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Title: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: johnw on May 11, 2017, 01:53:42 PM
A red x a red and white flowers, a surprise every day.

Podophyllum (delavayi x pleianthum) DP#87, white flowers 2017

john
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: GordonT on May 29, 2017, 11:50:09 AM
Podophyllums from Bjornar's seed collection"Podophyllum hexandrum- Lake Mugeco". Plenty of variation in both shape and markings.The last photo is my favourite to date. I probably killed the best one (had to move several, and thought I was done, so started to plant the "empty" bed, only to decapitate perhaps the largest before it had emerged from the ground)
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Gabriela on May 30, 2017, 01:45:16 AM
A red x a red and white flowers, a surprise every day.

Podophyllum (delavayi x pleianthum) DP#87, white flowers 2017
john

Wow! I missed this one - congratulations. Never seen a white flowered hybrid.
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Gabriela on May 30, 2017, 01:49:52 AM
Podophyllums from Bjornar's seed collection"Podophyllum hexandrum- Lake Mugeco". Plenty of variation in both shape and markings.The last photo is my favourite to date. I probably killed the best one (had to move several, and thought I was done, so started to plant the "empty" bed, only to decapitate perhaps the largest before it had emerged from the ground)

Done that as well :-[
In my experience hexandrum will always vary greatly - I've had seedlings from a purple leaf form (that I seen), a pink flowered one and so on....most often the seedlings were nothing close. Then this year I find this one (no label of course):
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Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: GordonT on May 31, 2017, 01:05:01 AM
Nice leaf patterning on that one, Gabriela. Missing tags in the garden are a problem here, too. I think crows and blue jays like to investigate them. If the birds don't do it, our rambunctious Sheltie manages to run them over.

Regarding the severed Podophyllum.... I managed to slice off the emerging growth when I dug some holes for new plants. I wonder if the whole thing is lost, or if it will manage to come back from the intact crown next year?
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Leena on May 31, 2017, 07:21:31 AM
I love Podophyllums, but it seems only P.hexandrum is hardy enough to grow here. I lost all my seedlings of P.pleianthum-versipelle-complex in winter 2016 which was very cold  :(. They were grown from seeds I got from Ashley.
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: johnw on May 31, 2017, 01:33:21 PM
Regarding the severed Podophyllum.... I managed to slice off the emerging growth when I dug some holes for new plants. I wonder if the whole thing is lost, or if it will manage to come back from the intact crown next year?

It might even come back from the roots if not too immature.

john
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Gabriela on May 31, 2017, 06:25:03 PM
It might even come back from the roots if not too immature.
john

Cheer up Gordon!  :)
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Gabriela on May 31, 2017, 06:30:23 PM
I love Podophyllums, but it seems only P.hexandrum is hardy enough to grow here. I lost all my seedlings of P.pleianthum-versipelle-complex in winter 2016 which was very cold  :(. They were grown from seeds I got from Ashley.

Sorry to hear this Leena  :'( I also have a special attachment with the baby Podophyllums. I lost my P. pleianthum (flowering size) in the very bad winter of 2013/14, but a friend which lives not far away didn't. Probably the location is very important.
You shouldn't give up!
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: ashley on May 31, 2017, 10:29:38 PM
I lost all my seedlings of P.pleianthum-versipelle-complex in winter 2016 which was very cold  :(.

Let me know if you'd like to try again Leena :)
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Leena on June 01, 2017, 07:37:36 AM
Probably the location is very important.

You are right, and I should have protected them more with dry oak leaves. That winter was very bad, the cold came without snow, and I was lucky that I lost only a very few plants. Many people here lost a lot of different kinds of plants then. Last winter was not so bad though this spring has been cold, but perennials just take it slow and don't mind the cool weather, though some early spring flowers had lost their flower buds..
I would like to try once more, and now I would keep the plants in pots for the first winter (in the root cellar), then plant them outside in the second spring so that they have enough time to root properly before the next winter. I protect them better!
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Graham Catlow on June 10, 2017, 08:42:27 PM
Some photos of my Podophylum (Dysosma) delavayi in the border.

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First the leaves.

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Then the flowers from above with the leaves parted.

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And finally lying on the ground  ::)

Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Graham Catlow on June 10, 2017, 09:38:05 PM
Thanks for the edit Maggi.
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: strever on July 29, 2017, 02:07:09 AM
hi From No Calif amongst the Redwoods
you folks across the pond are so far ahead of us in hybridizing the Podophyllums
even tho i have had them for at least 15 years i have never wanted to cross any of them
this year for some reason i decided to try and i crossed spotty dotty with kaleidoscope
and kaleidoscope with spotty dotty and i have a lot of seed pods developing
which i am assuming you over there have done & seen many times
what i see different and i searched and did not find info about was on the spotty dotty
after pollination 5 of my plants developed a new stem and a small leaf at the junction where the flowers are
making them look like delavayi with 3 leaves
Title: Re: Podophyllum 2017
Post by: Maggi Young on July 29, 2017, 01:47:09 PM
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after pollination 5 of my plants developed a new stem and a small leaf at the junction where the flowers are making them look like delavayi with 3 leaves

 Something we must look out for!
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