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Title: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Alan_b on April 04, 2017, 03:21:01 PM
I got this plant at an Open Garden some years ago but it has languished until I opened-up a new area of the garden giving it a decent place to grow.  It's a sort of climbing/scrambling daisy and quite vigorous.   If I ever knew what is was, I don't now.  The first photo shows the leaves but has washed-out the flower colour.

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Close-up of the flower showing the colour more accurately.

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Can anyone identify this?     
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Carolyn on April 04, 2017, 03:52:49 PM
When I read climbing daisy, I thought of mutisia, but it's not that. It looks more like erigeron karvinskianus, which is certainly vigorous, but I wouldn't describe it as climbing.
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Alan_b on April 04, 2017, 04:06:42 PM
Scrambling might be a more accurate description than climbing but it likes to find its way up and it certainly isn't mound-forming.  It's also spring-flowering only, I think.  And it has relatively few petals compared to the Erigeron pictures I can find.
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: ian mcdonald on April 04, 2017, 08:28:29 PM
I have E. karvinskianus/mucronatus. Your photo. looks similar but mine is quite a way from flowering yet. I regard it as summer flowering over a long period.
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Maggi Young on April 04, 2017, 08:40:13 PM
What size are the flowers?
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 05, 2017, 03:49:11 AM
Holy Smokes, Alan! :o
GET RID OF IT NOW!
I forget the name (I think someone on the Forum ID'd it for me ages ago as a felicia) but if it is the same one (not Erigeron karvinskianus which is a lamb compared to this) it is extremely vigorous, self-layers and suckers and can cover a few square metres from a single sprig!
I've given up trying to eradicate it and simply try to keep it under control - if it can do this in our climate with limited rainfall/irrigation it will be out of control in your climate
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Alan_b on April 05, 2017, 07:38:20 AM
Oh dear, Fermi!  It certainly does self layer a little if allowed to trail along the ground and it has been very vigorous in the year that I have been growing it up a trellis but so far it seems content to confine itself to growing upwards when given the opportunity.  I had it growing in a dark corner for many years without it going at all out of control; it just sulked.  My climate also offers little irrigation during the summer; I live in the driest part of the country.  Now I really do need to identify it so I can look up its tendency to run rampant locally.

Maggi, the flowers are about the same size as a regular lawn daisy.

(If I try to search on Felicia, all I find is people and roses).
     
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 05, 2017, 08:47:55 AM
Try googling Felicia genus.
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Alan_b on April 05, 2017, 09:09:33 AM
Thanks, I tried Felicia genus and then Felicia species which seemed to give better results.  The closest thing I can find it this, http://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item_587l_felicia_heterophylla_the_rose_seeds (http://www.chilternseeds.co.uk/item_587l_felicia_heterophylla_the_rose_seeds) , a form of Felicia heterophylla.  The picture looks about right but there isn't much detail and no mention of a scrambling nature.

Edit:  also, I think the centre should be rose-colured and not yellow as in my plant.
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 05, 2017, 11:29:02 AM
Hi Alan,
try felicia erigeroides
http://plantinfo.co.za/plant/felicia-erigeroides/ (http://plantinfo.co.za/plant/felicia-erigeroides/)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Olive Mason on April 05, 2017, 11:48:12 AM
I think it is Felicia petiolata.  Yes it is quite a thug, not a bad in England as it would be in Australia but easily pulled out and very pretty.
Title: Re: Climbing Daisy
Post by: Alan_b on April 05, 2017, 11:52:18 AM
Thank you, Olive, I believe you are correct.  Bob Brown's description here http://www.cgf.net/plantdetails.aspx?id=6258 (http://www.cgf.net/plantdetails.aspx?id=6258) mentions the scrambling habit.

And, although this is circumstantial evidence, the RHS lists nearby Beeches Nursery as one of six suppliers.
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