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Title: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:08:35 PM
Just got back from Cleveland show (via overnight stay at brother in laws in Sheffield). The journey north on Saturday morning was not for the faint hearted - snow, hail and wind fell over the A1 for much of the journey.  Those of us who finally made it were a little jealous of those who decided to turn over in bed for another couple of hours.  Those arriving from the west had it even worse as roads across the Pennines were closed or heaped up with snowdrifts.  For those reading this in Scandinavia and Canada, I expect you would regard it as quite a mild day but to us softies not used to these conditions, it was at times unpleasant.  The show had less exhibitors and visitors than usual but even so, an excellent event and an above-average jolly pub lunch. 

I'll start the ball rolling with a few pix and hope that others will chip in. 

Local lad Don Peace had an excellent day, winnning the Farrer medal with an excellent pot of Androsace muscoidea and also an AGS medal for the small 6 pan class
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:11:23 PM
Part of the six pan:
Androsace baltistanica
Primula Miniera
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:13:04 PM
Corydalis solida in various forms looked good, the reds standing out

Corydalis Beth Evans
Corydalis solida Penza selection
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:16:18 PM
Primulas were also in excellent form

Primula allionii
Primula allionii Mrs Dyas
Primula Chivalry
Primula Broadwell Milkmaid
Primula marginata white

Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:19:25 PM
A couple of superb American androsaces or douglasias if you prefer
 
Androsace laevigatus x idahoensis (also shown by Don Peace)
Androsace ochotensis shown by Lionel Clarkson and winning a trophy for the best plant from North America
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:22:21 PM
Narcissus next

N cordubensis
N fernandesii plus close up
N cyclamineus plus close up
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 23, 2008, 10:24:37 PM
Yes,  more "bother" for the poor grower, to determine what to call his plants... we had a moan about this at Dunblane.... David Millward had a lovely pan of Androsace/Douglasia/who knows!... Very attractive plants, by any name and these from Cleveland are super.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 23, 2008, 10:25:57 PM
great pot of Narcissus cyclamineus....... don't they look surprised?!
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:27:14 PM
Some frits

Fritillaria bucharica in superb condition shown by Ian Kidman
Fritillaria alburyana shown by Geoff Rollinson (see the flower at the front left is fasciated)

Fritillaria unknown (mine) much admired this week and last, awarded a PC by Joint Rock Committee but no one can yet name it.  I have been assured that the name on the label (F acmopetala wendelboi) is not correct, but no one can come up with an alternative yet.  Any ideas from out there gratefully received.  
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:29:39 PM
Assorted extras

Sebaea thomasii
Pinus mugo Minikin
Lathyrus vernus
Minigarden




Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:32:10 PM
Pulsatilla vernalis plus close up

Robert Rolfe and John Richards
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:33:43 PM
Draba ossetica and
Saxifraga Coolock Gem both shown by Robert Rolfe
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:36:41 PM
Trillium nivale (shown by Alan Spenceley)
Draba longisiliqua
3 pan bulb (Pseudomuscari chalusicum, Ipheion Alberto Castillo and Fritillaria gibbosa)
Crocus vernus
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:40:29 PM
Pseudomuscari azureum - another genus keeping the taxonomists busy, some jumping in and out of Muscari/Pseudomuscari/Bellevalia/Leopoldia - don't rewrite your labels yet  ::)  ::) 
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 23, 2008, 10:43:02 PM
A fun one for the Orchid buffs
Cymbideum goeringii


and a well earned rest for a judge (and also for this forumist, that's it folks, until the next show). 
Brian Halliwell in the land of Nod.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on March 23, 2008, 10:59:28 PM
Thank you Diane. Beautiful pictures!
Worth staying up so late (midnight here) and look at your pictures.  :D :D
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Rob on March 23, 2008, 11:17:19 PM
Thanks for the show report. It's great seeing all the pictures.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: ian mcenery on March 24, 2008, 12:40:37 AM
Diane as one of those who rolled over and went back to sleep thanks.

How did the Colchicum do?
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 24, 2008, 03:30:38 AM
Wonderful pictures Diane. What a show it must have been! I love your frit, whatever it turns out to be, and the others too of course. And Oh those Corydalis :P

Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 24, 2008, 07:39:11 AM
Diane as one of those who rolled over and went back to sleep thanks.  How did the Colchicum do?

The colchicum had its moment of glory at Blackpool where it got an Award of Merit from Joint Rock
(see Mick McLoughlin's posting http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1521.20 )

Sadly, by Cleveland, it was going decidedly papery so it didn't make it.  I'm now desperately trying to keep as much of it as possible going for next year.  It does like quite a lot of water from now to form its leaves but it has a nasty habit of rotting at the base of the leaves and I nearly always lose some of the corms so the potful hasn't really increased for the last 3 years. 

Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Martinr on March 24, 2008, 09:18:57 AM
Some pictures of plants not posted by Diane (and one or two repeats because they deserve it). In this first batch we have Saxifraga Lismore Carmine, Primula allionii, Primula x pubescenes, Corydalis solida Beth Evans and Iris Graberiana.

Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Martinr on March 24, 2008, 09:21:08 AM
Well, I made a right mess of that didn't I. Let's try again

Some pictures of plants not posted by Diane (and one or two repeats because they deserve it). In this first batch we have Saxifraga Lismore Carmine, Primula allionii, Primula x pubescenes, Corydalis solida Beth Evans and Iris Graberiana.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Martinr on March 24, 2008, 09:27:03 AM
Some more (the spelling mistake in the last posting has nothing to do with the editorial cock up competition in the Rock Garden)

Fritillaria sewerzowii, Melicytus alpina, Viola jooii, Corydalis schanginii (I think), Narcissus triandus albus
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Martinr on March 24, 2008, 09:31:58 AM
And some more.

Primula Lismore Sunshine, Anacamptis longicornu, Trillium rivale, Iris zaprjagajewii, Asarum campaniforme and another Trillium rivale
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Martinr on March 24, 2008, 09:36:06 AM
And finally...Pieris japonica Prelude, Narcissus yepesii, Primula Netta Dennis, Cymbidium goeringii, CAPTION COMPETITION 1 and CAPTION COMPETITION 2.

I think they were probably saying rude things about the photographer!

Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Brian Ellis on March 24, 2008, 09:56:54 AM
Thanks to you both for this outing to the show, wonderful plants and a ver nice frit. Diane, well done.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Ian Y on March 24, 2008, 10:03:54 AM
Thank you Martin and Diane for the wonderful pictures from Cleveland - it is almost as good as being there.
The time taken by formists to post pictures from the shows is a very valuable resource for plant lovers from around the world who cannot get to the shows - some will never have been at a show.

Diane your frit is very beautiful and I suspect it is near to F. crassifolia but I could not see the distinctive linear nectaries that would indicate that species when I saw it at Blackpool - I did not think you would have appreciated me pulling a flowers apart.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: shelagh on March 24, 2008, 10:25:57 AM
Super pictures, thanks to Diane and Martin.  By the way Martin your second picture of Brian and Diane was obviously taken after the pub lunch. ::)
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on March 24, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
Thanks to you both Diane and Martin.
I've seen a beautiful show this way. :D
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Martinr on March 24, 2008, 10:54:33 AM
Shelagh, I'm just trying to figure out if Diane is actually sucking her thumb! (pictures are undoubtedly post pub)

Diane, I think Ian's inviting you to dissect a flower and post the pictures, there's a challenge.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 24, 2008, 11:00:03 AM
Thank you Diane and Martin - super pictures - almost like being there... except for the pub lunch of course...  ;D
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: ChrisB on March 24, 2008, 11:52:50 AM
Some wonderful photos all, can't wait now for Hexham next weekend.....
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: shelagh on March 24, 2008, 01:27:24 PM
Caption competition Number 2, suggested by the man himself ;D. 'OH I AM FED UP OF BEING MISTAKEN FOR TOM CRUISE'
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 24, 2008, 01:39:27 PM
Quote
'OH I AM FED UP OF BEING MISTAKEN FOR TOM CRUISE'
Only to be expected I would have thought, when his wife is so like Ms Katie Holmes  :D
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 24, 2008, 05:57:10 PM
Shelagh, I'm just trying to figure out if Diane is actually sucking her thumb! (pictures are undoubtedly post pub)

That's a bit cheeky, coming from one always with a dummy in his mouth.  ::)
Post pub, of course -  it's the last crumbs of the butterscotch pudding I was FORCED to eat by a certain MartinR, very much against my will.
 :P  :P  :P
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Mick McLoughlin on March 24, 2008, 06:25:02 PM
Thanks for the pictures Diane and Martin.
Another couple that turned over due to the covering of snow in Yorkshire.

Mick and Mandy
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Martinr on March 24, 2008, 06:41:52 PM
Diane, it's either the red wine, the early rise or the advancing years................you had ginger & treacle not butterscotch!
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 24, 2008, 06:52:51 PM
I think it quite understandable that folks would prefer to stay snuggled in bed with a warm spouse rather than drive around in the kind of weather we're getting at the minute!

Martin, are you sure Diane didn't have BOTH puddings?  :o ::)
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Rob Potterton on March 24, 2008, 07:37:16 PM
Diane. Very good looking Fritillaria (not acmopetala wendelboi). Where and when  did you get??
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 24, 2008, 07:58:47 PM
So the lady with her thumb in her mouth is OUR Diane? I wish this would be made clear when posting pics with Forum members in them, for the benefit of us who can't go to the shows. You don't look like your atavar Diane, I hadn't seen that you wear glasses. Probably because mine need replacing. :) Incidentally, thumb sucking can be cured quite easily by continually holding in one's hands, a heavy clay pot of Narcissus or something similar.
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 24, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
Caption for pic No 1 - "Can't that blasted man point his camera at someone else?"
or - "Don't you speak in that tone of voice to me, m'lad."

Caption for pic No 2 - "God I feel sick. Why did I eat BOTH those puddings?"
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 24, 2008, 08:36:17 PM
Diane, it's either the red wine, the early rise or the advancing years................you had ginger & treacle not butterscotch!

All of those I expect  ;)

Martin, are you sure Diane didn't have BOTH puddings?  :o ::)

Definitely not, I'm on a diet  ;)

You don't look like your atavar Diane, I hadn't seen that you wear glasses. Incidentally, thumb sucking can be cured quite easily by continually holding in one's hands, a heavy clay pot of Narcissus or something similar.

My "official" avatar is several years old, before failing eyesight set in.  Perhaps I better change it to something more suitable  ....
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 24, 2008, 08:52:16 PM
Diane. Very good looking Fritillaria (not acmopetala wendelboi). Where and when  did you get??

Hi Rob, this is the plant we discussed on Saturday.  I got mine from Paul Christian, but there are several nurseries offering it, and they all look similar to mine, therefore I guess from the same source.  The picture in your catalogue shows the same plant, so I think the "trade" version is probably all the same as mine, and therefore not F acmopetala wendelboi.  However, it is a very good plant and has been much admired and will get a PC when it is named.  I've been asked to send a piece of mine to Martyn Rix so the mystery will be solved eventually and I will let everyone know. 
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Rob Potterton on March 24, 2008, 11:33:33 PM
Dianne your Fritillaria is a little different to the F. acmopetala wendelboi we sell. From what i can see on your photo - as i didnt get to see it on the show bench Saturday - it has a very distinctive and attractive purple/brown stripe on the edge of the outer petals and also appears to have a slightly different shape of flower. I do like it.   
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: SueG on March 25, 2008, 09:32:43 AM
A bit late I know, (I didn't fancy coming into work just to post the pictures!) but I don't think these duplicate any of the other pics from the show - fortunately coming down from the north the weather wasn't too bad either way.
A couple of general views
Epimedium Ogisu
3 foliage celmisias
Sue
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: SueG on March 25, 2008, 09:34:33 AM
and a few more
Anacamptis longicornu
Anemone bifolia
Narcissus yepesii
and a closer up shot

Sue
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: art600 on March 25, 2008, 12:52:38 PM
It is Anemone biflora - a wonderful red flower
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: SueG on March 25, 2008, 05:09:43 PM
Thanks for the anemone correction - couldn't read my own writing! It certainly was a great colour and I just missed out on getting my hands on the plants on the members sale table - will have to keep a look out for it, made a change from the pinks and mauves.
Sue
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2008, 05:54:11 PM
the Narcissus yepesii is a new name to me. Looks to be rather a tall creature..... anyone know about it?



Diane: I must warn you, since you posted your new avatar I am finding you devilishly attractive  ::)
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: ian mcenery on March 25, 2008, 06:03:36 PM
Diane: I must warn you, since you posted your new avatar I am finding you devilishly attractive  ::)

Diane I preferred you when you were treacle - with custard and ice cream of course
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2008, 06:10:54 PM
Sue, are you sure you "missed out" on Anemone biflora plants on the plant stall?  It's rather uncommon and more than a little tricky in most cases...... not the sort of gem that one usually finds on sale!!
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 25, 2008, 06:20:30 PM
the Narcissus yepesii is a new name to me. Looks to be rather a tall creature..... anyone know about it?

Yep, it's my plant.   I grew it from seed from John Blanchard sown in 2003.  John collected the seed from the type locality of Sierra de Segura, Jaen province, Andalucia, Spain, it in seasonally wet ground by a stream in a level valley. Its about 20cm high, smallish flower for its height.  It flowered for the first time last year with one flower, now with one twin flowered spike and one more on its way.

Oh look, we talked about it last year
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=307.208



Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2008, 10:45:45 PM
So we did, Diane.... shows what a useless piece of tired sponge my brain is.... I had no recollection of that at all. :-[ :P :-X

Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on March 26, 2008, 07:16:14 AM
So we did, Diane.... I had no recollection of that at all.

Nor I, till I stuck it in a search engine and it was the first reference that came up. 

Quote
.... shows what a useless piece of tired sponge my brain is....

Treacle sponge, I hope  :P  :P
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: SueG on March 26, 2008, 09:06:28 AM
Sue, are you sure you "missed out" on Anemone biflora plants on the plant stall?  It's rather uncommon and more than a little tricky in most cases...... not the sort of gem that one usually finds on sale!!
Yes, pretty certain - they were smaller plants but quite distinctive - and while I'm hopeless at remembering names of people, plants etc I'm usually OK on what things/people look like.  ;D
There were one or two little tricky things on the members plant table and I added a Townsendia to my collection of things to kill!
Sue
Title: Re: AGS show Cleveland 2008
Post by: shelagh on March 26, 2008, 09:37:56 PM
Diane your avatar (new word to me) does resemble your pudding but there isn't enough custard round it. As I recall we said it was rather reminiscent of that island that suddenly emerged some years ago.
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