the second the yellow leaves going dormant belong to 'Wendy's Gold' and 'Spindlestone Surprise', they both came up in April when I was already worried that I had lost them, but it was just a result of last winter. Both flowered fine. Between them is 'Lutescens' which has already gone dormant earlier in late June, as did most of other nivalis, too, but also they grew later than usually.
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on July 17, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
For those interested in snowdrops and wondering about sources for  bulbs of the well-known "older" names in particular, might I suggest  Potterton's  galanthus list?  Not a nursery much mentioned for snowdrops but a good place to buy for all sorts of plants and bulbs...
http://www.pottertons.co.uk/pott/browse.php?folder=215 (http://www.pottertons.co.uk/pott/browse.php?folder=215)
 Some reliable varieties there to get you started and at  modest enough prices!
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Alan_b on July 17, 2017, 12:02:26 PM
For ... sources for  bulbs of the well-known "older" names in particular, might I suggest  Potterton's  galanthus list? 

I looked at the list and there is a mixture of the old and the new there.  But a spelling mistake in the first name on the list doesn't build confidence in Potterton's snowdrop expertise.   
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Alan_b on July 17, 2017, 12:11:44 PM
Here many snowdrops came up late last spring, but they seem to grow longer in the summer.
These two pictures were taken yesterday...

It seems incredible to see snowdrop leaves midway through July.  Yet on my trip to Georgia in mid-March the krasnovii and (most) platyphyllus species snowdrops were still under deep snow.  It might be interesting to try these in your garden, Leena, although unfortunately they are difficult to get hold of.
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on July 17, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
I looked at the list and there is a mixture of the old and the new there.  But a spelling mistake in the first name on the list doesn't build confidence in Potterton's snowdrop expertise.   
  Alan, it's a typo!  These very pages are full of them - some from the most respected growers around. Potterton's have been in business - and very well respected - for over forty years - new comers to snowdrops - or any other plants, need have no fears.
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Leena on July 17, 2017, 01:29:13 PM
It seems incredible to see snowdrop leaves midway through July.  Yet on my trip to Georgia in mid-March the krasnovii and (most) platyphyllus species snowdrops were still under deep snow.  It might be interesting to try these in your garden, Leena, although unfortunately they are difficult to get hold of.

This year is so different from previous years, all plants are later than usually when snowdrops go dormant here in June. Those species are interesting, but as you wrote, difficult to get hold of.
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Alan_b on July 18, 2017, 08:44:42 AM
The Reverend Richard Blakeway-Phillips was a keen plantsman and an early-adopter of the modern craze for snowdrops.  He originated quite a few, one of which was 'Abington Green'.  The Abingtons, Great and Little, lie a few miles south of Cambridge, just off the road to Haverhill.  Richard Blakeway-Phillips lived and worked as a curate in Little Abington for some years.  The Abingtons are in my locale and 'Abington Green' is quite frequently misspelled 'Abingdon Green' so any misspelling is like a red rag to a bull to me.

I never knowingly met Richard Blakeway-Phillips and when he died in October 2012 his death seemed to have passed unremarked here on the Forum.  None of the books on snowdrops I checked give biographical information on him and it seems I have to pay £2.50 in order to read his Times obituary.  What remains online is an article written by Anna Pavord in February 2012: http://www.independent.co.uk/property/gardening/snow-white-its-high-time-you-succumbed-to-snowdrop-fever-6668092.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/property/gardening/snow-white-its-high-time-you-succumbed-to-snowdrop-fever-6668092.html)       
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Brian Ellis on July 18, 2017, 06:43:08 PM
The hyphenated surname originates with the marriage of Robert Phillips and Mary Blakeway in Pontesbury, Shropshire in 1842.  They were his great grandparents and subsequent generations used Blakeway as a middle name to begin with.  Revd Richard John Blakeway-Phillips was born in September 1919 in Atcham, Shropshire.  Ledbury was his first curacy and it was when he was curate at Cirencester, Gloucestershire that he married Rachel Cutter ithere n 1950 moving to Aylburton to be Priest in Charge and curate of Lydney. Sadly his first wife died in 1953 and he remarried in 1956 his wife being Eleanor Shacklock who was the mother of Clare, Mathew and Celia. He also introduced Iris unguicularis 'Abington Purple' in 1993.
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on July 18, 2017, 07:17:58 PM
The Reverend Richard Blakeway-Phillips was a keen plantsman and an early-adopter of the modern craze for snowdrops.  He originated quite a few, one of which was 'Abington Green'.  The Abingtons, Great and Little, lie a few miles south of Cambridge, just off the road to Haverhill.  Richard Blakeway-Phillips lived and worked as a curate in Little Abington for some years.  The Abingtons are in my locale and 'Abington Green' is quite frequently misspelled 'Abingdon Green' so any misspelling is like a red rag to a bull to me.

I never knowingly met Richard Blakeway-Phillips and when he died in October 2012 his death seemed to have passed unremarked here on the Forum.  None of the books on snowdrops I checked give biographical information on him and it seems I have to pay £2.50 in order to read his Times obituary.  What remains online is an article written by Anna Pavord in February 2012: http://www.independent.co.uk/property/gardening/snow-white-its-high-time-you-succumbed-to-snowdrop-fever-6668092.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/property/gardening/snow-white-its-high-time-you-succumbed-to-snowdrop-fever-6668092.html)       
As Anna says, he was a regular at RHS Westminster Shows. I probably bought some from him then. Pity the shows are a pale shadow of what they once were.
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Alan_b on July 18, 2017, 11:28:25 PM
Thank you both for your information and comments on Rev. Blakeway-Phillips.  I remain surprised that his death seems to have passed us by unnoticed or unremarked upon at the time.
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Leena on July 19, 2017, 06:54:50 AM
It seems incredible to see snowdrop leaves midway through July.

I looked in my notebook, and I had written, that 'Wendy's Gold' and 'Spindlestone Surprise' came up March 28th. The same plants were in the picture in previous page and are now going dormant. They didn't have seed pods. 'Gerard Parker' came up some days earlier in March, and it is now slower going dormant, but it has seed pods. The growing time was about three months and two-three weeks, but we had quite cold spring and early summer this year. How long these snowdrops are growing in the UK where they start earlier?
Title: Re: Galanthus July 2017
Post by: Alan_b on July 19, 2017, 07:52:21 AM
In my part of the world most of the snowdrops last until May, some go at the start of May and some last until the end; a small minority might just make it into June.  The majority start to appear in January and flower in February.  So I guess the average time above ground is about 4 months.  I don't believe the ones that appear and flower later keep going any longer so it might be as little as 3 months.  And the autumn-flowering ones don't seem to derive any benefit from their earlier appearance.       
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